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Stikkord: Jimmy Wales Wikimedia-foundation board-member

  • Jeg sendte en e-post til grunnleggeren av Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales, for jeg vet ikke hvem andre jeg skal sende til der







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    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>


    Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:51 PM





    To:

    jwales@wikimedia.org



    Hi,

    people are writing that I'm insane etc., on Wikipedia in Norwegian (bokmål).
    And they've also let a company, (Orkla), censor facts about the what a frozen pizza brand, (Grandiosa), contains, etc.

    The Norwegian admins don't take this seriously, they say that they have no responsible person, and the one who's answering me, (Fjeld), is just patronising me.
    So I've tried to send it to info@wikipedia.org, to see if they have a responsible person there.

    But they just send it back to Fjeld.
    I think that Wikipedia should have a responsible person somewhere, who can clean up things like this, but I can't find anyone.
    So I'm wondering if you could please help me find someone who are responsible for the content on Wikipedia Norwegian (bokmål).

    Thank you very much in advance for any help!
    Yours sincerely,
    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Wikipedia Info Team <info-no@wikipedia.org>

    Date: 2010/2/23
    Subject: Re: [Ticket#2010010610016951] Responsible person/Fwd: Complaint about the Norwegian Wikipedia/Fwd: Klage: Dette her er bare traka […]
    To: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Hei, Erik, og takk for din e-post.

    02/22/2010 15:59 – Erik Ribsskog wrote:

    > Altså,

    >

    > jeg vil ikke ha noe patronisering fra deg Fjeld.

    >

    > Hvis du ikke sender det til noen andre selv, så får jeg gjøre det.

    >

    > Med hilsen

    >

    > Erik Ribsskog

    >

    Det er det bare å gjøre.

    Med vennlig hilsen,

    Hans-Petter Fjeld

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  • Jeg tok også opp problemene på Norsk Wikipedia, i en annen Wiki irc-kanal, for admin-er

    Session Start: Mon Oct 05 01:06:06 2009
    Session Ident: #wikimedia-stewards
    03[01:06] * Now talking in #wikimedia-stewards
    03[01:06] * Topic is 'Wikimedia Stewards | For assistance, say "@steward + your request" – for really urgent help, say "!steward + your request" |  Permissions requests here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SRP | English Wikipedia oversight? email oversight-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Don't post private data in  the channel* | No public logging'
    03[01:06] * Set by Elfix on Wed Aug 12 22:37:55
    01[01:06] <john_cons> Norwegian Wiki-admin Flums wrote this: 'Det er ikke ønskelig fra Orkla Food (Stabburets eier) at du bidrar på artiklene om Pizza Grandiosa. [[Bruker:Flums|Flums]] 20. mar 2008 kl. 00:24 (CET), which translates to 'It's not wanted by Orkla Food (Stabburets owner) that you contribute on the articles about Pizza Grandiosa.
    [01:06] <+VVVBot> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bruker:Flums
    01[01:06] <john_cons> I wanted to whistleblow about this please. Link: http://no.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brukerdiskusjon:Johncons&diff=3498327&oldid=3498315
    [01:07] <Rjd0060> john_cons: You really should stop going on about this on IRC.
    01[01:07] <john_cons> ok, but where is the right place to deal with this?
    01[01:08] <john_cons> i've even sent e-mails to jimmy wales, but noone deals with this
    01[01:09] <john_cons> brb
    03[01:10] * kylu[afk] is now known as kylu
    [01:10] <NuclearWarfare> whatis no
    [01:10] <NuclearWarfare> Hmm
    [01:10] <NuclearWarfare> I would think that Norwegian Wikipedia has its own community
    [01:10] <+StewardBot> 06(bot) 03Jusjih changed user rights for UltraBot@mlwiktionary from 04(none) to 04bot, import with the following comment: 07[[Steward_requests/Bot_status]], 2009-09-27
    [01:10] <kylu> it does.
    02[01:10] * Andre_Engels (n=chatzill@wikimedia/andre-engels) Quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]")
    01[01:11] <john_cons> i've been banned on norwegian wiki, in connection with the incident i mentioned, so i can't bring it up there
    [01:12] <kylu> john_cons: You do understand that stewards have zero power to decide things like this, right?
    01[01:13] <john_cons> yes, that's alright, only asking for advice 🙂
    [01:13] <kylu> You're rather stuck with discussing the issue with that community.
    [01:14] <kylu> Jimmy makes no rules there, his "kingship" is limited to his position on en.wikipedia and other projects that claim him.
    01[01:14] <john_cons> it's not the grandiosa-stuff i want to discuss, it's the censorship i want to _whistleblow_ about, i'm banned from that community, like i explained, in conection with the incident i mentioned
    [01:14] <kylu> you've done that now, thank you.
    01[01:14] <john_cons> that's alright i just want to know how to go forward with whistleblowing in the global wiki community
    [01:14] <kylu> I understand you put that on your blog also.
    01[01:15] <john_cons> yes, ok, i'll wait for a while
    01[01:15] <john_cons> and see if something happens
    01[01:15] <john_cons> and let it rest for a while
    01[01:15] <john_cons> thanks for the advice
    01[01:15] <john_cons> bye!
    [01:15] <kylu> ciao.
    Session Close: Mon Oct 05 01:15:40 2009

  • Jeg skrev på Dagbladets kommentarsystem, om problemene jeg har hatt, når jeg har skrevet, på norsk Wikipedia

    dagbladet 1

    dagbladet 2

    http://www.dagbladet.no/2009/09/01/kultur/tekno/wikipedia/jimmy_wales/store_norske/7904762/

    PS.

    Her er en kommentar til, om sensuren på Wikipedia etc., som jeg skrev i samme link, som ovenfor:

    makta rår

    PS 2.

    Og her er enda en kommentar, (også fra samme link som ovenfor):

    makta rår

    PS 3.

    Nok en kommentar, fra samme link:

    administratorer samarbeider

    PS 4.

    Nytt slagord mot maktmisbruk, på Wikipedia:

    nytt slagord

  • Det her tror jeg er en ganske høyt på strå i Wikipedia-systemet, ifølge de på #wikimedia-ops. Men det er nok ikke han Wales, som jeg først trodde. (N)

    Session Start: Wed May 27 21:58:57 2009
    Session Ident: seanw
    [21:59] <john_cons> I was muted on wikipedia-no, just for talking there about wiki-stuff (that the son of a former minster, flums, tried to stop me from writing about a norwegian pizza brand, grandiosa, since one of his employers, stabburet, told him to stop me. another admin, Jeblad, then covered this up, explained it as a 'practical joke')
    [21:59] <john_cons> i try to bring up this case on wikipedia-no, but am just being muted
    [21:59] <john_cons> wondering what to do
    [22:32] <seanw> Okay
    [22:33] <seanw> I'd start by letting it lie a bit before going at it, and then talking to some of the high-ranking ops in the channel about the ban, explaining you won't do it again etc.
    [22:33] <seanw> If you really feel they are being unreasonable after that, you can e-mail me about it and I'll talk to them.
    [23:40] <john_cons> ok, i'll do that, thanks for the advice
    [23:40] <john_cons> you are Mr. Wales right, that I've contacted before about this?
    [23:41] <john_cons> i guess so, thanks again for the help! Bye!
    Session Close: Wed May 27 23:41:55 2009

  • StatCounter: Noen søker på ‘illuminati innad i wikipedia johncons’, på Google. (In Norwegian)

    StatCounter: Noen søker på ‘illuminati innad i wikipedia johncons’, på Google. (In Norwegian)


    PS.

    Ja, jeg har jo hatt problemer med enkelte Wikipedia-adminer, som har trakassert meg og sperret meg, på Wikipedia.

    Det var også snakk om noe sensurforsøk fra Orkla, som kan ha vært oppdiktet, eller ikke, hva vet jeg.

    Det er snakk om adminene HarryWad, Flums og KjetilR (Kjetil Ree).

    Og vel også Bombadil, mener jeg å husker.

    Jeg har rapportert alle disse adminene til Wikipedia Norge, og Wikipedia i USA vel.

    Og jeg har også sent e-post til Jimmy Wales, som vel var en av grunnleggerne, av Wikipedia.

    Men jeg har ikke fått noen til å ta ordentlig tak i denne trakasseringen.

    Så jeg får prøve å få litt mer fart på dette.

    Så det var bra du minnet meg på dette.

    Jeg skal se om jeg klarer å for eksempel få sendt noe brev om dette, til Wikipedia-grunnlegerne i USA.

    Vi får se.

    Med vennlig hilsen

    Erik Ribsskog

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    Erik Ribsskog

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    Re: [Ticket#2008082810001515] [Fwd: Fwd: Problems with censorship and threats at the Norwegian Wikipedia.]




    Wikipedia information team

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    Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:34 AM





    To:

    Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>



    Dear Erik Ribsskog,

    Thank you for your email.

    "Erik Ribsskog" <eribsskog@gmail.com> wrote:

    > Hi,

    >

    > thanks very much for your e-mail.

    >

    > But, it’s not the block, that I’m concerned about.

    >

    > It’s the censorship from a company.

    >

    > I don’t think Wikipedia, should allow censorship.

    >

    > (And also the bullying, from Wikipedia-users.

    >

    > I think it should be possible to report bullying, on Wikipedia.).

    >

    > Yours sincerely,

    >

    > Erik Ribsskog

    >

    Thank your for this information. We have made note of it.

    Yours sincerely,

    Joe Fumitaka

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    Erik Ribsskog

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    Re: [Ticket#2008082810001515] [Fwd: Fwd: Problems with censorship and threats at the Norwegian Wikipedia.]




    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>


    Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:21 AM





    To:

    Wikipedia information team <info-en@wikimedia.org>



    Hi,

     

    thanks very much for your e-mail.

     

    But, it's not the block, that I'm concerned about.

     

    It's the censorship from a company.

     

    I don't think Wikipedia, should allow censorship.

     

    (And also the bullying, from Wikipedia-users.

    I think it should be possible to report bullying, on Wikipedia.).

     

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

     


    On 8/30/08, Wikipedia information team <info-en@wikimedia.org> wrote:

    Dear Erik Ribsskog,

    Thank you for your email.

    Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> wrote:

    >
    >
    > ——– Original Message ——–
    > Subject:  Fwd: Problems with censorship and threats at the Norwegian
    > Wikipedia.
    > Date:  Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:03:44 +0100
    > From:  Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    > References:  <98e9940e0806281919r684968cxd2b6032b0a57aa4e@mail.gmail.com>
    >
    >
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I can't see that I've recieved any reply to this e-mail, so I'm trying

    > to send it again.
    >
    > Yours sincerely,
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog
    >
    > ———- Forwarded message ———-
    > From: *Erik Ribsskog* <eribsskog@gmail.com <mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com>>

    > Date: Jun 29, 2008 3:19 AM
    > Subject: Problems with censorship and threats at the Norwegian Wikipedia.
    >
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I've been in contact with some admins on the Wikipedia irc-channel,

    > regarding how to report problems,
    > on the Norwegian, and the English Wikpedia.
    >
    > The problems on the Norwegian Wikipedia are:
    >
    > – A big Norwegian company, named Orkla, tryed to censor what was written

    > on Wikipedia, according
    > to a Norwegian Wikipedia admin.
    >
    > – A wikipedia admin, used my nick, on the internet, to contact me, on my
    > discussion-page, even if
    > I only had used an ip-address, as a signature, at this date/time, since

    > I was new on Wikipedia.
    >
    > So I must have been 'tracked', by this admin, I reckon, which I think is
    > serious, and indicate, that
    > something is very wrong, with this admin, or the Norwegian Wikipedia.

    >
    > – On the English Wikipedia, I was the subject to a harassment/Street
    > theater operation, probably
    > organised by some government/mob, that didn't like what I was writing
    > about the Norwegian

    > 'Grandiosa'-pizza's, on the 'Pizza Grandiosa'-page, since I found
    > something about the contence
    > of these pizza's, that seemed like it was something wrong with the
    > content, of the food, so I

    > tried to add the facts regarding this, and then I was banned from the
    > English Wikipedia, so
    > I suspect that someone with an agenda must have been involved, since I'm
    > used to chatting
    > on irc, and being on the internet, for many years, without being banned,

    > almost at all, so
    > the term 'netiquette', isn't new to me at all, so I think that it is
    > probably something wrong here,
    > to cover up about the contence of the pizza's probably/possibly.

    >
    > The username I have been using on both the Norwegian and English
    > Wikipedia, is Johncons.
    >
    > I'll it should be more about the incidents mentioned on the two
    > different Wikipedia discussion-

    > pages.
    >
    > I'll also see if I can find, a link, to where the Norwegian Wikipedia
    > admin, claims that Orkla
    > wanted to censor Wikipedia.
    >
    > It was later claimed, by other Wiki-admins, no irc, that this was a

    > joke, but it seemed sincere,
    > to me, so I don't really think it was a joke, it wasn't in a cheerful
    > tone, or anything like this.
    >
    > Hope that you have the time to have a look at this!

    >
    > Yours sincerely,
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog
    >
    > PS.
    >
    > Here is more about the censorship incident, even if it is Norwegian,
    > unfortunatly, but I'm adding
    > it anyway:

    >
    > 'Det er ikke ønskelig fra Orkla Food (Stabburets eier) at du bidrar på
    > artiklene om Pizza Grandiosa. [[Bruker:Flums|Flums]] 20. mar 2008 kl.
    > 00:24 (CET)'.
    >
    > http://no.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brukerdiskusjon:Johncons&diff=3498327&oldid=3498315

    >
    >
    > <http://no.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brukerdiskusjon:Johncons&diff=3498327&oldid=3498315>

    >
    >
    >
    >

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    Erik Ribsskog

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    Problems with censorship and threats at the Norwegian Wikipedia.




    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>


    Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 4:03 AM





    To:

    jwales@wikimedia.org



    Hi,

     

    I can't see that I've recieved any reply to this e-mail, so I'm trying to send it again.

     

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Jun 29, 2008 3:19 AM
    Subject: Problems with censorship and threats at the Norwegian Wikipedia.
    To: jwales@wikimedia.org

     


    Hi,

     

    I've been in contact with some admins on the Wikipedia irc-channel, regarding how to report problems,

    on the Norwegian, and the English Wikpedia.

     

    The problems on the Norwegian Wikipedia are:

     

    – A big Norwegian company, named Orkla, tryed to censor what was written on Wikipedia, according

    to a Norwegian Wikipedia admin.

     

    – A wikipedia admin, used my nick, on the internet, to contact me, on my discussion-page, even if

    I only had used an ip-address, as a signature, at this date/time, since I was new on Wikipedia.

    So I must have been 'tracked', by this admin, I reckon, which I think is serious, and indicate, that

    something is very wrong, with this admin, or the Norwegian Wikipedia.

     

    – On the English Wikipedia, I was the subject to a harassment/Street theater operation, probably

    organised by some government/mob, that didn't like what I was writing about the Norwegian

    'Grandiosa'-pizza's, on the 'Pizza Grandiosa'-page, since I found something about the contence

    of these pizza's, that seemed like it was something wrong with the content, of the food, so I

    tried to add the facts regarding this, and then I was banned from the English Wikipedia, so

    I suspect that someone with an agenda must have been involved, since I'm used to chatting

    on irc, and being on the internet, for many years, without being banned, almost at all, so

    the term 'netiquette', isn't new to me at all, so I think that it is probably something wrong here,

    to cover up about the contence of the pizza's probably/possibly.

     

    The username I have been using on both the Norwegian and English Wikipedia, is Johncons.

     

    I'll it should be more about the incidents mentioned on the two different Wikipedia discussion-

    pages.

    I'll also see if I can find, a link, to where the Norwegian Wikipedia admin, claims that Orkla

    wanted to censor Wikipedia.

    It was later claimed, by other Wiki-admins, no irc, that this was a joke, but it seemed sincere,

    to me, so I don't really think it was a joke, it wasn't in a cheerful tone, or anything like this.

     

    Hope that you have the time to have a look at this!

     

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

     

    PS.

    Here is more about the censorship incident, even if it is Norwegian, unfortunatly, but I'm adding

    it anyway:

     

    'Det er ikke ønskelig fra Orkla Food (Stabburets eier) at du bidrar på artiklene om Pizza Grandiosa. [[Bruker:Flums|Flums]] 20. mar 2008 kl. 00:24 (CET)'.

     

     

     






  • E-mail to Jimmy Wales, Wikimedia foundation board-member/founder etc., 29/6/08.







    Google Mail – Problems with censorship and threats at the Norwegian Wikipedia.







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    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>



    Problems with censorship and threats at the Norwegian Wikipedia.




    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>


    Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:19 AM





    To:

    jwales@wikimedia.org



    Hi,

     

    I've been in contact with some admins on the Wikipedia irc-channel, regarding how to report problems,

    on the Norwegian, and the English Wikpedia.

     

    The problems on the Norwegian Wikipedia are:

     

    – A big Norwegian company, named Orkla, tryed to censor what was written on Wikipedia, according

    to a Norwegian Wikipedia admin.

     

    – A wikipedia admin, used my nick, on the internet, to contact me, on my discussion-page, even if

    I only had used an ip-address, as a signature, at this date/time, since I was new on Wikipedia.

    So I must have been 'tracked', by this admin, I reckon, which I think is serious, and indicate, that

    something is very wrong, with this admin, or the Norwegian Wikipedia.

     

    – On the English Wikipedia, I was the subject to a harassment/Street theater operation, probably

    organised by some government/mob, that didn't like what I was writing about the Norwegian

    'Grandiosa'-pizza's, on the 'Pizza Grandiosa'-page, since I found something about the contence

    of these pizza's, that seemed like it was something wrong with the content, of the food, so I

    tried to add the facts regarding this, and then I was banned from the English Wikipedia, so

    I suspect that someone with an agenda must have been involved, since I'm used to chatting

    on irc, and being on the internet, for many years, without being banned, almost at all, so

    the term 'netiquette', isn't new to me at all, so I think that it is probably something wrong here,

    to cover up about the contence of the pizza's probably/possibly.

     

    The username I have been using on both the Norwegian and English Wikipedia, is Johncons.

     

    I'll it should be more about the incidents mentioned on the two different Wikipedia discussion-

    pages.

    I'll also see if I can find, a link, to where the Norwegian Wikipedia admin, claims that Orkla

    wanted to censor Wikipedia.

    It was later claimed, by other Wiki-admins, no irc, that this was a joke, but it seemed sincere,

    to me, so I don't really think it was a joke, it wasn't in a cheerful tone, or anything like this.

     

    Hope that you have the time to have a look at this!

     

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

     

    PS.

    Here is more about the censorship incident, even if it is Norwegian, unfortunatly, but I'm adding

    it anyway:

     

    'Det er ikke ønskelig fra Orkla Food (Stabburets eier) at du bidrar på artiklene om Pizza Grandiosa. [[Bruker:Flums|Flums]] 20. mar 2008 kl. 00:24 (CET)'.