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    From: eribsskog@gmail.com Erik Ribsskog
    To: support@blogger.com Blogger Help
    Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:12:13 +0100
    Subject: Re: [#209091530] Fwd: Blogger DMCA Complaint received

    Hi,

    thank you very much for your answer!

    I relly understood that you couldn’t give me legal advice, I just thought
    that maybe
    you knew about some organisation etc. who could maybe give advice on this.

    I should probably have made it more clear in the e-mail, that it was this I
    meant.

    Since there isn’t always that easy, for different reasons, to get help from
    an attorney.

    But that’s my problem I guess.

    But what I was hoping that you could maybe answer me about, was if there was
    a
    time-limit for filing the DMCA counter-complaint.

    So this was the main reason for my enquiery, but I should maybe have
    clearified this.

    So that’s why I’m trying to e-mail you again, in case that point got a bit
    lost in my last
    e-mail.

    (Also if you know what the next procedure usually is in an DMCA
    complaint-process,
    that would be fine, but I’m also going to search more on the internet
    regarding this,
    so this is only if you have the time and oppertunity to answer).

    So I hope that you have the chance to answer me about this, and thanks in
    advance for
    the reply!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On 10/26/07, Blogger Help wrote:
    >
    > Hello Erik,
    >
    > We are in receipt of your latest email. Blogger is not in a position to
    > provide legal guidance or counsel to the legal issue at hand. We recommend
    > that you seek an attorney to properly answer your questions and provide
    > you with legal advice.
    >
    > Sincerely,
    > The Blogger Team
    >
    >
    > Original Message Follows:
    > ————————
    > From: “Erik Ribsskog”
    > Subject: Fwd: [#209091530] Blogger DMCA Complaint received
    > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 03:39:27 +0100
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I can’t see that I’ve recieved an answer to this e-mail yet.
    >
    > I’m not so used with dealing with cases like this, and also not used to
    > deal
    > with
    > to copyright laws.
    >
    > But I’m trying to send a new e-mail anyway, since I’m not sure where to
    > ask
    > for
    > advice regarding this.
    >
    > The reason I have put the files in the deleted entry on the blog, is
    > because
    > I’m
    > trying to ‘whistleblow’ regarding whats going on in the Arvato Ltd. firm,
    > and the
    > Microsoft Scandinavian Product Activation there.
    >
    > This is about an (organised) harassment at work case.
    >
    > And it’s conected with a crime-case in the company, (which I have got
    > confirmed
    > about from the Norwegian embassy in London), and this most certianly, as
    > far
    > as
    > I can understadn, must be an orginised crime/mafia/mob-case.
    >
    > And that’s why I think it’s important that I try to deal with this in an
    > as
    > proper way
    > as possible.
    >
    > So, even if I’m a Norwegian living in Britain, I still would want to
    > pursue
    > this matter
    > with a DMCA counter-complaint.
    >
    > I’m in the process of contacting law-firms in Britain, to get help with
    > the
    > (organised)
    > harassment at work issues.
    >
    > And I think this DMCA issue propably should be included with that case.
    >
    > Also, I was wondering if not the purpose of ‘whistleblowing’, should be
    > looked at as
    > more relevant than copyright issues, (even if it also seems a bit strange
    > to
    > me
    > that this should be a copyright issue, the files removed, where files like
    > summarys
    > from employee meetings at Arvato Ltd, and shift-plans, and also the entry
    > containing
    > only my CV, was deleted from the blog).
    >
    > So that’s why I’m trying to write to you again.
    >
    > I was wondering if you knew about how the rules are surrounding the
    > ‘whistleblower’
    > issues, in regards to the DMCA law?
    >
    > Because it could be that the British law-firms need a bit of time to deal
    > with this,
    > (from earlier experience with companies like these), so I was also
    > wondering
    >
    > how long time I have got to file a DMCA counter-complaint.
    >
    > So I’m sorry that I’m sending you so many e-mails about this!
    >
    > I should have prepared more on the last e-mails I sent maybe, so I
    > appologise for
    > this.
    >
    > But I hope that you have the chance to have a look at this anyway!
    >
    > Thanks in advance for the help!
    >
    > Yours sincerely,
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ———- Forwarded message ———-
    > From: Erik Ribsskog
    > Date: Oct 24, 2007 1:22 AM
    > Subject: Re: [#209091530] Blogger DMCA Complaint received
    > To: Blogger Help
    >
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > thank you very much for your reply again!
    >
    > By the way, I’ve checked on the internet, and it said that DMCA, was a US
    > copyright law.
    >
    > So is the fax-number American then?
    >
    > And is it Arvato in the US or in the UK, who has sent the complaint?
    >
    > I’m sorry I haven’t lived that long in the UK, so I got a bit cunfused
    > here.
    >
    > Thanks in advance for the help!
    >
    > Yours sincerely,
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog
    >
    >
    > On 10/24/07, Blogger Help wrote:
    > >
    > > Hello Erik,
    > >
    > > You can file a DMCA counter-complaint as soon as you’d like, and we will
    > > forward it on to Arvato Services to give them notice of the
    > > counter-complaint. Please fax your counter-complaint with all of the
    > > necessary information to (650) 618-2680.
    > >
    > > Thank you for your understanding and cooperation in this regard.
    > >
    > > Sincerely,
    > > The Blogger Team
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Original Message Follows:
    > > ————————
    > > From: “Erik Ribsskog”
    > > Subject: Re: [#209091530] Blogger DMCA Complaint received
    > > Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:40:11 +0100
    > >
    > > Ok,
    > >
    > > thank you very much for your reply!
    > >
    > > I’ve tryed to search a bit on ‘DMCA complaints’, and I was wondering, if
    > I
    > > want
    > > to file a DMCA Counter Notice, should I then wait until the link in your
    > > e-mail,
    > > with the compaint, is active.
    > >
    > > Or should file one right away you think?
    > >
    > > Thanks very much for the help, and sorry if the correspondence is busy!
    > >
    > > Yours sincerely,
    > >
    > > Erik Ribsskog
    > >
    > >
    > > On 10/23/07, Blogger Help wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Hello Erik,
    > > >
    > > > We received a DMCA complaint from Arvato Services Limited regarding
    > the
    > > > content that we have removed based on their allegations of copyright
    > > > infringement. The DMCA complaint that we received will be posted on
    > the
    > > > link we sent you ( http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=4463)
    > > > within the next couple of weeks.
    > > >
    > > > Sincerely,
    > > > The Blogger Team
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Original Message Follows:
    > > > ————————
    > > > From: “Erik Ribsskog”
    > > > Subject: Re: [#209091530] Blogger DMCA Complaint received
    > > > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:21:27 +0100
    > > >
    > > > Hi,
    > > >
    > > > these are my personal files from work.
    > > >
    > > > I don’t see how there could be any copyright issues with others, since
    > > > these
    > > > are my
    > > > personal work-files.
    > > >
    > > > Who is it that has got you to delete the entries then, and shouldn’t
    > you
    > > > have checked
    > > > it with me first, in case it was public files to do with my work,
    > (like
    > > it
    > > > is)?
    > > >
    > > > Thanks for the fast reply by the way.
    > > >
    > > > Yours sincerely,
    > > >
    > > > Erik Ribsskog
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > On 10/23/07, Blogger Help wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > Hello Erik,
    > > > >
    > > > > We apologize for the mix up. Blogger has been notified, according to
    > > the
    > > > > terms of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), that some of
    > > your
    > > > > images allegedly infringe upon the copyrights of others. The URLs of
    > > the
    > > > > allegedly infringing images may be found at the end of this message.
    > > > >
    > > > > The notice that we received, with any personally identifying
    > > information
    > > > > removed, may be found at the following link:
    > > > > http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=4463
    > > > >
    > > > > Please note that it may take several weeks for the notice to be
    > posted
    > >
    > > > on
    > > > > the above page.
    > > > >
    > > > > The DMCA is a United States copyright law that provides guidelines
    > for
    > > > > online service provider liability in case of copyright infringement.
    > > We
    > > > > are in the process of removing from our servers the images that
    > > > allegedly
    > > > > infringe upon the copyrights of others. If we did not do so, we
    > would
    > > be
    > > > > subject to a claim of copyright infringement, regardless of its
    > > merits.
    > > > > See http://www.educause.edu/Browse/645?PARENT_ID=254 for more
    > > > information
    > > > > about the DMCA, and see http://www.google.com/dmca.html for the
    > > process
    > > > > that Blogger requires in order to make a DMCA complaint.
    > > > >
    > > > > Blogger can reinstate these images upon receipt of a counter
    > > > notification
    > > > > pursuant to sections 512(g)(2) and 3) of the DMCA. For more
    > > information
    > > > > about the requirements of a counter notification and a link to a
    > > sample
    > > > > counter notification, see http://www.google.com/dmca.html#counter.
    > > > >
    > > > > Please note that repeated violations to our Terms of Service may
    > > result
    > > > in
    > > > > further remedial action taken against your Blogger account. If you
    > > have
    > > > > legal questions about this notification, you should retain your own
    > > > legal
    > > > > counsel. If you have any other questions about this notification,
    > > please
    > > > > let us know.
    > > > >
    > > > > Sincerely,
    > > > > The Blogger Team
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Affected URLs:
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-8.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-9.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-15.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-16.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-17.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-18.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-19.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-20.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-21.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-22.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-23.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-24.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-25.html
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Original Message Follows:
    > > > > ————————
    > > > > From: “Erik Ribsskog”
    > > > > Subject: Re: [#209091530] Blogger DMCA Complaint received
    > > > > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:41:26 +0100
    > > > >
    > > > > Hi,
    > > > >
    > > > > thank you for your e-mail.
    > > > >
    > > > > I was wondering if there has been a misunderstanding somewhere,
    > > because
    > > > I
    > > > > have not
    > > > > sent any ‘infringement complaint’ regarding any of the mentioned
    > > URL’s.
    > > > >
    > > > > I was just wondering if there had a mix-up or a misunderstanding
    > > > > somewhere.
    > > > >
    > > > > So I hope very much that you have the time to have a look at this.
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanks in advance!
    > > > >
    > > > > Yours sincerely,
    > > > >
    > > > > Erik Ribsskog
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > On 10/22/07, Blogger Help wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Hello,
    > > > > >
    > > > > > In accordance with the DMCA, we have completed processing your
    > > > > > infringement complaint regarding the following URLs:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-8.html
    > > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-9.html
    > > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-15.html
    > > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-16.html
    > > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-17.html
    > > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-18.html
    > > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-19.html
    > > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-20.html
    > > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-21.html
    > > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-22.html
    > > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-23.html
    > > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-24.html
    > > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-25.html
    > > > > > We appreciate your patience as we work to remove all of the images
    > > > from
    > > > > > our servers. Please note that all cached versions should expire
    > > within
    > > > a
    > > > > > week.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Please let us know if we can assist you further.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Sincerely,
    > > > > > The Blogger Team
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
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    > >
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  • Untitled Post

    From: eribsskog@gmail.com Erik Ribsskog
    To: kristjan.molstad@aftenposten.no kristjan.molstad@aftenposten.no
    Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:37:22 +0100
    Subject: Re: VS: Debattforum

    Hei,

    ja jeg fikk en autoreply angående at du hadde ferie ja, så jeg kontaktet
    nettutgaven@aftenposten.no,
    siden du hadde ferie som sagt.

    Men jeg fikk ikke noe svar fra de, og heller ikke etter at jeg sendte en
    påminnelse.

    Men jeg forstår det systemet med tips osv.

    Men det rådet jeg fikk, var å ta kontakt med en journalist da.

    Så jeg vet ikke om det blir det samme å sende til tips@aftenposten.no?

    Altså, da vet man vel ikke hvem e-poster havner hos, og jeg kan vel risikere
    det samme som
    skjedde når jeg sendte til nettutgaven@aftenposten.no, nemlig at jeg ikke
    får svar?

    Eller hvordan fungerer dette egentlig?

    Jeg er ikke så vant til å sende e-poster til aviser og journalister osv., så
    unnskyldt hvis jeg spør
    mange dumme spørsmål i forbindelse med dette.

    Men jeg håper at du har muligheten til å svare alikevel!

    På forhånd takk for hjelp!

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    On 10/26/07, kristjan.molstad@aftenposten.no <
    kristjan.molstad@aftenposten.no> wrote:
    >
    > Hei igjen,
    >
    >
    >
    > Jeg har dessverre vært på ferie, derfor har du ikke fått svar fra meg.
    >
    >
    >
    > Vi tar gjerne imot tips på tips@aftenposten.no
    >
    >
    >
    > *Vennlig hilsen,*
    >
    >
    > *Kristjan Molstad*
    >
    >
    > *Journalist / Debatt- og kommentaransvarlig*
    >
    > *Postboks 1*
    >
    > *N-0051 Oslo*
    >
    >
    >
    > *Tlf. (+47) 22 86 41 47 *
    >
    > *Mob.(+47) 41 567 357 *
    >
    > *Fax (+47) 22 86 41 30*
    > ——————————
    >
    >
    > ———- Forwarded message ———-
    > From: *Erik Ribsskog*
    > Date: Oct 7, 2007 9:22 PM
    > Subject: Fwd: Debattforum
    > To: nettutgaven@aftenposten.no
    >
    >
    >
    > Hei,
    >
    >
    >
    > jeg prøvde å sende denne e-posten tidligere i dag, men han som leder
    > debatt-forumet er på ferie, men jeg
    >
    > fikk en auto-reply, hvor det stod nevnt den e-post adressen som jeg sender
    > til nå, jeg tenkte jeg kunne
    >
    > prøve å sende e-posten til den adressen, siden lederen for debatt-forumet,
    > er borte frem til 15. oktober.
    >
    >
    >
    > Håper dette er i orden!
    >
    >
    >
    > Mvh.
    >
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog
    >
    >
    >
    > ———- Forwarded message ———-
    > From: *Erik Ribsskog* < eribsskog@gmail.com>
    > Date: Oct 7, 2007 8:32 PM
    > Subject: Re: Debattforum
    > To: “kristjan.molstad@aftenposten.no ”
    >
    >
    >
    > Det var veldig bra service, takk for hjelpen!
    >
    >
    >
    > Jeg lurte også på en ting.
    >
    >
    >
    > Jeg fått i råd på et dansk debatt-forum (debat.bt.dk), om å kontakte en
    > journalist, angående et problem jeg har hatt med
    >
    > trenering fra politidirektoratet, (og også kripos, spesialenheten,
    > norge.no/forsynings- og adminstrasjonsdepartementet, med flere).
    >
    >
    >
    > Så jeg bare lurte på om du tilfeldigvis viste om hvem man burde kontakte
    > da?
    >
    >
    >
    > Jeg kan sende kopi av e-poster osv. hvis det er interessant, og jeg har
    > også en del liggende på en blogg.
    >
    >
    >
    > Så på forhånd takk hvis dere har tid til å se på dette!
    >
    >
    >
    > Mvh.
    >
    >
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On 10/4/07, *kristjan.molstad@aftenposten.no *> > wrote:
    >
    > Det er det selvsagt.
    >
    >
    >
    > Nå skal du kunne logge deg på som cons – passordet er snoc .
    >
    >
    >
    > Du kan (og bør) endre passordet når du er logget på.
    >
    >
    >
    > *Vennlig hilsen,*
    >
    >
    > *Kristjan Molstad*
    >
    >
    > *Journalist / Debatt- og kommentaransvarlig*
    >
    > *Postboks 1*
    >
    > *N-0051 Oslo*
    >
    >
    >
    > *Tlf. (+47) 22 86 41 47 *
    >
    > *Mob.(+47) 41 567 357 *
    >
    > *Fax (+47) 22 86 41 30*
    > ——————————
    >
    > *Fra:* Erik Ribsskog [mailto: eribsskog@gmail.com]
    > *Sendt:* 4. oktober 2007 09:46
    > *Til:* Molstad, Kristjan
    > *Emne:* Re: Debattforum
    >
    >
    >
    > Hei,
    >
    >
    >
    > det høres bra ut!
    >
    >
    >
    > Jeg var litt dårlig til å forklare:
    >
    >
    >
    > Jeg søkte på brukernavnet nå, og da kom jeg på at jeg hadde jo brukernavn
    > hos dere før: (cons).
    >
    >
    >
    > Men det er det med mobil-systemet, som egentlig er problemet. (Jeg har
    > vært borti problemet før,
    >
    > på et annet forum).
    >
    >
    >
    > Så jeg lurte på, om dere tror det hadde vært mulig, om jeg kunne forsette
    > med det samme brukernavnet,
    >
    > som jeg hadde før?
    >
    >
    >
    > Fordi jeg har ikke koden til det brukernavnet her i England, og det er vel
    > mulig at man må validere
    >
    > brukernavnet hver 6. eller 12. måned, er det ikke noe sånt da?
    >
    >
    >
    > Men så da tenkte jeg at det hadde kanskje vært like greit å eventuelt bare
    > fortsette med det gamle
    >
    > brukernavet, hvis det er mulig, istedet for å begynne med et nytt
    > brukernavn.
    >
    >
    >
    > Håper dette er i orden!
    >
    >
    > Mvh.
    >
    >
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog
    >
    >
    > On 10/4/07, *kristjan.molstad@aftenposten.no* > > wrote:
    >
    > God morgen,
    >
    >
    >
    > Dette ordner vi. Hvilket brukernavn ønsker du?
    >
    >
    >
    > Sjekk gjerne på siden
    >
    >
    > http://debatt.aftenposten.no/search.php?Group=&P=&Start=0&Username=&xP=&xUsername=&xGroup
    > =
    >
    >
    >
    > at ingen allerede har det brukernavnet du ønsker deg. Send meg så en
    > epost, så ordner jeg resten.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > *Vennlig hilsen,*
    >
    >
    > *Kristjan Molstad*
    >
    >
    > *Journalist / Debatt- og kommentaransvarlig*
    >
    > *Postboks 1*
    >
    > *N-0051 Oslo*
    >
    >
    >
    > *Tlf. (+47) 22 86 41 47 *
    >
    > *Mob.(+47) 41 567 357 *
    >
    > *Fax (+47) 22 86 41 30*
    > ——————————
    >
    > *Fra:* Erik Ribsskog [mailto: eribsskog@gmail.com]
    > *Lagt inn:* 3. oktober 2007 17:28
    > *Lagt inn i:* debattleder@aftenposten.no
    > *Diskusjon:* Debattforum
    > *Emne:* Debattforum
    >
    >
    > Hei,
    >
    >
    >
    > jeg bor i England, og jeg så på websiden deres, at det man skulle
    >
    > sende e-post angående registrering hvis man bor i utlandet.
    >
    >
    >
    > Så jeg lurte på hvordan jeg skulle gå frem for å opprette brukernavn.
    >
    >
    >
    > Fordi jeg er på utkikk etter et seriøst forum å diskutere på, så jeg
    >
    > tenkte jeg kanskje skulle prøve å registrere meg på Aftenposten
    >
    > sitt forum.
    >
    >
    >
    > Så jeg lurte på hvordan jeg skulle gå frem i så fall, og jeg lurte
    >
    > også på hvilke opplysninger det er jeg trenger å oppgi.
    >
    >
    >
    > Håper dere har tid til å svare på dette!
    >
    >
    >
    > Mvh.
    >
    >
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >

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    From: ole.erik.almlid@aftenposten.no
    To: eribsskog@gmail.com
    Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:38:53 +0100
    Subject: SV: Debattforum

    Dette beklager jeg – og derfor skal jeg se til at du får svar fra rette vedkommende så raskt det lar seg gjøre.

    Ole Erik Almlid

    Redaktør i Aftenposten Multimedia

    ________________________________

    Fra: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    Sendt: 26. oktober 2007 02:56
    Til: Almlid, Ole Erik
    Emne: Fwd: Debattforum

    Hei,

    jeg bare lurte på om det ikke er meningen at man skal få svar hvis man kontakter nettutgaven

    av Aftenposten?

    Jeg abonnerte på Aftenposten i mange år jeg, når jeg bodde i Oslo, så jeg synes det er litt

    dårlig å ikke få svar.

    Men man bør kanskje ikke ta det for sikkert at man skal få svar?

    På forhånd takk for hjelp!

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog
    Date: Oct 7, 2007 9:22 PM
    Subject: Fwd: Debattforum
    To: nettutgaven@aftenposten.no

    Hei,

    jeg prøvde å sende denne e-posten tidligere i dag, men han som leder debatt-forumet er på ferie, men jeg

    fikk en auto-reply, hvor det stod nevnt den e-post adressen som jeg sender til nå, jeg tenkte jeg kunne

    prøve å sende e-posten til den adressen, siden lederen for debatt-forumet, er borte frem til 15. oktober.

    Håper dette er i orden!

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog < eribsskog@gmail.com >
    Date: Oct 7, 2007 8:32 PM
    Subject: Re: Debattforum
    To: “kristjan.molstad@aftenposten.no ”

    Det var veldig bra service, takk for hjelpen!

    Jeg lurte også på en ting.

    Jeg fått i råd på et dansk debatt-forum (debat.bt.dk ), om å kontakte en journalist, angående et problem jeg har hatt med

    trenering fra politidirektoratet, (og også kripos, spesialenheten, norge.no/forsynings- og adminstrasjonsdepartementet, med flere).

    Så jeg bare lurte på om du tilfeldigvis viste om hvem man burde kontakte da?

    Jeg kan sende kopi av e-poster osv. hvis det er interessant, og jeg har også en del liggende på en blogg.

    Så på forhånd takk hvis dere har tid til å se på dette!

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    On 10/4/07, kristjan.molstad@aftenposten.no wrote:

    Det er det selvsagt.

    Nå skal du kunne logge deg på som cons – passordet er snoc .

    Du kan (og bør) endre passordet når du er logget på.

    Vennlig hilsen,

    Kristjan Molstad

    Journalist / Debatt- og kommentaransvarlig

    Postboks 1

    N-0051 Oslo

    Tlf. (+47) 22 86 41 47

    Mob.(+47) 41 567 357

    Fax (+47) 22 86 41 30

    ________________________________

    Fra: Erik Ribsskog [mailto: eribsskog@gmail.com]
    Sendt: 4. oktober 2007 09:46
    Til: Molstad, Kristjan
    Emne: Re: Debattforum

    Hei,

    det høres bra ut!

    Jeg var litt dårlig til å forklare:

    Jeg søkte på brukernavnet nå, og da kom jeg på at jeg hadde jo brukernavn hos dere før: (cons).

    Men det er det med mobil-systemet, som egentlig er problemet. (Jeg har vært borti problemet før,

    på et annet forum).

    Så jeg lurte på, om dere tror det hadde vært mulig, om jeg kunne forsette med det samme brukernavnet,

    som jeg hadde før?

    Fordi jeg har ikke koden til det brukernavnet her i England, og det er vel mulig at man må validere

    brukernavnet hver 6. eller 12. måned, er det ikke noe sånt da?

    Men så da tenkte jeg at det hadde kanskje vært like greit å eventuelt bare fortsette med det gamle

    brukernavet, hvis det er mulig, istedet for å begynne med et nytt brukernavn.

    Håper dette er i orden!

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    On 10/4/07, kristjan.molstad@aftenposten.no wrote:

    God morgen,

    Dette ordner vi. Hvilket brukernavn ønsker du?

    Sjekk gjerne på siden

    http://debatt.aftenposten.no/search.php?Group=&P=&Start=0&Username=&xP=&xUsername=&xGroup=

    at ingen allerede har det brukernavnet du ønsker deg. Send meg så en epost, så ordner jeg resten.

    Vennlig hilsen,

    Kristjan Molstad

    Journalist / Debatt- og kommentaransvarlig

    Postboks 1

    N-0051 Oslo

    Tlf. (+47) 22 86 41 47

    Mob.(+47) 41 567 357

    Fax (+47) 22 86 41 30

    ________________________________

    Fra: Erik Ribsskog [mailto: eribsskog@gmail.com]
    Lagt inn: 3. oktober 2007 17:28
    Lagt inn i: debattleder@aftenposten.no
    Diskusjon: Debattforum
    Emne: Debattforum

    Hei,

    jeg bor i England, og jeg så på websiden deres, at det man skulle

    sende e-post angående registrering hvis man bor i utlandet.

    Så jeg lurte på hvordan jeg skulle gå frem for å opprette brukernavn.

    Fordi jeg er på utkikk etter et seriøst forum å diskutere på, så jeg

    tenkte jeg kanskje skulle prøve å registrere meg på Aftenposten

    sitt forum.

    Så jeg lurte på hvordan jeg skulle gå frem i så fall, og jeg lurte

    også på hvilke opplysninger det er jeg trenger å oppgi.

    Håper dere har tid til å svare på dette!

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

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    From: eribsskog@gmail.com Erik Ribsskog
    To: support@blogger.com
    Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 03:39:27 +0100
    Subject: Fwd: [#209091530] Blogger DMCA Complaint received

    Hi,

    I can’t see that I’ve recieved an answer to this e-mail yet.

    I’m not so used with dealing with cases like this, and also not used to deal
    with
    to copyright laws.

    But I’m trying to send a new e-mail anyway, since I’m not sure where to ask
    for
    advice regarding this.

    The reason I have put the files in the deleted entry on the blog, is because
    I’m
    trying to ‘whistleblow’ regarding whats going on in the Arvato Ltd. firm,
    and the
    Microsoft Scandinavian Product Activation there.

    This is about an (organised) harassment at work case.

    And it’s conected with a crime-case in the company, (which I have got
    confirmed
    about from the Norwegian embassy in London), and this most certianly, as far
    as
    I can understadn, must be an orginised crime/mafia/mob-case.

    And that’s why I think it’s important that I try to deal with this in an as
    proper way
    as possible.

    So, even if I’m a Norwegian living in Britain, I still would want to pursue
    this matter
    with a DMCA counter-complaint.

    I’m in the process of contacting law-firms in Britain, to get help with the
    (organised)
    harassment at work issues.

    And I think this DMCA issue propably should be included with that case.

    Also, I was wondering if not the purpose of ‘whistleblowing’, should be
    looked at as
    more relevant than copyright issues, (even if it also seems a bit strange to
    me
    that this should be a copyright issue, the files removed, where files like
    summarys
    from employee meetings at Arvato Ltd, and shift-plans, and also the entry
    containing
    only my CV, was deleted from the blog).

    So that’s why I’m trying to write to you again.

    I was wondering if you knew about how the rules are surrounding the
    ‘whistleblower’
    issues, in regards to the DMCA law?

    Because it could be that the British law-firms need a bit of time to deal
    with this,
    (from earlier experience with companies like these), so I was also wondering

    how long time I have got to file a DMCA counter-complaint.

    So I’m sorry that I’m sending you so many e-mails about this!

    I should have prepared more on the last e-mails I sent maybe, so I
    appologise for
    this.

    But I hope that you have the chance to have a look at this anyway!

    Thanks in advance for the help!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog
    Date: Oct 24, 2007 1:22 AM
    Subject: Re: [#209091530] Blogger DMCA Complaint received
    To: Blogger Help

    Hi,

    thank you very much for your reply again!

    By the way, I’ve checked on the internet, and it said that DMCA, was a US
    copyright law.

    So is the fax-number American then?

    And is it Arvato in the US or in the UK, who has sent the complaint?

    I’m sorry I haven’t lived that long in the UK, so I got a bit cunfused here.

    Thanks in advance for the help!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On 10/24/07, Blogger Help wrote:
    >
    > Hello Erik,
    >
    > You can file a DMCA counter-complaint as soon as you’d like, and we will
    > forward it on to Arvato Services to give them notice of the
    > counter-complaint. Please fax your counter-complaint with all of the
    > necessary information to (650) 618-2680.
    >
    > Thank you for your understanding and cooperation in this regard.
    >
    > Sincerely,
    > The Blogger Team
    >
    >
    >
    > Original Message Follows:
    > ————————
    > From: “Erik Ribsskog”
    > Subject: Re: [#209091530] Blogger DMCA Complaint received
    > Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:40:11 +0100
    >
    > Ok,
    >
    > thank you very much for your reply!
    >
    > I’ve tryed to search a bit on ‘DMCA complaints’, and I was wondering, if I
    > want
    > to file a DMCA Counter Notice, should I then wait until the link in your
    > e-mail,
    > with the compaint, is active.
    >
    > Or should file one right away you think?
    >
    > Thanks very much for the help, and sorry if the correspondence is busy!
    >
    > Yours sincerely,
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog
    >
    >
    > On 10/23/07, Blogger Help wrote:
    > >
    > > Hello Erik,
    > >
    > > We received a DMCA complaint from Arvato Services Limited regarding the
    > > content that we have removed based on their allegations of copyright
    > > infringement. The DMCA complaint that we received will be posted on the
    > > link we sent you ( http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=4463)
    > > within the next couple of weeks.
    > >
    > > Sincerely,
    > > The Blogger Team
    > >
    > >
    > > Original Message Follows:
    > > ————————
    > > From: “Erik Ribsskog”
    > > Subject: Re: [#209091530] Blogger DMCA Complaint received
    > > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:21:27 +0100
    > >
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > these are my personal files from work.
    > >
    > > I don’t see how there could be any copyright issues with others, since
    > > these
    > > are my
    > > personal work-files.
    > >
    > > Who is it that has got you to delete the entries then, and shouldn’t you
    > > have checked
    > > it with me first, in case it was public files to do with my work, (like
    > it
    > > is)?
    > >
    > > Thanks for the fast reply by the way.
    > >
    > > Yours sincerely,
    > >
    > > Erik Ribsskog
    > >
    > >
    > > On 10/23/07, Blogger Help wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Hello Erik,
    > > >
    > > > We apologize for the mix up. Blogger has been notified, according to
    > the
    > > > terms of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), that some of
    > your
    > > > images allegedly infringe upon the copyrights of others. The URLs of
    > the
    > > > allegedly infringing images may be found at the end of this message.
    > > >
    > > > The notice that we received, with any personally identifying
    > information
    > > > removed, may be found at the following link:
    > > > http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=4463
    > > >
    > > > Please note that it may take several weeks for the notice to be posted
    >
    > > on
    > > > the above page.
    > > >
    > > > The DMCA is a United States copyright law that provides guidelines for
    > > > online service provider liability in case of copyright infringement.
    > We
    > > > are in the process of removing from our servers the images that
    > > allegedly
    > > > infringe upon the copyrights of others. If we did not do so, we would
    > be
    > > > subject to a claim of copyright infringement, regardless of its
    > merits.
    > > > See http://www.educause.edu/Browse/645?PARENT_ID=254 for more
    > > information
    > > > about the DMCA, and see http://www.google.com/dmca.html for the
    > process
    > > > that Blogger requires in order to make a DMCA complaint.
    > > >
    > > > Blogger can reinstate these images upon receipt of a counter
    > > notification
    > > > pursuant to sections 512(g)(2) and 3) of the DMCA. For more
    > information
    > > > about the requirements of a counter notification and a link to a
    > sample
    > > > counter notification, see http://www.google.com/dmca.html#counter.
    > > >
    > > > Please note that repeated violations to our Terms of Service may
    > result
    > > in
    > > > further remedial action taken against your Blogger account. If you
    > have
    > > > legal questions about this notification, you should retain your own
    > > legal
    > > > counsel. If you have any other questions about this notification,
    > please
    > > > let us know.
    > > >
    > > > Sincerely,
    > > > The Blogger Team
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Affected URLs:
    > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-8.html
    > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-9.html
    > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-15.html
    > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-16.html
    > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-17.html
    > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-18.html
    > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-19.html
    > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-20.html
    > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-21.html
    > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-22.html
    > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-23.html
    > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-24.html
    > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-25.html
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Original Message Follows:
    > > > ————————
    > > > From: “Erik Ribsskog”
    > > > Subject: Re: [#209091530] Blogger DMCA Complaint received
    > > > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:41:26 +0100
    > > >
    > > > Hi,
    > > >
    > > > thank you for your e-mail.
    > > >
    > > > I was wondering if there has been a misunderstanding somewhere,
    > because
    > > I
    > > > have not
    > > > sent any ‘infringement complaint’ regarding any of the mentioned
    > URL’s.
    > > >
    > > > I was just wondering if there had a mix-up or a misunderstanding
    > > > somewhere.
    > > >
    > > > So I hope very much that you have the time to have a look at this.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks in advance!
    > > >
    > > > Yours sincerely,
    > > >
    > > > Erik Ribsskog
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > On 10/22/07, Blogger Help wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > Hello,
    > > > >
    > > > > In accordance with the DMCA, we have completed processing your
    > > > > infringement complaint regarding the following URLs:
    > > > >
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-8.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-9.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-15.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-16.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-17.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-18.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-19.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-20.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-21.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-22.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-23.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-24.html
    > > > > https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-25.html
    > > > > We appreciate your patience as we work to remove all of the images
    > > from
    > > > > our servers. Please note that all cached versions should expire
    > within
    > > a
    > > > > week.
    > > > >
    > > > > Please let us know if we can assist you further.
    > > > >
    > > > > Sincerely,
    > > > > The Blogger Team
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >

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    From: eribsskog@gmail.com Erik Ribsskog
    To: sct@amnesty.org.uk
    Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:47:12 +0100
    Subject: Regarding help from Amnesty

    Hi,

    I’m a Norwegian living in Britain, and I’ve been in contact with the
    Norwegian department of Amnesty,
    regarding lack of respect from the Government in connection with human
    rights issues.

    What I’ve contacted them about, was that the Norwegian Government,
    (Politidirektoratet/justisdepartementet),
    isn’t answering my e-mails.

    And also the ‘Spesialenheten’ (the Norwegian equivalent of ipcc), have been
    using more than six months,
    and have still not decided if they are going to investigate my complaint
    against representatives from
    the Norwegian special police ‘Kripos’, or not.

    So it’s obvious that they are delaying this.

    This might not seem so important, but the point is, that this is in regards
    to me being followed by organised
    criminals or mafia, in both Norway and Britain.

    And the point is, that this can lead to people being
    killed/executed/tortured.

    And also, if the police is aware of this, like the Norwegian police are,
    since I’ve told them, and still don’t help,
    maybe they have problems getting evidence against the criminals/mafia, and
    then hope that they will kill,
    so that they will get evidence in that way. (I would call it people
    sacrifice).

    This is how it seems to me that it must have been, or still is, for all that
    I know.

    And I contacted the Norwegian department of Amnesty, earlier this week, but
    they only said that Amnesty
    wasn’t dealing with investigating crime.

    But that’s not at all what I contacted them about, I contaced them about the
    problem that the Government
    are ignoring peoples rights, with the consequense that people can end up
    murdered/tortured etc.

    So I think, since they are working with human-rights issues, on a daily
    basis, then I can’t really understand,
    how it could be possible for them to not understand what I was contacting
    them about.

    So I’m a bit worried that something might be wrong in the Norwegian Amnesty
    department.

    And this case is also linked to Britain, so I was wondering if it’s right
    that Amensty aren’t dealing with
    serious breaches of human rights from Governments.

    And also how I should go forward if I wanted to complain about the Norwegian
    of Amnesty, since it seems to
    me that something must be wrong there.

    And I think that this would be serious, since I’ve always thought that
    Amnesty is an important organisation,
    and that you are doing valuable work around the world.

    I’m also going to forward you copies of the correspondence I’ve been having
    with the Norwegian deparment
    of Amnesty regarding this.

    I know that they are in Norwegian, but I’m sending them anyway, just for
    formalitys sake.

    I hope that this is alright, and I hope that you have the chance to have a
    look at this!

    Thank you very much for your help in advance!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

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    From: eribsskog@gmail.com Erik Ribsskog
    To: England.moderators@bbc.co.uk
    Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:06:13 +0100
    Subject: Fwd: Your BBC Posting has been removed

    Hi,

    I can’t see that I have recieved an answer to this e-mail yet, thats why I’m
    trying to send it again.

    Hope that this is alright!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog
    Date: Oct 13, 2007 8:34 PM
    Subject: Re: Your BBC Posting has been removed
    To: England

    Hi,

    I was wondering if you think it would be possible for me to get a more
    spesific reason on why the post
    was removed?

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On 12 Oct 2007 15:57:47 +0000, England
    wrote:
    >
    > Dear BBC Community member,
    >
    > Thank you for contributing to a BBC community site. Unfortunately we’ve
    > had to remove your content below because it contravened one of the House
    > Rules.
    >
    > Postings to BBC messageboards will be removed if they:
    >
    > *Break the law, or condone or encourage unlawful activity. This includes
    > defamation and contempt of court.
    >
    > You can find out more about Defamation at
    > http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/hub/HouseRules-Defamation
    > You can read the BBC messageboards House Rules in full here:
    > http://www.bbc.co.uk/messageboards/newguide/popup_house_rules.html
    >
    > Please be careful when you copy the text of someone else’s message into
    > your post. If their posting is subsequently removed, your posting may also
    > have been removed, as it contained a copy of their failed text.
    >
    > If you can rewrite your contribution to remove the problem, we’d be happy
    > for you to post it again.
    >
    > Please note that anyone who seriously or repeatedly breaks the House Rules
    > may have action taken against their account.
    >
    > http://www.bbc.co.uk/messageboards/newguide/popup_breaking_rules.html
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > The BBC Communities Team
    > http://www.bbc.co.uk/messageboards/newguide/
    >
    > URL of content (now removed):
    > http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/england/F2770282?Thread=4653901&post=54093182
    >
    > Subject:
    > The use of Negative Reinforcement as a Management-method at the Arvato
    > Microsoft Scandinavian Product Activation in Liverpool.
    >
    > Posting:
    > When I was working at the Arvato Microsoft Scandinavian Product Activation
    > in Liverpool, I had a meeting with one of the team-leaders on the campaign.
    >
    > I was wondering why we, (I was working as a regular Contact Centre
    > Representative there), and I was wondering why we got lines like ‘NN, you’re
    > on wrap-up’, shouted at us across the tables, from the team-leaders.
    >
    > Then I got to hear that this was something that the team-leaders had been
    > thought during team-leader training.
    >
    > The team-leader I was in the meeting with, told me, that they had been
    > trained using ‘[negative] reinforcement’, during the team-leader training.
    >
    > She explained to me, that she wouldn’t stop with the
    > shouting/complaining/’giving stick’, the way she did, because this was the
    > way they had been trained to lead the campaign.
    >
    > Here is a quote from the summary from this meeting:
    >
    > ‘I also brought up the situation with the wrap-up meeting we had some
    > weeks earlier, where
    > we agreed on that I would work on gradually bettering the wrap-up time,
    > but that she then
    > forgot this agreement, and the next day acted like this meeting hadnt been
    > taking place
    > at all, and continued to shout ‘You’re on wrap-up’ if the wrap-up time
    > exceeded 5 seconds.
    >
    > Vivian explained that this was call reinforcement, and that the
    > team-leaders were trained
    > to use reinforcement as a way of solving problems, like the problem with
    > agents being
    > to long time on wrap-up between the calls. So she wouldnt stop doing this,
    > because she
    > had been trained to do her job this way.
    >
    >
    > NEGATIVE REINFORCEMENT
    >
    > I hadnt heard about reinforcement on the management/organisation modules I
    > had studied on
    > upper secondary and university-level, and neighter had I heard about it on
    > the management-
    > courses I had participated on while I was working as a manager in Norway.
    >
    > So when I got home on the day we had the meeting, I searched for
    > ‘reinforcement’ on the
    > internet. I found from how Vivian described it in the meeting, that this
    > way of sorting
    > problems was called ‘negative reinforcement’.
    >
    > I couldnt find very much on how this was being used in management, but
    > from what I found
    > it seemed like it was more used as a way of training dogs, and that it was
    > known to make
    > the dogs nervous.
    >
    > Line says that they were told to do it this way, because if they did it
    > this way, then the agents
    > would do the job the way the team-leaders wanted.’.
    >
    > Link: https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/10/enclosure-7.html
    >
    >
    > My issue, regarding this, was that when I was searching on the term
    > ‘negative reinforcement’, on the internet, then it mostly appeared links
    > that had to do with the training of animals, like dogs and horses. (And not
    > so much with management-theory):
    >
    > Link: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=negative+reinforcement&meta=cr%3DcountryUK%7CcountryGB
    >
    >
    >
    > And, the fact that the team-leaders are screaming things like ‘You’re on
    > wrap-up’, to the CCR representatives.
    >
    > I think this is a bit impolite, because the places were people are seated,
    > are up to the region of 5-10 meters from were the team-leader is sitting
    > shouting.
    >
    > So I remember I myself thought this practice was a bit inpolite towards
    > the representatives.
    >
    > And also, I thought it was interfering in the work.
    >
    > That is, if one are sitting, and writing some notes, or if one are loging
    > the latest call.
    >
    > The latest call from when someone has called in to activate Windows or
    > Office etc.
    >
    > Then one had five seconds to log the call and to prepare for the next
    > call.
    >
    > So sometimes one ran out of time, and sometimes, one also wanted to have a
    > zip of water inbetween the calls, so sometimes five seconds could be maybe a
    > bit to little time.
    >
    > But the point is, that when the call wasn’t a regular call. That is, if
    > the call lasted for longer than about five minutes, then one had to log the
    > call on a form as well as on the screen.
    >
    > And if it was a company-call, a Microsoft customer, then it could be that
    > one had to write some notes down, since these calls sometimes were a bit
    > more complex than the regular calls.
    >
    > And also since there was a lot of types of agreements, like
    > Select-agreement, Open-agreement, etc.
    >
    > There were meny combinations of different agreements and products, so
    > sometimes, one happened to write down some notes, and also send e-mails to
    > the line-managers about the activation.
    >
    > So if one were busy doing things like this, then I think the shouting was
    > sometimes interfering a bit with the other work.
    >
    > Because, often, it wouldn’t be possible to do work-tasks like this, while
    > one were answering the next call simultaniously.
    >
    > Because one needed to consentrate on the loging and the writing og notes
    > and e-mails.
    >
    > So then it interfered a bit when someone shouted at me: ‘Erik, you’re on
    > wrap-up’. At least I remember that I thought this personally.
    >
    > Because then I lost my concentration, and my awarenes of what I was doing.
    > And I sometimes got a bit stressed, and I maybe started thinking about
    > things regarding the organisation of the campaign instead.
    >
    > And I also think that this practice is a bit condescend.
    >
    > That is, from the team-leader to the representative. It seems to me, that
    > one are shouting like this, then it means that one thinks that the
    > representative isn’t using his time in a meaningful way. That is, it means
    > that the representative is doing something wrong.
    >
    > I tried telling them, that we knew from before, that the wrap-up time was
    > five seconds, and that they didn’t really need to shout that out, because we
    > already knew this from before.
    >
    > And when one used more time than five seconds, it was because it was
    > needed to finish the work-tasks.
    >
    > But when they were shouting, then I think it means that they didn’t belive
    > the representative would be able to manage the time for the work-tasks
    > themselves, in a reasonble way.
    >
    > So then I guess it means that the representatives was looked at as to be
    > thoughtless and without the ability to act reasonable.
    >
    > I thought this meant that the representatives, were looked down upon, in
    > regards to the issue of being able to manage their own work-time in a
    > meaningful way.
    >
    > So I myself, remember, that I was thinking that this practice was a bit
    > condescend.
    >
    > I used to work as a store-manager in Norway, and in conection with that, I
    > had a few courses in practical management etc.
    >
    > And I also had some modules in management and organisation, from upper
    > secondary school level, and also from university level.
    >
    > But I can’t remember, that we were taught were much about ‘negative
    > reinforcement’ in those modules and couses.
    >
    > So I was wondering if someone maybe had some knowledge, regarding where
    > negative reinforcement fits in, in relation to the management-theory field.
    >
    > I think that management is an interesting field, so I think it would be
    > very fine if someone have the time to contribute a bit to the thread on
    > this.
    >
    > I myself, think that this management-method, can maybe sometimes seem a
    > bit harassing, but I think it would be very interesting to also hear what
    > other people think about this.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > This e-mail, and any attachment, is confidential. If you have received
    > it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose
    > the information in any way, and notify us immediately. The contents of
    > this message may contain personal views which are not the views of the
    > BBC, unless specifically stated.
    >
    >

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    From: eribsskog@gmail.com Erik Ribsskog
    To: ole.erik.almlid@aftenposten.no
    Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 01:56:13 +0100
    Subject: Fwd: Debattforum

    Hei,

    jeg bare lurte på om det ikke er meningen at man skal få svar hvis man
    kontakter nettutgaven
    av Aftenposten?

    Jeg abonnerte på Aftenposten i mange år jeg, når jeg bodde i Oslo, så jeg
    synes det er litt
    dårlig å ikke få svar.

    Men man bør kanskje ikke ta det for sikkert at man skal få svar?

    På forhånd takk for hjelp!

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog
    Date: Oct 7, 2007 9:22 PM
    Subject: Fwd: Debattforum
    To: nettutgaven@aftenposten.no

    Hei,

    jeg prøvde å sende denne e-posten tidligere i dag, men han som leder
    debatt-forumet er på ferie, men jeg
    fikk en auto-reply, hvor det stod nevnt den e-post adressen som jeg sender
    til nå, jeg tenkte jeg kunne
    prøve å sende e-posten til den adressen, siden lederen for debatt-forumet,
    er borte frem til 15. oktober.

    Håper dette er i orden!

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog
    Date: Oct 7, 2007 8:32 PM
    Subject: Re: Debattforum
    To: “kristjan.molstad@aftenposten.no”

    Det var veldig bra service, takk for hjelpen!

    Jeg lurte også på en ting.

    Jeg fått i råd på et dansk debatt-forum (debat.bt.dk), om å kontakte en
    journalist, angående et problem jeg har hatt med
    trenering fra politidirektoratet, (og også kripos, spesialenheten,
    norge.no/forsynings- og adminstrasjonsdepartementet, med flere).

    Så jeg bare lurte på om du tilfeldigvis viste om hvem man burde kontakte da?

    Jeg kan sende kopi av e-poster osv. hvis det er interessant, og jeg har også
    en del liggende på en blogg.

    Så på forhånd takk hvis dere har tid til å se på dette!

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    On 10/4/07, kristjan.molstad@aftenposten.no > wrote:
    >
    > Det er det selvsagt.
    >
    >
    >
    > Nå skal du kunne logge deg på som cons – passordet er snoc .
    >
    >
    >
    > Du kan (og bør) endre passordet når du er logget på.
    >
    >
    >
    > *Vennlig hilsen,*
    >
    >
    > *Kristjan Molstad*
    >
    >
    > *Journalist / Debatt- og kommentaransvarlig*
    >
    > *Postboks 1*
    >
    > *N-0051 Oslo*
    >
    >
    >
    > *Tlf. (+47) 22 86 41 47 *
    >
    > *Mob.(+47) 41 567 357 *
    >
    > *Fax (+47) 22 86 41 30*
    > ——————————
    >
    > *Fra:* Erik Ribsskog [mailto: eribsskog@gmail.com]
    > *Sendt:* 4. oktober 2007 09:46
    > *Til:* Molstad, Kristjan
    > *Emne:* Re: Debattforum
    >
    >
    >
    > Hei,
    >
    >
    >
    > det høres bra ut!
    >
    >
    >
    > Jeg var litt dårlig til å forklare:
    >
    >
    >
    > Jeg søkte på brukernavnet nå, og da kom jeg på at jeg hadde jo brukernavn
    > hos dere før: (cons).
    >
    >
    >
    > Men det er det med mobil-systemet, som egentlig er problemet. (Jeg har
    > vært borti problemet før,
    >
    > på et annet forum).
    >
    >
    >
    > Så jeg lurte på, om dere tror det hadde vært mulig, om jeg kunne forsette
    > med det samme brukernavnet,
    >
    > som jeg hadde før?
    >
    >
    >
    > Fordi jeg har ikke koden til det brukernavnet her i England, og det er vel
    > mulig at man må validere
    >
    > brukernavnet hver 6. eller 12. måned, er det ikke noe sånt da?
    >
    >
    >
    > Men så da tenkte jeg at det hadde kanskje vært like greit å eventuelt bare
    > fortsette med det gamle
    >
    > brukernavet, hvis det er mulig, istedet for å begynne med et nytt
    > brukernavn.
    >
    >
    >
    > Håper dette er i orden!
    >
    >
    > Mvh.
    >
    >
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog
    >
    >
    > On 10/4/07, *kristjan.molstad@aftenposten.no* > > wrote:
    >
    > God morgen,
    >
    >
    >
    > Dette ordner vi. Hvilket brukernavn ønsker du?
    >
    >
    >
    > Sjekk gjerne på siden
    >
    >
    > http://debatt.aftenposten.no/search.php?Group=&P=&Start=0&Username=&xP=&xUsername=&xGroup
    > =
    >
    >
    >
    > at ingen allerede har det brukernavnet du ønsker deg. Send meg så en
    > epost, så ordner jeg resten.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > *Vennlig hilsen,*
    >
    >
    > *Kristjan Molstad*
    >
    >
    > *Journalist / Debatt- og kommentaransvarlig*
    >
    > *Postboks 1*
    >
    > *N-0051 Oslo*
    >
    >
    >
    > *Tlf. (+47) 22 86 41 47 *
    >
    > *Mob.(+47) 41 567 357 *
    >
    > *Fax (+47) 22 86 41 30*
    > ——————————
    >
    > *Fra:* Erik Ribsskog [mailto: eribsskog@gmail.com]
    > *Lagt inn:* 3. oktober 2007 17:28
    > *Lagt inn i:* debattleder@aftenposten.no
    > *Diskusjon:* Debattforum
    > *Emne:* Debattforum
    >
    >
    > Hei,
    >
    >
    >
    > jeg bor i England, og jeg så på websiden deres, at det man skulle
    >
    > sende e-post angående registrering hvis man bor i utlandet.
    >
    >
    >
    > Så jeg lurte på hvordan jeg skulle gå frem for å opprette brukernavn.
    >
    >
    >
    > Fordi jeg er på utkikk etter et seriøst forum å diskutere på, så jeg
    >
    > tenkte jeg kanskje skulle prøve å registrere meg på Aftenposten
    >
    > sitt forum.
    >
    >
    >
    > Så jeg lurte på hvordan jeg skulle gå frem i så fall, og jeg lurte
    >
    > også på hvilke opplysninger det er jeg trenger å oppgi.
    >
    >
    >
    > Håper dere har tid til å svare på dette!
    >
    >
    >
    > Mvh.
    >
    >
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >

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    Kategori: IT-business og -politikk | Se alle kategorierStart et nytt emneDigital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA).
    Startet på onsdagav cons – Emnet har 5 innlegg
    Av cons på onsdag:sitér | varsle Jeg har hatt noe problemer med at Arvato i UK, har fått blogger/blogspot, til å slette poster fra en blog jeg har der.

    Og den bloggen ligger vel fysisk på en server i USA da, fordi jeg har fått en klage ifølge DMCA, (Digital Millennium Copyright Act), som er en amerikansk copyright lovgiving.

    link

    Så jeg lurte på om noen har kjennskap til hvilke regler som gjelder her.

    Dette er snakk om dokumenter som jeg personlig fikk, skift-planer osv., da jeg jobbet i Arvato.

    Og de er del av en klage jeg sendte til CAB tidligere i år.

    Og blogg-postene er i forbindelse med klagen.

    Burde ikke dette da være offentlige dokumenter, når de hører til som vedlegg til en offentlig klage?

    Og når jeg har fått dem på jobben, så må jeg vel få lov å legge dem på bloggen og, jeg har jo ikke, såvidt jeg husker, undertegnet noe som sier at vaktlister osv. skal være hemmelige.

    Dessuten har de slettet CV-en min der og, vel da bare fordi det står på CV-en at jeg har jobbet der da.

    Så det hadde vært veldig bra hvis noen hadde hatt noen råd om dette, fordi jeg har planlagt å sende en ‘DMCA counter-complaint’ tilbake, så da hadde det vært bra hvis noen hadde noen råd om dette.

    Så på forhånd takk for hjelp!

    Av ShabbyDog på onsdag:sitér | varsle Skift planer ville jeg sagt at absolutt ikke er offentlige dokumenter, på samme måten som at lister over ansatte etc ikke er offentlige dokumenter.

    I tilfelle så er det at du sprer interne dokumenter i beste fall illojal opptreden og i værste fall spionasje…
    Av cons i går kl 01:10:sitér | redigerShabbyDog skrev:
    Skift planer ville jeg sagt at absolutt ikke er offentlige dokumenter, på samme måten som at lister over ansatte etc ikke er offentlige dokumenter.I tilfelle så er det at du sprer interne dokumenter i beste fall illojal opptreden og i værste fall spionasje…

    Når det er som del av klagesak, som er forbundet med en arbeidssak, som er forbundet igjen med en organisert kriminalitetsak.

    Det blir vel offentlige dokumenter, så fort de blir del av klagesaken?

    Og de sletta jo til og med posten som inneholdt CV-en min, fra bloggen.

    Vel da bare fordi jeg hadde skrevet opp på CV-en om de 15 månedene jeg jobbet for Arvato da.

    (Selv om jobben var å aktivere Windows osv. over telefon, på vegne av Microsoft sin skandinaviske produktaktivering, så var det jo fortsatt av Arvato, som vi var ansatt da).

    Jeg kan ikke skjønne at dette hører hjemme i folkeskikken, eller hva dem pleide å si i gamle dager.

    Du vet ikke om det er organisasjoner man kan få mer råd osv. om dette av, fordi jeg fikk bare et amerikansk faxnummer å sende ‘DMCA counter-complaint’ tilbake til, og det blir litt kronglete fra England, selv om det vel er mulig å finne et sted hvor dem gjør det.

    Men jeg burde vel prøve å finne ut mer om hvilke regler det er som gjelder angående dette, så hvis det er noen som vet om organisasjoner som gir råd om slike ting, så hadde det vært veldig bra.
    Av nan i går kl 06:36:sitér | varsle eh, så vidt jeg vet har ikke DMCA noe med denne typen ting å gjøre. Er nok mer det at du sprer bedriftshemmeligheter (de liker tydeligvis og tenke på det sånn iallefall). Det med at de sletta CVen var nok bare en feil isåfall. Men ja, du kommer nok ikke langt med å klage.
    Av cons i går kl 08:33:sitér | redigerOk, her er i hvertfall de skrev i en av e-postene de sendte fra blogg-firmaet da:

    ‘Hello Erik,

    We received a DMCA complaint from Arvato Services Limited regarding the
    content that we have removed based on their allegations of copyright
    infringement. The DMCA complaint that we received will be posted on the
    link we sent you (www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=4463)
    within the next couple of weeks.

    Sincerely,
    The Blogger Team’.

    johncons-mirror.blogspot.com/2007/10/from-supportblogger.html

    Jeg har også tenkt på det du skriver, at copyright-lover, det er vel mer for ting som musikk og andre media filer kanskje?

    Dette det var snakk om her det var altså, som sagt, skift-planer, møtereferat fra personalmøter på Arvato og min CV da.

    Og disse dokumentene er i forbindelse med en klagesak til Citizens Advice Bureau i England, som er i forbindelse med en Arbeidssak og organisert kriminalitetssak på Arvato i Liverpool, i forbindelse med at jeg jobbet på Microsoft sin skandinaviske produktaktivering der, fram til i fjor.

    Så dette er filer angående arbeidssaken og org. kriminalitetssaken.

    Med bakgrunn i den org. kriminalitetssaken, som ambassaden i London refererte til, ved at de sa at ‘de hjelper ikke folk som samarbeider med kriminelle’ (om mine norske og skandinaviske kollegaer på Microsoft Produktaktivering da, enda dette virket som et vanlig firma, i en kjent bygning, med strenge regler for kontor-antrekk og med Microsoft som oppdragsgiver osv.).

    Og de sa også på ambassaden at om jeg ville at det britiske og norske politiet, skulle samarbeide om dette, så måtte jeg selv kontakte det norske og britiske politiet om dette, og det har jeg gjort.

    Så da jeg sendte disse filene i forbindelse med klagesaker, så var det mye (man skal vel være ærlig å si mest) i forbindelse med at jeg ville at noen skulle gjøre noe med de problemene med organisert kriminalitet, som var i firma, som har/hadde Microsoft produktaktiveringen da.

    Så jeg sendte e-poster til mange aviser i Norge og Storbritannia da.

    Kontaktet moderselskapet Bertelsmann i Tyskland.

    Kontaktet ambasseden, og ga alle dokumenter og møtereferater mm. til de.

    Kontakte politet på Merseyside, og ga kopier av alle dokumenter og møtereferater til de.

    Kontaktet Kripos i Norge, og mailet kopier av dokumenter og referater mm. til de.

    Kontaktet Crown Prosecution Service, Citizens Advice Bureau, The Law Society, LSC, Morecrofts Solicitors, EAD Solicitors, Det Norske Konsulatet i Liverpool, og nå sist til og med Amnesty International.

    Og jeg har lagt de indekserte dokumentene, i forbindelse med klage til CAB, ut på to blogger (pluss en som lagringsplassen ble full på virket det som).

    Så jeg egentlig prøver på, det er det som heter ‘Whistleblowing’ på engelsk da.

    Jeg vet ikke hva man skal kalle det på norsk.

    Men da mener jeg, at da må dette være beskyttet av noen form for regler, fordi jeg mener at når jeg Whistleblower, så kan ikke firma, Arvato Ltd., drive å slette de filene fra bloggen min.

    Da må vel det være beskytet av noen form for lovverk og regler skulle man vel tro.

    Og derfor tenkte jeg at jeg skulle sende en sånn klage på at de ble slettet med bakgrunn i Copyright-bestemmelsene da.

    Fordi jeg mener at de bestemmelsene må være mindre relevante enn å beskytte muligheten til å whistleblowe om sånne ting da.

    Så jeg lurte på om det er noen som har noen meninger eller råd om dette, angående om det er noen organisasjoner jeg burde kontakte osv. angående dette.

    På forhånd takk for svar!

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    From: eribsskog@gmail.com Erik Ribsskog
    To: customer.relations@barclays.co.uk
    Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:43:11 +0100
    Subject: Complaint

    Hi,

    I would please like to complain about your representative Mr. Hall, acting
    inpolite
    against me, while I was in your branch in Lord St. in Liverpool, yesterday.

    It was at around 5.50 pm, yesterday.

    I’ve been busy with other work, so I havn’t got to send the e-mail before
    now.

    I was in the bank to transfer some money to a Norwegian company.

    And I had brought with me an old copy of an ‘Barclays International Payment’
    form.

    To use this to copy the company’s IBAN-number and other details from.

    First I asked polite for a new form, and the representative, Mr. Hall, acted
    like he didn’t want
    to give me the form.

    And just ‘acted stupid’ so to speak, I had to ask several times, to get the
    form.

    Then, when I had finished filling out the form, I returned to where the
    representative was placed.

    And then the representative, Mr. Hall, started mocking my signature.

    The representative also started whispering with one of his collegues or
    managers, a group of
    people appeared behind the representative.

    And then, while the representative was serving me, he started to whisper, it
    seemed to me
    it must have been something related to me, to a college or manager, a woman
    her fourties
    I think she must have been. I think she had blond hair, but I’m not 100%
    certain on that.

    And this seemed very impolite to me, because it seemed to me that it was me
    he was
    whispering about.

    And the representative also acted very akward, like he repeatedly said that
    I would be charged
    £20, ignoring what I said.

    I said the beneficary will be charged for the transfer right.

    Like I had crossed for, on the form.

    And the representative just continued repeating the same sentence several
    time, as though
    I hadn’t said anything at all.

    Even if the representative seemed very focused, so not particulary tired or
    anything like that.

    So I thought this behavour was so strange that it seemed like it was due to
    me as a person,
    that the representative acted so awkward, and didn’t take any regards to
    what I was saying,
    that the beneficary would be charged the £20 charge.

    (I really thoght that it was £25, but maybe I remember wrong, I have quite a
    few things on my
    mind).

    After the representative kept ignoring me, and just countinued saying that I
    would be charged
    £20.

    He said it like I would be charged £20 on top of the £60 that I was
    transfering.

    But I had crossed of on the form for the beneficary to pay for the charge,
    so that it would be
    deducted from the £60.

    Like I’ve always done, I used to transfer money to Norway quite often from
    your old Water St.
    branch, and there they where always acting very polite and correct.

    And it should be clear to the representative that I had transfered money
    abroad from before,
    since I showed the representative the copy of the old form, and asked the
    representative,
    if I could please get a new form.

    (This was when I had just entered into the bank).

    And the representative pretended to not understand, so I had to ask again
    and make it clear
    to the representative that I wanted to transfer some money abroad.

    So it was very strange experience, I think it should have been enough to
    show the representative
    the copy of the old form, and ask if I could please have a new form.

    But that was not enough.

    I had to refrase the question, and I had to point of the fact that I wanted
    to transfer some money
    abroad, before the representative was willing to give me a new form.

    And went I went back, after finishing filling out the new form, then the
    representative was mocking
    my signature, was whispering about me to one of his collegues or managers.

    He repeatedly said, at least three times, that I would be charged £20.

    Even if it said on the form that the beneficary would pay the charge.

    When the representative was ready repeat the sentence about me having to pay
    a £20 charge, for
    the forth time.

    Then I had to interupt the representative, and ask the representative, if
    they had changed their rules
    (for transfereing money abroad).

    The representative answered that you hadn’t changed the rules.

    I think this kind of behaviour was totaly out of line, and I have to say
    very rediculus.

    Because why on earth would he bring up the issue of me having to pay a £20
    charge, so many times.

    When he must have been aware of that I knew the process of transfering money
    abroad from before,
    since I brought with me a copy of the old form.

    And it also said on the form I gave the representative, that the beneficary
    would pay the charge.

    So that the representative, who seemed awake and aware, starts saying that I
    have to pay a
    £20 charge, three or four times, for no seemingly logical reason, seemed a
    bit sureal to me.

    And I also thought that it was very impolite of the representative to mock
    my signature.

    And also I though it was impolite that he didn’t want to give me a new form
    when I asked for one,
    but for some reason, I had to ask twice for a form, before he was willing to
    give me one.

    So I thought this behaviour from the representative was harassing.

    So I wanted to report this, as soon as I left the bank I thought of this.

    But I’ve also been calling your credit-file department, not long ago, I’ll
    try to call them back
    tomorrow, because I haven’t heard from them yet.

    I called them regarding that the bank wouldn’t give me a £30 overdraft for
    food and electricity,
    about two or three weeks ago.

    I thought that there must have been some wrong information registered on me
    on my Barclays
    credit-file.

    Because I have checked it with the Credit Expert company, and theres nothing
    wrong at all
    with my credit file with them, or with my credit history.

    And I haven’t overdrawn my Barclays account, and I have had a regular
    cash-flow on my
    Barclays cashcard and current account for more than two years now.

    From regular full-time employement.

    And I’ve from students who get large overdrafts, but I was unable to get a
    £30 for food and
    electricity, so I’ve followed the advice I was given from the Credit Expert
    company, on
    getting and keeping a high credit-score, so I can’t really understand what
    this is about.

    So due to this investigation, which I havn’t got a reply from yet, I though
    that I maybe shouln’t
    write a complaint about your representative Mr. Hall at first (I saw the
    name on the name-sign,
    and imeadeatly wrote it down on the copy of the international payment form).

    So I decided not to complain at first.

    But when I now, about an hour ago, thought about the episode again, I though
    the episode
    was so surreal and strange, that I decieded that I send a complaint anyway,
    and then
    explain in the complaint that there was an investigation going on regarding
    my Barclays
    credit-file, and that these two complaints are seperate incidents.

    I’ve also been having some problems with an organised crime case in Norway
    and Britain,
    and I haven’t been given any help from the police regarding this.

    Since your representatives are acting so strange (I thought they acted
    strange the last time
    I was in the bank to transfer money abroad as well, even if I can’t remember
    the details
    exactly, at least not at the moment).

    And also since it hasn’t been possible for me, for no understandable reason,
    to get any
    overdraft or loan at all, even if I’ve been in economical hardship, and I’ve
    had a job, and
    a perfect credit-score.

    And no overdrafts or other problems.

    Due to these strange circomstances, and the lack of Goverment help, both in
    Norway
    and Britain, (which I’ve even contacted Amnesty International about,
    although they for
    some reason didn’t want to help with the issues surrounding lack of respect
    from
    government in connection with peoples rights).

    So due to these strange cicomstances, I was wondering if you was instructed
    in any
    way, from the police or other government oragnisations, not to give me a
    loan or
    overdraft.

    And also to use my regular visits to the bank to transfer money, to spy on
    me, and
    ask strange questions for the police/other government institutions?

    Because it seem a bit to me like the police and government institutions, are
    using
    me as a living target or something like that, since I’ve been having some
    problems
    with being followed by mafia, (like I’ve overheard people saying about me
    in Norway).

    And I’ve also been having problems in connection with working in a company
    in
    Liverpool, in which there were organised crime going on, and abouth which,
    the Norwegian embassy in London, explained to me that they didn’t want to
    help the Scandinavians working there, because, like they said, they didn’t
    want to help people who where cooperating with criminals.

    Even if it seemed just like a normal company. Situated in the famous Cunard
    Building, and with strict office-wear dress-code. And with the work-task
    being
    activating Windows and other programs over the phone for Scandinavian
    customers on behalf of Microsoft.

    (Just to explain).

    So if it is the case, that the police or other government organisations, are
    instructing
    you, not to give me a loan or an overdraft, then I would like to remind you
    that
    this isn’t legal.

    People have rights, and the Police have no more right to deny me a loan,
    than
    I have to deny the Police to get a loan.

    I will take these issues further, because I think I’m being harassed in
    regards
    to both these complaints.

    And I don’t really think that the bank have the right to harass me, when it
    comes to not giving me a loan, even if the police tells the bank to do this.

    Because I can’t see that the police have the right to do that.

    And I’d like to add now, when I’m writing this anyway, that I’m going to
    take
    these issues as far as find to be needed, if I find that this is like I
    suspect,
    and if I get the oppertunity.

    I just thought that I’d add that, while I was writing, so that there
    wouldn’t be
    any misunderstandings surrouding this.

    I hope that this is alright!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

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    cons
    Heltidsansatt

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    Ble medlem: 01/09/2007

    Originally posted by: Spaceisdeep

    Originally posted by: cons

    Det er mulig, men jeg trodde fra før at Norden var hjemmemarkedet til Orkla, så det er kanskje litt rart som du sier at de ikke selger pizza i Danmark, uten at jeg skal begynne å gjette noe om årsakene til det.

    Men det er det kanskje noen andre som vet mer om.

    Jeg har da vel aldri sagt at de ikke selger pizza i Danmark. Hat spist pizza der mange ganger.

    Jeg spurte om de solgte Grandiosa i Danmark.

    Altså her mente jeg:

    ‘men jeg trodde fra før at Norden var hjemmemarkedet til Orkla, så det er kanskje litt rart som du sier at de ikke selger pizza i Danmark’.

    Her mente jeg at ‘de’ hører til ‘Orkla’ tidligere i setningen da.

    Altså at det betyr:

    ‘så det er kankskje litt rart som du sier at _Orkla_ ikke selger pizza i Danmark’.

    Men hvis det var feil norsk, så skal jeg klage til norsklæreren min neste jeg ser vedkommende.

    Men det var vel forresten Fru Næss det, på Svelvik Ungdomsskole, hvis jeg husker riktig.

    Og hun var litt oppi åra, her i midten av 80-tallet, så hun er vel ganske oppe i åra nå eventuelt.

    Så det spørs vel kanskje litt om hu kjenner meg igjen da, man veit jo hvordan det er når folk kommer litt oppi åra.

    Jeg husker farmora mi, hu kalte meg alltid onkelen min sitt navn, Runar, når hu begynte å komme opp i 70-åra var det vel.

    Så det var litt snodig ja.

    Og når jeg besøkta a på eldrehjemmet inni Svelvik der en sommer, så ble a nesten redd meg fikk jeg inntrykk av.

    Så det var ikke så gøy nei, men det er mulig hu ikke kjente meg igjen da.

    Men samme det.

    Jeg bare tok med litt fleip osv. på slutten der, det er vel lov å fleipe litt i hvertfall får man håpe, men jeg skal prøve å ta meg inn og holde meg strengt til tema fremover.

    Så beklager det.