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    Erik Ribsskog
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    Problems with e-mail-address for PSD/Fwd: Undeliverable: Update/Fwd: Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)



    Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 3:30 PM


    To:
    “BYRNE, Maureen” <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk>
    Hi, that didn’t work. So I guess I have to try the form then. But I think it’s strange that one could send PSD an e-mail in 2007, but not in 2013. Is that progress I’m wondering.
    Best regards, Erik Ribsskog
    On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:39 PM, <postmaster@merseyside.police.uk> wrote:



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    Subject: Update/Fwd: Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med
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    Update/Fwd: Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)






    Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>


    Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:39 PM



    To:
    “BYRNE, Maureen” <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk>

    Cc:
    psd@merseyside.police.uk






    Hi, I got this e-mail address for them, in 2007. So I try to copy them this e-mail. Yours sincerely, Erik Ribsskog PS. Here is more about this: From: psd.cab@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk < psd.cab@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk>
    Date: Dec 31, 2007 9:49 AM
    Subject: RE: Complaint
    To: eribsskog@gmail.com
    Erik I have forwarded your email to the Professional Standards department
    of Merseyside Police.  Please direct any further correspondence to
    them atpsd@merseyside.police.uk Regards Jeff Talbot
    SOCA Counter Corruption Department (CCD1)
    Classification: Not Protectively Marked
    This information is supplied in confidence by SOCA, and is exempt from
    disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. It may also be
    subject to exemption under other UK legislation. Onward disclosure may
    be unlawful, for example, under the Data Protection Act 1998. Requests for disclosure to the public must be referred to the SOCA FOI
    single point of contact, by email on foiaenquiries@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk
    or by telephoning 020 7238 8677
    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    Date: Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:02 PM
    Subject: Re: Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med
    politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    To: “BYRNE, Maureen” <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk>
    Hi, ok, I’ll see if I can find the e-mail address for the professional
    standards-department then. I don’t like the web-forms, you see. I’ve gone to commerce-school, (in Norway), and learned that the
    citizens can just send a normal letter, (or these days e-mail). Thank you very much for explaining to me how to sort this. Yours sincerely, Erik Ribsskog PS. Are you going to do anything with the Ofcom-case, I was wondering a bit. PS 2. If you by chance know the e-mail-address to the Merseyside Police
    Professional Standards Department, then that would be very fine. PS 3. When I lived in Sunderland, a couple of years ago, one couldn’t send
    normal e-mails to the Police. One had to log in to their website. I don’t like that, that’s not right with what I learned on
    commerce-shool, (I think). The citizens should be allowed to send just a normal e-mail to organisations. It’s like some kind of ‘Russian’ stuff if they have the ‘funny’ stuff, I think.
    On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:52 PM, BYRNE, Maureen
    <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk> wrote:
    > Merseyside Police have a complaints from on their website which is then dealt with by their professional standards department.
    >
    > Yours sincerely
    >
    > Maureen Byrne
    > Office of Steve Rotheram MP
    >
    >
    >
    > —–Original Message—–
    > From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    > Sent: 14 November 2013 13:48
    > To: BYRNE, Maureen
    > Subject: Re: Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > ok, so I send to the IPCC if I’m not happy with the way the Merseyside Police deal with my complaint.
    >
    > But is it a special department within the Merseyside Police that deals with police-complaints?
    >
    > (I could perhaps look at their website).
    >
    > Thanks in advance for any help!
    >
    > Yours sincerely,
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog
    >
    >
    > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:38 PM, BYRNE, Maureen <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk> wrote:
    >> The IPCC form may have to be completed with the full details of the complaint – either on line or possibly by post if you can print a copy off – in order for this to be dealt with.
    >>
    >> Yours sincerely
    >>
    >> Maureen Byrne
    >> Office of Steve Rotheram MP
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> —–Original Message—–
    >> From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    >> Sent: 14 November 2013 13:32
    >> To: BYRNE, Maureen
    >> Subject: Re: Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med
    >> politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >>
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> the problem is that when I send e-mails to the IPCC, then that e-mail address doesn’t work.
    >>
    >> I’d like to hear this from the IPCC.
    >>
    >> I don’t like the webforms, since I think the citizens has more control on the communication if they have a copy of the correspondence, in their e-mail-programme.
    >>
    >> Best regards,
    >>
    >> Erik Ribsskog
    >>
    >> PS.
    >>
    >> Then I guess it should be a special department, within the Merseyside Police, that I should send the IPCC-case to?
    >>
    >> PS 2.
    >>
    >> I’ll also try to find more about the other case I mentioned in the previous e-mail.
    >>
    >>
    >> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:00 PM, BYRNE, Maureen <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk> wrote:
    >>> Thank you for your address.  It is unclear from your email what you are asking Steve Rotheram MP to do on your behalf. If you have a complaint against the police you would in the first instance have to make this to the police force concerned for them to investigate.  If you remain dissatisfied with their response you can of course take this to the Independent Police Complaints Commission which can investigate, as this is not the role of the Parliamentary Ombuds.  The IPCC website gives details of how to make a complaint and has the required form for you to complete, which does not require your Member of Parliament to sign.
    >>>
    >>> Yours sincerely
    >>>
    >>> Maureen Byrne
    >>> Office of Steve Rotheram MP
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> —–Original Message—–
    >>> From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    >>> Sent: 14 November 2013 11:47
    >>> To: BYRNE, Maureen
    >>> Subject: Re: Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer
    >>> med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >>>
    >>> Hi,
    >>>
    >>> thank you for your e-mail!
    >>>
    >>> My home address should be:
    >>>
    >>> 10 Keith Court
    >>> Keith Avenue
    >>> Liverpool
    >>> L4 5XJ
    >>>
    >>> (I’ve earlier been in touch with you regarding some cases in July, (to do with the Jobcentre), and which were resolved, if I remember it right.
    >>>
    >>> And there was also a case before that, I think, regarding the ‘telephone ombudsman’, (or something like that), which I can’t remember now it was resolved.
    >>>
    >>> Just something I thought about now, as an update).
    >>>
    >>> Thanks very much for the help with this!
    >>>
    >>> Best regards,
    >>>
    >>> Erik Ribsskog
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, BYRNE, Maureen <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk> wrote:
    >>>> Steve has received your email and passed this to the constituency office.  In order for this to be progressed we will need to have your home address in line with parliamentary protocol.
    >>>>
    >>>> Yours sincerely
    >>>>
    >>>> Maureen Byrne
    >>>> Office of Steve Rotheram MP
    >>>> 0151 525 5025
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> —–Original Message—–
    >>>> From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    >>>> Sent: 14 November 2013 08:18
    >>>> To: ROTHERAM, Steve
    >>>> Cc: post
    >>>> Subject: Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd:
    >>>> Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >>>>
    >>>> Hi,
    >>>>
    >>>> when I send an e-mail to the e-mail address which is on the IPCC website, then this e-mail address doesn’t work, (see forwarded e-mail).
    >>>>
    >>>> Could you contact the Parliamentary Ombudsman please.
    >>>>
    >>>> And hear if they can get the IPCC to put a working e-mail address on their website, (so that I can send some police-complaints to the IPCC).
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks in advance for any help!
    >>>>
    >>>> Yours sincerely,
    >>>>
    >>>> Erik Ribsskog
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
    >>>> From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    >>>> Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:36 PM
    >>>> Subject: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status
    >>>> Notification (Failure)
    >>>> To: post <post@spesialenheten.no>
    >>>> Cc: COMMCEN <COMMCEN@merseyside.police.uk>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Hei,
    >>>>
    >>>> jeg sender denne til dere, for e-post-adressen som står på nettstedet til den engelske spesialenheten, (IPCC), virker ikke, virker det som for meg.
    >>>>
    >>>> Erik Ribsskog
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
    >>>> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon@googlemail.com>
    >>>> Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:25 PM
    >>>> Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >>>> To: eribsskog@gmail.com
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
    >>>>
    >>>>      enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk
    >>>>
    >>>> Technical details of permanent failure:
    >>>> Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain ipcc.gsi.gov.uk by cluster.gsi.messagelabs.com. [194.106.220.3].
    >>>>
    >>>> The error that the other server returned was:
    >>>> 553-Sorry, your email address eribsskog@gmail.com has been
    >>>> 553-blacklisted. Please see the FAQs section on spam at
    >>>> 553-http://www.messagelabs.com/support/ for more
    >>>> 553 information. (#5.7.1)
    >>>>
    >>>> —– Original message —–
    >>>>
    >>>> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
    >>>>         d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
    >>>>         h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type;
    >>>>         bh=nPZSbZji+/pJLScI4mJwRGPoGVdT5nlaF6ll58e2Kmk=;
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    >>>>          wp5g==
    >>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
    >>>> X-Received: by 10.66.191.198 with SMTP id
    >>>> ha6mr26217796pac.72.1384284355721;
    >>>>  Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:25:55 -0800 (PST)
    >>>> Received: by 10.70.72.99 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:25:55 -0800
    >>>> (PST)
    >>>> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 19:25:55 +0000
    >>>> Message-ID:
    >>>> <CAGtfns7DNL6T03rLp6630xHEqzwaYjgdrbsdYv_=BnWG-Fy2YA@mail.gmail.com>
    >>>> Subject: Update/Fwd: LOG 1507 02/11/13…….Harassment from Hungry
    >>>> House –
    >>>>  17991 – [Not Protectively Marked]
    >>>> From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    >>>> To: COMMCEN <COMMCEN@merseyside.police.uk>
    >>>> Cc: “!enquiries” <enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk>
    >>>> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=047d7b67597a4c9a2304eaffd1fd
    >>>>
    >>>> Hi,
    >>>>
    >>>> I was at Walton Lane police-station right now regarding four cases.
    >>>>
    >>>> I spoke with constable 3174.
    >>>>
    >>>> He ridiculed me and said the reason I had gotten 70 dodgy phone-calls and a lot of e-mails and 14 fast food-delivery guys on my door was because I had ticked a box on the internet.
    >>>>
    >>>> But I have a degree in IT and don’t think there is a box like that.
    >>>>
    >>>> I think some criminals are terrorising me.
    >>>>
    >>>> Regarding the strangler today at around 3PM at Heymarket.
    >>>>
    >>>> I attach a photograph of him.
    >>>>
    >>>> But the photo wasn’t that fine, due to that I wasn’t myself after the attack.
    >>>>
    >>>> Regarding the neighbour, (in 9 Keith Court), I think he’s a criminal.
    >>>>
    >>>> Since I overheard him treateing a guy in his 20’s some months ago that he would scrape up his car, (with his house-key), after they’d had an argument, (since the young Keith Court-guy said he would have hit the old guy in number nine if he had done a thing like that on the street).
    >>>>
    >>>> Also the guy in number 9 walks around in his underwear.
    >>>>
    >>>> He has been going on my door, with two, (and sometimes three), clocks, which he has asked me if were set right, (and sometimes he did this in his under-wear).
    >>>>
    >>>> He started the community care system, (since these are converted flats for the elderly), this spring, and I went out to see what was wrong with him.
    >>>>
    >>>> He said he needed to go to hospital, but really the problem was his door that had been smashed in the day before, it seemed.
    >>>>
    >>>> So I called the police, and a lock-smith fixed the door, later that day.
    >>>>
    >>>> Just to sumarise a bit.
    >>>>
    >>>> I’ve told this neighbour I want him to leave me alone.
    >>>>
    >>>> (Since he’s a criminal and I noticed his flat smelt very bad, when I called the police for him, when he had started the alarm for the elderly).
    >>>>
    >>>> But yesteday he stood outside my door and said ‘Good Morning’ when I was going to Tesco.
    >>>>
    >>>> I don’t think thats to leave me alone.
    >>>>
    >>>> So I told him, (loudly, to warn the neighbours etc.), to leave me alone.
    >>>>
    >>>> So I hope he leaves me alone now.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> —– Message truncated —–
    >>>>
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    >>>>
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    >>>
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    >>>
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    >>
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    Gmail – Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)






    Gmail

    Erik Ribsskog
    <eribsskog@gmail.com>






    Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)






    Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>


    Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:02 PM



    To:
    “BYRNE, Maureen” <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk>






    Hi, ok, I’ll see if I can find the e-mail address for the professional
    standards-department then. I don’t like the web-forms, you see. I’ve gone to commerce-school, (in Norway), and learned that the
    citizens can just send a normal letter, (or these days e-mail). Thank you very much for explaining to me how to sort this.

    Yours sincerely, Erik Ribsskog PS.
    Are you going to do anything with the Ofcom-case, I was wondering a bit. PS 2. If you by chance know the e-mail-address to the Merseyside Police
    Professional Standards Department, then that would be very fine. PS 3. When I lived in Sunderland, a couple of years ago, one couldn’t send
    normal e-mails to the Police. One had to log in to their website. I don’t like that, that’s not right with what I learned on
    commerce-shool, (I think). The citizens should be allowed to send just a normal e-mail to organisations. It’s like some kind of ‘Russian’ stuff if they have the ‘funny’ stuff, I think.
    On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:52 PM, BYRNE, Maureen
    <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk> wrote:
    > Merseyside Police have a complaints from on their website which is then dealt with by their professional standards department.
    >
    > Yours sincerely
    >
    > Maureen Byrne
    > Office of Steve Rotheram MP
    >
    >
    >
    > —–Original Message—–
    > From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    > Sent: 14 November 2013 13:48
    > To: BYRNE, Maureen
    > Subject: Re: Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > ok, so I send to the IPCC if I’m not happy with the way the Merseyside Police deal with my complaint.
    >
    > But is it a special department within the Merseyside Police that deals with police-complaints?
    >
    > (I could perhaps look at their website).
    >
    > Thanks in advance for any help!
    >
    > Yours sincerely,
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog
    >
    >
    > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:38 PM, BYRNE, Maureen <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk> wrote:
    >> The IPCC form may have to be completed with the full details of the complaint – either on line or possibly by post if you can print a copy off – in order for this to be dealt with.
    >>
    >> Yours sincerely
    >>
    >> Maureen Byrne
    >> Office of Steve Rotheram MP
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> —–Original Message—–
    >> From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    >> Sent: 14 November 2013 13:32
    >> To: BYRNE, Maureen
    >> Subject: Re: Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med
    >> politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >>
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> the problem is that when I send e-mails to the IPCC, then that e-mail address doesn’t work.
    >>
    >> I’d like to hear this from the IPCC.
    >>
    >> I don’t like the webforms, since I think the citizens has more control on the communication if they have a copy of the correspondence, in their e-mail-programme.
    >>
    >> Best regards,
    >>
    >> Erik Ribsskog
    >>
    >> PS.
    >>
    >> Then I guess it should be a special department, within the Merseyside Police, that I should send the IPCC-case to?
    >>
    >> PS 2.
    >>
    >> I’ll also try to find more about the other case I mentioned in the previous e-mail.
    >>
    >>
    >> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:00 PM, BYRNE, Maureen <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk> wrote:
    >>> Thank you for your address.  It is unclear from your email what you are asking Steve Rotheram MP to do on your behalf. If you have a complaint against the police you would in the first instance have to make this to the police force concerned for them to investigate.  If you remain dissatisfied with their response you can of course take this to the Independent Police Complaints Commission which can investigate, as this is not the role of the Parliamentary Ombuds.  The IPCC website gives details of how to make a complaint and has the required form for you to complete, which does not require your Member of Parliament to sign.
    >>>
    >>> Yours sincerely
    >>>
    >>> Maureen Byrne
    >>> Office of Steve Rotheram MP
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> —–Original Message—–
    >>> From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    >>> Sent: 14 November 2013 11:47
    >>> To: BYRNE, Maureen
    >>> Subject: Re: Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer
    >>> med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >>>
    >>> Hi,
    >>>
    >>> thank you for your e-mail!
    >>>
    >>> My home address should be:
    >>>
    >>> 10 Keith Court
    >>> Keith Avenue
    >>> Liverpool
    >>> L4 5XJ
    >>>
    >>> (I’ve earlier been in touch with you regarding some cases in July, (to do with the Jobcentre), and which were resolved, if I remember it right.
    >>>
    >>> And there was also a case before that, I think, regarding the ‘telephone ombudsman’, (or something like that), which I can’t remember now it was resolved.
    >>>
    >>> Just something I thought about now, as an update).
    >>>
    >>> Thanks very much for the help with this!
    >>>
    >>> Best regards,
    >>>
    >>> Erik Ribsskog
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, BYRNE, Maureen <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk> wrote:
    >>>> Steve has received your email and passed this to the constituency office.  In order for this to be progressed we will need to have your home address in line with parliamentary protocol.
    >>>>
    >>>> Yours sincerely
    >>>>
    >>>> Maureen Byrne
    >>>> Office of Steve Rotheram MP
    >>>> 0151 525 5025
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> —–Original Message—–
    >>>> From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    >>>> Sent: 14 November 2013 08:18
    >>>> To: ROTHERAM, Steve
    >>>> Cc: post
    >>>> Subject: Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd:
    >>>> Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >>>>
    >>>> Hi,
    >>>>
    >>>> when I send an e-mail to the e-mail address which is on the IPCC website, then this e-mail address doesn’t work, (see forwarded e-mail).
    >>>>
    >>>> Could you contact the Parliamentary Ombudsman please.
    >>>>
    >>>> And hear if they can get the IPCC to put a working e-mail address on their website, (so that I can send some police-complaints to the IPCC).
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks in advance for any help!
    >>>>
    >>>> Yours sincerely,
    >>>>
    >>>> Erik Ribsskog
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
    >>>> From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    >>>> Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:36 PM
    >>>> Subject: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status
    >>>> Notification (Failure)
    >>>> To: post <post@spesialenheten.no>
    >>>> Cc: COMMCEN <COMMCEN@merseyside.police.uk>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Hei,
    >>>>
    >>>> jeg sender denne til dere, for e-post-adressen som står på nettstedet til den engelske spesialenheten, (IPCC), virker ikke, virker det som for meg.
    >>>>
    >>>> Erik Ribsskog
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
    >>>> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon@googlemail.com>
    >>>> Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:25 PM
    >>>> Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >>>> To: eribsskog@gmail.com
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
    >>>>
    >>>>      enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk
    >>>>
    >>>> Technical details of permanent failure:
    >>>> Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain ipcc.gsi.gov.uk by cluster.gsi.messagelabs.com. [194.106.220.3].
    >>>>
    >>>> The error that the other server returned was:
    >>>> 553-Sorry, your email address eribsskog@gmail.com has been
    >>>> 553-blacklisted. Please see the FAQs section on spam at
    >>>> 553-http://www.messagelabs.com/support/ for more
    >>>> 553 information. (#5.7.1)
    >>>>
    >>>> —– Original message —–
    >>>>
    >>>> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
    >>>>         d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
    >>>>         h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type;
    >>>>         bh=nPZSbZji+/pJLScI4mJwRGPoGVdT5nlaF6ll58e2Kmk=;
    >>>>         b=U8KfBaTGbB/63//aMD4U0koRuO+VWj86+xOZsGyUwLMixw/SWisbz/L7o3VKvC5W/m
    >>>>          SB9yGPoj/K8RyPkvjAz2OtzZO+ZLScB+eadLtXcsXkfL6GRQJF5WnxYcVLCNqW6zEqIP
    >>>>          UjDhLre5HwYDpImcH6PUhV5mWw19Ihx7PN3K/+NBEeTDh/nzgpZ2S6PA7iZOCfGRB+xp
    >>>>          Ois16iO2oePldlAP56ufhH9RREhlJ39dwNyHHQWGENxgSNOZIjFJMS/pJD6I910FCMGx
    >>>>          jPBpmam7d4+mNko1xCxaLZFmv+nllyifjZ2JmMq8oH2YP4nDgx+dk5r1VVaWDHgZcfb6
    >>>>          wp5g==
    >>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
    >>>> X-Received: by 10.66.191.198 with SMTP id
    >>>> ha6mr26217796pac.72.1384284355721;
    >>>>  Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:25:55 -0800 (PST)
    >>>> Received: by 10.70.72.99 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:25:55 -0800
    >>>> (PST)
    >>>> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 19:25:55 +0000
    >>>> Message-ID:
    >>>> <CAGtfns7DNL6T03rLp6630xHEqzwaYjgdrbsdYv_=BnWG-Fy2YA@mail.gmail.com>
    >>>> Subject: Update/Fwd: LOG 1507 02/11/13…….Harassment from Hungry
    >>>> House –
    >>>>  17991 – [Not Protectively Marked]
    >>>> From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    >>>> To: COMMCEN <COMMCEN@merseyside.police.uk>
    >>>> Cc: “!enquiries” <enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk>
    >>>> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=047d7b67597a4c9a2304eaffd1fd
    >>>>
    >>>> Hi,
    >>>>
    >>>> I was at Walton Lane police-station right now regarding four cases.
    >>>>
    >>>> I spoke with constable 3174.
    >>>>
    >>>> He ridiculed me and said the reason I had gotten 70 dodgy phone-calls and a lot of e-mails and 14 fast food-delivery guys on my door was because I had ticked a box on the internet.
    >>>>
    >>>> But I have a degree in IT and don’t think there is a box like that.
    >>>>
    >>>> I think some criminals are terrorising me.
    >>>>
    >>>> Regarding the strangler today at around 3PM at Heymarket.
    >>>>
    >>>> I attach a photograph of him.
    >>>>
    >>>> But the photo wasn’t that fine, due to that I wasn’t myself after the attack.
    >>>>
    >>>> Regarding the neighbour, (in 9 Keith Court), I think he’s a criminal.
    >>>>
    >>>> Since I overheard him treateing a guy in his 20’s some months ago that he would scrape up his car, (with his house-key), after they’d had an argument, (since the young Keith Court-guy said he would have hit the old guy in number nine if he had done a thing like that on the street).
    >>>>
    >>>> Also the guy in number 9 walks around in his underwear.
    >>>>
    >>>> He has been going on my door, with two, (and sometimes three), clocks, which he has asked me if were set right, (and sometimes he did this in his under-wear).
    >>>>
    >>>> He started the community care system, (since these are converted flats for the elderly), this spring, and I went out to see what was wrong with him.
    >>>>
    >>>> He said he needed to go to hospital, but really the problem was his door that had been smashed in the day before, it seemed.
    >>>>
    >>>> So I called the police, and a lock-smith fixed the door, later that day.
    >>>>
    >>>> Just to sumarise a bit.
    >>>>
    >>>> I’ve told this neighbour I want him to leave me alone.
    >>>>
    >>>> (Since he’s a criminal and I noticed his flat smelt very bad, when I called the police for him, when he had started the alarm for the elderly).
    >>>>
    >>>> But yesteday he stood outside my door and said ‘Good Morning’ when I was going to Tesco.
    >>>>
    >>>> I don’t think thats to leave me alone.
    >>>>
    >>>> So I told him, (loudly, to warn the neighbours etc.), to leave me alone.
    >>>>
    >>>> So I hope he leaves me alone now.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> —– Message truncated —–
    >>>>
    >>>> ________________________________
    >>>>
    >>>> UK Parliament Disclaimer:
    >>>> This e-mail is confidential to the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Any unauthorised use, disclosure, or copying is not permitted. This e-mail has been checked for viruses, but no liability is accepted for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail.
    >>>
    >>> ________________________________
    >>>
    >>> UK Parliament Disclaimer:
    >>> This e-mail is confidential to the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Any unauthorised use, disclosure, or copying is not permitted. This e-mail has been checked for viruses, but no liability is accepted for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail.
    >>
    >> ________________________________
    >>
    >> UK Parliament Disclaimer:
    >> This e-mail is confidential to the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Any unauthorised use, disclosure, or copying is not permitted. This e-mail has been checked for viruses, but no liability is accepted for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail.
    >
    > ________________________________
    >
    > UK Parliament Disclaimer:
    > This e-mail is confidential to the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Any unauthorised use, disclosure, or copying is not permitted. This e-mail has been checked for viruses, but no liability is accepted for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail.

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    Gmail – Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)






    Gmail

    Erik Ribsskog
    <eribsskog@gmail.com>






    Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)






    Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>


    Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:40 PM



    To:
    “BYRNE, Maureen” <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk>






    Hi, I found more about the Ofcom-case now, on my e-mail programme. Yours sincerely, Erik Ribsskog PS. Here is more about this: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:23 PM To:
    “BOOTH, Gary” <gary.booth@parliament.uk>


    Hi, thank you for your e-mail!
    My National Insurance Number is SG 27 09 67 D. It’s also a complaint from May. And then I wondered why Ofcom doesn’t have a general enquiery e-mail
    address on their website.
    (Because I wanted to complain to Ofcom about Virgin Broadband, some
    months ago, and ended up complaining to ICO instead, since I don’t
    like ‘web-mail’, like Ofcom has, (on their website), since then the
    citizens sometimes lose control of their complaints, I think, since
    one sometimes doesn’t recieve an e-mail where the complaint is
    written, when one use ‘web-mail’, instead of proper e-mail-addresses,
    because then one can have a copy of the sent e-mail in ones
    e-mail-programme, and have documentation about what one wrote). Thanks again for the reply! Best regards, Erik Ribsskog On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:36 PM, BYRNE, Maureen
    <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk> wrote:
    >
    >
    > —–Original Message—–
    > From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    > Sent: 14 November 2013 13:32
    > To: BYRNE, Maureen
    > Subject: Re: Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > the problem is that when I send e-mails to the IPCC, then that e-mail address doesn’t work.
    >
    > I’d like to hear this from the IPCC.
    >
    > I don’t like the webforms, since I think the citizens has more control on the communication if they have a copy of the correspondence, in their e-mail-programme.
    >
    > Best regards,
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog
    >
    > PS.
    >
    > Then I guess it should be a special department, within the Merseyside Police, that I should send the IPCC-case to?
    >
    > PS 2.
    >
    > I’ll also try to find more about the other case I mentioned in the previous e-mail.
    >
    >
    > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:00 PM, BYRNE, Maureen <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk> wrote:
    >> Thank you for your address.  It is unclear from your email what you are asking Steve Rotheram MP to do on your behalf. If you have a complaint against the police you would in the first instance have to make this to the police force concerned for them to investigate.  If you remain dissatisfied with their response you can of course take this to the Independent Police Complaints Commission which can investigate, as this is not the role of the Parliamentary Ombuds.  The IPCC website gives details of how to make a complaint and has the required form for you to complete, which does not require your Member of Parliament to sign.
    >>
    >> Yours sincerely
    >>
    >> Maureen Byrne
    >> Office of Steve Rotheram MP
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> —–Original Message—–
    >> From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    >> Sent: 14 November 2013 11:47
    >> To: BYRNE, Maureen
    >> Subject: Re: Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med
    >> politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >>
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> thank you for your e-mail!
    >>
    >> My home address should be:
    >>
    >> 10 Keith Court
    >> Keith Avenue
    >> Liverpool
    >> L4 5XJ
    >>
    >> (I’ve earlier been in touch with you regarding some cases in July, (to do with the Jobcentre), and which were resolved, if I remember it right.
    >>
    >> And there was also a case before that, I think, regarding the ‘telephone ombudsman’, (or something like that), which I can’t remember now it was resolved.
    >>
    >> Just something I thought about now, as an update).
    >>
    >> Thanks very much for the help with this!
    >>
    >> Best regards,
    >>
    >> Erik Ribsskog
    >>
    >>
    >> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, BYRNE, Maureen <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk> wrote:
    >>> Steve has received your email and passed this to the constituency office.  In order for this to be progressed we will need to have your home address in line with parliamentary protocol.
    >>>
    >>> Yours sincerely
    >>>
    >>> Maureen Byrne
    >>> Office of Steve Rotheram MP
    >>> 0151 525 5025
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> —–Original Message—–
    >>> From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    >>> Sent: 14 November 2013 08:18
    >>> To: ROTHERAM, Steve
    >>> Cc: post
    >>> Subject: Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd:
    >>> Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >>>
    >>> Hi,
    >>>
    >>> when I send an e-mail to the e-mail address which is on the IPCC website, then this e-mail address doesn’t work, (see forwarded e-mail).
    >>>
    >>> Could you contact the Parliamentary Ombudsman please.
    >>>
    >>> And hear if they can get the IPCC to put a working e-mail address on their website, (so that I can send some police-complaints to the IPCC).
    >>>
    >>> Thanks in advance for any help!
    >>>
    >>> Yours sincerely,
    >>>
    >>> Erik Ribsskog
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
    >>> From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    >>> Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:36 PM
    >>> Subject: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status
    >>> Notification (Failure)
    >>> To: post <post@spesialenheten.no>
    >>> Cc: COMMCEN <COMMCEN@merseyside.police.uk>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Hei,
    >>>
    >>> jeg sender denne til dere, for e-post-adressen som står på nettstedet til den engelske spesialenheten, (IPCC), virker ikke, virker det som for meg.
    >>>
    >>> Erik Ribsskog
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
    >>> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon@googlemail.com>
    >>> Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:25 PM
    >>> Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >>> To: eribsskog@gmail.com
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
    >>>
    >>>      enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk
    >>>
    >>> Technical details of permanent failure:
    >>> Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain ipcc.gsi.gov.uk by cluster.gsi.messagelabs.com. [194.106.220.3].
    >>>
    >>> The error that the other server returned was:
    >>> 553-Sorry, your email address eribsskog@gmail.com has been
    >>> 553-blacklisted. Please see the FAQs section on spam at
    >>> 553-http://www.messagelabs.com/support/ for more
    >>> 553 information. (#5.7.1)
    >>>
    >>> —– Original message —–
    >>>
    >>> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
    >>>         d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
    >>>         h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type;
    >>>         bh=nPZSbZji+/pJLScI4mJwRGPoGVdT5nlaF6ll58e2Kmk=;
    >>>         b=U8KfBaTGbB/63//aMD4U0koRuO+VWj86+xOZsGyUwLMixw/SWisbz/L7o3VKvC5W/m
    >>>          SB9yGPoj/K8RyPkvjAz2OtzZO+ZLScB+eadLtXcsXkfL6GRQJF5WnxYcVLCNqW6zEqIP
    >>>          UjDhLre5HwYDpImcH6PUhV5mWw19Ihx7PN3K/+NBEeTDh/nzgpZ2S6PA7iZOCfGRB+xp
    >>>          Ois16iO2oePldlAP56ufhH9RREhlJ39dwNyHHQWGENxgSNOZIjFJMS/pJD6I910FCMGx
    >>>          jPBpmam7d4+mNko1xCxaLZFmv+nllyifjZ2JmMq8oH2YP4nDgx+dk5r1VVaWDHgZcfb6
    >>>          wp5g==
    >>> MIME-Version: 1.0
    >>> X-Received: by 10.66.191.198 with SMTP id
    >>> ha6mr26217796pac.72.1384284355721;
    >>>  Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:25:55 -0800 (PST)
    >>> Received: by 10.70.72.99 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:25:55 -0800
    >>> (PST)
    >>> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 19:25:55 +0000
    >>> Message-ID:
    >>> <CAGtfns7DNL6T03rLp6630xHEqzwaYjgdrbsdYv_=BnWG-Fy2YA@mail.gmail.com>
    >>> Subject: Update/Fwd: LOG 1507 02/11/13…….Harassment from Hungry
    >>> House –
    >>>  17991 – [Not Protectively Marked]
    >>> From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    >>> To: COMMCEN <COMMCEN@merseyside.police.uk>
    >>> Cc: “!enquiries” <enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk>
    >>> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=047d7b67597a4c9a2304eaffd1fd
    >>>
    >>> Hi,
    >>>
    >>> I was at Walton Lane police-station right now regarding four cases.
    >>>
    >>> I spoke with constable 3174.
    >>>
    >>> He ridiculed me and said the reason I had gotten 70 dodgy phone-calls and a lot of e-mails and 14 fast food-delivery guys on my door was because I had ticked a box on the internet.
    >>>
    >>> But I have a degree in IT and don’t think there is a box like that.
    >>>
    >>> I think some criminals are terrorising me.
    >>>
    >>> Regarding the strangler today at around 3PM at Heymarket.
    >>>
    >>> I attach a photograph of him.
    >>>
    >>> But the photo wasn’t that fine, due to that I wasn’t myself after the attack.
    >>>
    >>> Regarding the neighbour, (in 9 Keith Court), I think he’s a criminal.
    >>>
    >>> Since I overheard him treateing a guy in his 20’s some months ago that he would scrape up his car, (with his house-key), after they’d had an argument, (since the young Keith Court-guy said he would have hit the old guy in number nine if he had done a thing like that on the street).
    >>>
    >>> Also the guy in number 9 walks around in his underwear.
    >>>
    >>> He has been going on my door, with two, (and sometimes three), clocks, which he has asked me if were set right, (and sometimes he did this in his under-wear).
    >>>
    >>> He started the community care system, (since these are converted flats for the elderly), this spring, and I went out to see what was wrong with him.
    >>>
    >>> He said he needed to go to hospital, but really the problem was his door that had been smashed in the day before, it seemed.
    >>>
    >>> So I called the police, and a lock-smith fixed the door, later that day.
    >>>
    >>> Just to sumarise a bit.
    >>>
    >>> I’ve told this neighbour I want him to leave me alone.
    >>>
    >>> (Since he’s a criminal and I noticed his flat smelt very bad, when I called the police for him, when he had started the alarm for the elderly).
    >>>
    >>> But yesteday he stood outside my door and said ‘Good Morning’ when I was going to Tesco.
    >>>
    >>> I don’t think thats to leave me alone.
    >>>
    >>> So I told him, (loudly, to warn the neighbours etc.), to leave me alone.
    >>>
    >>> So I hope he leaves me alone now.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> —– Message truncated —–
    >>>
    >>> ________________________________
    >>>
    >>> UK Parliament Disclaimer:
    >>> This e-mail is confidential to the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Any unauthorised use, disclosure, or copying is not permitted. This e-mail has been checked for viruses, but no liability is accepted for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail.
    >>
    >> ________________________________
    >>
    >> UK Parliament Disclaimer:
    >> This e-mail is confidential to the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Any unauthorised use, disclosure, or copying is not permitted. This e-mail has been checked for viruses, but no liability is accepted for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail.
    >
    > ________________________________
    >
    > UK Parliament Disclaimer:
    > This e-mail is confidential to the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Any unauthorised use, disclosure, or copying is not permitted. This e-mail has been checked for viruses, but no liability is accepted for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail.

  • Jeg sendte enda en e-post til min lokale MP


    Gmail – Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)






    Gmail

    Erik Ribsskog
    <eribsskog@gmail.com>






    Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)






    Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>


    Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:31 PM



    To:
    “BYRNE, Maureen” <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk>






    Hi, the problem is that when I send e-mails to the IPCC, then that e-mail
    address doesn’t work. I’d like to hear this from the IPCC. I don’t like the webforms, since I think the citizens has more control
    on the communication if they have a copy of the correspondence, in
    their e-mail-programme. Best regards, Erik Ribsskog PS. Then I guess it should be a special department, within the Merseyside
    Police, that I should send the IPCC-case to? PS 2. I’ll also try to find more about the other case I mentioned in the
    previous e-mail.


    On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:00 PM, BYRNE, Maureen
    <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk> wrote:
    > Thank you for your address.  It is unclear from your email what you are asking Steve Rotheram MP to do on your behalf. If you have a complaint against the police you would in the first instance have to make this to the police force concerned for them to investigate.  If you remain dissatisfied with their response you can of course take this to the Independent Police Complaints Commission which can investigate, as this is not the role of the Parliamentary Ombuds.  The IPCC website gives details of how to make a complaint and has the required form for you to complete, which does not require your Member of Parliament to sign.
    >
    > Yours sincerely
    >
    > Maureen Byrne
    > Office of Steve Rotheram MP
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > —–Original Message—–
    > From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    > Sent: 14 November 2013 11:47
    > To: BYRNE, Maureen
    > Subject: Re: Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > thank you for your e-mail!
    >
    > My home address should be:
    >
    > 10 Keith Court
    > Keith Avenue
    > Liverpool
    > L4 5XJ
    >
    > (I’ve earlier been in touch with you regarding some cases in July, (to do with the Jobcentre), and which were resolved, if I remember it right.
    >
    > And there was also a case before that, I think, regarding the ‘telephone ombudsman’, (or something like that), which I can’t remember now it was resolved.
    >
    > Just something I thought about now, as an update).
    >
    > Thanks very much for the help with this!
    >
    > Best regards,
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog
    >
    >
    > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, BYRNE, Maureen <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk> wrote:
    >> Steve has received your email and passed this to the constituency office.  In order for this to be progressed we will need to have your home address in line with parliamentary protocol.
    >>
    >> Yours sincerely
    >>
    >> Maureen Byrne
    >> Office of Steve Rotheram MP
    >> 0151 525 5025
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> —–Original Message—–
    >> From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    >> Sent: 14 November 2013 08:18
    >> To: ROTHERAM, Steve
    >> Cc: post
    >> Subject: Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd:
    >> Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >>
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> when I send an e-mail to the e-mail address which is on the IPCC website, then this e-mail address doesn’t work, (see forwarded e-mail).
    >>
    >> Could you contact the Parliamentary Ombudsman please.
    >>
    >> And hear if they can get the IPCC to put a working e-mail address on their website, (so that I can send some police-complaints to the IPCC).
    >>
    >> Thanks in advance for any help!
    >>
    >> Yours sincerely,
    >>
    >> Erik Ribsskog
    >>
    >>
    >> ———- Forwarded message ———-
    >> From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    >> Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:36 PM
    >> Subject: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status
    >> Notification (Failure)
    >> To: post <post@spesialenheten.no>
    >> Cc: COMMCEN <COMMCEN@merseyside.police.uk>
    >>
    >>
    >> Hei,
    >>
    >> jeg sender denne til dere, for e-post-adressen som står på nettstedet til den engelske spesialenheten, (IPCC), virker ikke, virker det som for meg.
    >>
    >> Erik Ribsskog
    >>
    >>
    >> ———- Forwarded message ———-
    >> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon@googlemail.com>
    >> Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:25 PM
    >> Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >> To: eribsskog@gmail.com
    >>
    >>
    >> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
    >>
    >>      enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk
    >>
    >> Technical details of permanent failure:
    >> Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain ipcc.gsi.gov.uk by cluster.gsi.messagelabs.com. [194.106.220.3].
    >>
    >> The error that the other server returned was:
    >> 553-Sorry, your email address eribsskog@gmail.com has been
    >> 553-blacklisted. Please see the FAQs section on spam at
    >> 553-http://www.messagelabs.com/support/ for more
    >> 553 information. (#5.7.1)
    >>
    >> —– Original message —–
    >>
    >> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
    >>         d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
    >>         h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type;
    >>         bh=nPZSbZji+/pJLScI4mJwRGPoGVdT5nlaF6ll58e2Kmk=;
    >>         b=U8KfBaTGbB/63//aMD4U0koRuO+VWj86+xOZsGyUwLMixw/SWisbz/L7o3VKvC5W/m
    >>          SB9yGPoj/K8RyPkvjAz2OtzZO+ZLScB+eadLtXcsXkfL6GRQJF5WnxYcVLCNqW6zEqIP
    >>          UjDhLre5HwYDpImcH6PUhV5mWw19Ihx7PN3K/+NBEeTDh/nzgpZ2S6PA7iZOCfGRB+xp
    >>          Ois16iO2oePldlAP56ufhH9RREhlJ39dwNyHHQWGENxgSNOZIjFJMS/pJD6I910FCMGx
    >>          jPBpmam7d4+mNko1xCxaLZFmv+nllyifjZ2JmMq8oH2YP4nDgx+dk5r1VVaWDHgZcfb6
    >>          wp5g==
    >> MIME-Version: 1.0
    >> X-Received: by 10.66.191.198 with SMTP id
    >> ha6mr26217796pac.72.1384284355721;
    >>  Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:25:55 -0800 (PST)
    >> Received: by 10.70.72.99 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:25:55 -0800
    >> (PST)
    >> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 19:25:55 +0000
    >> Message-ID:
    >> <CAGtfns7DNL6T03rLp6630xHEqzwaYjgdrbsdYv_=BnWG-Fy2YA@mail.gmail.com>
    >> Subject: Update/Fwd: LOG 1507 02/11/13…….Harassment from Hungry
    >> House –
    >>  17991 – [Not Protectively Marked]
    >> From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    >> To: COMMCEN <COMMCEN@merseyside.police.uk>
    >> Cc: “!enquiries” <enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk>
    >> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=047d7b67597a4c9a2304eaffd1fd
    >>
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> I was at Walton Lane police-station right now regarding four cases.
    >>
    >> I spoke with constable 3174.
    >>
    >> He ridiculed me and said the reason I had gotten 70 dodgy phone-calls and a lot of e-mails and 14 fast food-delivery guys on my door was because I had ticked a box on the internet.
    >>
    >> But I have a degree in IT and don’t think there is a box like that.
    >>
    >> I think some criminals are terrorising me.
    >>
    >> Regarding the strangler today at around 3PM at Heymarket.
    >>
    >> I attach a photograph of him.
    >>
    >> But the photo wasn’t that fine, due to that I wasn’t myself after the attack.
    >>
    >> Regarding the neighbour, (in 9 Keith Court), I think he’s a criminal.
    >>
    >> Since I overheard him treateing a guy in his 20’s some months ago that he would scrape up his car, (with his house-key), after they’d had an argument, (since the young Keith Court-guy said he would have hit the old guy in number nine if he had done a thing like that on the street).
    >>
    >> Also the guy in number 9 walks around in his underwear.
    >>
    >> He has been going on my door, with two, (and sometimes three), clocks, which he has asked me if were set right, (and sometimes he did this in his under-wear).
    >>
    >> He started the community care system, (since these are converted flats for the elderly), this spring, and I went out to see what was wrong with him.
    >>
    >> He said he needed to go to hospital, but really the problem was his door that had been smashed in the day before, it seemed.
    >>
    >> So I called the police, and a lock-smith fixed the door, later that day.
    >>
    >> Just to sumarise a bit.
    >>
    >> I’ve told this neighbour I want him to leave me alone.
    >>
    >> (Since he’s a criminal and I noticed his flat smelt very bad, when I called the police for him, when he had started the alarm for the elderly).
    >>
    >> But yesteday he stood outside my door and said ‘Good Morning’ when I was going to Tesco.
    >>
    >> I don’t think thats to leave me alone.
    >>
    >> So I told him, (loudly, to warn the neighbours etc.), to leave me alone.
    >>
    >> So I hope he leaves me alone now.
    >>
    >>
    >> —– Message truncated —–
    >>
    >> ________________________________
    >>
    >> UK Parliament Disclaimer:
    >> This e-mail is confidential to the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Any unauthorised use, disclosure, or copying is not permitted. This e-mail has been checked for viruses, but no liability is accepted for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail.
    >
    > ________________________________
    >
    > UK Parliament Disclaimer:
    > This e-mail is confidential to the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Any unauthorised use, disclosure, or copying is not permitted. This e-mail has been checked for viruses, but no liability is accepted for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail.

  • Mer om spoofing


    Gmail – SV: Jobbsøknad






    Gmail

    Erik Ribsskog
    <eribsskog@gmail.com>






    SV: Jobbsøknad






    Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>


    Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:03 PM



    To:
    Finn Egil Holm <feh@frp.no>






    Hei, dette har ikke jeg sendt dere, dette er noe spoofing fra noen som har
    lest min blogg. Jeg hadde en kamerat på Bergeråsen som prøvde å dra meg med på
    åpningen av Fremskrittspartiet i Svelvik, på 80-tallet. Nemlig Ulf Havmo. Men han hadde prøvd å drepe meg, (må man vel si), et par år før det igjen. Så det var jeg ikke interessert i, (for å si det sånn). Jeg syntes at FRP virka litt harry, og syntes at Høyre virka mer stuerent. Så jeg var med Magne Winnem på et par møter, hos Unge Høyre, i Høyres
    Hus, i Stortingsgata, på begynnelsen av 90-tallet. Så det med Høyre stemmer. Det var Jan Tore Sanner som brukte meg som rådgiver. (Sammen med Winnem). Men jeg syntes det ble litt rart, at folk som Winnem og Havmo,
    absolutt skulle ra meg med, inn i politikken. Så jeg gadd ikke å være med på mer enn et eller to møter, med Unge Høyre. Sanner ville at jeg skulle rydde opp i det norske lovverket og. Og det hadde jeg ikke peiling på hvordan jeg skulle gjøre. Og jeg var rådgiver for Unge Høyre sitt skolevalg-program, i 1991. Den første dagen jeg var i Høyres Hus. Og den andre dagen, så skulle jeg liksom rydde opp i Norges lover. Jeg fikk for mye ansvar for tidlig, syntes jeg. Og jeg ville ikke være i en klikk med Winnem, i Høyre. Jeg satsa på karriære i næringslivet, egentlig. Det med Høyre var bare som noe sosialt, som Winnem presenterte det som, for meg. Noe sånt. Og jeg fikk aldri noe i posten, (giroer for eksempel), fra Unge Høyre/Høyre. Og jeg har kontaktet mange i Høyre, for å få attest, for
    rådgivingsarbeid og noe webdesign, (på Høyre sine web-sider), siden
    Winnem dro med en diskett med Høyre sine websider hjem til meg, (for
    at vi skulle fikse noen buger, enda jeg ikke hadde lært webdesign, men
    kun hadde fått meg internett), i 1996 eller 1997, vel. Men Høyre/Unge Høyre/Sanner vil ikke sende kursbevis/attest for
    rådgivingsarbeid og webdesign, (for Winnem og jeg fant noen buger vel,
    selv om vi ikke egentlig skjønte HTML, så bra). Så jeg er lei av politikk, må jeg si. Så det her er jeg ikke interessert i, dessverre. Det er nok noen av mine blogglesere, som prøver å tulle med meg. Mvh. Erik Ribsskog PS. Har overhørt at jeg var forfulgt av ‘mafian’, i Oslo, (på jobb), i 2003. Får ikke mine rettigheter fra politiet, og har flykta til England. Hvis dere hos Fremkrittspartiet har/får justisministeren, så kan dere
    kanskje klage litt på Kripos, som ikke vil etterforske dette, når jeg
    ringte de, (flere ganger), sommeren/høsten 2005, ihvertfall.
    2013/11/14 Finn Egil Holm <feh@frp.no>:
    > Hei, viser henvendelse under.
    >
    > Vi har ingen ledige stillinger i FrPs Hovedorganisasjon pr.dato.
    >
    >
    > Med vennlig hilsen
    > Fremskrittspartiet
    >
    > Finn Egil Holm
    > Generalsekretær og stabssjef
    > Tlf. 23 13 54 15 / 415 22 222
    >
    > Karl Johans gate 25
    > 0159 OSLO
    >
    > Denne e-posten er kun ment for spesifisert mottaker. Dersom e-posten ved en feiltagelse skulle havne hos andre gjøres det oppmerksom på at innholdet er av privat karakter. De bes i så fall returnere til avsender med opplysning om feilforsendelsen, samt makulere mottatt e-post og alle vedlegg. Enhver bruk av informasjonen i sendingen er i et slikt tilfelle ulovlig.
    >
    > —–Opprinnelig melding—–
    > Fra: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    > Sendt: 6. november 2013 20:35
    > Til: Marianne Nordli; Finn Egil Holm
    > Kopi: FrP Epost; Øistein Lid
    > Emne: Jobbsøknad
    >
    > Hei,
    >
    > jeg søker jobb som markedssjef i Fremskrittspartiet.
    >
    > Jeg har 10 års erfaring som leder i Rimi, og jeg har drevet egen godtebutikk i flere år.
    >
    > Jeg var spesialrådgiver, for Høyre, i 1991, men er nå utmeldt derfra.
    >
    > Mvh
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog

  • Jeg sendte enda en e-post til min lokale MP


    Gmail – Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)






    Gmail

    Erik Ribsskog
    <eribsskog@gmail.com>






    Steve Rotheram MP : Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)






    Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>


    Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:46 AM



    To:
    “BYRNE, Maureen” <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk>






    Hi, thank you for your e-mail! My home address should be: 10 Keith Court
    Keith Avenue
    Liverpool
    L4 5XJ (I’ve earlier been in touch with you regarding some cases in July, (to
    do with the Jobcentre), and which were resolved, if I remember it
    right. And there was also a case before that, I think, regarding the
    ‘telephone ombudsman’, (or something like that), which I can’t
    remember now it was resolved. Just something I thought about now, as an update). Thanks very much for the help with this! Best regards, Erik Ribsskog


    On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, BYRNE, Maureen
    <maureen.byrne@parliament.uk> wrote:
    > Steve has received your email and passed this to the constituency office.  In order for this to be progressed we will need to have your home address in line with parliamentary protocol.
    >
    > Yours sincerely
    >
    > Maureen Byrne
    > Office of Steve Rotheram MP
    > 0151 525 5025
    >
    >
    >
    > —–Original Message—–
    > From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    > Sent: 14 November 2013 08:18
    > To: ROTHERAM, Steve
    > Cc: post
    > Subject: Problems with IPCC/Fwd: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > when I send an e-mail to the e-mail address which is on the IPCC website, then this e-mail address doesn’t work, (see forwarded e-mail).
    >
    > Could you contact the Parliamentary Ombudsman please.
    >
    > And hear if they can get the IPCC to put a working e-mail address on their website, (so that I can send some police-complaints to the IPCC).
    >
    > Thanks in advance for any help!
    >
    > Yours sincerely,
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog
    >
    >
    > ———- Forwarded message ———-
    > From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    > Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:36 PM
    > Subject: Problemer med politiet i England/Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    > To: post <post@spesialenheten.no>
    > Cc: COMMCEN <COMMCEN@merseyside.police.uk>
    >
    >
    > Hei,
    >
    > jeg sender denne til dere, for e-post-adressen som står på nettstedet til den engelske spesialenheten, (IPCC), virker ikke, virker det som for meg.
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog
    >
    >
    > ———- Forwarded message ———-
    > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon@googlemail.com>
    > Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:25 PM
    > Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
    > To: eribsskog@gmail.com
    >
    >
    > Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
    >
    >      enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk
    >
    > Technical details of permanent failure:
    > Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain ipcc.gsi.gov.uk by cluster.gsi.messagelabs.com. [194.106.220.3].
    >
    > The error that the other server returned was:
    > 553-Sorry, your email address eribsskog@gmail.com has been 553-blacklisted. Please see the FAQs section on spam at 553-http://www.messagelabs.com/support/ for more
    > 553 information. (#5.7.1)
    >
    > —– Original message —–
    >
    > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
    >         d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
    >         h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type;
    >         bh=nPZSbZji+/pJLScI4mJwRGPoGVdT5nlaF6ll58e2Kmk=;
    >         b=U8KfBaTGbB/63//aMD4U0koRuO+VWj86+xOZsGyUwLMixw/SWisbz/L7o3VKvC5W/m
    >          SB9yGPoj/K8RyPkvjAz2OtzZO+ZLScB+eadLtXcsXkfL6GRQJF5WnxYcVLCNqW6zEqIP
    >          UjDhLre5HwYDpImcH6PUhV5mWw19Ihx7PN3K/+NBEeTDh/nzgpZ2S6PA7iZOCfGRB+xp
    >          Ois16iO2oePldlAP56ufhH9RREhlJ39dwNyHHQWGENxgSNOZIjFJMS/pJD6I910FCMGx
    >          jPBpmam7d4+mNko1xCxaLZFmv+nllyifjZ2JmMq8oH2YP4nDgx+dk5r1VVaWDHgZcfb6
    >          wp5g==
    > MIME-Version: 1.0
    > X-Received: by 10.66.191.198 with SMTP id ha6mr26217796pac.72.1384284355721;
    >  Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:25:55 -0800 (PST)
    > Received: by 10.70.72.99 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:25:55 -0800 (PST)
    > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 19:25:55 +0000
    > Message-ID: <CAGtfns7DNL6T03rLp6630xHEqzwaYjgdrbsdYv_=BnWG-Fy2YA@mail.gmail.com>
    > Subject: Update/Fwd: LOG 1507 02/11/13…….Harassment from Hungry House –
    >  17991 – [Not Protectively Marked]
    > From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    > To: COMMCEN <COMMCEN@merseyside.police.uk>
    > Cc: “!enquiries” <enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk>
    > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=047d7b67597a4c9a2304eaffd1fd
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I was at Walton Lane police-station right now regarding four cases.
    >
    > I spoke with constable 3174.
    >
    > He ridiculed me and said the reason I had gotten 70 dodgy phone-calls and a lot of e-mails and 14 fast food-delivery guys on my door was because I had ticked a box on the internet.
    >
    > But I have a degree in IT and don’t think there is a box like that.
    >
    > I think some criminals are terrorising me.
    >
    > Regarding the strangler today at around 3PM at Heymarket.
    >
    > I attach a photograph of him.
    >
    > But the photo wasn’t that fine, due to that I wasn’t myself after the attack.
    >
    > Regarding the neighbour, (in 9 Keith Court), I think he’s a criminal.
    >
    > Since I overheard him treateing a guy in his 20’s some months ago that he would scrape up his car, (with his house-key), after they’d had an argument, (since the young Keith Court-guy said he would have hit the old guy in number nine if he had done a thing like that on the street).
    >
    > Also the guy in number 9 walks around in his underwear.
    >
    > He has been going on my door, with two, (and sometimes three), clocks, which he has asked me if were set right, (and sometimes he did this in his under-wear).
    >
    > He started the community care system, (since these are converted flats for the elderly), this spring, and I went out to see what was wrong with him.
    >
    > He said he needed to go to hospital, but really the problem was his door that had been smashed in the day before, it seemed.
    >
    > So I called the police, and a lock-smith fixed the door, later that day.
    >
    > Just to sumarise a bit.
    >
    > I’ve told this neighbour I want him to leave me alone.
    >
    > (Since he’s a criminal and I noticed his flat smelt very bad, when I called the police for him, when he had started the alarm for the elderly).
    >
    > But yesteday he stood outside my door and said ‘Good Morning’ when I was going to Tesco.
    >
    > I don’t think thats to leave me alone.
    >
    > So I told him, (loudly, to warn the neighbours etc.), to leave me alone.
    >
    > So I hope he leaves me alone now.
    >
    >
    > —– Message truncated —–
    >
    > ________________________________
    >
    > UK Parliament Disclaimer:
    > This e-mail is confidential to the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Any unauthorised use, disclosure, or copying is not permitted. This e-mail has been checked for viruses, but no liability is accepted for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail.

  • Mer fra Facebook

    • Samtale startet 14. juli 2010
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Hi,

      is it you from the sports-center, and the parties at the Forge?
      And the trip to Sunderland Museum?
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • 14. juli 2010
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Hi again,
      I remembered you dissapeared from the American party, in the flat where Stephanie (Madonna) lived, or at least was a hostess at the party.
      Because I met you, and you got back to the Forge in a taxi.
      Even if I spotted you at the party, earlier that night.
      I heard some girls talked to you about that you should have a shag, but not with me, because I was to drunk.
      Something like this.
      Where were you that night, if it’s ok to ask?
      I then got a bit bored, and got some vodka, and went back to the party.
      Something like that.
      And then some strange people turned up there, and the Stephanie girl dragged me to another party.
      Something like that.
      Do I remember it right you think?
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • 11. oktober
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Hi Dominika,
      Magnar sent me Friend Request-suggestion, for you.
      Was you on the Sunday-trip, to Sunderland Museum, (organised by Brusk I think), in September/October, in 2004?
      Just wondering.
      What was the name of the German Computing-woman who moved with Nelufer to Marr House.
      Was it Malene?
      Magnar say that you work as a sports-comentator for a TV-station in Poland.
      I remember seing you at the Sports Centre, at the City Campus, in Sunderland, (if I’m not mistaking).
      Also, at the American party, I saw you, (in the middle of the night, when I left the party), in a taxi, returning to the Forge.
      Had you been having an ‘adventure’
      Just wondering.
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • onsdag
    • Dominika Teske
      Dominika Teske

      One is certain, we could met only in 2004 (I was in Sunderland only to January 2005), but I’m not able to tell exactly when and where. It was too many years ago.
      Nowadays, I can only say that it was a really good time.
      It’s true, I’m working in a TV-station in Poland, now in a sports department as a reporter and
      coordinator.
      How about you?
      Best regards,
      Dominika
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Hi Dominika,
      thanks for the reply!
      I still live in the UK, now in Liverpool.
      Close to Goodison Park, (I don’t know if you remember that I support Everton, in English football).
      I try to build up a web-shop, named www.posegodt.net and I also write books.
      But I don’t earn that much at moment, so I also go to the Jobcentre and apply for jobs.
      I don’t have any pictures from Sunderland.
      If you by coincident find any pictures of the people from ‘my’ flat, (or the neighbour-flat, where Brusk lived), then please tell me.
      I’m also trying to remeber what Iwo, Julian and Gabriella’s last-names where, (because I can’t find them on Facebook).
      Neighter Nelufer.
      And was it Katrin Fischer who moved with Nelufer from ‘my’ flat, to Marr House?
      Do you remember?
      I remember meeting you at the Sports Centre.
      You where always polite and nice and sometimes smiling.
      Not bad.
      What was the Spanish brunette’s name who also went to the Sports Centre.
      Do you remember?
      Did you use to play volleyball, (I think I saw on the internet).
      I’ve been swiming a bit and have been working out in a nice gym in Liverpool named Adelphi, (in a hotel).
      But I have a football-injury, in my knee, so I have to take it a bit easy.
      Also, Liverpool is a bit dangerous place to live sometimes, compared to Norway.
      Yesterday someone tried to strangle me, in Liverpool City Centre, when I was going to buy a new pair of jeans, etc.
      So I miss Sunderland a bit sometimes.
      Weren’t you also at the Sunderland Museum and Winter-garden, with Brusk & Co, in 2004?
      I was thrown out of my flat in Liverpool City Centre, in 2011, (due to that I didn’t get a letter, from a court, in the post).
      Then I had asked the University of Sunderland if I could study history there, some weeks earlier.
      So I went to Sunderland, and I was allowed to live in Clanny House, (not far from the Forge), for some days.
      But then they threw me out like they were nazis, from Hitler-Germany, (after about a week, or so).
      So I had to live in a hostel, in Sunderland, named Azalea Lodge, which was ‘very though and very friendly’, like they said.
      I then started writing books, about my life in Norway, etc.
      When I’m finished writing them, I’ll perhaps translate them to English.
      (I also write about the Forge, etc).
      In 2011, the Forge had gotten new owners.
      And a bar-house, inbetween Jobling House and Marr House.
      And the gate was like a prison, (or something), I think it looked like a bit.
      Thanks for the messages!
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      I noticed that you came back in a taxi, at the ‘American Party’, in Marr House.
      Had you been having an ‘adventure’
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • Dominika Teske
      Dominika Teske

      As I mentioned, I don’t remember so many details and unfortunately names of our friends. Maybe because I lived only three weeks in The Forge.
      I have some photos on CDs. In the free time I will try to send you some of them.
      Now, I am at work.
      I think it’s great idea to build the web-shop, it looks nice.
    • Dominika Teske
      Dominika Teske

      I know that some people are on a fb
      Maybe you know them
      Szvacsek Gabriella
      Irini Spyropoulou
      Marten Kollakowski
      άλκηστη ζευγώλη – this is greek girl Alkisti
      Steph M Adonna
      (stephani )
      Juan Murillo
      Hauke Bestmann
      Aurélie Petitet
      Matt Bik
      Paulina Nassalska
      Glory Benacka
      Christoforos Syranidis
      Johannes Preuß
      Kamal Suave
      thats all
      Marlene Wieland
      Brûsk Kurdo
      You wrote me: “I noticed that you came back in a taxi, at the ‘American Party’, in Marr House. Had you been having an ‘adventure’ ” – but I dont know what are you talking about, maybe it wasnt me.
      Erik I have to come back to my work, I’ll write to you soon
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Hi,
      ok, I’ll try to work more with the design of the web-shop, (I have to take courses, since in IT it’s always something new).
      And I want to fill the web-shop up with more goods.
      And then I can start to market it a bit on Facebook, etc.
      And I also have an English version, (www.bagsofsweets.net), that I have to change the design for, like the Norwegian one.
      But I have some work with my books, untill Christmas.
      I know Gabriella.
      And I met a Greek girl at the Greek party.
      The Spanish woman from the Sports Centre had a name with ‘X’ in, I think.
      Also Leyla, (her last-name started on K), was often in ‘our’ flat.
      Dörte Gensow is on Facebook.
      So is Federica Mauro.
      And Rosario is on my friend-list.
      I can send you friend-request-suggestion for her, (like I sent to Magnar).
      Also my sister Pia Ribsskog.
      And her friend Siv.
      And their young sons Daniel Ribsskog and Dennis.
      They visited me, for Christmas and New Year, at the Forge.
      So I didn’t get to do any work on my research topics, on the Final Year Project, (in Java-programming etc).
      Since the boys only wanted to sit in my room, in front on my desktop computer, and play online games and paint drawings in the Microsoft-programme ‘Paint’.
      It’s fun that you work in TV I think.
      I don’t think I know anyone else who works in TV.
      Not bad.
      And sports-programmes are my favorite, on TV.
      But I don’t understand Polish.
      I reported Brusk to Facebook since he sent me some political messages, (in a message like this), about the war in Kurdistan, I think.
      I’m not interested in propaganda in messages.
      Maybe on the Wall, but not in messages, like private messages are a wall.
      I don’t have contact with my sister now, but she is on Facebook, if you want to chat with someone in Norway.
      Gabriella gave me some cakes, before she went back to Bulgaria?, (her mother was there, and made the pita-breads, I think).
      For some reason.
      Did you live in Clanny House?
      I remember you were on Federica and Rosarios party, in ‘our’ flat.
      I was at a party, in Iwo’s room.
      But I thought I couldn’t sit there, all night, when Federica and Rosario, (from my flat), had a party.
      So I went from Iwos small party to Federicas big party, I remember.
      And I kissed with a German blonde girl, (Dagmar?), at my room.
      Do you remember her?
      I saw a taxi in the middle of the night, and you, as I remember it.
      I also remember seing you on that party, (American Party, in Marr House), and that you talked with some other women about having sex.
      (But not with me because I was to drunk).
      Something like that
      I took a photograph outside my kitchen window now, where one can see Goodison Park.
      (In case you are interested in football).
      I can hear the roar from the stadium when Everton scores.
      And I sometimes goes to games, (when I can afford to).
      And they sometimes have free games, and I’ve also been at a ‘sight-seeing’ at Goodison, two times, and I have a fotball-blogg, where I have some pictures from Goodison, etc:
      I want to go more to night-clubs, football-games and Burger King, etc.
      But I have to sell more, from my web-shop and Amazon-page.
      So I can almost only afford to go to free games and buy food at the supermarket now.
      Thanks again for sending all the messages!
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Hi again,
      I’ve been on TV in Norway actually, (a couple of years ago), with my books, blog and web-shop:
      But the programme-leaders were ‘idiots’ and told a lot of lies, (I have to say), about my books and my blog and my web-shop.
      This was in a so called humour-programme, that noone understood, I think.
      I have complained to NRK, but they don’t want to tell the throught.
      They don’t even reply now.
      (Just something I thought about since Magnar told me you worked in TV
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • I dag
    • Dominika Teske
      Dominika Teske

      Now I am pretty sure that I am not a person who you saw. I have never been on American Party in Marr House.
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Hi,
      thats how I remember it at least.
      But maybe you had so many adventures that you forget some of them
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • Dominika Teske
      Dominika Teske

      I do not remember names but I remember what I did.
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Ok,
      at the Forge people were so laid back and carefree, I think.
      But now, almost ten years later, people seem to be much more serious, I think.
      That’s a bit sad, I think.
      Hope you have a fine day!
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • Dominika Teske
      Dominika Teske

      But as I told You I spent there only three weeks
      so it is impossible to be on so many parties especially that U spent time with my friends
      almost 24/24
      U = I
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Ok,
      I remember you from Rosario and Federicas party and from the American party in Marr House.
      I don’t know where you lived when these parties were.
      I was at a Norwegian party in a pub, but I didn’t live in the pub.
      You said you had some funny pictures from the Forge that you wanted to send me.
      It’s no hurry, it would just be fun to have some photographs.
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • Dominika Teske
      Dominika Teske

      (I did a mistake)
      I have some photos
      but I dont know if u are on them
      but I dont care I can send u them
      Sorry I am at work I can not be on fb
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Ok,
      It’s no hurry, or that important.
      It would just be fun.
      I can try to ask some other people like Rosario, etc.
      I sent you Friend Request-suggestion for her.
      That would be cool
      I’ll send you photos as well, if I get some from some other the Forge-people, etc.
      Or maybe I have some on my blog.
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Also,
      I worked on a farm in Norway, later in 2005.
      And I cleaned almost the whole of my uncles womans farm.
      So I have a bit claim for this farm, I think.
      (Since I also don’t get my inheritance from my grandmother).
      Where I grew up, in Sand, in Norway, a lot of Polish people used to go there, in the summer-holidays, (before the end of the cold war), in old Skodas or Ladas I think.
      Perhaps you know someone who could pick cherrys at that farm, in some years time, (if I get the farm, in south-eastern Norway), and grow cherrys there
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
      PS.
      My steph-cousin Andrea from that farm is now studying in Bournemouth, but she doesn’t reply to my Facebook-messages:
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      (The Polish people in Sand, in the 70’s and 80’s where working with picking strawberries, by the way).
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      This woman, (Siri Rognli Olsen), I used to have adventures with in Norway.
      She also is dominant.
      But I don’t like S & M sex, and then she say she also like vanila, like perverts call normal sex.
      She’s also been on TV, in a comedy show, with comedian Henrik Elvestad, (in the supermarket-uniform here):
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
  • Enda mer fra Facebook

    • Samtale startet 14. juli 2010
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Hi,

      is it you from the sports-center, and the parties at the Forge?
      And the trip to Sunderland Museum?
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • 14. juli 2010
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Hi again,
      I remembered you dissapeared from the American party, in the flat where Stephanie (Madonna) lived, or at least was a hostess at the party.
      Because I met you, and you got back to the Forge in a taxi.
      Even if I spotted you at the party, earlier that night.
      I heard some girls talked to you about that you should have a shag, but not with me, because I was to drunk.
      Something like this.
      Where were you that night, if it’s ok to ask?
      I then got a bit bored, and got some vodka, and went back to the party.
      Something like that.
      And then some strange people turned up there, and the Stephanie girl dragged me to another party.
      Something like that.
      Do I remember it right you think?
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • 11. oktober
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Hi Dominika,
      Magnar sent me Friend Request-suggestion, for you.
      Was you on the Sunday-trip, to Sunderland Museum, (organised by Brusk I think), in September/October, in 2004?
      Just wondering.
      What was the name of the German Computing-woman who moved with Nelufer to Marr House.
      Was it Malene?
      Magnar say that you work as a sports-comentator for a TV-station in Poland.
      I remember seing you at the Sports Centre, at the City Campus, in Sunderland, (if I’m not mistaking).
      Also, at the American party, I saw you, (in the middle of the night, when I left the party), in a taxi, returning to the Forge.
      Had you been having an ‘adventure’
      Just wondering.
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • onsdag
    • Dominika Teske
      Dominika Teske

      One is certain, we could met only in 2004 (I was in Sunderland only to January 2005), but I’m not able to tell exactly when and where. It was too many years ago.
      Nowadays, I can only say that it was a really good time.
      It’s true, I’m working in a TV-station in Poland, now in a sports department as a reporter and
      coordinator.
      How about you?
      Best regards,
      Dominika
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Hi Dominika,
      thanks for the reply!
      I still live in the UK, now in Liverpool.
      Close to Goodison Park, (I don’t know if you remember that I support Everton, in English football).
      I try to build up a web-shop, named www.posegodt.net and I also write books.
      But I don’t earn that much at moment, so I also go to the Jobcentre and apply for jobs.
      I don’t have any pictures from Sunderland.
      If you by coincident find any pictures of the people from ‘my’ flat, (or the neighbour-flat, where Brusk lived), then please tell me.
      I’m also trying to remeber what Iwo, Julian and Gabriella’s last-names where, (because I can’t find them on Facebook).
      Neighter Nelufer.
      And was it Katrin Fischer who moved with Nelufer from ‘my’ flat, to Marr House?
      Do you remember?
      I remember meeting you at the Sports Centre.
      You where always polite and nice and sometimes smiling.
      Not bad.
      What was the Spanish brunette’s name who also went to the Sports Centre.
      Do you remember?
      Did you use to play volleyball, (I think I saw on the internet).
      I’ve been swiming a bit and have been working out in a nice gym in Liverpool named Adelphi, (in a hotel).
      But I have a football-injury, in my knee, so I have to take it a bit easy.
      Also, Liverpool is a bit dangerous place to live sometimes, compared to Norway.
      Yesterday someone tried to strangle me, in Liverpool City Centre, when I was going to buy a new pair of jeans, etc.
      So I miss Sunderland a bit sometimes.
      Weren’t you also at the Sunderland Museum and Winter-garden, with Brusk & Co, in 2004?
      I was thrown out of my flat in Liverpool City Centre, in 2011, (due to that I didn’t get a letter, from a court, in the post).
      Then I had asked the University of Sunderland if I could study history there, some weeks earlier.
      So I went to Sunderland, and I was allowed to live in Clanny House, (not far from the Forge), for some days.
      But then they threw me out like they were nazis, from Hitler-Germany, (after about a week, or so).
      So I had to live in a hostel, in Sunderland, named Azalea Lodge, which was ‘very though and very friendly’, like they said.
      I then started writing books, about my life in Norway, etc.
      When I’m finished writing them, I’ll perhaps translate them to English.
      (I also write about the Forge, etc).
      In 2011, the Forge had gotten new owners.
      And a bar-house, inbetween Jobling House and Marr House.
      And the gate was like a prison, (or something), I think it looked like a bit.
      Thanks for the messages!
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      I noticed that you came back in a taxi, at the ‘American Party’, in Marr House.
      Had you been having an ‘adventure’
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • Dominika Teske
      Dominika Teske

      As I mentioned, I don’t remember so many details and unfortunately names of our friends. Maybe because I lived only three weeks in The Forge.
      I have some photos on CDs. In the free time I will try to send you some of them.
      Now, I am at work.
      I think it’s great idea to build the web-shop, it looks nice.
    • Dominika Teske
      Dominika Teske

      I know that some people are on a fb
      Maybe you know them
      Szvacsek Gabriella
      Irini Spyropoulou
      Marten Kollakowski
      άλκηστη ζευγώλη – this is greek girl Alkisti
      Steph M Adonna
      (stephani )
      Juan Murillo
      Hauke Bestmann
      Aurélie Petitet
      Matt Bik
      Paulina Nassalska
      Glory Benacka
      Christoforos Syranidis
      Johannes Preuß
      Kamal Suave
      thats all
      Marlene Wieland
      Brûsk Kurdo
      You wrote me: “I noticed that you came back in a taxi, at the ‘American Party’, in Marr House. Had you been having an ‘adventure’ ” – but I dont know what are you talking about, maybe it wasnt me.
      Erik I have to come back to my work, I’ll write to you soon
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Hi,
      ok, I’ll try to work more with the design of the web-shop, (I have to take courses, since in IT it’s always something new).
      And I want to fill the web-shop up with more goods.
      And then I can start to market it a bit on Facebook, etc.
      And I also have an English version, (www.bagsofsweets.net), that I have to change the design for, like the Norwegian one.
      But I have some work with my books, untill Christmas.
      I know Gabriella.
      And I met a Greek girl at the Greek party.
      The Spanish woman from the Sports Centre had a name with ‘X’ in, I think.
      Also Leyla, (her last-name started on K), was often in ‘our’ flat.
      Dörte Gensow is on Facebook.
      So is Federica Mauro.
      And Rosario is on my friend-list.
      I can send you friend-request-suggestion for her, (like I sent to Magnar).
      Also my sister Pia Ribsskog.
      And her friend Siv.
      And their young sons Daniel Ribsskog and Dennis.
      They visited me, for Christmas and New Year, at the Forge.
      So I didn’t get to do any work on my research topics, on the Final Year Project, (in Java-programming etc).
      Since the boys only wanted to sit in my room, in front on my desktop computer, and play online games and paint drawings in the Microsoft-programme ‘Paint’.
      It’s fun that you work in TV I think.
      I don’t think I know anyone else who works in TV.
      Not bad.
      And sports-programmes are my favorite, on TV.
      But I don’t understand Polish.
      I reported Brusk to Facebook since he sent me some political messages, (in a message like this), about the war in Kurdistan, I think.
      I’m not interested in propaganda in messages.
      Maybe on the Wall, but not in messages, like private messages are a wall.
      I don’t have contact with my sister now, but she is on Facebook, if you want to chat with someone in Norway.
      Gabriella gave me some cakes, before she went back to Bulgaria?, (her mother was there, and made the pita-breads, I think).
      For some reason.
      Did you live in Clanny House?
      I remember you were on Federica and Rosarios party, in ‘our’ flat.
      I was at a party, in Iwo’s room.
      But I thought I couldn’t sit there, all night, when Federica and Rosario, (from my flat), had a party.
      So I went from Iwos small party to Federicas big party, I remember.
      And I kissed with a German blonde girl, (Dagmar?), at my room.
      Do you remember her?
      I saw a taxi in the middle of the night, and you, as I remember it.
      I also remember seing you on that party, (American Party, in Marr House), and that you talked with some other women about having sex.
      (But not with me because I was to drunk).
      Something like that
      I took a photograph outside my kitchen window now, where one can see Goodison Park.
      (In case you are interested in football).
      I can hear the roar from the stadium when Everton scores.
      And I sometimes goes to games, (when I can afford to).
      And they sometimes have free games, and I’ve also been at a ‘sight-seeing’ at Goodison, two times, and I have a fotball-blogg, where I have some pictures from Goodison, etc:
      I want to go more to night-clubs, football-games and Burger King, etc.
      But I have to sell more, from my web-shop and Amazon-page.
      So I can almost only afford to go to free games and buy food at the supermarket now.
      Thanks again for sending all the messages!
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Hi again,
      I’ve been on TV in Norway actually, (a couple of years ago), with my books, blog and web-shop:
      But the programme-leaders were ‘idiots’ and told a lot of lies, (I have to say), about my books and my blog and my web-shop.
      This was in a so called humour-programme, that noone understood, I think.
      I have complained to NRK, but they don’t want to tell the throught.
      They don’t even reply now.
      (Just something I thought about since Magnar told me you worked in TV
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • I dag
    • Dominika Teske
      Dominika Teske

      Now I am pretty sure that I am not a person who you saw. I have never been on American Party in Marr House.
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Hi,
      thats how I remember it at least.
      But maybe you had so many adventures that you forget some of them
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • Dominika Teske
      Dominika Teske

      I do not remember names but I remember what I did.
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Ok,
      at the Forge people were so laid back and carefree, I think.
      But now, almost ten years later, people seem to be much more serious, I think.
      That’s a bit sad, I think.
      Hope you have a fine day!
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • Dominika Teske
      Dominika Teske

      But as I told You I spent there only three weeks
      so it is impossible to be on so many parties especially that U spent time with my friends
      almost 24/24
      U = I
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Ok,
      I remember you from Rosario and Federicas party and from the American party in Marr House.
      I don’t know where you lived when these parties were.
      I was at a Norwegian party in a pub, but I didn’t live in the pub.
      You said you had some funny pictures from the Forge that you wanted to send me.
      It’s no hurry, it would just be fun to have some photographs.
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • Dominika Teske
      Dominika Teske

      (I did a mistake)
      I have some photos
      but I dont know if u are on them
      but I dont care I can send u them
      Sorry I am at work I can not be on fb
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Ok,
      It’s no hurry, or that important.
      It would just be fun.
      I can try to ask some other people like Rosario, etc.
      I sent you Friend Request-suggestion for her.
      That would be cool
      I’ll send you photos as well, if I get some from some other the Forge-people, etc.
      Or maybe I have some on my blog.
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      Also,
      I worked on a farm in Norway, later in 2005.
      And I cleaned almost the whole of my uncles womans farm.
      So I have a bit claim for this farm, I think.
      (Since I also don’t get my inheritance from my grandmother).
      Where I grew up, in Sand, in Norway, a lot of Polish people used to go there, in the summer-holidays, (before the end of the cold war), in old Skodas or Ladas I think.
      Perhaps you know someone who could pick cherrys at that farm, in some years time, (if I get the farm, in south-eastern Norway), and grow cherrys there
      Best regards,
      Erik Ribsskog
      PS.
      My steph-cousin Andrea from that farm is now studying in Bournemouth, but she doesn’t reply to my Facebook-messages:
    • Erik Ribsskog
      Erik Ribsskog

      (The Polish people in Sand, in the 70’s and 80’s where working with picking strawberries, by the way).