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    Grandiosa
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    Grandiosa (also known as Grandis or Grandi) refers to the most popular frozen pizza in Norway. Grandiosa can also refer to the series of different Grandiosa variants. Grandiosa is originally an Italian word for great.

    Contents [hide]
    1 History
    2 Market share
    3 Varieties
    4 Doubt surrounding the binding-agent being used in the ‘pizza-meat’ mixture
    5 References
    6 External links

    [edit] History
    Production of the original Grandiosa started on February 11, 1980, then produced by Nora (now Stabburet) in Stranda in Møre og Romsdal. Grandiosa was one of the first frozen pizzas produced in Norway. The pizza became vastly popular and is still the most sold pizza brand in Norway, in defiance of increasing competition from other local and international brands. In 2002 Stabburet responded to increased competition in the frozen food segment by revived the brand with creative marketing and several new versions of Grandiosa. The pizza is also exported in smaller numbers to the neighbouring countries Sweden and Finland.

    The pizza is subject to a lot of humorous debate, and is unquestionably a piece of modern culture, loathed and loved by Norwegians. It has has been called the “modern national dish” by some, others claim it is “a piece of cardboard”, “laziness in a box” and even “refrigerated evil”.[1]

    In 2005 Grandiosa got its own unofficial book: “GrandiosaLAND”. The book contains stories about the man who had a broken jaw and had to put his Grandiosa in the mix master so he could eat it, and many other stories about Grandiosa, and Norwegian favourite past times such as “hyttetur” (trips to cabins typically located close to the sea/fjords or up in the mountains), “russetid” (the close to lawless celebration of the high school diploma) and “dugnad” (the collective activity of helping one another with community tasks).

    [edit] Market share
    Grandiosa benefited from being first to the market and early creating surprisingly loyal customers. Lately Stabburet has used creative marketing to promote Grandiosa. Examples are their very successful SMS-vote marketing campaign for selecting new addition to the pizza in 2004. Another example is their hit mobile ring tone “Respekt for Grandiosa” (Respect for Grandiosa) which 300,000 downloaded within 1.5 months.[2]

    A total of 260 million pizzas have been sold. Twenty million units of Grandiosa are produced each year for the 4.67 million citizens of Norway.[3] The average person eats about 5 Grandiosa pizzas per year showing how extremely popular “Grandis” is among young people. The reason for its popularity is that it is a Norwegian product, that it is easy to make, and, according to some, that it tastes nice. It is prepared in a stove for approximately 12 minutes at 225 degrees Celsius. 100 grams of Grandiosa gives 220 kcal (920 kJ). The normal price for a Grandiosa is about 25 NOK (about $4), and about 45 NOK (nearly $8) for the Lørdagspizza (Saturday Pizza).

    [edit] Varieties
    In addition to the original Grandiosa, there exists different varieties.

    Introduced Name Type Notes
    November 11, 1980 Grandiosa ‘pizza-meat’, cheese, tomato sauce and red bell pepper The original Grandiosa
    2002 Grandiosa Mild Taco Taco spiced meat and tortilla chip Discontinued in favour of Kjøttdeig & Løk
    2004 Grandiosa Pepperoni Pepperoni and oregano Lost to Kjøttdeig & Løk but is still sold regardless
    2004 Grandiosa Kjøttdeig & Løk Minced meat and onion Winner of the 2004 pizza election
    2005 Grandiosa Taco Taco spiced meat and corn Winner of the 2005 pizza election
    2005 Grandiosa Pølse & Tomat Sausage and tomato Lost the election to Taco
    Grandiosa Porsjonspizza Portion Pizza Small, plate-sized pizza
    2006 Grandiosa Lørdagspizza Meatballs, beef and a dip Translates to Saturday Pizza. Needs extra sour cream for dip.
    2007 Grandiosa Full Pakke Meatballs, beef, dip, pepperoni and ham.

    [edit] Doubt surrounding the binding-agent being used in the ‘pizza-meat’ mixture
    There is some doubt surrounding which binding-agent Stabburet is using in the ‘pizza-meat’ mixture. (A mixture which is containing forthy percent meat from cattle, according to Stabburet).

    On one webpage, on the Stabburet website, it says that the binding-agent being used is soy-protein[4], while on another webpage, also on the Stabburet website, it says the the binding-agent being used is gelatine based on swine.[5]

    So it could seem like the company itself is a bit uncertain regarding which binding-agent that is really being used in the mixture.

    Also, more questions surrounding Pizza Grandiosa, have been brought up, in a thread, on the Norwegian online newspaper TV2 Nettavisen’s message-board ‘Veggavisen’.[6]

    It seems like there could be a small paradox, or maybe even a small mystery, surrounding the fact that many Grandiosa pizza-editions (including the famous and big-selling Grandiosa Orginal/Classic), all being produced on the Stabburet Grandiosa-factory in Stranda in Norway, are being sold in very large quantities in Norway and Finland, while they are not being sold in Sweden or Denmark at all. [7]

    In Sweden and Denmark, only Grandiosa-editions produced on the Orkla-owned Procordia pizza-factory in Dalarna in Sweden, and on the Big One pizza-factory in Stranda in Norway, are being sold.

    In Stranda, there are in fact two pizza-factories. One Big One pizza-factory (The pizzas produced on this factory are being sold as ‘Big One’ pizzas in Norway, and as ‘Grandiosa Big One’ in Sweden and Finland), and one Grandiosa pizza-factory (The pizzas being produced here are only sold in Norway and Finland).

    The two pizza-factories, in the remote West-Norwegian municipality of Stranda, are being run completely separatly, and each of them have got their own separate pizza-bread bakery.[8]

    These facts has led to that there have been questions raised, regarding the contence of the pizzas produced at the Stabburet Grandiosa pizza-factory in Stranda, since these pizzas are not being sold at all in neighter Sweden or Denmark, even if they are, by far, the most sold frozen pizza-types in Norway, and are also being sold in large quantities in Finland.[9]

    (This is being shown in the thread from the TV2 Nettavisen’s message-board, Veggavisen, refered to above. These are also commonly known facts, since these products are commonly available in the food-shops in the Nordic countries.)

    [edit] References
    ^ Sverre Bjørstad Graff (2002-07-01). Grandiosa – den store testen! (Norwegian). Retrieved on 2006-10-14.
    ^ Joakim Thorkildsen (2006-03-14). 300 000 har lastet ned Grandiosa-låt (Norwegian). Retrieved on 2006-10-14.
    ^ Stabburet. Merker og Produkter – Grandiosa (Norwegian). Retrieved on 2006-10-14.
    ^ Stabburet. Storhusholdning: Produktkatalog – Grandiosa Pizza 10x585g (Norwegian). Retrieved on 2007-12-01.
    ^ Stabburet. Ernæring og helse – Næringstabeller – Grandiosa (Norwegian). Retrieved on 2007-12-01.
    ^ Veggavisen. Kultur – Mat og drikke – Hvordan kjøtt er det i Pizza Grandiosa? (Norwegian). Retrieved on 2007-12-01.
    ^ Grandiosa. Hitta din idealpizza (press ‘Pizzor’ on the webpage, to get to the menu showing pictures of the different Granidosa pizza-types being sold in Sweden) (Swedish). Retrieved on 2007-12-01.
    ^ Veiatlas.no – Din reiseplanlegger med presentasjon av norske hjørnestensbedrifter. Stabburet AS Stranda Kyrkjegata (Norwegian). Retrieved on 2007-12-01.
    ^ Grandiosa. Perhepizzat – Grandiosa Classic (Finnish). Retrieved on 2007-12-01.

    [edit] External links
    Grandiosa Norway
    Grandiosa Finland
    Grandiosa Sweden
    GrandiosaLANDs homepage
    Retrieved from “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiosa”
    Categories: Norwegian cuisine | Orkla Group | Frozen pizza brands

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    Bindemiddelet i ‘pizzakjøttet’ på Grandiosaen.
    Det er litt tvil rundt om Stabburet bruker soyaprotein eller gelatin basert på svin, som bindelmiddel i ‘kjøttblandingen’ (kjøttblandingen inneholder 40% storfekjøtt ifølge Stabburet).

    På en av Stabburets websider, så står det at bindemiddelet i ‘kjøttblandingen’ er soyaprotein [3], mens det på en annen av Stabburets websider står at bindemiddelet er gelatin basert på svin.[4]

    Så det virker som om Stabburet selv ikke er sikre på dette.

    Det stilles også fler spørsmål rundt Pizza Grandiosa i en tråd på Nettavisens debattforum, Veggavisen.[5]

    Et lite paradoks og mysterium, kan det også ligge i at pizzaer fra Stabburets Grandiosa-fabrikk på Stranda, er storselgere i Norge og Finland, mens de ikke selges i det hele tatt i Sverige og Danmark.

    I Sverige og Danmark selger de kun Grandiosa-pizzaer produsert på den Orkla-eide Procordia pizzafabrikken i Dalarna i Sverige, samt fra Big One pizzafabrikken på Stranda.

    Det er nemlig to pizzafabrikker på Stranda. En Big One og en Grandiosa pizzafabrikk. De har til og med hvert sitt eget pizzabunn-bakeri.

    Dette har ført til at det har blitt stilt spørsmål ved inneholdet i pizzaene fra Stabburet sin Grandiosafabrikk på Stranda, siden pizzaer herfra, ikke selges i hverken Sverige eller Danmark, mens de i Norge er de mest solgte pizzaene, og de er også storselgere i Finland.

    (Dette er vist i tråden fra Nettavisens debattforum, som det er referert til ovenfor. Men dette er vel også kjente fakta, det er jo alment kjent, det er jo snakk om varer som er i butikkene.)

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    Grandiosa
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Jump to: navigation, search
    Grandiosa (also known as Grandis or Grandi) refers to the most popular frozen pizza in Norway. Grandiosa can also refer to the series of different Grandiosa variants. Grandiosa is originally an Italian word for great.

    Contents [hide]
    1 History
    2 Market share
    3 Varieties
    4 Doubt surrounding the binding-agent being used in the ‘pizza-meat’ mixture
    5 References
    6 External links

    [edit] History
    Production of the original Grandiosa started on February 11, 1980, then produced by Nora (now Stabburet) in Stranda in Møre og Romsdal. Grandiosa was one of the first frozen pizzas produced in Norway. The pizza became vastly popular and is still the most sold pizza brand in Norway, in defiance of increasing competition from other local and international brands. In 2002 Stabburet responded to increased competition in the frozen food segment by revived the brand with creative marketing and several new versions of Grandiosa. The pizza is also exported in smaller numbers to the neighbouring countries Sweden and Finland.

    The pizza is subject to a lot of humorous debate, and is unquestionably a piece of modern culture, loathed and loved by Norwegians. It has has been called the “modern national dish” by some, others claim it is “a piece of cardboard”, “laziness in a box” and even “refrigerated evil”.[1]

    In 2005 Grandiosa got its own unofficial book: “GrandiosaLAND”. The book contains stories about the man who had a broken jaw and had to put his Grandiosa in the mix master so he could eat it, and many other stories about Grandiosa, and Norwegian favourite past times such as “hyttetur” (trips to cabins typically located close to the sea/fjords or up in the mountains), “russetid” (the close to lawless celebration of the high school diploma) and “dugnad” (the collective activity of helping one another with community tasks).

    [edit] Market share
    Grandiosa benefited from being first to the market and early creating surprisingly loyal customers. Lately Stabburet has used creative marketing to promote Grandiosa. Examples are their very successful SMS-vote marketing campaign for selecting new addition to the pizza in 2004. Another example is their hit mobile ring tone “Respekt for Grandiosa” (Respect for Grandiosa) which 300,000 downloaded within 1.5 months.[2]

    A total of 260 million pizzas have been sold. Twenty million units of Grandiosa are produced each year for the 4.67 million citizens of Norway.[3] The average person eats about 5 Grandiosa pizzas per year showing how extremely popular “Grandis” is among young people. The reason for its popularity is that it is a Norwegian product, that it is easy to make, and, according to some, that it tastes nice. It is prepared in a stove for approximately 12 minutes at 225 degrees Celsius. 100 grams of Grandiosa gives 220 kcal (920 kJ). The normal price for a Grandiosa is about 25 NOK (about $4), and about 45 NOK (nearly $8) for the Lørdagspizza (Saturday Pizza).

    [edit] Varieties
    In addition to the original Grandiosa, there exists different varieties.

    Introduced Name Type Notes
    November 11, 1980 Grandiosa ‘pizza-meat’, cheese, tomato sauce and red bell pepper The original Grandiosa
    2002 Grandiosa Mild Taco Taco spiced meat and tortilla chip Discontinued in favour of Kjøttdeig & Løk
    2004 Grandiosa Pepperoni Pepperoni and oregano Lost to Kjøttdeig & Løk but is still sold regardless
    2004 Grandiosa Kjøttdeig & Løk Minced meat and onion Winner of the 2004 pizza election
    2005 Grandiosa Taco Taco spiced meat and corn Winner of the 2005 pizza election
    2005 Grandiosa Pølse & Tomat Sausage and tomato Lost the election to Taco
    Grandiosa Porsjonspizza Portion Pizza Small, plate-sized pizza
    2006 Grandiosa Lørdagspizza Meatballs, beef and a dip Translates to Saturday Pizza. Needs extra sour cream for dip.
    2007 Grandiosa Full Pakke Meatballs, beef, dip, pepperoni and ham.

    [edit] Doubt surrounding the binding-agent being used in the ‘pizza-meat’ mixture
    There is some doubt surrounding which binding-agent Stabburet is using in the ‘pizza-meat’ mixture. (A mixture which is containing forthy percent meat from cattle, according to Stabburet).

    On one webpage, from the Stabburet website, it says that the binding-agent being used is soy-protein[4], while on another webpage, also on the Stabburet website, it says the the binding-agent being used is gelatine based on swine.[5]

    So it could seem like the company itself is a bit uncertain regarding which binding-agent that is really being used in the mixture.

    Also, more questions surrounding Pizza Grandiosa, have been brought up, in a thread, on the Norwegian online newspaper TV2 Nettavisen’s message-board ‘Veggavisen’.[6]

    It seems like there could be a small paradox, or maybe even a small mystery, surrounding the fact that many Grandiosa pizza-editions (including the famous and big-selling Grandiosa Orginal/Classic), all being produced on the Stabburet Grandiosa-factory in Stranda in Norway, are being sold in very large quantities in Norway and Finland, while they are not being sold in Sweden or Denmark at all.

    In Sweden and Denmark, only Grandiosa-editions produced on the Orkla-owned Procordia pizza-factory in Dalarna in Sweden, and on the Big One pizza-factory in Stranda in Norway, are being sold.

    In Stranda, there are in fact two pizza-factories. One Big One pizza-factory (The pizzas produced on this factory are being sold as ‘Big One’ pizzas in Norway, and as ‘Grandiosa Big One’ in Sweden and Finland), and one Grandiosa pizza-factory (The pizzas being produced here are only sold in Norway and Finland).

    The two pizza-factories, in the remote West-Norwegian municipality of Stranda, are being run completely separatly, and each of them have got their own separate pizza-bread bakery.

    These facts has led to that there have been questions raised, regarding the contence of the pizzas produced at the Stabburet Grandiosa pizza-factory in Stranda, since these pizzas are not being sold at all in eighter Sweden or Denmark, even if they are, by far, the most sold frozen pizza-types in Norway, and are also being sold in large quantities in Finland.

    (This is being shown in the thread from the TV2 Nettavisen’s message-board, Veggavisen, refered to above).

    [edit] References
    ^ Sverre Bjørstad Graff (2002-07-01). Grandiosa – den store testen! (Norwegian). Retrieved on 2006-10-14.
    ^ Joakim Thorkildsen (2006-03-14). 300 000 har lastet ned Grandiosa-låt (Norwegian). Retrieved on 2006-10-14.
    ^ Stabburet. Merker og Produkter – Grandiosa (Norwegian). Retrieved on 2006-10-14.
    ^ Stabburet. Storhusholdning: Produktkatalog – Grandiosa Pizza 10x585g (Norwegian). Retrieved on 2007-12-01.
    ^ Stabburet. Ernæring og helse – Næringstabeller – Grandiosa (Norwegian). Retrieved on 2007-12-01.
    ^ Veggavisen. Kultur – Mat og drikke – Hvordan kjøtt er det i Pizza Grandiosa? (Norwegian). Retrieved on 2007-12-01.

    [edit] External links
    Grandiosa Norway
    Grandiosa Finland
    Grandiosa Sweden
    GrandiosaLANDs homepage
    Retrieved from “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiosa”
    Categories: Norwegian cuisine | Orkla Group | Frozen pizza brands

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    Doubt surrounding the binding-agent being used in the ‘pizza-meat’-mixture
    There is some doubt surrounding which binding-agent Stabburet is using in the ‘pizza-meat’-mixture (A mixture which is containing forthy percent meat from cattle, according to Stabburet).

    On one webpage, from the Stabburet website, it says that the binding-agent being used is soy-protein[4], while on another webpage, also on the Stabburet website, it says the the binding-agent being used is gelatine based on swine.[5]

    So it could seem like the company itself is a bit uncertain regarding which binding-agent that is really being used in the mixture.

    Also, more questions surrounding Pizza Grandiosa, have been brought up, in a thread, on the Norwegian online newspaper TV2 Nettavisen’s message-board ‘Veggavisen’.[6]

    It seems like there could be a small paradox, and maybe even a small mystery, surrounding the fact that many Grandiosa pizza-editions (including the famous and big-selling Grandiosa Orginal/Classic), all being produced on the Stabburet Grandiosa-factory in Stranda in Norway, are being sold in very large quantities in Norway and Finland, while they are not being sold in Sweden or Denmark at all.

    In Sweden and Denmark, only Grandiosa-editions produced on the Orkla-owned Procordia pizza-factory in Dalarna in Sweden, and on the Big One pizza-factory in Stranda in Norway, are being sold.

    In Stranda, there are in fact two pizza-factories. One Big One pizza-factory (The pizzas produced on this factory are being sold as ‘Big One’ pizzas in Norway, and as ‘Grandiosa Big One’ in Sweden and Finland), and one Grandiosa pizza-factory (The pizzas being produced here are only sold in Norway and Finland).

    The two pizza-factories, in the remote West-Norwegian municipality of Stranda, are being run completely separatly, and each of them have even got their own separate pizza-bread bakery.

    These facts has led to that there have been questions raised, regaring the contence of the pizzas produced at the Stabburet Grandiosa pizza-factory in Stranda, since these pizzas are not being sold at all in eighter Sweden or Denmark, even if they are, by far, the most sold frozen pizza-types in Norway, and are also being sold in large quantities in Finland.

    (This is being shown in the thread from the TV2 Nettavisen’s message-board, Veggavisen, refered to above).

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    Doubt surrounding the binding-agent being used in the ‘pizza-meat’-mixture

    There is some doubt surrounding which binding-agent, Stabburet is using in the ‘pizza-meat’-mixture (A mixture which is containing forthy percent meat from cattle, according to Stabburet).

    On this webpage, from the Stabburet website, it says that the binding-agent being used is soy-protein: http://produktkatalog.stabburet.no/eway/default.aspx?pid=226&trg=Main_4493&Main_4493=4577:16978::0:4573:1:::0:0 (Norwegian).

    While on this webpage, also from the Stabburet website, it says the the binding-agent being used is gelatine based on svine: http://www.stabburet.no/eway/default.aspx?pid=223&trg=Content_4407&Main_4320=4407:0:10,1238:1:0:0:::0:0&Content_4407=4330:15476::1:4410:2:::0:0&kwid=10,1238

    Så it could seem like the company itself is a bit uncertain regarding which binding-agent that is really being used in the mixture.

    Also, more questions surrounding Pizza Grandiosa, is being asked in this thread, from the Norwegian online newspaper Nettavisen’s message-board: http://forum.tv2.no/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=64&threadid=38257 (Norwegian).

    It seems like there could be a small paradox, and maybe even a small mystery, surrounding the fact that many Grandiosa pizza-editions (including the famous and big-selling Grandiosa Orginal/Classic), all being produced on the Stabburet Grandiosa-factory in Stranda in Norway, are being sold in very large quantities in Norway and Finland, while they are not being sold in Sweden or Denmark at all.

    In Sweden and Denmark, only Grandiosa-editions produced on the Orkla-owned Procordia pizza-factory in Dalarna in Sweden, and on the Big One pizza-factory in Stranda in Norway, are being sold.

    In Stranda, there are in fact two pizza-factories. One Big One pizza-factory (The pizzas produced on this factory are being sold as ‘Big One’ pizzas in Norway, and as ‘Grandiosa Big One’ in Sweden and Finland) and one Grandiosa pizza-factory (The pizzas produces here are only sold in Norway and Finland).

    The two pizza-factories in the remote West-Norwegian municipality of Stranda, are being run comletely separatly, and have even both got their own separate pizza-bread bakery.

    These facts has led to that there have been questions raised, regaring the contence of the pizzas produced at the Stabburet Grandiosa pizza-factory in Stranda, since these pizzas are not being sold at all in eighter Sweden or Denmark, even if they are, by far, the most sold frozen pizza-types in Norway, and are also being sold in large quantities in Finland.

    (This is being shown in the thread from the Nettavisen message-board, in the link above).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiosa

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    Bindemiddelet i ‘pizzakjøttet’ på Grandiosaen.

    Det er litt tvil rundt om Stabburet bruker soyaprotein eller gelatin basert på svin, som bindelmiddel i ‘kjøttblandingen’ (kjøttblandingen inneholder 40% storfekjøtt ifølge Stabburet).

    I denne linken, så står det at bindemiddelet er soyaprotein: http://produktkatalog.stabburet.no/eway/default.aspx?pid=226&trg=Main_4493&Main_4493=4577:16978::0:4573:1:::0:0

    Mens i denne linken står det at bindemiddelet er gelatin basert på svin: http://www.stabburet.no/eway/default.aspx?pid=223&trg=Content_4407&Main_4320=4407:0:10,1238:1:0:0:::0:0&Content_4407=4330:15476::1:4410:2:::0:0&kwid=10,1238

    Så det virker som om Stabburet selv ikke er sikre på dette.

    Det stilles også fler spørsmål rundt Pizza Grandiosa i denne tråden på Nettavisens debattforum: http://forum.tv2.no/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=64&threadid=38257

    Et lite paradoks og mysterium, kan det også ligge i at pizzaer fra Stabburets Grandiosa-fabrikk på Stranda, er storselgere i Norge og Finland, mens de ikke selges i det hele tatt i Sverige og Danmark.

    I Sverige og Danmark selger de kun Grandiosa-pizzaer produsert på den Orkla-eide Procordia pizzafabrikken i Dalarne i Sverige, samt fra Big One pizzafabrikken på Stranda.

    Det er nemlig to pizzafabrikker på Stranda. En Big One og en Grandiosa pizzafabrikk. De har til og med hvert sitt eget pizzabunn-bakeri.

    Dette har ført til at det har blitt stilt spørsmål ved inneholdet i pizzaene fra Stabburet sin Grandiosafabrikk på Stranda, siden pizzaer herfra, ikke selges i hverken Sverige eller Danmark, mens de i Norge er de mest solgte pizzaene, og de er også storselgere i Finland.

    http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiosa

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    Anbefalt av 0RE: ULOVELIG KEBABFABRIKK del II 12.11.07 17:24
    (Svar til: KyniskKaffir)

    cons
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    ”Det zzzzzzzzz refererer til har faktisk skjedd,riktignok med en liten rettelse.
    Faktum er at rundt år 2000 avdekket veterinærer fra Oslo Kommune dette. det ble foretatt prøver av diverse ingredienser fra ett lite gatekjøkken nær “Smuget” (en populær uteplass i oslo)Veterinærene fant sæd/ sperm rester i en mild kebab saus, dette stammet fra 6 forskjellige menn. Gatekjøkkenet ble drevet av folk med utenlandsk bakkgrunn, alle som jobbet der var også utenlandske.
    Grunnen til at de fant sæd/ sperm restene kun i mild kebab saus er som innehaveren etterhvert innrømte offentlig…”bare nordmenn vil ha mild kebab saus”…’.’.

    http://johncons-mirro…

    Egentlig fra disse linkene:

    http://www.google.no/…

    http://forum.tv2.no/f…

    Men det virker som om tråden i det første tilfelle, og posten i det andre tilfelle, har blitt fjernet i ettertid, enda jeg ikke har motatt noe melding om dette fra debattforumet.

    Kan det være slik at noen ønsker at dette problemet ikke skal tas opp?

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    cons
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    Ja, og nå dukket det jo opp en ny definisjon, på ‘Goy’ en annen tråd her.

    ‘koppe
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    Nå er det en kjent sak at enkelte jødiske tekster med vilje er blitt “oversatt” feil for å bli mer spiselige for kristene og andre vestlige jødene trengte støtte fra, ved at svært negative jødiske ord brukt om ikke-jøder er blitt sterkt moderert i oversettelsen. Så jeg vil nok tippe at hore/kveg er nærmere sannheten enn de andre “oversettelsene”. Uansett er vel “Goy” skjelden brukt som et komplement…

    Hvilket ord brukes oftest? Hvilket ord brukes oftest av de som ikke har noe å tjene på den ene eller andre oversettelsen?

    ————————-
    Angrep er det beste angrep.

    Redigert: 06/11/2007 kl 10:16 av koppe’.

    Ser jødene seg som opphevet over andre mennesker?

    Og da begynte vel jeg å bli litt skeptisk til hva Stabburet, (igjen!), bruker som tilsettingsstoffer i dette produktet da:

    Ja, så hvis jeg skulle gitt et generelt råd, så ikke spis Stabburet varer, og heller ikke varer som dem har norrøne logo-merker på, som Melange Margarin:

    (Som har en bukk på pakka, kanskje det bukken fra Peer Gynt, bukkerittet? (‘Peer du lyver’ osv? ikke godt å si NKL/Samvirke/Coop-butikkene da, de hadde jo også en margarin, som heter/het ‘Per’).

    Ja, jeg fant ikke bilde av pakka nå, men det er det samme.

    Det virker som om det er noe jødisk-kontrollert mafia opplegg, som putter masse ‘Goy’-tull i maten da.

    Uten at jeg vel skal gå i detalj, men det virker som om dem putter tullet i maten, i varer med norrøne merker og navn f.eks., Stabburet, Idun, Melange, ja jeg gidder ikke å ramse opp hele butikken.

    Men folk skjønner sikkert, det er noe sånn mafia greier som foregår, med at jødene har en agenda mor norrøne folk dvs. blonde da vel, og dreper dem i konsentrasjonsleire, og putter dem i maten osv.

    Dette er jeg helt sikker på nå, så nå bare sier jeg som jeg tror det er.

    Så skal jeg se om jeg finner linken da:

    Melange Margarin: et (potet) hode foran alle andre?

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    cons
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    For ta med et poeng til som jeg kom på.

    Jødene har jo ‘kosher’ mat, omtrent på samme måte som muslimene har mat som er halal og haram osv., er det vel.

    Så jeg søkte mer på kosher osv da, på Wikipedia:

    ‘The original prohibition of meat/dairy mixtures is found in three verses in the Torah, which identically state, “You shall not cook a kid in its mother’s milk,” (Ex 23:19, 34:26, Deut 14:21).[3] These verses are the ultimate basis for not eating meat and milk together. However, this requirement is much less restrictive than Rabbinic Judaism’s prohibition against all mixtures of milk and meat. Rabbinic tradition relies on the existence of an Oral Torah, which in this case maintains that all mixtures of milk and meat are intended by the verses.’.

    link

    Her står det jo at ‘You shall not cook a kid in its mother’s milk’.

    Altså, du skal ikke tilbrede et barn i sitt mors melk.

    Så man skal altså ikke tilbrede kua eller kveget, i produkter laget av kumelk da.

    Som jarlsberg-ost da.

    Det må vel være dette som er meningen da.

    Ja, her fant jeg mer og:

    ‘Milk products and meat products may not be eaten together in the same meal or cooked together. Jewish law thus mandates a set of ‘fence’ laws that prevent this from happening:

    cooking meat and milk together is prohibited, even if the resulting dish is not eaten;
    eating milk and meat together is prohibited even if they are not cooked together; and
    no benefit can be attained from such activity’.

    (samme link som ovenfor).

    Så jøder har vel ikke lov å spise pizza med både ost og kjøtt på uansett, hvis de vil holde seg til kosher-reglene, mener jeg.

    Så det tullet med det yiddishe ordet ‘Goy’ i den forrige posten, det kan bare glemme.

    Fordi det blir jo bare tull, siden jøder har jo ikke lov å spise Grandisa uansett, siden det ikke er kosher, så da blir det vel bare tull å blande in yiddishe ord da.

    Så jeg får heller se om jeg finner noe det går ann å spise, for å bli flinkere til å komme noen smartere ting å si, sånn at jeg slipper å skrive så mye tull hele tiden.

    Så beklager det.