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Stikkord: Gullik Gullikson (min farmors mors forster-far. Fant Traaen-skatten)

  • Det er visst ei som lager smykker, basert på den vikingskatten, (Tråen-skatten), som min oldemor Birgit Mogan, sin onkel/adoptivfar Gullik Gullikson Traaen fant, i Rollag, i sin tid. Det var artig

    smykker basert på skatt paint

    http://irollag.no/bedrift/gullsmed-eli-bjorge/

    PS.

    Her er mer om dette:

    mer om tråenskatten

    http://www.historieboka.no/GetFile.aspx/images/EPII_ID/4633/EPIT_ID/org

    PS 2.

    En slik figur, kalles visst, en ‘trikvetra’:

    en trikvetra

    https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trikvetra

    PS 3.

    Figuren ovenfor, har i tillegg, (til å være en triketra), tre ‘dråper/løkker’, så da blir det vel muligens, en ‘valknute’:

    valknute wiki

    https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valknute

    PS 4.

    Dette funnet, et visst unikt, i Norge:

    unik i norge

    http://www.historieboka.no/Modules/historiebok_tidsepoke_tema_artikkel.aspx?ObjectType=Article&Article.ID=1560&Category.ID=1143

    PS 5.

    At de fleste myntene, var tyske, kan kanskje tyde på, at dette var, en tysk handelsreisende, (eller noe i den duren), som var på et marked, (siden at Tråen betyr ‘nedtråkket plass’), og så grov ned skatten, og falt i elva muligens, (eller noe i den duren).

    Hvis ikke det var sånn, at det ikke fantes, noen egen myntproduksjon, i Norge, på den tida, (siste halvdel av 900-tallet da, og at det var vanlig, å istedet bruke, tyske/utenlandske mynter).

    Hm.

    Hvis ikke det var sånn, at Rollag skulle bli kristnet, og at noen derfor gjemte, disse ‘utenlandske/ikke-kristne’ tingene, siden at de kristne, muligens ikke likte, disse tingene, (av en eller annen grunn), da.

    Eller at disse tingene, ble gjemt, for skatte-futen.

    Hm.

    Så sånn er muligens det.

    Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

    Men men.

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS 6.

    Jeg har vært på viking-seminar osv., i England.

    Og sett viking-armbånd osv. der.

    Og de var det mer sølv i liksom, (vil jeg si).

    (Selv om mange av de var klemt flate).

    Så dette, (fra Rollag), blir som noe ‘krims-krams’, i forhold, (synes jeg, at det virker som).

    Det fra Rollag, virker mer intrikat/forseggjort liksom, når det gjelder sølvsmed-håndtverket, synes jeg.

    (Noe sånt).

    Så sånn er nok det.

    Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

    Men men.

    PS 7.

    Vikingskatten som jeg så, i England, er litt røffere og enklere, i stilen, (må man vel si), selv om dette kanskje kan være på grunn av, at den er, litt eldre:

    viking skatt england

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Huxley_Hoard_at_the_Museum_of_Liverpool_1.jpg

    PS 8.

    Sølvspenna fra Tråen-skatten, er muligens også, en slags valknute, (som er veldig intrikat):

    sølvspenna også en valknute

    http://www.historieboka.no/GetFile.aspx/images/EPII_ID/2907/EPIT_ID/org

    PS 9.

    Her er mer om dette:

    mer om valknute

    http://www.historieboka.no/Modules/article.aspx?ObjectType=Article&Article.ID=2354&Category.ID=1137

    PS 10.

    Gullek Gulleksson Toeiet (Gulleksrud) som fant skatten, (og vel da ble kalt Gullek Traaen), var fosterfar og onkel, til min oldemor Bergit/Birgit Tovsdatter Mogan:

    her er mer om tråen skatten

    http://johncons-mirror.blogspot.no/2010/01/na-ma-jeg-si-at-jeg-er-litt-stolt-her.html

  • Jeg sendte en ny e-post til Fargo Public Library


    Gmail – (no subject)



    Gmail

    Erik Ribsskog
    <eribsskog@gmail.com>



    (no subject)



    Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:32 AM


    To:
    Diane Briggs <DBriggs@cityoffargo.com>

    Cc:
    Melisa Duncan <MDuncan@cityoffargo.com>

    Bcc:
    wendy.wendt@gflibrary.com

    Hi, thank you for the e-mail. My great-grandmother’s foster-father, Gullik Gulliksen, was born on
    September 25th. 1836. He lived in America from 1869 to 1989, and worked as a farmer. He moved back to Norway from North Dakota, (it says in a Norwegian
    government file, which I found on the internet and attach). Your collegue, (Steve Hubbard), mentions a Gullick Gullickson in
    Gilby, (on Facebook). He wrote this: ‘I also checked some print publications in our North
    Dakota Collection.  I did find a Gullick Gullicksen in Grand Forks
    County but the surname was not Gullicksrud.  Gullick Gullicksen lived
    in Gilby, North Dakota (Grand Forks County, ND).’. I think this could be the same Gullik, (since Gullicksrud is the name
    of a farm in Norway, and he would probably just have used that when he
    lived at that farm, I guess). I understand it if you have a lot to do, and don’t have the time to
    find out more about this. But thanks anyway for the help! Best regards, Erik Ribsskog


    On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Diane Briggs <DBriggs@cityoffargo.com> wrote:
    > Good Morning,
    >
    >
    >
    > I’ve attached the document about Gillick Gulliksen (Gullikson) who was born
    > July 1850 and  lived in Primrose, Steel e, ND at the time of the 1990 US
    > census.  Hopefully this is helpful.  In the future we would appreciate it if
    > you could include the approximate  year of birth and or  any other
    > information that may help us identify the correct records.
    >
    >
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    >
    >
    > Diane Briggs – Reference
    >
    > Fargo Public Library
    >
    > 102 3 St N
    >
    > Fargo, ND
    >
    > dbriggs@cityoffargo.com
    >
    >


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    • Melisa Duncan


      Melisa Duncan



      Thank you for your recent inquiry to the City of Fargo’s Facebook page regarding your Great-grandmother Bergit. It was sent over to me at the Fargo Public Library. I (Steve Hubbard, librarian at Fargo Public Library) did not have any success with documenting your great-grandmother’s residence in North Dakota in the 1880’s. I used our library edition of ancestry.com and checked the censuses for 1880 and 1900 for Bergit, Levorsdatter, and Gulliksrud (the 1890 census was destroyed in a fire).  I also checked some print publications in our North Dakota Collection.  I did find a Gullick Gullicksen in Grand Forks County but the surname was not Gullicksrud.  Gullick Gullicksen lived in Gilby, North Dakota (Grand Forks County, ND). There is an 1885 Dakota Territory Census but it does not have a master index—you need to know which county to examine.  Wish I could have found more.
      Sincerely,  Steve Hubbard, librarian


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    • Erik Ribsskog


      Erik Ribsskog



      Hi,


      thanks very much for the reply!


      Just to specify about the names, my great-grandmothers name was:


      First-name: Bergit (also spelt Birgit).


      Last-name: Tovsdatter.


      Her foster-father:


      First-name: Gullik.


      Last-name: Gulliksen.


      Her foster-mother:


      First-name: Aase.


      Last-name: Levorsdatter.


      Her father, (also lived in America, according to the Rollag Bygdebok, (Rollag ‘County’-book), but I don’t know where exactly, unfortunately).


      First-name: Tov.


      Last-name: Pedersen.


      Her mother, (who also lived in America, according to the mentioned book), was sister of Gullek Gullekson.


      First-name: Jøran.


      Last-name: Gulleksdatter.


      It might well be, that you have found, the right Gullek Gullekson.


      Because ‘Gulleksrud’ is really the name of the farm he grew up on, in Rollag, in Norway, (so I should perhaps not have added that name), and ‘Gullekson’ is his last-name, (like on Iceland, they still have last-names like that, it means son of Gullek, so his name means: Gullek son of Gullek).


      I attach a scan from Rollag Bygdebok, (Rollag ‘Village-book’), where it says that Gullek Gulleksson was born in 1836.


      Is that the same birth-year as the Gullick in Gilby, I was wondering.


      Gullek later moved back to Rollag, Norway, and there he bought the farm Traaen, and changed his name to Gullek G. Traaen, (after the farm), and he found a viking-silver-treasure, on his farm, (a treasure named after the farm, and which is quite famous in Norway. I’ve sometimes wondered if he found it in America and brought it to Norway, but I guess you didn’t have any vikings in North Dakota. Bergits daugter Ågot, was my grandmother, (and almost like a mother to me, during my upbringing), but she never mentioned that her mother had lived in America, or that her foster-father found a well-known treasure. But there could have been other reasons, I guess).


      Thanks very much for the help with this.


      I’ve also sent an e-mail to Sons of Norway, in Fargo.


      But they haven’t replied yet.


      My father, (Arne Mogan Olsen), would sometimes go on quite long holidays to the USA, in the 1980’s.


      But when I went to Detroit, in 2005, (to have a look around in the USA), then I was just sent back to Europe, by the airport-police.


      But I should have known that my great grandmother had lived in North Dakota, then I could have explained that, to the airport-police.


      Then I would have been allowed to go on holiday, in the USA, i guess.


      I’ve found about this, (that Gullek Gullekson went to North Dakota), in the Norwegian National-librarty online archive.


      I can see if I find that file again here, and try to send it on Facebook.


      Thanks very much for the help!


      Best regards,


      Erik Ribsskog


      PS.


      For ‘the record’.


      I see that you use another name than your own, on Facebook.


      But I see that that person, works at the same library as you, (it seems).


      I saw that Fargo Public Library had a web-form contact-page.


      But I’m not that found of web-forms, since I think they don’t always send back a copy of the correspondence.


      So I thought I could try to write on Facebook.


      Hope this is alright!





    • Melisa Duncan


      Melisa Duncan



      Erik,
      Thank you for the additional details. I will pass this information along to Steve Hubbard who researched your inquiry.
       Your Facebook response came to my email as I am the one responsible for monitoring the Fargo Public Library’s social media.


      Sincerely,


      Melisa Duncan
      Community Relations Specialist
      Fargo Public Library
      102 3rd St. N.
      Fargo, ND 58102


      email: mduncan@cityoffargo.com
      Ph: 701-476-4076



    • Erik Ribsskog


      Erik Ribsskog



      Ok,


      that’s very fine.


      Thanks very much!


      Have a good day in America!


      Best regards,


      Erik Ribsskog


      PS.


      I hope you don’t have problems with the weather, that I read in an online newspaper, that wasn’t that fine, in North-America now.

    PS.

    Her er vedleggene:

    født 1836

    north dakota