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Hello, Sorry to hear about your family's secrecy. That is the case with many families and only they know why there is secrecy. Good luck with your search for your roots. Sincerely, Dennis — On Tue, 1/19/10, Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> wrote: From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan To: "Dennis Herbranson" <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 11:44 PM Hi, yes I have those pages from the Rollag Bygdebøker. (The library there sent me them, since I contacted them, a few weeks ago). So I have those scans. I can try to contact the library in Jefferson Prairie, Wisconsin, and hear if they have some of information about my great grandmother and her parents and/or foster-parents. This link between my family and America, is something that my family have kept hidden for me. My father have a new woman, Haldis Humblen, that he has been living with, since 1980, but not married. And she has relatives in the Order of St. John, which they also have kept hidden for me. And on my mothers side, they have kept hidden, that the baron Adeler, was in our line. So there has been a lot of secrecy, in my family, so I have no longer any bonds to them, so that's why I have to ask everyone else, about all these stuff. So sorry about the inconvenience surrounding this! Best regards, Erik Ribsskog PS. And when I get more money, I'll contact Rollag to Rollag back, and order the book about the people who immigrated to America, from Rollag in Numedalen. Thanks very much for the help with this! On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Dennis Herbranson <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Erik, do you have access to the Rollag Bygdeboker? I have found the information about your great grandmother, including a picture of her. If you do not, I can scan the information and send it to you. > > I looked in our Rollag book and there is nothing about the people you mentioned in our book, so they did not come to Rollag, Minnesota. They may have gone to Jefferson Prairie, Wisconsin as that was another Numedal community in America at that time. > > — On Tue, 1/19/10, Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan > To: "Dennis Herbranson" <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net> > Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:10 PM > > Hi, > that's very brilliant! > I got some of the names wrong, I thought Toeiet meant that they owned in two countries. > I have some files from Rollag library, in Norway. > I have them on a blog I write on: > > http://johncons-mirror.blogspot.com/2010/01/na-ma-jeg-si-at-jeg-er-litt-stolt-her.html > I currently live in Liverpool, UK, since I'm a refugee from Norway. > (I overheard in 2003 and 2004, in Oslo, that I was followed by the 'mafian', which I guess could be the communists or muslims. > Anyway, the police in Norway wont help, and I was a student then, after working as a shop manager, so I didn't have that much money, so I ended up in the UK). > I'll attach a family-tree, so it's possible to see, that my fathers mother, Ågot Mogans family, were from Rollag in Numedal. > (I'm also in the noble-lines Gjedde and Adeler, from Denmark and Norway, so that could be why I'm being followed as well I guess). > So I appriciate any help, since I'm in this difficult situation, so that's very fine! > Thank's very much in advance for any help! > Sincerely, > Erik Ribsskog > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Dennis Herbranson <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >> Thank you for your message, Erik. I will see what I can find. I have all the Rollag Bygdeboker and will see if there is any information there as well. May I ask where you currently live? Do you live in Norway? >> >> The price of the book is $45 US plus shipping. I think it costs about $25 US to ship a book to Norway. So the total price of the book shipped to Norway would be about $70 US. >> >> You asked about criminals in Rollag, Minnesota. No, there were no criminals. They were all poor farmers who came to America to get more land and a better life for their families. >> >> Gullek shows up quite often in the Rollag, Norway records, especially back in the 1600s and 1700s. It is an old name, I believe. Gulleksrud would mean Gullek's clearing, so it had to be a small farm. And Toeiet would be a small husman's farm on Toen. So I will look there also. >> >> I will try to find out some information about your ancestors for you. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Dennis >> >> >> — On Mon, 1/18/10, Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> >> Subject: Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan >> To: rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net >> Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 10:50 PM >> >> Hi, >> I was wondering if you have any information, about my great-grandmother Bergit, (or Birgit), Tovsdotter Mogan, who went to the USA, as a foster-child, her uncle, Gullek Gulleksson Toeiet (Gulleksrud), and his wife, Åse Levorsdotter. >> They went to America, around 1885, from Rollag, in Norway, probably to Rollag, Minnesota, I'd say. >> I went to the USA myself, in 2005, after I'd overheard that I was followed, by the 'mafian', (I don't really know who they are. I was a shop-manager in Oslo). >> Then I went to Detroit, in 2005, but was sent right back to Europe, without doing anything wrong. >> So maybe my family are in this 'mafian' and told the USA immigrant-police lies, when they called my family in Norway? >> I try to dig up things about my family, and has found out that my great-grandmother, on my fathers side, was brought up in the USA, before returning to Norway, something my family in Norway has never told me. >> So it's like they've tried to cover up stuff for me. >> I think they probably are like the criminals in the movie 'Fargo'. >> Where there many criminals among the Norwegians moving to Rollag, Minnesota? >> My great-grandmothers parents where her mother Jøran Gulleksdotter Gulleksrud, and her husband, Tov Pedersen Toeiet (Mogan). >> 'Toeiet' means two-own, that is, owns to places. >> So it could be that it means that they own both in the USA and in Norway. >> Gulleksrud is a placename, in Rollag, Norway, I think it must be. >> And Gulleksdotter, means 'daughter of Gullek'. >> So she had the same father, as the foster-father, who was her brother, Gullek Gulleksson (Toeiet) Gulleksrud. >> Gullek is a name, that's not that common, in Norway, I think. >> 'Gull' in Norwegian, means 'gold'. >> I hope you have the chance to answer me about this! >> Thanks in advance for any help! >> How do I order the Rollag to Rollag-book? >> If you don't know this, then I maybe I should read about this in your book. >> But thanks in advance if you know anything about this! >> Yours sincerely, >> >> Erik Ribsskog