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Stikkord: Didrik Galtrup Gjedde Nyholm (Dommer i Egypt og Haag mm. Bror av Anders Gjedde Nyholm)

  • Mer om han forfaren min, (eller ‘falske Gjedden’), Didrik Galtrup Gjedde Nyholm, som var dommer i Egypt, (og Haag)

    SECOND YEAR BOOK OF THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS.

    DIDRIK GALTRUP GJEDDE NYHOLM (Denmark).
    Member of the International Mixed Tribunal at Cairo since
    1896 and Vice-President of that body since 1916; Justice of
    the Court of Appeals at Copenhagen; member of the Perma-
    nent Court of Arbitration at The Hague; author of one of the
    draft schemes for an International Court of Justice used by
    the Committee of International Jurists as a basis for the
    scheme finally adopted by the League.

    http://www.archive.org/stream/yearbookofleague02leveuoft/yearbookofleague02leveuoft_djvu.txt

    PS.

    Jeg fikk alle papirene etter han, (nesten dagboknotater fra Egypt, var det kanskje), på slutten av 80-tallet, skrevet med sirlig dansk skrift, så jeg skjønte ikke så mye.

    Jeg ga halvbroren min Axel, noen fotografier av broren til dommeren, generalen Anders Gjedde Nyholm, og danskekongen mm.

    Men så skulle plutselig mormoren min, Ingeborg Ribsskog, ha tilbake disse papirene, (flere hundre dokumenter etter dommeren og generalen).

    Og etter det, så så jeg ikke noe mer til dette.

    Så sånn var det.

    Bare noe jeg kom på.

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS 2.

    Her er mer om den domstolen:

    Once in Cairo, Schumpeter represented clients in cases before the International Mixed Tribunal, a court established by Britain and Egypt.

    http://www.theconglomerate.org/2007/04/page/3/

  • Jeg skrev en e-post til University of Cambridge, som ga meg noe råd, om hvordan jeg skulle finne informasjon om ‘de falske Gjeddene’







    Google Mail – Re: FW: About Diderik Galtrup Gjedde Nyholm, judge in British imperial Egypt







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    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Re: FW: About Diderik Galtrup Gjedde Nyholm, judge in British imperial Egypt





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:26 PM





    To:

    "J.P. Slight" <jps50@cam.ac.uk>



    Hi,

    thank you very much, that was a very good advice, I'll try to go to the National Archives, (or perhaps call them, since I live in Liverpool).
    This was very good service, from the University of Cambridge, I'm from Norway, and I write about this, with my ancestors, and more, on a Norwegian blog I have, and I'll mention there that your University, gave good advice, when I asked about questions about this.

    That was very helpful of you!
    Thank you very much for your help again!
    Yours sincerely,
    Erik Ribsskog

    On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:07 PM, J.P. Slight <jps50@cam.ac.uk> wrote:

    Dear Erik,

    My PhD supervisor Dr. Harper forwarded your email to me.

    I think you should visit the National Archives in person and explain to them the person you are looking for – the staff are very good and you may find something there.

    In Egypt, and many parts of the British Empire, non-British Europeans often filled positions such as judges. The British were only concerned to exclude natives of the country they were ruling (at least until the later nineteenth century). Particularly in the Egyptian case there was a long precedent of Europeans holding positions of power (Egypt's ruler in the early nineteenth century Muhammad Ali was Albanian, and many Europeans were employed in the finance ministry, the judiciary, the police force, and especially the Army). I hope this answers your question.

    With best wishes,

    John Slight

    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 28 October 2009 05:54

    To: tnh1000@cam.ac.uk

    Subject: About Diderik Galtrup Gjedde Nyholm, judge in British imperial

    Egypt

    Hi,

    I'm a Norwegian citizen, who's living in the UK, (due to

    problems with my family etc., without that I've done anything wrong, that I

    know of, at least, in Norway), and I have a late grandmoter from Denmark,

    Ingeborg Ribsskog, who said that she was from the Danish noble-family Gjedde.

    But I've later found out, on the internet, that they weren't noble after all,

    so this was a lie, I think I have to say.

    And, in her family, was eg. her grandfather, her mothers father, Anders Gjedde

    Nyholm, who was Chief of the Generalkommando, that's the general with control

    on all of Denmarks war-forces, in the 1920's.

    And her grand-uncle, was Diderik Galtrup Gjedde Nyholm, who

    was a judge, for the British imperial courts, in Cairo, and then later a judge

    in the International Court, in Hague, in the 1920's.

    I wonder why they would lie about the noble backgroud.

    Anders Gjedde Nyholm, only wrote A. Nyholm, I've seen, as a signature, on

    official portrait-photographs in the Danish military-archives.

    And their grandfather, was a farmers son, I've read on

    Thisted Museum's, in Denmark's, website.

    So they weren't noble, but they maybe used the Gjedde-name

    to get prestige, because of the famous Admiral and colonisator

    of Tharambangdi, in India, for Denmark-Norway, Ove Gjedde, was famous, and

    maybe they pretended to be from the same family?

    I've tried to serch the British National Archives online,

    about this, but I got no result, so I didn't know how to try to find out about

    this, other than contacting a good university.

    I was wondering why the British Imperial Courts in Cairo,

    would let a Dane, (my grandmothers grand-uncle), Diderik Galtrup Gjedde Nyholm,

    be a judge, in the British Empire?

    Isn't this a bit strange, weren't this positions normally given to people from

    the British Empire?

    I hope you have the chance to answer about this, or that you

    know of someone who might know about this!

    I hope it's alright to ask about this, and I apologise, if

    it isn't.

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog






  • Jeg sendte en e-post til en professor ved University of Cambridge, som er ekspert i Britisk imperie-historie, om ‘de falske Gjeddene’







    Google Mail – About Diderik Galtrup Gjedde Nyholm, judge in British imperial Egypt







    Google Mail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    About Diderik Galtrup Gjedde Nyholm, judge in British imperial Egypt





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:54 AM





    To:

    tnh1000@cam.ac.uk



    Hi,

    I'm a Norwegian citizen, who's living in the UK, (due to problems with my family etc., without that I've done anything wrong, that I know of, at least, in Norway), and I have a late grandmoter from Denmark, Ingeborg Ribsskog, who said that she was from the Danish noble-family Gjedde.

    But I've later found out, on the internet, that they weren't noble after all, so this was a lie, I think I have to say.
    And, in her family, was eg. her grandfather, her mothers father, Anders Gjedde Nyholm, who was Chief of the Generalkommando, that's the general with control on all of Denmarks war-forces, in the 1920's.

    And her grand-uncle, was Diderik Galtrup Gjedde Nyholm, who was a judge, for the British imperial courts, in Cairo, and then later a judge in the International Court, in Hague, in the 1920's.

    I wonder why they would lie about the noble backgroud.
    Anders Gjedde Nyholm, only wrote A. Nyholm, I've seen, as a signature, on official portrait-photographs in the Danish military-archives.

    And their grandfather, was a farmers son, I've read on Thisted Museum's, in Denmark's, website.
    So they weren't noble, but they maybe used the Gjedde-name to get prestige, because of the famous Admiral and colonisator of Tharambangdi, in India, for Denmark-Norway, Ove Gjedde, was famous, and maybe they pretended to be from the same family?

    I've tried to serch the British National Archives online, about this, but I got no result, so I didn't know how to try to find out about this, other than contacting a good university.
    I was wondering why the British Imperial Courts in Cairo, would let a Dane, (my grandmothers grand-uncle), Diderik Galtrup Gjedde Nyholm, be a judge, in the British Empire?
    Isn't this a bit strange, weren't this positions normally given to people from the British Empire?

    I hope you have the chance to answer about this, or that you know of someone who might know about this!
    I hope it's alright to ask about this, and I apologise, if it isn't.

    Yours sincerely,
    Erik Ribsskog






  • Det er noe med Egypt ja, og ‘de falske Gjeddene’/Ribsskog-familien

    Og det er mange ting.

    Mormora mi, Ingeborg Ribsskog, hadde jo en kjent morfar, som var øverstkommanderende general, i Danmark, i mellomkrigstiden.

    Og broren til generalen, som het Anders Gjedde Nyholm, het Diderik Galtrup Gjedde Nyholm, og var dommer i Egypt!, for britene, i Kairo.

    Før han ble dommer i Haag, etter noen forviklinger.

    Og søstra mi spurte meg, da hun gikk første året på videregående vel, hva sånne statuer nede i Egypt heter.

    Jeg svarte føniks, eller sfinx, eller noe.

    (Det er ikke så lett å si de rare egyptiske navna).

    Og da sa søstra mi til meg, en uke senere kanskje, at det jeg sa var feil, så de andre i klassen hennes, i første klasse almenn, på Sande videregående, hadde sagt at hun var dum.

    Så sånn var det.

    Mer da.

    Jo, bestemor Ingeborg, hadde jo en Istar-stjerne, som er en egyptisk gudinne vel, i vinduet sitt, i Nevlunghavn, så jeg i nettavisen påneset.no, tidligere i år.

    Og søstra mi dro på ferie til Egypt, rundt år 2000, husker jeg, da hun bodde i Tromsøgata.

    Så sånn var det.

    Og Øystein Andersen, han skaffa meg dataprogram, en demo, med bilde av en sånn sfinx, eller noe, husker jeg, (til C64, på 80-tallet).

    Og Ågot hadde et egyptisk kunstverk, med bilde av en farao, eller noe, og noen hieroglyfer vel, på veggen, på Sand, som jeg tror Ove arva,

    (det er den samme fetteren min Ove, som er bror til Heidi, og de dansa som besatte, etter Gypsy Kings, på slutten av 90-tallet vel, da jeg besøkte dem, en gang, og mora er i Jehovas Vitner, så det er mulig at Jehovas Vitner også er en gren av signøynerne eller egypterne da, de oppfører seg ihvertfall mye lignende av taterne, ved at de går på dørene til folk da, og krangla med Haldis Humblen, min fars samboer, en gang, på Bergeråsen, når hu var aleine hjemme, så ville de ikke gå, men prøvde å tvinge opp døra, så Haldis grein, husker jeg, da faren min kom hjem, for jeg satt på i bilen, av en eller annen grunn, før jeg gikk hjem. Så sånn var det).

    Så her er det egypterne, (eller gypsi-ene, altså ‘sigøynerne), som nok tuller med meg, (og resten av verden?), vil jeg si.

    Så sånn er nok det.

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

  • Dette her er etter min tippoldefar Anders Gjedde Nyholms bror, Didrik Gjedde Nyholm, som var internasjonal dommer i Haag, og skulle dømt om Grønland

    grønland

    http://www.antiqbook.com/boox/mainst/AUTOGRAPHS-3652.shtml

    PS.

    Her kan man se, at min tippoldefars bror, han var dansk, men han var ikke motstander av Norge, tror jeg.

    Han var begeistret for Ibsen, kan man se her.

    Så han hadde kanskje dømt for Norge, sånn at Grønland ble norsk.

    Men, han døde, en eller to dager før rettsaken mellom Danmark og Norge, skulle dømmes i Haag.

    Noe sånt.

    Så ble det istedet en annen dansk dommer som skulle være med å dømme.

    Og vi vet jo hvordan det endte.

    Kan noen ha drept han her Didrik Gjedde Nyholm?

    Noen i Danmark som ville at Danmark skulle beholde Grønland?

    Var det derfor bestemor Ingeborg måtte flytte til Norge?

    Dette er ihvertfall et mysterium, vil jeg nesten si.

    Var det ikke litt rart at dommer Gjedde Nyholm, min tippoldefars bror, skulle dø, dagen før en av verdens viktigste rettsaker omtrent?

    Ihvertfall en av de mest kjente og viktigste rettsaker i Nord-Europa og Norden vel.

    Så min danske familie, de har også hatt innvirkning på Norges historie, kan man se her.

    Og også min tippoldefar, Anders Gjedde Nyholm, for han var øverstkommanderende, for alle danske stridstyrker, på begynnelsen av 30-tallet.

    Det var min nylig avdøde mormor, fra Nevlunghavn, Ingeborg Ribsskogs, morfar vel.

    Jeg har hatt masse dokumenter, etter min tippoldefar, Anders Gjedde Nyholm, og hans bror Didrik Gjedde Nyholm, som var internasjonal dommer i Egypt og Haag.

    Men bestemor Ingeborg, hun skulle plutselig ha tilbake alle de bildene av general Gjedde Nyholm og danskekongen osv., og alle brevene fra dommer Gjedde Nyholm, hvor han nok skrev om Egypt og Haag og slikt.

    Så hvor de har blitt av nå, det vet jeg ikke.

    Men de var mine, i noen år, på slutten av 80- og begynnelsen av 90-tallet.

    Så sånn var det.

    Med vennlig hilsen

    Erik Ribsskog