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E-post til Per Edgar Kokkvold. (In Norwegian).
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Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>
Telefonsamtale, forrige måned.
Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>
Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:03 AM
To:
Per Edgar Kokkvold <kokkvold@online.no>
Hei,da er vi på bølgelengde.
Jeg mente ikke å være uhøflig.
Men da venter jeg til dere har funnet ut mer om det her.
Mange takk for svar!
Med vennlig hilsen
Erik Ribsskog
2008/9/24 Per Edgar Kokkvold <kokkvold@online.no>:
> Nei da, vi blander ikke følelser inn i dette, men du forstår sikkert at jeg
> må få snakke med saksbehandleren, altså Nyhuus, før jeg kommer tilbake til
> deg.
>
> Mvh
> Per Edgar Kokkvold
>
>
>
> —–Opprinnelig melding—–
> Fra: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
> Sendt: 24. september 2008 10:35
> Til: Per Edgar Kokkvold
> Emne: Re: Telefonsamtale, forrige måned.
>
> Hei,
>
> mitt telefonnummer er 44 151 236 3298.
>
> Nyhuus er sikkert en utmerket kar, det er jeg ikke så interessert i
> hvordan er personlig.
>
> Ikke for å være uhøflig, men jeg mener jeg har blitt mobbet så mye på
> avisenes debattforum, både
> av moderatorer og av brukere, som moderatorer, har tillatt.
>
> Og også blitt sensuert og sperret fra disse forumene.
>
> Og det er ikke fordi jeg er så spesiellt hårsår, at jeg tar opp disse
> problemene, med det er fordi at jeg mener
> pressen har et ansvar for å opprettholde yttringsfriheten.
>
> Så det er det perspektivet jeg ser det her fra.
>
> Og det virker ikke som om Nyhuus tar dette så alvorlig, når jeg
> ringer, og han sier at min klage ligger nederst i bunken, og at han
> bare like godt tenker seg å foreta en ‘forenklet behandling’, og at
> denne mobbingen og sensureringen ser greit ut for han.
>
> Da mener jeg at dette er mer på linje med hva avisene driver med.
>
> At man ikke har respekt for yttringsfriheten, og tillater at folk blir
> trakassert, på debattforumene.
>
> Dette mener jeg er såpass alvorlige ting, at dere burde ikke ta det
> for personlig, og blande for mye følelser inn i det her, sånn som jeg
> syens du gjør, når du snakker om avvisninger osv.
>
> Det er ikke det planet der, som jeg har i tankene at korrespondansen
> skal ligge på, når jeg klager til PFU, da regner jeg med at PFU klarer
> å opptre på en professjonell måte.
>
> Så blir det spennende å se om dere finner ut om det her med
> yttringsfriheten på debattforum osv., og jeg skulle gjerne hatt en
> forklaring også på hvorfor dere ikke har en egen vær varsom plakat for
> avisenes debattforum.
>
> Det tror jeg hadde vært en smart ide, nå som vi har fått nettaviser og
> debattforum osv., så må ikke PFU sovne i timen, som jeg nok kanskje
> synes det kan virke litt som, sett fra min side, i hvertfall.
>
> Med vennlig hilsen
>
> Erik Ribsskog
>
> 2008/9/24 Per Edgar Kokkvold <kokkvold@online.no>:
>> Kjære Erik Ribsskog
>>
>>
>>
>> Kjell Nyhuus er sykmeldt med dobbeltsidig lungebetennelse, men jeg skal
>> snakke med ham når han er tilbake, så vil du få svar. Fint om du oppgir
>> telefonnummer, så jeg kan ringe deg. Ellers er Nyhuus en utmerket kar, og
>> jeg er sikker på at han ikke har ment å avvise deg.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mvh
>>
>> Per Edgar Kokkvold
>>
>>
>>
>> ______________________________
__ >>
>> Fra: Per Edgar Kokkvold [mailto:kokkvold@online.no]
>> Sendt: 23. september 2008 05:49
>> Til: kokkvold@online.no
>> Emne: VS: Telefonsamtale, forrige måned.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ______________________________
__ >>
>> Fra: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
>> Sendt: 19. september 2008 05:04
>> Til: Per Edgar Kokkvold
>> Emne: Fwd: Telefonsamtale, forrige måned.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hei,
>>
>>
>>
>> jeg prøver å sende denne klagen til deg, siden han kollegaen din ikke
>> svarer.
>>
>> Med vennlig hilsen
>>
>> Erik Ribsskog
>>
>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>> From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
>> Date: 2008/9/8
>> Subject: Telefonsamtale, forrige måned.
>> To: Kjell Nyhuus <kjell.nyhuus@presse.no>
>>
>> Hei,
>>
>>
>>
>> jeg viser til telefonsamtale, i forrige måned, hvor jeg etterlyste svar på
>> klagen min, på trakassering og sensur,
>>
>> fra VGD, Veggavisen, Debattcentralen og Dagbladet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeg viste til de aktuelle punktene, i Vær Varsom-plakaten, og etterlyste
>> også en egen Vær Varsom-plakat,
>>
>> for debattforum.
>>
>> Siden det finnes en Vær Varsom-plakat, for vanlige avisartikler.
>>
>>
>>
>> Og også en Vær Varsom-plakat, for reklamer, mener jeg det var.
>>
>> Men nå er det jo år 2008, så jeg lurte på om det ikke var på tide med en
>> egen Vær Varsom-plakat, for
>>
>> debattfoum, drevet av nettavisene også.
>>
>> Bare et forslag, siden jeg ikke tror at de plakatene som man har nå,
> passer
>> helt å bruke for problemer,
>>
>> som med trakassering og sensur, på debattforum.
>>
>> I allefall ikke, etter at jeg hørte du sa, over telefon, da jeg ringte den
>> nevnte telefonsamtalen, at min klage
>>
>> lå langt nede i bunken, og at du bare hadde tenkt å foreta en forenklet
>> behandling.
>>
>> Og det kan man jo tenke seg hva betyr, at du bare ville hive det i søpla,
>> f.eks.
>>
>> Men, da nevnte jo jeg det, at Solskjær, han hadde sagt, at PFU, bare var
> noe
>> tull uansett, eller noe.
>>
>> At man kunne bare like gjerne droppe PFU, de hadde ingen troverdighet, og
>> heller ta det i et sivilt
>>
>> søksmål.
>>
>>
>>
>> Noe sånn var det vel han sa.
>>
>> Men du sa at det var feil, det var agenten til Solskjær, en som Solbakken,
>> som hadde sagt, at å klage
>>
>> til PFU, var som å pisse i motvind.
>>
>> Det er mulig.
>>
>> I hvertfall, så virker det ikke helt enkelt.
>>
>> Fordi, du sa, da jeg ringte, for 3-4 uker siden, at du skulle meg noe
>> skriftlig, angående klagen på de
>>
>> nevnte avisene, som jeg sendte dere.
>>
>> Men jeg har ikke fått noe svar av deg.
>>
>> Så jeg tror Solskjær og Solbakken, har rett i det her, at PFU, det er like
>> greit å droppe å kontakte,
>>
>> for de har ikke noen troverdighet uansett.
>>
>>
>>
>> Det kan i hvertfall virke som at de kan ha rett, hvis man sammenligner hva
>> dere sier, med hva dere gjør.
>>
>>
>>
>> Med vennlig hilsen
>>
>> Erik Ribsskog
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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E-post fra Per Edgar Kokkvold. (In Norwegian).
Google Mail – Telefonsamtale, forrige måned.

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>
Telefonsamtale, forrige måned.
Per Edgar Kokkvold
<kokkvold@online.no>
Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:56 AM
To:
Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Nei da, vi blander ikke følelser inn i dette, men du forstår sikkert at jegmå få snakke med saksbehandleren, altså Nyhuus, før jeg kommer tilbake til
deg.
Mvh
Per Edgar Kokkvold
—–Opprinnelig melding—–Fra: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
Sendt: 24. september 2008 10:35
Til: Per Edgar Kokkvold
Emne: Re: Telefonsamtale, forrige måned.
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E-post til Per Edgar Kokkvold i PFU. (In Norwegian).
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Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>
Telefonsamtale, forrige måned.
Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>
Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:35 AM
To:
Per Edgar Kokkvold <kokkvold@online.no>
Hei,mitt telefonnummer er 44 151 236 3298.
Nyhuus er sikkert en utmerket kar, det er jeg ikke så interessert i
hvordan er personlig.
Ikke for å være uhøflig, men jeg mener jeg har blitt mobbet så mye på
avisenes debattforum, både
av moderatorer og av brukere, som moderatorer, har tillatt.
Og også blitt sensuert og sperret fra disse forumene.
Og det er ikke fordi jeg er så spesiellt hårsår, at jeg tar opp disse
problemene, med det er fordi at jeg mener
pressen har et ansvar for å opprettholde yttringsfriheten.
Så det er det perspektivet jeg ser det her fra.
Og det virker ikke som om Nyhuus tar dette så alvorlig, når jeg
ringer, og han sier at min klage ligger nederst i bunken, og at han
bare like godt tenker seg å foreta en ‘forenklet behandling’, og at
denne mobbingen og sensureringen ser greit ut for han.
Da mener jeg at dette er mer på linje med hva avisene driver med.
At man ikke har respekt for yttringsfriheten, og tillater at folk blir
trakassert, på debattforumene.
Dette mener jeg er såpass alvorlige ting, at dere burde ikke ta det
for personlig, og blande for mye følelser inn i det her, sånn som jeg
syens du gjør, når du snakker om avvisninger osv.
Det er ikke det planet der, som jeg har i tankene at korrespondansen
skal ligge på, når jeg klager til PFU, da regner jeg med at PFU klarer
å opptre på en professjonell måte.
Så blir det spennende å se om dere finner ut om det her med
yttringsfriheten på debattforum osv., og jeg skulle gjerne hatt en
forklaring også på hvorfor dere ikke har en egen vær varsom plakat for
avisenes debattforum.
Det tror jeg hadde vært en smart ide, nå som vi har fått nettaviser og
debattforum osv., så må ikke PFU sovne i timen, som jeg nok kanskje
synes det kan virke litt som, sett fra min side, i hvertfall.
Med vennlig hilsen
Erik Ribsskog
2008/9/24 Per Edgar Kokkvold <kokkvold@online.no>:> Kjære Erik Ribsskog
>
>
>
> Kjell Nyhuus er sykmeldt med dobbeltsidig lungebetennelse, men jeg skal
> snakke med ham når han er tilbake, så vil du få svar. Fint om du oppgir
> telefonnummer, så jeg kan ringe deg. Ellers er Nyhuus en utmerket kar, og
> jeg er sikker på at han ikke har ment å avvise deg.
>
>
>
> Mvh
>
> Per Edgar Kokkvold
>
>
>
> ______________________________
__ >
> Fra: Per Edgar Kokkvold [mailto:kokkvold@online.no]
> Sendt: 23. september 2008 05:49
> Til: kokkvold@online.no
> Emne: VS: Telefonsamtale, forrige måned.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________
__ >
> Fra: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
> Sendt: 19. september 2008 05:04
> Til: Per Edgar Kokkvold
> Emne: Fwd: Telefonsamtale, forrige måned.
>
>
>
> Hei,
>
>
>
> jeg prøver å sende denne klagen til deg, siden han kollegaen din ikke
> svarer.
>
> Med vennlig hilsen
>
> Erik Ribsskog
>
> ———- Forwarded message ———-
> From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
> Date: 2008/9/8
> Subject: Telefonsamtale, forrige måned.
> To: Kjell Nyhuus <kjell.nyhuus@presse.no>
>
> Hei,
>
>
>
> jeg viser til telefonsamtale, i forrige måned, hvor jeg etterlyste svar på
> klagen min, på trakassering og sensur,
>
> fra VGD, Veggavisen, Debattcentralen og Dagbladet.
>
>
>
> Jeg viste til de aktuelle punktene, i Vær Varsom-plakaten, og etterlyste
> også en egen Vær Varsom-plakat,
>
> for debattforum.
>
> Siden det finnes en Vær Varsom-plakat, for vanlige avisartikler.
>
>
>
> Og også en Vær Varsom-plakat, for reklamer, mener jeg det var.
>
> Men nå er det jo år 2008, så jeg lurte på om det ikke var på tide med en
> egen Vær Varsom-plakat, for
>
> debattfoum, drevet av nettavisene også.
>
> Bare et forslag, siden jeg ikke tror at de plakatene som man har nå, passer
> helt å bruke for problemer,
>
> som med trakassering og sensur, på debattforum.
>
> I allefall ikke, etter at jeg hørte du sa, over telefon, da jeg ringte den
> nevnte telefonsamtalen, at min klage
>
> lå langt nede i bunken, og at du bare hadde tenkt å foreta en forenklet
> behandling.
>
> Og det kan man jo tenke seg hva betyr, at du bare ville hive det i søpla,
> f.eks.
>
> Men, da nevnte jo jeg det, at Solskjær, han hadde sagt, at PFU, bare var noe
> tull uansett, eller noe.
>
> At man kunne bare like gjerne droppe PFU, de hadde ingen troverdighet, og
> heller ta det i et sivilt
>
> søksmål.
>
>
>
> Noe sånn var det vel han sa.
>
> Men du sa at det var feil, det var agenten til Solskjær, en som Solbakken,
> som hadde sagt, at å klage
>
> til PFU, var som å pisse i motvind.
>
> Det er mulig.
>
> I hvertfall, så virker det ikke helt enkelt.
>
> Fordi, du sa, da jeg ringte, for 3-4 uker siden, at du skulle meg noe
> skriftlig, angående klagen på de
>
> nevnte avisene, som jeg sendte dere.
>
> Men jeg har ikke fått noe svar av deg.
>
> Så jeg tror Solskjær og Solbakken, har rett i det her, at PFU, det er like
> greit å droppe å kontakte,
>
> for de har ikke noen troverdighet uansett.
>
>
>
> Det kan i hvertfall virke som at de kan ha rett, hvis man sammenligner hva
> dere sier, med hva dere gjør.
>
>
>
> Med vennlig hilsen
>
> Erik Ribsskog
>
>
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E-post fra Per Edgar Kokkvold i PFU. (In Norwegian).
Google Mail – Telefonsamtale, forrige måned.

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>
Telefonsamtale, forrige måned.
Per Edgar Kokkvold
<kokkvold@online.no>
Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:03 AM
To:
eribsskog@gmail.com
Kjære Erik Ribsskog
Kjell Nyhuus er sykmeldt med dobbeltsidig lungebetennelse, men jeg skal snakke
med ham når han er tilbake, så vil du få svar. Fint om du oppgir telefonnummer,
så jeg kan ringe deg. Ellers er Nyhuus en utmerket kar, og jeg er sikker på at
han ikke har ment å avvise deg.Mvh
Per Edgar Kokkvold
Fra: Per Edgar Kokkvold
[mailto:kokkvold@online.no]Sendt: 23. september 2008 05:49
Til: kokkvold@online.no
Emne: VS: Telefonsamtale, forrige
måned.
Fra: Erik Ribsskog
[mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]Sendt: 19. september 2008 05:04
Til: Per Edgar Kokkvold
Emne: Fwd: Telefonsamtale, forrige
måned.
Hei,
jeg prøver å sende denne klagen til deg, siden han kollegaen din ikke
svarer.Med vennlig hilsen
Erik Ribsskog
———- Forwarded
message ———-From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: 2008/9/8
Subject: Telefonsamtale, forrige måned.
To: Kjell Nyhuus
<kjell.nyhuus@presse.no>Hei,
jeg viser til telefonsamtale, i forrige måned, hvor jeg etterlyste svar
på klagen min, på trakassering og sensur,fra VGD, Veggavisen, Debattcentralen og Dagbladet.
Jeg viste til de aktuelle punktene, i Vær Varsom-plakaten, og
etterlyste også en egen Vær Varsom-plakat,for debattforum.
Siden det finnes en Vær Varsom-plakat, for vanlige avisartikler.
Og også en Vær Varsom-plakat, for reklamer, mener jeg det var.
Men nå er det jo år 2008, så jeg lurte på om det ikke var på tide med en egen
Vær Varsom-plakat, fordebattfoum, drevet av nettavisene også.
Bare et forslag, siden jeg ikke tror at de plakatene som man har nå, passer
helt å bruke for problemer,som med trakassering og sensur, på debattforum.
I allefall ikke, etter at jeg hørte du sa, over telefon, da jeg ringte den
nevnte telefonsamtalen, at min klagelå langt nede i bunken, og at du bare hadde tenkt å foreta en forenklet
behandling.Og det kan man jo tenke seg hva betyr, at du bare ville hive det i søpla, f.eks.
Men, da nevnte jo jeg det, at Solskjær, han hadde sagt, at PFU, bare var noe
tull uansett, eller noe.At man kunne bare like gjerne droppe PFU, de hadde ingen troverdighet, og
heller ta det i et siviltsøksmål.
Noe sånn var det vel han sa.
Men du sa at det var feil, det var agenten til Solskjær, en som Solbakken, som
hadde sagt, at å klagetil PFU, var som å pisse i motvind.
Det er mulig.
I hvertfall, så virker det ikke helt enkelt.
Fordi, du sa, da jeg ringte, for 3-4 uker siden, at du skulle meg noe
skriftlig, angående klagen på denevnte avisene, som jeg sendte dere.
Men jeg har ikke fått noe svar av deg.
Så jeg tror Solskjær og Solbakken, har rett i det her, at PFU, det er like
greit å droppe å kontakte,for de har ikke noen troverdighet uansett.
Det kan i hvertfall virke som at de kan ha rett, hvis man sammenligner
hva dere sier, med hva dere gjør.Med vennlig hilsen
Erik Ribsskog
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Linselus. (In Norwegian).
Quote:
Hei,
altså
linselus.Moren min, som jeg bodde hos i Larvik, sammen
med henne og søsteren min, og stefaren min, fram til
1979.Hun var sinnsyk, sa folk i hvertfall.
Så
da jeg flyttet til Oslo, i 1989, så ville gjerne ha et
diskre liv, og ikke ha noe liv, hvor folk kunne se meg i avisa
eller noe.For jeg var vant til å være flau
over det her da, på ungdomsskolen og videregående
osv., at muttern plutsetlig dukka opp på ungdomsskolen
osv., og oppførte seg rart da, så jeg ble driti
ut.Så jeg har aldri hatt noen ønske om å
være linselus.Men det som skjedde, var at jeg i
2003, overhørte, at jeg var forfulgt av noe ‘mafia’, i
Oslo.Og grunnen til at jeg leker ‘linselus’, som du
sier, det er at politiet, ikke gir meg noe som helst råd,
hjelp eller informasjon, om det her mafia-greiene, men bare
kødder med meg, som resten av myndighetene i Norge og
Storbritannia gjør.Så jeg prøver å
finne ut hva som egentlig foregår, det er derfor jeg
skriver blogg.Og også få ut hva som foregår,
sånn at folk vet det, fordi politiet og myndighetene og
media, gjør ikke jobben sin.Med
vennlig hilsenErik Ribsskog
http://www.spillegal.no/forum/showthread.php?p=418850&posted=1#post418850
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E-post fra politiet i Drammen. (In Norwegian).
Google Mail – SV: Anmeldelse av telefonsjikane.

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>
SV: Anmeldelse av telefonsjikane.
Helle Grimsrud Nielsen
<helle.g.nielsen@politiet.no>
Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:03 AM
To:
Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
E-posten er mottatt og vil bli viderefordelt til Retts- og påtaleenheten.Mvh SØNDRE BUSKERUD POLITIDISTRIKT
E-post adr.: post.sondre.buskerud@politiet.
no Helle G Nielsen
arkivleder
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Flashback til 1999. (In Norwegian).
Nå fikk jeg flashback til 1999, var det vel, da jeg jobbet som butikksjef, på Rimi Nylænde.
David Hjort, som jeg ble kjent med, da begge jobbet på Rimi Bjørndal, i 1997, var det vel.
Han hadde da fått seg ny dame, Linn Korneliussen, fra Florø.
Han pleide å dra på ferie til Florø, for der hadde han en kamerat, fra techno-miljøet, som jeg ikke husker navnet på.
Han ville bare ha damer med smale romper, husker jeg David sa.
Men men.
Han hadde flytta til Florø, på noe tiltak, for å komme unna dop-miljøet, eller noe sånt.
Men dem hadde visst festing og sånn der oppe og.
Og en gang David kom tilbake fra Florø, så hadde han med seg ny dame, Linn.
Jeg trengte noen til å jobbe i kassa på Rimi.
På Rimi Nylænde.
Fordi hun vi hadde der, en lyshåret jente, fra Lambertseter, som låseansvarlig Hilde, fra Nordstrand, som var sammen med en italiener vel, kjente.
Hun slutta ganske med en gang.
Så da stod vi uten kassa-medarbeider, på dagtid.
Så da passa det bra, at dama til David, trengte jobb.
Hun var litt treg, pga. noe lærevansker, eller noe sånt.
Men det var stille på dagtid, og jeg og Stian, som var assistent, vi var bare glad at vi hadde noen som kunne sitte i kassa.
Så hun fikk bare lov å sitte i tre kvarter, å telle kassa, det funka helt fint.
Det er mulig hun bare fikk betalt for en halvtime, siden det var standard, ettersom jeg skjønte da, det er mulig.
Men det funka i hvertfall.
Untatt en gang, da hadde Linn på seg skaut, og en annen gang kåpe.
På jobb, men hun tok av det ganske raskt vel.
Men det var rimelig rart, husker jeg.
Jeg chatta en del på nettet, på den tida her.
På sol20ognoe, på web eller irc, eller hvor det var da.
Jeg chatta en påske, da jobba på Rimi Bjørndal vel.
Kanskje påsken 97.
Noe sånt.
Da chattet jeg med en dame som het Lella, eller noe, som nick, og det var også en kar som het Falbe, eller noe, som hang der.
Jeg likte hun Lella, eller hva hun het, men jeg tror hun hadde type, og jeg var ikke så selvsikker, på den tida der, så det var vel sånn, at det å be ut damene, ikke var det første jeg spurte om.
Men seinere, etter at jeg hadde litt mer hell med damer osv., og ble butikksjef osv., da fikk jeg litt bedre selvtillit igjen.
Men jeg chatta også med søstra til hun Lella.
Ei som het Urd.
Og hun virka også veldig fin og ordentlig osv.
Men hun var liksom så ordentlig, syntes jeg, at hun nesten for bra, for meg, å prøve å sjekke opp, for selvtilliten min, var ikke helt på høyden, etter 80 og 90-tallet, osv.
Så jeg prøvde aldri å sjekke opp henne.
Men hun var hyggelig å prate med.
Hun jobba på Aftenpostens Kundeservice.
Da jeg ble butikksjef, i 1998, så fikk jeg noe kredittkort, og billån osv., hos DNB.
Og jeg fikk også høyere lønn.
Og da moren min døde, i 1999, så fikk jeg også en del penger, i noe livsforsikring, som muttern visstnok hadde.
Selv om jeg nok syntes da, at det hørtes litt rart ut, jeg hadde ikke forventet det, hun hadde jo problemer, og hadde ikke god råd, såvidt jeg visste.
Og hvordan kan en som hadde kreft, som muttern, få livsforsikring?
Det kan man nok lure på.
Men jeg fikk dekket avis av Rimi, sånn var det nok.
Så jeg ringte Aftenposten da, og bestillte abonnement av Aftenposten igjen, som jeg også hadde på Skansen Terrasse, som jeg og Glenn og søstra mi, og også Hildegunn og Rune, spleisa på.
Men jeg avbestilte Aftenposten igjen, et par år senere.
Fordi jeg fikk ikke tid å lese avisa så mye da, jeg hadde litt for mye å gjøre.
Og jeg hadde da pc-en stående på stuebordet.
For jeg fikk etterhvert bredbånd, og jeg satt foran pc-en så mye, så jeg flytta den like godt til stuebordet.
Og for de som har lest Aftenposten, før det ble tabloidformat, ettersom jeg mener å ha fått med meg fra Norge.
De vet at den avisa, den tar mye plass, å lese.
Så jeg fikk nesten ikke plass til avisa, på stuebordet, ved siden av pc-en.
Så jeg droppa den avisa, jeg leste jo alle nettavisene uansett.
Men da var det en ung dame som ringte fra Aftenposten, og spurte hvorfor jeg slutta å abonnere.
Jeg sa det her da, med at avisa tok for stor plass, jeg hadde nesten ikke plass til avisa på stuebordet.
Men om dem fikk for mange sånne klager, eller hva det var.
For nå er vel den avisa tabloid, eller ihvertfall noen av utgavene.
Men egentlig så var det heller ikke så mye å lese i den avisa, skal jeg være ærlig.
Hvis det ikke var annonser og sånn, som man var på utkikk etter da.
Da var det sikkert greit å ha den avisa.
Men hun dama som ringte, hun var så vennlig.
Og det var nesten aldri damene i Oslo, som jeg kan huske, av en eller annen anledning.
Untatt de utenlandske, som jeg jobba med på Rimi osv., de pleide å ikke å være så kalde, ofte, som mange av Oslo-damene, fikk jeg inntrykk av.
Men det er mulig at jeg bodde i feil bydel.
På St. Hanshaugen, ble jeg jo aldri kjent med noen.
Men da jeg bodde på Abildsø, ti år før, da ble jeg jo kjent med folk.
Men på byen ble jeg sjelden kjent med folk, må jeg vel si.
Men kanskje hun som ringte hadde prata med hun Urd, eller noe.
Hva vet jeg.
Det var noe med stemmen hennes, at hun var ganske interessert osv., i hvorfor jeg ikke ville abonnere på avisa lengre.
Men hva det egentlig var, det vet jeg ikke.
Men noe var det kanskje.
Vi får se.
Med vennlig hilsen
Erik Ribsskog
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Complaint to Lifestyles-gym. (From last year).
Google Mail – Complaint

Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>
Complaint
Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>
Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 5:06 AM
To:
Richard.Little@liverpool.gov.uk
Cc:
"Lennon, Linda" <linda.lennon@liverpool.gov.uk>, "Southern, Lesley" <Lesley.Southern@liverpool.gov.uk>
Hi,I'm refering to phone-call last week (4/7). I know I said I'd send this e-mail nolater than Wednesday, but I didn't get to start on it untill late on Wednesday,so it's probably going to be Thursday untill I get to actually send the e-mail,so sorry about that!Problems with washing women/girls in the mens changing-room during opening hours:The first thing I wondered about, was regarding the problems described inthe e-mail I sent to Linda Lennon on 8/6, about the washing girl/women inthe mens changing-room.I'll copy the text from that e-mail into this e-mail, since I have some questionsregarding that episode:to

linda.lennon@liverpool.gov.uk
date
Jun 8, 2007 10:58 PM
subject
Fwd: Statement
mailed-by
gmail.com
Hi,I just got back from the gym, it closed at 9 pm.I just had to eat a bit and relax a bit after the work-out, or else I would have sent theemail at once.Because what I'm wondering about with the gym, is:Is it really right that there should be female washing-staf in the mens wardrobeat 8.45 pm, when the gym closes at 9pm?This happened again today, and it has also happened once before.I used to workout a bit when I lived in Oslo and Sunderland as well, but they neverused to start washing the wardrobe until after the closing hours.So I think that since the gym is run by the Council, I think that they shouldn'thave the washing-routines that includes female staff starting to wash in themens wardrobe as early as 8.45 pm.I think they should wait until after closing-hours to wash the mens wardrobe,and that if they have to wash, then they could maybe instead wash the machinesin the gym or something else before the gym is closed.When I went into the mens wardrobe at 8.45 pm then there was a female washingstaff washing there, about 40 years maybe with dark hair.I think she was talking with a colleague in there, it was probably the other washing-woman.I was working out on the tread-mill by the reception untill a bit before 8.45 pm, andthen I saw the washing-staff walking around in the reception-area at around 8.40 pm.And one of the washing-staff looked quite young, maybe 16-17 years.I think it must have been her that the washing-woman with dark hair spoke with inthe mens wardrobe at 8.45.I don't think there should be that young female washing staff in the mens wardrobeat 8.45, when the gym closes at 9.00pm.It has happened once earlier as well that there were female washing staff in themens wardrobe at around 8.45, and I just think that this isnt right.I think that both the staff in the gym and the washing staff should understand bythemselves that the female washing staff shouldnt start to wash in the menswardrobe untill after the closing hours at 9 pm, so thats why I havent complainedabout this to the staff in the gym or the washing staff.I think that it should be unecessary for me to tell this to them, I think they shouldhave understood this by themselves.And Im not really sure whos in charge there in the evenings eighter.There has also been other incidents at the gym that I have thought to complainabout, but I havent untill now.But with the washing-staff in the mens wardrobe again today at 8.45 pm, wasa bit like the final drop, so since Im not really sure whos in charge there in theevening I thought that I could send you an email about this.And also since one of the washing women was so young, it makes me a bitworried about whats going on in the gym, when they put a washing woman/girl that looked like she was maybe 16 or 17 in the mens wardrobe at 8.45pm,so therefore I thought I should really just write the email now, because that thisis a bit unacceptable for a gym thats run by the Council.I know its a bit late to send emails at this hour, but it thought that since I thinkthat this way of organising the washing-routines in the gym is a bit unaceptable,I thought that if I sent the email about this right after I got back from the gym,then there would be less possibilites that eg. someone could say that I must havemistaken the time etc, since now its just a quite short time since I left the gym,so I reckoned that its best to send it right away, while I still have the details atmind so to speak.So I hope that this is alright!Sorry that I send the email this late.Regards,
Erik Ribsskog
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From: Erik Ribsskog <
eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Jun 8, 2007 3:45 PM
Subject: Statement
To: linda.lennon@liverpool.gov.uk
Hi,I refer to the phone-call earlier today, and send the statement fromthe bank about the duplicate payment with the direct-debit.Pleare just contact me if there is anything else I should have remembered.Hope that this is alright!Regards,
Erik RibsskogSo my questions regarding this is:1. How come that there are washing women/girls in the mens changing-room at 8.45 pm,when the gym closes at 9 pm?2. Is the gym going to change its washing-routine, so that the washing women/girls dontstart to wash the mens changing-room untill after the gym is closed. (Because like I explainedin the e-mail to Linda Lennon, this with the washing women in the mens changing-room hasalso happened earlier at the Millenium gym, but I've never seen it in other gyms).Problems with direct-debit processing errors/duplicate payments:Also, I have been in contact with Lesley Southern, about some problems regarding processingerrors/duplicate direct debits from the gym.I explained to him that I would also bring up some the issues regarding this with you, so I thinkits alright if I also copy the contents of that e-mail:from
hide detailsJul 10 (2 days ago)to
"Southern, Lesley" <Lesley.Southern@liverpool.gov.uk >
dateJul 10, 2007 6:18 PMsubjectRe: Earlier e-mailsmailed-by
Hi,thank you very much for your answer.I think it was very fine that you had the time to answer me, and I also think that it was veryfine that you have taken off my arrears due to the amount of time/inconvinience I have haddue to this.But since there were still some things I was wondering about, I thought I could try to sendyou an enquiery about this, to try to maybe found out about this.I've written an explanation below, as comments on your e-mail, since I thought it was easierto explain/answer this way.To summarize my questions:1. Shouldn't the gym have asked me first if they wanted to withdraw an extra payment (that theyhad no mandate for) from my account in June?2. How come that there were still two payment-requests from the gym waiting to be withdrawnfrom my account on 27/6, when firstly, the gym only have a mandate to withdraw one monthlypayment from my account. Secondly, I had agreed with the staff at the gym, that I would pay thearrears when I recieved the swith-bonus from the bank. And thirdly, I had sent Linda Lennon,Administration Manager at the Council an e-mail about this problem on 8/6, with a copy of thestatement from the bank, showing that there was a problem with the gym charging me duplicatepayments from my account for the month of June?3. How come that the gym still wanted to withdraw a (duplicate) payment from my account for themonth of July, when the gym was closed for refurbishment for six weeks from 25/6?I'm also going to contact the Duty Officer at the gym regarding why the gyms members weren'tinformed about the six weeks closure of the gym and more. So it might be that I'll also ask himabout some of the same questions. (Like about why the gym still wanted to charge me evenif they were going to be closed etc.)I hope you have the time to answer me about this questions, since I thought some of these thingswere a bit strange, so it would be nice to be informed about this.So I hope that you bear over with me if I'm asking many questions!Thank you very much in advance!Yours sincerely,Erik Ribsskog
On 7/3/07, Southern, Lesley <Lesley.Southern@liverpool.gov.uk > wrote:
ErikYour enquiry regarding your direct debit payments has been passed onto myself for further investigation.
Unfortunately we cannot refund a payment to a member that has outstanding arrears, this is for audit purposes as we are required to provide details of all miscellaneous payments made to our members.
The action we have taken to date is to take your 1 month overpayment as your cancellation fee (which is normally 2 months) and we have taken your arrears off your membership record for the inconvenience caused as a result of the error.
– Regarding the overpayment, it wasn't actually an overpayment, because when the bank saw that it had been aprocess error/duplicate payment from the gym, then they transferred the duplicate payment back as a'interbranch payment' on 6/6.(Secondly, I think that I shouldn't recieve a cancellation fee, when the gym suddently closes for 6 weeksfor refurbishment. I think that then the gym should have first sent its members a letter about this, putup a poster at the gym about this, and also not charged its members for the month that they are closed,but I have to contact the Duty Officer at the gym about something else, so I'll bring this up with him.)I have checked the Direct Debit report and it seems that the overpayment dates back to a missed January payment which has been allocated to your account on 30
th May. I will need to speak to our Direct Debit team to determine why a payment for January has been included in June's Direct Debit report.I've been speaking with the staff (including the Manager) at the gym several times about the arrears, and we agreed that I wouldpay the arrears later, when I recieved some money I was expecting (a switch-bonus from the bank).This was agreed with Craig at the gym, when we set up the direct-debit agreement in May.I spoke with Craig about this on 1/6 as well, since I hadn't recieved the switch-bonus yet, and then I was informedthat the arrear was £70.50, and we agreed that I would pay this when I recieved the money from the bank.
So my point is, that they should have told me first if they wanted to withdraw an extra payment from my accounton 1/6, so that I could have planned this in advance.Also, this (RBS) bank account was set up in May, so I don't really understand how a missed direct-debitpayment to my old (Barclays) account in Januray, could suddently appear on my RBS-account in June?It seems a bit strange to me that this could happen, when I also had agreed several times with the staffat the gym (in the month of March and then monthly), that I would pay the running bills, and that I'd pay thearrears when I recieved the switch-bonus from RBS.Also I had been told by the staff at the gym, that there was no hurry at all with the arrears, as long as Ipaid the running bills.– Also the bank told me when I called them in the beginning of June, that the gym wasn't allowed towithdraw more than one payment a month from my account, since they only had one mandate.– Also, when I called the gym on 26/6, to ask if they were open on 26/6, (since they were closed forno apparent reason on 25/6), then I was told that the gym was closed for refurbishment for six weeks.I then thought that it wasn't right that the gym should charge me for the month of July, when they wereclosed. (I also thought they should have informed the members about the six weeks closure). So dueto this, I called my bank (the RBS customer-support line) on 27/6 to cancel the direct-debit.I was then told that there were still two direct-debits from the gym on my account, both with the same,reference-number (LIFE 800 1561).– So I was wondering, how come that there were still two payment-requests from the gym waiting tobe withdrawn on my account on 27/6, when firstly, the gym only have a mandate to withdraw onemonthly payment from my account. Secondly, I had agreed with the staff at the gym, that I wouldpay the arrears when I recieved the swith-bonus from the bank, and thirdly, I had sent Linda Lennon,Administration Manager at the Council an e-mail about this problem on 8/6, with a copy of thestatement from the bank, showing that there was a problem with the gym charging me duplicatepayments from my account?
Your account has now been set to expired and no payment was requested in July.
Well, there were actually two payments requested in July (see aboveSo my questions regarding this is:3. Shouldn't the gym have asked me first if they wanted to withdraw an extra payment (that theyhad no mandate for) from my account in June?4. How come that there were still two payment-requests from the gym waiting to be withdrawnfrom my account on 27/6, when firstly, the gym only have a mandate to withdraw one monthlypayment from my account. Secondly, I had agreed with the staff at the gym, that I would pay thearrears when I recieved the swith-bonus from the bank. And thirdly, I had sent Linda Lennon,Administration Manager at the Council an e-mail about this problem on 8/6, with a copy of thestatement from the bank, showing that there was a problem with the gym charging me duplicatepayments from my account for the month of June?Problems around the closure of the gym for six weeks from 25/6 due to refurbishment:5. How come that the gym still wanted to withdraw a (duplicate) payment from my account for themonth of July, when the gym was closed for refurbishment for six weeks from 25/6?6. How come that there were no letters sent to the members of the gym regarding the closureof the gym for six weeks from 25/6 due to refurbishment?7. How come that there were no poster in the gym informing the users of the gym that the gymwould be closed for six weeks from 25/6 due to refurbishment?8. How come that there was only a makeshift sign on the entrance-door to the millenium-building saying 'gym closed', and nothing more when I went there to work out on theevening on 25/6. (Shouldn't it have been a proper sign, with information about why thegym was closed, how long the gym was closed for, and not just some makeshiftsign written with an ink-marker)?9. How come that there were no information about the fact that the gym was closed, whenI went on the lifestyles website:on 26/6 (When the gym had been closed since 25/5)?(I can see that it says that the gym is closed there now, but on 26/6, there was no informationabout the gym being closed at all. I went there to see if it said anything on the website on 26/6,since the gym was closed for no obvious reason on 25/6, but it didn't say anything about the gymbeing closed on the website, so I noted down the phone-number to the gym, and called the gym,and they told me that the gym was closed for six weeks due to refurbishment.)10. How come that members of the gym were charged for the whole month of June, when the gymwas closed for refurbishment from 25/6? (Shouldn't the six days from 25/6 to 30/6 have beendeducted from the charge?).Other problems at the gym:Like I wrote in my e-mail to Linda Lennon on 8/6, there had also been other, earlier incidents atthe gym which I had thought to complain about.But like I also wrote, it wasn't always easy to know who it was that was in charge there after themanager had gone home, and him I only spoke with once, since I most often worked out in theevening.And that the incident with the washing girls/women in the mens changing room again within theopening hours was the last drop, so to speak.And then it was easier for me to complain, because then I had her e-mail address from before,since I had sent her a copy of the statement from the bank, to document the problems withthe duplicate direct debit/processing error from the gym.So then it was easier for me to complain.I'm going to try explain a bit more about the earlier incidents:Problems with locker:On 26/4, it says in my note-book, I was at the gym.I work with office-work, so I try to work out quite often, and I usually use different lockers at thegym, depending on which locker of the lockers that are free etc.And when one work out 3-5 days a week for some time, and you have a different locker each time,then it could be that one forgets exactly which locker one uses this particular time.And, since only about half of the key-rings with the keys for the lockers had tag-numbers on them,this could be a bit confusing.So when I was finished with the work-out, and I went to the area of the changing-room where mylocker was, then the locker wouldn't open.Like I wrote, I use different lockers each time, depending on which lockers that are free, where inthe changing-room it is less crowded etc.So it isn't that easy to be exactly sure if it is that particular locker, especially since the key-ringto the locker (like about half of the other key-rings, i noticed later), lacked a number-tag on it,to specify which locker it belonged to.I usually dont keep things like my wallet etc. in the locker, since its a big gym, always manypeople there, and I would get a lot of inconvienience if something happened to my wallet etc.,so I didn't keep the most 'valuble' things in the locker.I use to keep my note-book with my wallet, so I had my note-book still on me, and I thought itwas a bit embarresing going to the reception explaining that I coultn't find my locker, so I decidedto be 100% sure before I did that.So, I just wrote down the numbers of all the lockers in my note-book, and then I checked eachand every locker, and crossed the number for that locker in my note-book.I made sure to check each lock thoroughly.So, when I had checked each lock in the changing-room, and the key didn't fit in any of them,then I went to the reception to explain.It was still quite embarresing, but at least now I had the note-book to show that I had tryed allof the locks.There were about 5 or 6 people sitting in the reception, and the woman in charge, told Neil tohelp me with this.I explained to Neil that maybe the smartest thing for me would be to return at closing-time,when all the other users of the gym had gone home, then it would only be one locker leftto check.I was holding my note-book still, so I wrote down that Neil started acting a bit like a sergeantin the army, knocking his fist into the side of the enterance to the changing-room and screaming/comanding: 'come here'.I thought this behaviour was a bit peculiar, but I went after him into the changing-room, and thenhe starting to ask if I had been having a few beers. (Since I couldnt remember the number forthe locker).I asked him what his name was, and wrote it down.Then I showed him that I had tryed all the lockers, and that noone worked, and that there wasntany number-tag on the key-chain for the locker.He asked me which locker I thought it was, and I told him that I thought it was the number 156one. (It says in my note-book).So he asked me to give him the key, so that he could try the number 156 locker and thesurrounding lockers.But he couldnt manage to open any of them, so he went to find the master-key.This took a bit of time, but he returned and then opened the locker with the new key.It was locker 156, and I showed him in my note-book that I had already tryed to openlocker 156 with the key, because I had crossed out that number in the note-book.Neil said that 'the locks often get stuck.', I can see from my note-book.I found a new locker (since I didnt have the key any longer to the 156 one), and Neilreminded me to remember the key-number.I told him that I thought that there should be key-tags on the key-rings for the lockers.Also, the next time I went to the gym, the woman in charge reminded me that I shouldremember the key-number, and then I told the woman in charge that I thought thatthere should be key-tags on the key-rings. (But there still wasnt done anythingwith this problem, and about half of the key-rings were still missing a key-tagfor the remainder of the time I was working out at the gym).So my questions regarding this is:11. How come there are so much problems with the locks getting stuck in the lockers?I mean, surely the gym bought new lockers when they opened? And its the Millenniumbuilding gym, so the building and the gym can't be that old? (Did someone buy usedlockers for the gym when it opened)?12. How come the gym doesn't use oil in the locks for the lockers, if it, like Neil said,is a problem with the 'locks often get stuck'?13: And why didn't the gym put key-tags on the lockers, when about half of the key-tags were missing, and I had spoken about this problem with both Neil and the womanwho was in charge there on the day this incident ocured, I think it was on 26/4?Problems with the washing of the machines:When I wrote the e-mail about the problem with the washing women/girls in themens changing-room in the opening hours, then it came to mind that maybethe washing-should should rather wash the machines, and then wait untillthe gym has closed, before they washed the changing-rooms.The reason I thought about this, is because I remembered an incident from whenI was working out, I think it must have been in April or May.Then I was working out at the thread-mill, and this was I seem to remember hoursbefore closing-time.There were a couple of washing-ladys there, even if it was still a few hours untilclosing-time.They were just walking around a bit, seemingly not certain on the routine.But then one of the washing ladies started to wash the stepping-machine in frontof me. But what I thought was a bit strange, was that she only washed the tip ofone of the handles of the stepping machine, and then nothing else. This she didtwice with a few minuttes inbetween.Other than that, I couldn't see that eighter she or her collegue washed any of theother machines. (They looked a bit lost there, walking around with their bucketswhile the gym was still quite crowded, since it was hours till closing-time.)My question regarding this is:14: Shouldn't the washing-staff put up a sign near the machines when they washthem during the time of which the gym is open? Couldn't people get hurt ifthey work out on machines that are slippery from being washed? I seem toremember from other places I've been working etc., that yellow plastic signsare being put on the floor etc., saying that one have to be careful since itsnewly washed, so shouldn't the washing staff in the gym also do this whenthey clean the machines within the opening hours?Problems with staff:Like I've written, there have been some incedents before that I have wonderedif I should complain about, but I'm not always sure whos in charge there, sothis makes it a bit more tricky to complain, and I've also had the problemwith the arrears on my membership, and the manager let me work outthere and pay the arrears later, so there was a threshold before I wouldcomplain.But I wrote down in my note-book a couple of things I reacted on anyway.I was wondering a bit what was going on there, e.g. on 24/5 Craig anda blond girl sits in the reception.Only Craig logs in the members, even if there is a long queue. The girlis only watching. (I think maybe she is his girlfriend, since I noticedthem sitting very close once when I wanted to log in).So I was wondering, if there is a long queue, surely both of them couldlog in the users of the gym, so that they wouldn't have to wait in a line,like if some of the customers are there to sign up for a membership,then still everyone have to wait in one line, even if there are morestaff at work.So then I was wondering what is the girl doing there, if she cant log inthe customers, and is only sitting watching.And I think she had been working there a while then, so I dont thinkshe was on training.So this seemed a bit strange to me, so I thought I could mention itwhile Im writing this e-mail anyway.Also, I remember, that one Friday I was working out there, then theyannonced the closing of the gym like this:'The gym will be closing in 60 minutes', 'The gym will be closing in45 minutes', 'The gym will be closing in 30 minutes', 'The gym willbe closing in 15 minutes'.I think it was the same girl, but it seemed like it was Craig that toldher to say it.Normally they only say 'The gym will be closing in 20 minuttes', orsomething like this, so I thought I could mention this as well, evenif its maybe not so important what they say on the calling-systemin the Friday evenings? Anyway, I thought I could mention it whileI was writing the e-mail anyway.My question to this is:15. How come the staff only sits watching while the customers arestanding in line?16. Shouldn't the staff have name-tags, where it said name and title,so that it would be easier for the users of the gym to know who tospeak with regarding different problems. (So that they know whoare in charge)?(For instance, on the day when there were washing girls/women inthe mens changing room, and they must have been there fromaround 8.40 pm. or earlier, because I went in there on 8.45 pm,and then they were well into their routine it looked like, before Iturned and went home.On that day (8/6), the staff that were working around closing-time,was Neil, a young girl that wears high-healed shoes and blouse,and a man around 40 years maybe that I think could maybe is thegirls father, because I saw him standing very close to the girl once.I thought maybe the girl was in a kind of responsible position there,since she wear office-clothes, but the guy in his forthies I reckonalso could be in charge there, since hes the oldest etc., and alsoNeil I reckoned could have been in charge, since he has accessto the master-keys etc.So its a bit embarrasing asking about whos in charge, becauseyou wouldn't want to offend anyone, with asking whos in charge,and then its actually that person who is in charge.I don't say that it is impossible for the customers of the gym tofind out whose in charge, but I thought that it could maybe addto the general level of customer-service at the gym if the staffwas wearing name-tags.I wrote down a note of who that was working that day, so thatI would know later, since I wrote the e-mail that day with thecomplaint about the washing-staff in the chaning-room, so Ithought I'd write it down, in case it became an issue.)17. Should they really anounce that the gym is closing in 60 minutes,and that the gym is closing in 45 minutes etc.?Problems with direct-debit agreement on 13/12/06:While I was looking for some notes before I started writing thise-mail now, I found a letter from the gym from 8/12/06.I'll just write what it says:'Dear Mr. Ribsskog,RE: Lifestyles Membership No: LDD121346As a valued Lifestyles member, I was surprised to find that your monthlyLifestyles subscription of £23.50 due earlier this month has not been paid.You may be aware of this already and have made payment at theLifestyles centre, if so, please accept my apologies.If you have not paid these arrears, I would ask that you pay them at yourearliest convienience by contacting your nearest Lifestyles Centre. Yourmembership account can be updated at any of the centres and you canpay either by cash, cheque, credit or debit card.Please contact Liverpool Direct on 0151 233 3007 for the number of yournearest Lifestye centre.I regret that until any arrears have been paid, standard admissioncharges will apply and you will lose the benefits of your membership.Yours feithfullySteve KnealeBusiness Development Manager'.(I write quite fast, so I thought I could just write it down, so that it would beeasier to understand what I meant.)There were some problems regarding me switching from a Barclays Cashcardaccount to a Barclays Current-account at around the end of November/beginningof December 2006.The problem was that my pay from work was switched to the new current-account,whereas the direct-debits remained connected to the old account.I was in a busy period with work etc., so I didnt think about this problem before Igot a letter from the bank about it.So I went to the bank, and transfered all my direct-debits from my old Barlayscashcard account, and to my new Barclays current/visa account.The clerk in the bank did this for me, it was a quite routine operation it seemedto me.Exept for the Lifestyles direct-debit for some reason.This direct-debit had been canceled right away, in a way so that the clerk in thebank couldnt transfer it to the new account.And when I went to the gym on 13/12, I had to pay the charge for Decemeber atthe gym, and it wasn't possible for me to just switch the existing direct-debitagreement from my old Barlays Cashcard account to my new Barclays Currentaccount, but I had to fill out a new form all over again to set up the newdirect debit agreement on my new account.I accept that it was my fault with forgetting to transfer the direct-debit to thenew account (It was some comunication-problem at work, with me informingwork that I had got a new bank-account, but with work not giving me anyfeedback on that they had changed my account information in the paymentsystem).But because of the later problem with the direct debits now in June, I thoughtI could ask a couple of questions regarding this as well, while I'm at it, so tospeak.18: How come that the gym canceled my direct-debit between 1/12 and 8/12,and sent me a letter on 8/12, where it said that I had to go to the gym andpay in cash, when I had never had any payment problems with the gym beforethis, and all the other direct-debits were possible to switch (for the clerk atthe bank to my new account), except the gyms direct-debit? Shouldn't thegym have tryed to collect the payment from my account again 7-14 dayslater, like the clerk in the bank told me that the other companies did?19: Why did I have to write my signature on, and fill out a new form all overagain on 13/12, for a new direct-debit. Didn't the gym have all my informationfrom before, have one got to fill out and sign a new form just because onegets a new account-number, when one are still using the same bank?(The signature of the women I spoke with on the gym on 13/12/06, lookslike it says Probert as a last name by the way, in case that makes itany easier to find out about this.I remember I thought it was strange that I had to fill out the form all overagain, just because of the problem of the one payment due to theproblems with changing the direct-debits and my pay from work tothe new account, in a coordinated way.Because it didn't seem to be a similiar problem with the other companiesthat also had direct-debits on my account, so therefore I remember thatI thought that this was a bit strange.And now, due to the other problems with the direct-debits again, now inJune, I thought I'd just ask about the earlier problems, since they cameto mind now.also this:How come I got a letter sent 8 days after the missed payment in December,where as later, in January, February and March (with the new direct-debit setup on 13/12), I didn't get a letter at all.It went on for two or three months, it must have been, before someone remindedme that there were arrears on my membership.I was quite busy in this time-periode, even if I was unemployed, so I didn'thave so much money then, so I should maybe have spoken with the staff aboutthis myself, but I much problems with paying my rent etc., and I was glad tohave the oppertunity to work-out, since it was a bit stressing not having ajob, and it helped to work-out to relax from the stress.And also, the staff gave different information to me regarding the arrears. Thegirl wearing office-wear, and who worked on 8/6, for instance, told me onone occation that it wasn't a hurry paying the arrears at all. (As long as Ipaid the running bills, which I did).And other members of staff, Craig for instance, told me that I had to pay thearrears before a certain date, (I spoke with the manager and got an extension,and later I agreed with Craig that I would pay the arrears when I got first theloan I was promised from the bank, and later the switch-bonus I was promisedfrom the bank.)So the questions regarding this:20: How come in December I get a letter for not paying after 8 days, where asin the new year, it goes in the region of two or three months without recievinga letter or reminder from the staff, even if I worked out several times a week?21: How come one member of the staff (the girl with the office-wear who workedon 8/6), says that there is no hurry with the arrears, where as another memberof staff (Craig), says that I have to pay before this and this date? How is thisreally supposed to be, according to the rules?(I appriciate very much that I was allowed to work out at the gym even if I hadarrears, so it's not because I am ungrateful that I ask about these things. It'sjust that due to the other problems, with the washing-women/girls in the changingroom, and the problems with the continuing processing errors and duplicatepayments with the direct debits.And also due to the problems surrounding the unanounced closure of the gymfor six weeks due to refurbishment.Due to these problems, I thought it would be best to mention all the otherproblems while I was at it. Even if some of these problems aren't maybethat serious in themselves, I anyway thought that they were worth bringingup, because, I think, thay add to a general picture of things at the gymbeing a bit out of hand, so due to this I'm a bit concerned about whatsreally going on at the gym, and then I thought it would be best to mentionedall the things that came to mind, because these things, even if it isn't clearto me here and now that there for certain is a problem conected with them,it could be a problem, so I thought it would be the most responsible thingto do, to also add the latter part of the problems, the ones that are mentionedunder the title 'other problems'.So even if it was the first five or ten questions that made me go to the stepof complaining. Even so, I hope you have the oppertunity to answer me aboutthe last part of the questions as well.Sorry again that this e-mail got a bit delayed. I know I said I'd send it no latterthan Wednesday, but I reckon that as long as I send it before the office hourson Thursday, then it hopefully should be ok.I'll also forward this e-mail to Linda Lennon and Lesley Southern, since I've beencopying the e-mails I've sent to them earlier, in this e-mail now.Hope that this is alright, and that you bear over with me if some of the last questionswasn't as well stated as they should have been, due to time problems etc.Hope that this is alright!Yours sincerely,Erik Ribsskog–
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Erik Ribsskog
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Anmeldelse av telefonsjikane.
Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>
Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:31 PM
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Hei,jeg viser til telefonsamtale, tidligere i dag.
Jeg forklarte det, at problemet var, at faren min, driver å ringer
meg, selv om jeg har sagt klart fra,
at jeg ikke ønsker mer med han å gjøre.
Han ringte 2-3 ganger, etter at jeg sa fra om det.
Så ringte jeg politiet i Drammen, og sa fra om problemet.
Og vi ble enige om at jeg skulle skrive opp tid og date, for telefonene.
Så ringte faren min igjen, like etter at jeg pratet med politiet.
Da svarte jeg, at jeg har kontaktet politiet i Drammen, og at jeg skal
sende brev til dere, hvis han
ikke slutter å ringe.
Så går det mindre enn ti minutter, så ringer faren min igjen.
Dere sier, at dere ikke blander dere så mye, i familie-forhold.
Men jeg har jo som sagt bodd i England i tre år nå.
Og oppveksten min, i Hellinga og Leirfaret, var jo sånn, at jeg bodde
alene, fra jeg var ni år,
i Hellinga, og fra jeg var 11 år, i Leirfaret.
Mens faren min, Arne Mogan Olsen, bodde nede hos Haldis Humblen, i Havnehagen.
Så jeg bodde altså alene, fra jeg var ni år til jeg var nitten, da jeg
flyttet til Oslo, for
å studere.
Med untak av det siste året jeg bodde på Bergeråsen.
Da studerte jeg på Gjerde VGS, ved gågata på Bragernes, og jobba på CC Storkjøp.
Det siste halve året jeg gikk på Gjerde, så flytta søstra mi, Pia
Ribsskog, opp fra
faren min og Haldis.
Jeg bodde i Larvik, hos moren min, Karen Ribsskog, som døde i 1999,
før jeg flyttet til
Bergeråsen, i 1979.
Men jeg ble altså boende alene, i Hellinga og Leirfaret, fordi at,
etter noen måneder,
så flyttet faren min ned til Haldis Humblen.
Men ingen kontaktet barneværnet, eller noe, for det er vel ikke
meningen av niåringer,
skal bo alene.
Jeg husker at jeg ikke var vant til å sove aleine i huset, da jeg var så ung.
Og jeg fikk ikke så mye klær, og ingen brydde seg om jeg pussa tenna,
eller om jeg
ble hjemme en dag fra skolen, noe som skjedde ganske ofte, ettersom
ingen sjekka,
om jeg kom meg på skolen.
Jeg ble ganske deprimert, av å bo aliene, da jeg var sånn 9-10 år, for
jeg vant med å
bo med moren min, stefaren min og søstra mi, i Larvik, så jeg var ikke
vant til å bo i
en leilighet aleine, da jeg var ni år.
Og siden jeg gikk med de samme klærna hele tida, og ikke pussa tenna
så mye osv.,
så ble jeg litt mobba.
Eller hva det kom av.
Så det var ikke alltid jeg orka å gå på skolen, så da ble jeg bare
hjemme, hvis jeg ikke
hadde ork til å komme meg på skolen.
Så det var ikke noen vanlig oppvekst.
Så det er ikke noen vanlig familie da.
Jeg og faren min, hadde nesten ikke noe kontakt, fra 90-tallet, og
frem til at han begynte
å ringe nå, for noen måneder siden, og har ringt ofte.
Og vi har sagt det sånn, at nå kutter vi ut kontakten.
Men han bare ringer igjen.
Og etter at jeg sa det, at nå har jeg ringt politiet i Drammen, så nå
sender jeg dem brev,
hvis du ringer igjen.
Så gikk det mindre enn ti minutter, så ringte faren min igjen.
Og det er ikke noe vanlig familie, som vi har hatt.
Så jeg forventer det, å bli respektert, hvis jeg sier det, at jeg ikke
vil ha flere rare telefoner,
fra faren min.
Eller, at jeg ikke vil ha flere telefoner i det hele tatt.
Så da forventer jeg å bli repektert.
Og det blir jeg ikke.
Så jeg vil si at jeg blir sjikanert.
Og nå har jeg hatt nok.
Så nå sender jeg den her anmeldelsen, så vil jeg at faren min blir
siktet og straffet for denne
sjikaneringen.
For det er rimelig plagsomt, og det skjønner faren min.
Så sånn er det.
Med vennlig hilsen
Erik Ribsskog


