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Oppdatering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved





Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>





Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:47 PM





To:

Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no, frode.kvalo@marmuseum.no


Cc:

Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk


Bcc:

emb.london@mfa.no, gunvor.haustveit@ra.no



Hvis dere ikke svarer, fra Norsk Maritimt Museum, så sladrer jeg til Riksantikvaren.

Det var de som sa at dere hadde greie på det her.
Britene svarer med en gang.
Med hilsen

Erik Ribsskog
PS.
Kulturhistorisk Museum har heller ikke svart.
Jeg sender til alle i den rekkefølgen som Riksantikvaren listet de opp, i denne e-posten:

From: Haustveit, Gunvor <gunvor.haustveit@ra.no>

Date: 2010/10/18

Subject: Svar på spørsmål "hjelp med å grave opp vikingskip i England"

To: eribsskog@gmail.com

Hei og takk for
e-post.

Det er flere kompetansesentra og forskere som er dyktige på feltet

om vikingskip. Anbefaler først og fremst: Kulturhistorisk museum med
Vikingskipshuset, dernest Norsk Maritimt Museum og Norsk Institutt for
kulturminneforskning. I Danmark er det kompetanse ved Roskilde museum.

Lykke til!


Helsing

Gunvor Haustveit
Informasjonsseksjonen


Riksantikvaren

Postboks 8196 Dep

0034 Oslo
Tlf: + 47 98 20 27 60

www.riksantikvaren.no

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved
To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

Hi,

yes, I didn't understand the routine, to get on the conference.
But, I haden't seen the exhipition yet, Reap and Pillage, so I just went to Chester that day, but the train was a few minutes early, so I got there a bit late.

And then I spoke with the people working there, at the museum, who got me in there, after the first break.

I understood it like that one only had to register at the museum, from your website.

But now I understand, that I should have ordered a ticket.
This wasn't clear to me, from reading your website.
But, this is just a hobby for me, with the viking-stuff on the Wirral, so I read about it like I would have read an online newspaper etc.

But next time I'll make sure to contact the hosts before I go to a conference like that.
Sorry about that misunderstanding again!
It sounds very fine about the video of the conference.

I'll update you if I hear more from the Norwegian Maritime Museum, about the Vikingship, under the pub, Railway Inn, in Meols.
Thanks again for arranging the fine viking conference!

Best regards,
Erik Ribsskog

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Thanks Erik. We are waiting to receive the video material (and

permissions) on the conference and hopefully you should be able to

catch up on the Introduction and the other talks you missed at the start.

This will also be of benefit to others, particularly the many people

who wanted to attend but were unable to get tickets.

Paa gjensyn,

Steve


From: Erik Ribsskog

[mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

Sent: 10 December 2010

14:16
To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: Fwd:

Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now

resolved

Hi,

that is, I don't want to have this as a life-style, with football-games

at the Wirral and be mate with the Icelandic guy from the Scandinavian Church,

etc.

I only care about the viking-stuff on the Wirral etc.

Because I have a lot of different interests, like blog, genealogy,

web-design, etc., etc.

So I haven't got that much spare-time.

So this isn't about the community-stuff, this is just about the

vikingship and the conference.

Hope you include the questions from the audience, (from me and

others), in the summary, since I brought up about the vikingship in Meols

etc.

Hope this is alright, don't mean to be to direct/inpolite.

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

PS.

Maybe I'll go on a movie, or something, part of the Nordic festival,

but I haven't got the time to go there all the time, unfortunately.

I thought about going on Max Manus, (the Norwegian was-movie), in the

Scandinavian chruch last year.

And I asked a young Swedish woman, Amanda, who works at Netto,

Weaverthree, if she had been at the Scandinavian Church, but she hadn't.

Also, I have an employment-case, against Bertelsmann Arvato Microsoft

Scandinavian Product Activation:

Perhaps

you know someone at the University of Nottingham, who could help me with this

case, as a pro-bono-case, because this case involved/involves many

Scandinavians living in Liverpool.

(My alumumni, at University of Sunderland, haven't replied).

Also, some of the employees there, had a lot to do with the Scandinavian

Church, (and are included in the case), an Irish/Swede called Michael

O'Shaughnessy etc., so I'm a bit vary about the Scandinavian Church, to be

frank.

So I think I'll only keep this at the level it's been at, that I only

go to the odd trip/event at my own choice.

Hope this is alright!

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

Date:

Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for

problems with Amazon link, now resolved
To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

Hi,

ok, perhaps I'll do that!

Thank you very much for your help!

I'll update you as soon as possible, if I hear something more from the

Vikingship-experts in Norway.

Thank you very much again for your reply!

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Thanks

Erik

We'll put a summary up

soon on http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve and may be able to

include some videos of the talks – including the Intro – once we

have permission from the speakers.
If you like I can also put you in touch with Ingi

Thor Jonsson – like yourself a resident Livepudlian – who runs the

annual NICE (Nordic Cultural Events) Festival, I think you and Ingi

would get on very well. There will eventually be a book based

on the Conference but that won't be for some

months,

Ha det

bra

Steve


Vikings: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve



From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

Sent: 07 December 2010 14:53
To: Stephen

Harding
Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with

Amazon link, now resolved

Hi,

thank you very much for you e-mail!

I've now sent about the Vikingship in Meols, to the Norwegian

Maritime Museum, at Bygdøy, in Oslo.

They are also experts on vikingships, and the conserving of

these, like Cultural Historical Musum, in Oslo are.

I'll update you more, if and when I hear back from them.

Has anyone written a summary from the viking-conference, which I

could write about on my blog, since I have a travel-blog etc., where I

write about my short travels from Liverpool to different Norwegian Viking

places in the Wirral.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Harding

<Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Dear all,

Firstly apologies for the bulk nature of

this email again and secondly apologies to those who have had difficulty

accessing the book (with its marvellous foreword by Michael Wood)

through amazon.co.uk.:

Although because of the demand (many

thanks!) the site says "Out of Stock" if you click on the "2 new" you

should be able to order the book immediately and in time for

Christmas. Thirdly apologies if you have no interest in

the Vikings!

All best wishes

Steve, Turi and Mark


From: Harding

Stephen
Sent: 02 December 2010 14:41
To: undisclosed

recipients
Subject: Viking DNA book


Dear Colleagues (including many of you who took

part in the genetic survey of northwest England, 2002-2007, or the

Nordic Festival in 2008)

Apologies if you get this message more than once!

We are writing to bring to your attention a publication we have

just produced. It focuses on the first part

of a genetic survey of northern

England
– the Wirral and West Lancashire project

in the northwest – and explains the

basis behind the DNA method to probe ancestry, the use of

surnames to help to localize volunteers to specific regions of the

country, and how genetic methods are being used in conjunction with

historical, archaeological and linguistic evidence to learn about Viking

ancestry. It also gives some examples from

individual results and from comparing populations of people to help show

what these new technologies can achieve.

Publication of the book has been supported by one of the UK

Research Councils who have been supporting the study (the Biotechnology

and Biological Sciences Research Council) – and Nottingham University

Press in conjunction with Countyvise Limited have very kindly produced

this for us and indeed done a splendid job. We

would like to stress that we as authors are not taking any Royalties or

profit!

The book is introduced with a

brilliant foreword by famous UK/BBC historian/broadcaster

Michael Wood after which we set out to show as clearly as

we can, with the help of full colour illustrations – what DNA is and how

DNA methods can be used to probe both individual and population

ancestry. For probing Viking ancestry it shows the

importance of using DNA in conjunction with historical, linguistic,

place name and archaeological evidence – again with the help of

many colour illustrations
, and explains how DNA can be used to

probe paternal ancestry and maternal ancestry either for individuals or

for populations of people, explaining also some of the sometimes

complicated jargon that scientists use.

A major problem in studying

population ancestry is the large population movements that have occurred

since the Industrial Revolution. However there is a

strong link between surnames and paternal DNA ancestry and the book

explains how information such as Henry VIII’s tax rolls, , and even

criminal records (including someone accused of killing a dog in 1348 ….

found not guilty!) can be used to help establish the volunteer base for

specific regions of northern England. Using these

methods significant Scandinavian ancestry (up to 50% of the mixture of

DNA from the old populations) has been shown for Wirral and West

Lancashire. One youngster from Wirral was so

impressed with the results for her father she wrote a

School project “My Viking Dad and his Viking Dog”! The book finishes

with a look towards the current testing of other regions of Northern

England and the research currently being undertaken with

colleagues in Norway to study the genetic profile of Scandinavia in

the Viking Age.

This broadcast on BBC

Radio 4 gives some more information about the survey: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/making_history/making_history_20080520.shtml (after

the first minute or so)

So we think it will be a useful read for anyone interested

in DNA ancestry and, after seeing what we have done in the North West,

give people from other regions an idea of how their own past could be

researched. The book is 150 pages long and

extensively illustrated in colour. The

book has just become available in all good

bookshops in the north West or from
Amazon.co.uk *and would make an excellent Christmas

present.

Steve Harding, Mark Jobling and Turi King





Stephen Harding DSc(Oxon)
Professor of Applied

Biochemistry
NCMH Laboratory,
University of Nottingham
Sutton

Bonington
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UK

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