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    Another Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache, stated that she was not worried about negative ramifications the Israeli onslaught on Gaza might have on the way the Obama administration would view Israel. She said ‘You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable. What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America. In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel.

    Commenting on the latest Israeli one-directional onslaught against the Palestinians of Gaza Strip, the Israeli 10th TV channel has disclosed that the Israeli genocidal forces had used half of its air force and had launched at least 2500 air raids against Gaza Strip.

    The television military correspondent stated that the Israeli warplanes had dropped more than a thousand tons of explosives, including white phosphorous and DIME (Dense Inert Metal Explosive) bombs, during three weeks on the virtually unarmed densely populated 360 square Kilometers Strip.

    He added that the shells fired by tanks, artillery, gunboats, and infantry were not included in those fired by the air force.

    After a whole week of continuous air bombardments Israel sent in its elite foot soldiers; 30,000 of them, and called in 10,000 of its reservists. Armed with the latest weapons of mass murder, covered with an umbrella of free reigning air force, and accompanied with raining shells of heavy artilleries, they drove their tanks into the civilian towns murdering civilians and destroying every structure in their path.

    Living outside of Gaza one cannot fully understand the barbarity of this genocide especially when the Western media had barely covered any of its atrocity. To gain a slight idea of its enormity one should remember that, during the 6-days war of 1967, this same Israeli army was distributed on four fronts; Egyptian, Jordanian, Syrian, and Lebanese, and it was fighting regular armies. Now the whole brunt of this army is concentrated on a small strip against unarmed and untrained civilian population.

    Latest official count was 1350 murdered, 40% of them were children, and 5300 were injured; mutilated and amputated. It was reported that 80% of the injured were the victims of burning phosphorous bombs. More dead are being discovered under the rebels, and many seriously injured are expected later on to die.

    Israeli tanks had left several city blocks completely destroyed without any homes or structure standing. The tanks shelled homes and apartment towers. Due to the small size of Gaza Strip Palestinians had to build vertically. Many apartment towers went up 15-20 stories high with each story containing 6-8 apartments.

    A total of 20,000 buildings were completely or partially burnt and damaged. The UN has reported that more than 50,000 Palestinians are left homeless and are now crowded into 50 emergency shelters.

    An estimated of 50,000 more are living with relatives and in tents they erected on the ruins of their homes.

    The Israeli bombardment targeted everything in Gaza including government buildings, police headquarters, banks and business offices, the main university, 67 schools sheltering civilians, shopping centers and market places, factories, water, sewer, and electricity infrastructures, private homes and apartment towers and charity organizations.

    Farms, including their animals, were also targeted and hundreds of acres of crops and fruit groves were incinerated. Religious buildings, where civilians usually seek shelter, were specifically targeted. Israeli fighter planes had completely destroyed 41 mosques, and partially damaged 51 others. One church was also targeted. Even cemeteries were not spared; 5 of them were bombed.

    Although the Israeli army was given the exact GPS co-ordinates of every UN structure, as asserted by Christopher Gunness, the UNRWA spokesman, Israeli F-16 planes had repeatedly dropped phosphorous bombed on UN schools knowing very well that hundreds of civilians had taken shelter there. At least 45 children and women were burnt and murdered there.

    The UN headquarters in Gaza City was also hit with three, not just one, phosphorous bombs burning tons of humanitarian aid and food stuff. The fire kept on burning for three days. UN-flagged humanitarian convoy was also shelled killing one driver.

    Medical centers and paramedics were not spared. The Red Crescent Al-Quds hospital in Tal el-Hawa neighborhood was hit by Israeli shells and caught on fire. Other two hospitals; Al-Wafa and Al-Fata hospitals, were also shelled, leading the World Health Organization to express its deep concern about the serious implications of such bombardments. 16 other smaller health clinics and 16 ambulances were also damaged. Medics were targeted and prevented from helping the injured. Ten of them, including two doctors, were murdered.

    Media centers were particularly targeted. Local and international news reporters were prevented from entering Gaza. Those, who were able to enter, were directly targeted. The Al-Shuruq office tower housing several international and Arab media outlets was directly hit. Two cameramen working for Abu Dhabi TV were injured, while the offices of Reuters News Agency, Fox TV, Sky, and Al-Arabiya TV offices were damaged. Another raid had damaged the headquarter offices of Al-Resala newspaper.

    Similar to all their previous wars the Israeli soldiers had committed massacres against Palestinian unarmed civilians. They have used internationally banned weapons such as phosphorous bombs, DIME, and depleted uranium, as reported by international physicians, eyewitnesses, and military experts. Israeli soldiers had mutilated the bodies of their victims to instill terror in the hearts of people hoping they will leave Gaza. Israeli soldiers herded many families in one building using them as human shield, and then later on bombed the building on top of them. They shot civilians, mainly children, directly and at point blank. The bodies of some children were found shot several times; as many as 18 bullets in the body of a 12 years old girl, and 12 bullets in the body of her 2 years old sister.

    Israeli soldiers had wiped off whole Palestinian families. Al-Samuni family lost 11 members, Abu Aisha family lost 6, Batran family lost 6, al-Rayyan family lost 15 and al-Balousha family lost 5 sisters. Other families, too many to mention here, were either murdered or incinerated by the phosphorous bombs. The Israeli army has been carrying out a deliberate indiscriminate mass murder. During the first Intifada, 1987 – 1993, they murdered 1162 Palestinians. During the second Intifada, 2001- 2006, they murdered 5500 Palestinians. Now, in a short period of three weeks, they murdered 1350 Palestinians.

    This onslaught is a holocaust since the many tons of phosphorous bombs, dropped on Gaza cities, had burnt civilians to the bones, burnt their homes and buildings, and burnt their fields and crops. This is the holocaust that the Israeli Deputy Defense Minister, Matan Vilnai, had threatened Palestinians with when he stated: “the more Qassam fire intensifies and the rockets reach a longer range, they will bring upon themselves a bigger shoah (holocaust) because we will use all our might to defend ourselves.”

    One cannot help but wonder how could a group of people, who claim to be the victims of a holocaust, commit another holocaust against another nation. What is it that feeds, perpetuates and intensifies this Judaic genocidal spirit although all Arabs, including Palestinians, had offered these Zionist Jews many agreements of coexistence, peace and security? The answer comes through their media outlets, through the words of their scholarly educators, and through the teachings of their Rabbis.

    “All of the Palestinians must be killed; men, women, infants, and even their beasts” cries the religious opinion of Rabbi Yisrael Rosen, the director of the long-established Tsomet Religious Institute. He wrote that Palestinians are like the nation of Amalekites, who attacked the Israelite tribes led by Moses on their way to Jerusalem. He stated that the Lord sent down in the Torah a ruling that allowed the Jews to kill the Amalekites, and that this ruling is known in Jewish jurisprudence.

    The Torah states: “Annihilate the Amalekites from the beginning to the end. Kill them and wrest them from their possessions. Show them no mercy. Kill continuously, one after the other. Leave no child, plant, or tree. Kill their beasts, from camels to donkeys.” Rosen stated that Amalekites are not a particular race, but rather all those who hate and oppose the Jews; Christians and Muslims.

    Many leading Israeli Rabbis support Rosen’s views. Israel’s former Sephardic Chief Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu advocated carpet bombing of Gaza stating that “there is absolutely no moral prohibition against the indiscriminate killing of civilians during massive military offensive on Gaza” (The Jerusalem Post, 30 May, 2007). His son Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu amplified his father’s genocidal call stating: “if they don’t stop after we kill 100, then we must kill a thousand, then we must kill 10,000 and even a million”

    Many Rabbis had argued that Palestinians in Gaza are not innocent civilians and that during war time it is not individuals but nations the Israelis are fighting. (It seems that Hitler had adopted this Telmudic teaching when he persecuted all European Jews)

    Israeli educators, scholars, and politicians, openly, advocate the annihilation of all Palestinians. Dr. Nachum Rakover, a legal scholar, opined “They voted for killers and sent them to kill us. To call them (civilians) innocent is a tragic comedyS civilians are partners of the killers” Eli Yeshai, Israeli official in the Orthodox Shas party argued that “extermination of the enemy is sanctioned by the Torah” Many other politicians called for the need for “wiping off Gaza from the face of earth”, and “annihilating of every moving thing there.” The right-wing Israeli politician Avigdor Lieberman proposed nuking Gaza following the US example when it dropped the atomic bomb on Japan during WWII.

    This “ideology of annihilation” is by no means a minority opinion in Israel, but represents a mainstream in the Jews of Israel as well as Jews in the West (US). The popular attitude is “if it was right by God to order us to commit genocide during Biblical time, why can’t it be right to commit genocide now. Has God changed his mind?” Indeed, the Judaic god is a racist genocidal god.

    Watch and listen here to an example of how Israeli Jews are brainwashed and indoctrinated into the ideology of annihilation by their rabbis and scholars through Israeli media. Watch Max Blumenthal’s videotape of a group of messianic Orthodox Jewish Chabad-Lubavitch exhibit this ideology in NYC in January 11, 2009.

    The Israeli spokesman, Nachman Abramovic demonized Palestinian children stating “They may look young to you, but these people are terrorists at heart. Don’t look at their deceptively innocent faces, try to think of the demons inside each of them S I am absolutely certain these people would grow to be evil terrorists if we allowed them to growS would you allow them to grow to kill your children or finish them off right now? S honest and moral people ought to differentiate between true humans and human animals. We do kill human animals and we do so unapologetically. Besides who in the West is in a position to lecture us on killing human animals. After all, whose hands are clean?”

    Human animal mentioned by Abramovic refers to the Judaic religious belief that Jews are Gods chosen people; the elite and the pure-blooded, while all others (non-Jews, Goyim, gentiles) are animal souls incarnated into human bodies to serve the Jews. Killing a human animal is just a sport like hunting deer or birds.

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    There seems to be some problems in finding out where these quotes really are from:

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    Quoted comment by johncons: Where’s this quote from, by the way:

    “Another Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache, stated that she was not worried about negative ramifications the Israeli onslaught on Gaza might have on the way the Obama administration would view Israel. She said ‘You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable. What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America. In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel.”

    Is it from a newspaper or a TV-channel perhaps?

    Just wondering, thanks in advance if someone knows this!

    http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=You know very well%2C and the stupid Americans

    Sorry, I forgot that you were French.

    My mistake 🙂
    Posted 38 mins ago by “johncons” (R)

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    What I mean is that I think it should be like a proper link, when it’s on LiveLeak.

    I just wanted to post about it, on a Norwegian blog I have, so then I thought it would be a good idea, to have a link to where the quote was actually from.

    But I guess I have to try to search on Google a bit then.

    Thanks for the help with the ‘letmegooglethatforyou’.
    Posted 12 mins ago by “johncons” (R)

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    Like I studied computing, at the University of Sunderland, in 2004/05.

    And then we had a module, ‘Final Year Project’, where we learned about research and referencing.

    And according to what we were thought there, I can’t see that the quote above is being properly referenced to.

    I can only see a quote, and I can’t see anywhere were it’s explained where and when this was said.

    Just to try to explain.

    Sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

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  • LiveLeak: The British Police don’t seem to have any will to help, or protect, foreign citizens.

    • And I was also thinking about another incident.

      The murder of fireball-victim Monika Szmecht, in Liverpool, last year.

      Appearantly, she wasn’t given the protection she wanted, from the Merseyside Police, after contacting them:

      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2008/05/10/did-police-fail-the-fireball-murder-victim-monika-szmecht-100252-20889166/

      I question the will of the British Police, to help people that aren’t British, in Britain.

      I know this might be inpolite, me being a refuge, from Norway, I think I have to say.

      But I think this should be dealt with, to be honest.

      I think this is a serious problem.

      But maybe people in Britain don’t care that much, since it don’t affect them.

      And I can’t really go anywhere else, due to that I use to much time, on a lot of legal-cases at the moment, since I can’t seem to get my rights from eighter the Norwegian or British Government, after I’ve heard that I’m being followed by ‘the mafia’, in Norway, in 2003.

      So I can’t find enough time to use at work, so I due to economical reasons, I can’t really go anywhere.

      And I don’t know what’s going on in Norway, where I had to run from in 2005, since there was an organised mured atempt, on me.

      And I don’t know who it was, who tried to murder me, so I don’t think it’s smart of me to go back, before I know what’s going on there.

      And noone eighter in Norway or Britain, tells me anything about this.

      So I’m a bit stuck here.

      So that’s why I bring up the problems with the British Police etc.

      Just to try to explain.

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  • More from LiveLeak: It seems to me that I’m being bullied by the Governments of three countries.

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    Quoted comment by fozzy5000: i would be happy to be searched by police if it means that they are trying to keep gun and knife crime down. i got nothing to hide so why should i give a fuck if 2 mins of my time is waisted. its catch 22 for the cops if they serach too many ppl its harrasment and they get fucked over and if they dont search enogh ppl and someone gets stabbed then they have not donethere job well enough. i am pretty sure cops dont carry crystal balls so they just have to search as many ppl as possible to make sure they get the bad guys. if your inconvienienced then tough shit. rather that than be stabbed on a night out eh!


    Why don’t you move to china then. Here in the USA, I will do everything to protect the rights of myself, and my kids. It’s this kind of attitude that starts the cracks in the system, and next thing you know, you are living under martial law.

    You people have been scared into submission. I pity you all.


    so let me quess, your one of these retards that think we dont need a legal system, dont need cops and so on. are you fucking retarded or what. I have kids aswell and i would rather be stopped and searched and come away clean than see the police not want to stop and searches becasue they are worried some fucking pipsqeek like you is going to get offended that your human rights have been breached by someone that wants to make the streets a safer place for everyone. Its ppl like YOU that ruin our contries, not ppl like me.


    Well, here in America, we have something called probable cause, as well as illegal search and seizure. You brits gave that up years ago, along with your guns. No wonder GB is becoming a muslim state. In 10 years, all your crooked teethed women will be wearing burqas. LOL


    fuck probable cause. just get it over and one with, treat me nice but with saftey first in mind and i dont give a fuck. i got nothing to hide. and as for our crooked toothed women, at least our women have teeth and dont all weigh about half a ton. Crawl back into your hole and stfu. the prob with america is the fact that everyone is too scared to do fuck all about the crims as they are to scared of the repurcusions. here they just get on with it. Although i do agree that we are turning into a muslim state but hopefully something will happen and that will be sorted.


    So you miss or ignore the many stories about criminals getting shot by the ordinary folks over here.


    I probably shouldn’t write this, since I’m from Norway.

    But in Britain, the Police, chased a Brazilian through London, an on to the tube, where they executed him.

    And he was just a normal guy.

    So I’m not sure if everything is like it should be, with the Police here.


    He was not a normal guy, he was an illegal immigrant who refused to stop when armed police asked him to. He then ran onto a packed tube train where he could have set off an explosive device. The idiot who shouldn’t have even been here should’ve stopped when the police asked him to.

    This is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence. You seem extremely paranoid.


    If he wasn’t a normal guy, why did they let his family come over, and look at the murder-scene etc., like I saw on TV?


    A normal guy in Britain is a British citizen, the man in question was not. His family were invited because his death was a public relations disaster for the authorities.

    My point still stands; this is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence.


    I’ve thought more about this, in the mean-time, since you haven’t replied yet.

    Did the British Police, tell the Brazilian guys parents, when they were in London, that they thought it was ok to kill him, since he wasn’t a normal person, since he wasn’t a Brit?

    I don’t think they can have told them that, since they didn’t want to press charges, against the British Police.

    So I think something doesn’t add up here.


    I’m maybe being a bit inpolite, since I’m from Norway, writing about the incident, with the Brazilian guy, in London, who was executed on the tube.

    Since noone are answering my comment etc.

    But I’ve wondering about this.

    Could it have been like this, that the British Police, says in Britain, informally, like the person in this tread, that the Brazilian guy, wasn’t a normal person, eg. he wasn’t a Brit, so it was really ok for the Police to do a mistake and kill him.

    But what can the British Police have been telling his parents?

    Because, as I understood it, the only thing that this Brazilian guy did wrong, was not to stop, when some people in civilian clothing, asked him to.

    If some ‘goon’, or ‘hooligan’-looking people had asked me to stop, then I’m not sure, if I wouldn’t have done the same thing, and maybe thought that this was some football-hooligans, or something, and try to run for cover at the tube, to get away from them.

    And, still the Brazilian guys parents, didn’t want to prosecute, against the British Police, even after they executed their son, on the underground.

    If I’ve understood it right.

    Is it like this, that the British Police, are just f*cking everyone around, and are telling different lies, to the people in Britain, and to the victims familiy, and the Brazilian Government etc.

    Could it be, that this is why I’m not getting any help, from the Government in Norway, in my case, where I was chased by some people who wanted to kill me there, in 2005.

    And the Police here, refused to help me.

    And they didn’t help me with the problems at Aravato/Microsoft eighter, where it seemed to me, like there were some mob/mafia-network, that had infiltrated the company, and I think it seemed, controlled the Nordic women there etc.

    Could it be like this, that the British Police and Government, are so powerful, that they are just fucking Governments like the Brazilian and Norwegian Goverments around, and their citizens as well, if they are in Britain.

    I’m sorry if it’s inpolite of me to write this, since I am in Britain.

    But it’s just a thought that came to mind, if the Police and Government here, are good at manipulating other Governments and foreign citizens etc.


    I know I’m writing a lot here now.

    But just to try to explain a bit more.

    The reason that I’m writing about the problems with the British Police and Government, is that I’m having some problems, and that I am, a bit disapointed, with the Norwegian Police and Government.

    From living for some years in Britain, it seems to me, that if British citizens, are in problems, abroad, then they get help, from their Government, and also from normal people living in Britain.

    Where as myselv, I have to deal with a lot of buraucrats, in the Government, in Norway, when I’m trying to get my rights, when I have been chased from Norway, and when I’m trying to cooperate with the Government and Police in Norway, with finding out what it is, that has been going on, in Norway.

    Since I’m a law-abiding citizen, that has been studying and working all my life, and neven been a criminal.

    Even so, I find it impossible, to get my rights in Norway, to get to know what’s going on etc., after I overheard several times, in 2003 and 2004, that I was followed by ‘the mafia’.

    And after an attempted murder on me, on my uncles farm in Larvik, in Norway, in 2005.

    So I’m just trying to figure out, what it is, that is going on, since I can’t manage to get my rights, in Norway, since I am a Norwegian law-abiding citizen.

    So I understand that it’s maybe a bit hash of me, to attack the British Government, and Police, but I’ve also been f-ed around by them, and also by the American immigration control, in Detroit, in 2005.

    And I called FBI, at the American embassy in London, some weeks ago, and they refused to help me, with the problem that a hate-blog, with a lot of lies about me, has been set up, on Blogger.

    And Blogger and Google, aren’t answering my e-mails or letters.

    So I’d say that theres definatly something going on.

    And I feel a bit trapped in a corner here, being bullied by the Governments of three countries, so I get a bit irritated sometimes, and attack almost everything I see, since I’m being a bit much bullied sometimes, I think I have to say.

    So I’m sorry if I sometimes goes to far with these attacks.

    Sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

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  • LiveLeak: Are the British Government good at manipulating foreign Governments and citizens etc?

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    Quoted comment by fozzy5000: i would be happy to be searched by police if it means that they are trying to keep gun and knife crime down. i got nothing to hide so why should i give a fuck if 2 mins of my time is waisted. its catch 22 for the cops if they serach too many ppl its harrasment and they get fucked over and if they dont search enogh ppl and someone gets stabbed then they have not donethere job well enough. i am pretty sure cops dont carry crystal balls so they just have to search as many ppl as possible to make sure they get the bad guys. if your inconvienienced then tough shit. rather that than be stabbed on a night out eh!


    Why don’t you move to china then. Here in the USA, I will do everything to protect the rights of myself, and my kids. It’s this kind of attitude that starts the cracks in the system, and next thing you know, you are living under martial law.

    You people have been scared into submission. I pity you all.


    so let me quess, your one of these retards that think we dont need a legal system, dont need cops and so on. are you fucking retarded or what. I have kids aswell and i would rather be stopped and searched and come away clean than see the police not want to stop and searches becasue they are worried some fucking pipsqeek like you is going to get offended that your human rights have been breached by someone that wants to make the streets a safer place for everyone. Its ppl like YOU that ruin our contries, not ppl like me.


    Well, here in America, we have something called probable cause, as well as illegal search and seizure. You brits gave that up years ago, along with your guns. No wonder GB is becoming a muslim state. In 10 years, all your crooked teethed women will be wearing burqas. LOL


    fuck probable cause. just get it over and one with, treat me nice but with saftey first in mind and i dont give a fuck. i got nothing to hide. and as for our crooked toothed women, at least our women have teeth and dont all weigh about half a ton. Crawl back into your hole and stfu. the prob with america is the fact that everyone is too scared to do fuck all about the crims as they are to scared of the repurcusions. here they just get on with it. Although i do agree that we are turning into a muslim state but hopefully something will happen and that will be sorted.


    So you miss or ignore the many stories about criminals getting shot by the ordinary folks over here.


    I probably shouldn’t write this, since I’m from Norway.

    But in Britain, the Police, chased a Brazilian through London, an on to the tube, where they executed him.

    And he was just a normal guy.

    So I’m not sure if everything is like it should be, with the Police here.


    He was not a normal guy, he was an illegal immigrant who refused to stop when armed police asked him to. He then ran onto a packed tube train where he could have set off an explosive device. The idiot who shouldn’t have even been here should’ve stopped when the police asked him to.

    This is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence. You seem extremely paranoid.


    If he wasn’t a normal guy, why did they let his family come over, and look at the murder-scene etc., like I saw on TV?


    A normal guy in Britain is a British citizen, the man in question was not. His family were invited because his death was a public relations disaster for the authorities.

    My point still stands; this is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence.


    I’ve thought more about this, in the mean-time, since you haven’t replied yet.

    Did the British Police, tell the Brazilian guys parents, when they were in London, that they thought it was ok to kill him, since he wasn’t a normal person, since he wasn’t a Brit?

    I don’t think they can have told them that, since they didn’t want to press charges, against the British Police.

    So I think something doesn’t add up here.


    I’m maybe being a bit inpolite, since I’m from Norway, writing about the incident, with the Brazilian guy, in London, who was executed on the tube.

    Since noone are answering my comment etc.

    But I’ve wondering about this.

    Could it have been like this, that the British Police, says in Britain, informally, like the person in this tread, that the Brazilian guy, wasn’t a normal person, eg. he wasn’t a Brit, so it was really ok for the Police to do a mistake and kill him.

    But what can the British Police have been telling his parents?

    Because, as I understood it, the only thing that this Brazilian guy did wrong, was not to stop, when some people in civilian clothing, asked him to.

    If some ‘goon’, or ‘hooligan’-looking people had asked me to stop, then I’m not sure, if I wouldn’t have done the same thing, and maybe thought that this was some football-hooligans, or something, and try to run for cover at the tube, to get away from them.

    And, still the Brazilian guys parents, didn’t want to prosecute, against the British Police, even after they executed their son, on the underground.

    If I’ve understood it right.

    Is it like this, that the British Police, are just f*cking everyone around, and are telling different lies, to the people in Britain, and to the victims familiy, and the Brazilian Government etc.

    Could it be, that this is why I’m not getting any help, from the Government in Norway, in my case, where I was chased by some people who wanted to kill me there, in 2005.

    And the Police here, refused to help me.

    And they didn’t help me with the problems at Aravato/Microsoft eighter, where it seemed to me, like there were some mob/mafia-network, that had infiltrated the company, and I think it seemed, controlled the Nordic women there etc.

    Could it be like this, that the British Police and Government, are so powerful, that they are just fucking Governments like the Brazilian and Norwegian Goverments around, and their citizens as well, if they are in Britain.

    I’m sorry if it’s inpolite of me to write this, since I am in Britain.

    But it’s just a thought that came to mind, if the Police and Government here, are good at manipulating other Governments and foreign citizens etc.

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    Quoted comment by fozzy5000: i would be happy to be searched by police if it means that they are trying to keep gun and knife crime down. i got nothing to hide so why should i give a fuck if 2 mins of my time is waisted. its catch 22 for the cops if they serach too many ppl its harrasment and they get fucked over and if they dont search enogh ppl and someone gets stabbed then they have not donethere job well enough. i am pretty sure cops dont carry crystal balls so they just have to search as many ppl as possible to make sure they get the bad guys. if your inconvienienced then tough shit. rather that than be stabbed on a night out eh!


    Why don’t you move to china then. Here in the USA, I will do everything to protect the rights of myself, and my kids. It’s this kind of attitude that starts the cracks in the system, and next thing you know, you are living under martial law.

    You people have been scared into submission. I pity you all.


    so let me quess, your one of these retards that think we dont need a legal system, dont need cops and so on. are you fucking retarded or what. I have kids aswell and i would rather be stopped and searched and come away clean than see the police not want to stop and searches becasue they are worried some fucking pipsqeek like you is going to get offended that your human rights have been breached by someone that wants to make the streets a safer place for everyone. Its ppl like YOU that ruin our contries, not ppl like me.


    Well, here in America, we have something called probable cause, as well as illegal search and seizure. You brits gave that up years ago, along with your guns. No wonder GB is becoming a muslim state. In 10 years, all your crooked teethed women will be wearing burqas. LOL


    fuck probable cause. just get it over and one with, treat me nice but with saftey first in mind and i dont give a fuck. i got nothing to hide. and as for our crooked toothed women, at least our women have teeth and dont all weigh about half a ton. Crawl back into your hole and stfu. the prob with america is the fact that everyone is too scared to do fuck all about the crims as they are to scared of the repurcusions. here they just get on with it. Although i do agree that we are turning into a muslim state but hopefully something will happen and that will be sorted.


    So you miss or ignore the many stories about criminals getting shot by the ordinary folks over here.


    I probably shouldn’t write this, since I’m from Norway.

    But in Britain, the Police, chased a Brazilian through London, an on to the tube, where they executed him.

    And he was just a normal guy.

    So I’m not sure if everything is like it should be, with the Police here.


    He was not a normal guy, he was an illegal immigrant who refused to stop when armed police asked him to. He then ran onto a packed tube train where he could have set off an explosive device. The idiot who shouldn’t have even been here should’ve stopped when the police asked him to.

    This is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence. You seem extremely paranoid.


    If he wasn’t a normal guy, why did they let his family come over, and look at the murder-scene etc., like I saw on TV?


    A normal guy in Britain is a British citizen, the man in question was not. His family were invited because his death was a public relations disaster for the authorities.

    My point still stands; this is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence.


    I’ve thought more about this, in the mean-time, since you haven’t replied yet.

    Did the British Police, tell the Brazilian guys parents, when they were in London, that they thought it was ok to kill him, since he wasn’t a normal person, since he wasn’t a Brit?

    I don’t think they can have told them that, since they didn’t want to press charges, against the British Police.

    So I think something doesn’t add up here.

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    Zero tolerance for walking on the pavement?


    It sometimes depends on the area or even it could be down to a particular street or road, certain restricted zones will not allow more than two youths wether it be male or female to hang around, i think the police must have had reason to search these girls, but without any more facts it is difficult to say. Just because they are girls does not mean that they are incapable of committing an offence, some girls that i know from the Liverpool are worse than the lads.


    Well, this was in Dale St., in the center of Liverpool.

    Not far from the Town Hall, and Matthew St., and the discos etc.

    And these people, were just normal people walking on the pavemant, as I could see.

    And they said that the police just frisked everyone.

    I’ve overheard people saying this earlier as well, in Dale St, in the Spar shop, on a Saturday evening.

    That they were just brought in to a Police-car, and had never seen Police like that.

    Seemed like ordinary people going out to me, on both occations.

    The girls, who had got their bags looked through by the Police, acted polite.

    I was maybe a bit inpolite, in asking them why the Police looked through their stuff, but it was a Saturday night, and I was a bit curious.

    Then one of them explained, that the Police just ‘frisked everone’, and the otherone complained, to the first one, that she was getting a headache, I think she said, so I don’t think these girls acted like criminals.

    So I thought this was a bit akward.

    Is it ok for the Police to stop, and frisk, people who are just walking on the pavement.

    In Norway, where I’m from.

    I worked a lot, as a shop-manager, in Norway.

    And I lived in a small flat, which I rented from my employer, (Rimi/Ica), and the fridge didn’t work, and they didn’t want to change it.

    So before I got to buy a new fridge, then I sometimes, used to drive, to a petrol-station etc., at night, to buy a snack, or some food.

    And then the Police in Oslo, would stop you, for no reason at all.

    And ask for your drivers-licence, and once when I was tired from work, then they asked me to go out of the car, to look at my pupils etc.

    They must have thought I was a criminal or something, when all I did, was to drive to 7-eleven, to buy some food etc., or I drove my brother home, once, when he had been visiting me.

    And then for no reason at all, the Police are going drive behind you, and ask you to stop.

    They call it ‘rutine kontroll’, thats ‘routine-control’.

    So it’s maybe so, that the Police in eighter Norway or Britain, don’t need any reason, to stop you, and go through your stuff, or your car etc.

    It’s not in America, I guess, where the Police aren’t allowed to just stop people walking on the pavement, or just driving a car, if I’ve understood it right, that is.


    It sounds by what you have described that the police seemed to be looking for something in particular, possibly they had information whereas they deemed it necessary to stop and search, and i am pretty certain that they have the authority to stop and search anybody they choose as long as they have just cause to do so. but i still think that they need the persons permission to do so.

    I suppose as you stated the routine control in Oslo must be a similar variation of upholding the law as to what you witnessed in Liverpool.

    It does appear unfair from your point of view i suppose, but have you lived in the Liverpool area for a while, or are you fairly new to the area, because once you understand the people and the area you will soon become accustomed to why the police act this way, as it is normally a case of they are normally searching for drugs and weapons, and in Liverpool both drugs and weapons are usually high profile causes. I don’t know wether this information helps you in anyway to understand why the police do a stop and search, but i do hope it will assist you in some way.


    Yes,

    that’s what I meant, that in Norway, you can be stoped by the Police, for driving on the street, and in Britain you can be stoped by the Police, for walking on the pavement, where as, in America, the Police can’t stop you, without ‘probable cause’, or something similar.

    I was just reflecting a bit around this.

    But now it’s clear to me, that the UK police, don’t need probable cause, to frisk someone.

    So thanks very much for help with finding out about that!

    I walked around the block, and then I saw the same two Police-officers standing outside of the discos in Eberle St., I think that lane is called.

    So I don’t think they were on some mission of any kind, other than to patrol the streets, on a Saturday night.

    And the girls said that they just ‘frisked everyone’.

    And I haven’t the police act like this, in other cities.

    It was also the incident, in Matthew St., a couple of months ago, that I posted about, a couple of weeks ago, when I first heard of this site.

    I’ve been living in Liverpool, for three years now, in Walton, and in the city centre, and I think normal people usually behave very polite and fine here.

    I can’t remember seeing a single fight, when I’ve been going out.

    I think the guns and that, is more in the suburbs in Liverpool?

    I can’t remember hearing of any shooting-incidents, in the city center of Liverpool.

    So I think the way the police in this city acts, is a bit strange, from having lived in Oslo for many years, and also in Sunderland.

    In the incident in Matthew St., it looked like the police were practically raping the girl.

    (Look at the post I posted some weeks ago).

    And in the link to the case I have against Arvato/Microsoft, there one can see, that the Merseyside Police, call me ‘Miss Erik Ribsskog’, and they also lied, and said that the Citizens Advice Bureaux, was Government, when it’s a charity.

    And they are having phoney e-mail-adresses, and are acting at bullies, in the meetings etc, I’d say.

    So I’m not that convinced about the Merseyside Police, so that’s why I’m posting about these incidents.

    Thanks again for the information about the British Police in your comment!

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    Zero tolerance for walking on the pavement?


    It sometimes depends on the area or even it could be down to a particular street or road, certain restricted zones will not allow more than two youths wether it be male or female to hang around, i think the police must have had reason to search these girls, but without any more facts it is difficult to say. Just because they are girls does not mean that they are incapable of committing an offence, some girls that i know from the Liverpool are worse than the lads.


    Well, this was in Dale St., in the center of Liverpool.

    Not far from the Town Hall, and Matthew St., and the discos etc.

    And these people, were just normal people walking on the pavemant, as I could see.

    And they said that the police just frisked everyone.

    I’ve overheard people saying this earlier as well, in Dale St, in the Spar shop, on a Saturday evening.

    That they were just brought in to a Police-car, and had never seen Police like that.

    Seemed like ordinary people going out to me, on both occations.

    The girls, who had got their bags looked through by the Police, acted polite.

    I was maybe a bit inpolite, in asking them why the Police looked through their stuff, but it was a Saturday night, and I was a bit curious.

    Then one of them explained, that the Police just ‘frisked everone’, and the otherone complained, to the first one, that she was getting a headache, I think she said, so I don’t think these girls acted like criminals.

    So I thought this was a bit akward.

    Is it ok for the Police to stop, and frisk, people who are just walking on the pavement.

    In Norway, where I’m from.

    I worked a lot, as a shop-manager, in Norway.

    And I lived in a small flat, which I rented from my employer, (Rimi/Ica), and the fridge didn’t work, and they didn’t want to change it.

    So before I got to buy a new fridge, then I sometimes, used to drive, to a petrol-station etc., at night, to buy a snack, or some food.

    And then the Police in Oslo, would stop you, for no reason at all.

    And ask for your drivers-licence, and once when I was tired from work, then they asked me to go out of the car, to look at my pupils etc.

    They must have thought I was a criminal or something, when all I did, was to drive to 7-eleven, to buy some food etc., or I drove my brother home, once, when he had been visiting me.

    And then for no reason at all, the Police are going drive behind you, and ask you to stop.

    They call it ‘rutine kontroll’, thats ‘routine-control’.

    So it’s maybe so, that the Police in eighter Norway or Britain, don’t need any reason, to stop you, and go through your stuff, or your car etc.

    It’s not in America, I guess, where the Police aren’t allowed to just stop people walking on the pavement, or just driving a car, if I’ve understood it right, that is.


    It sounds by what you have described that the police seemed to be looking for something in particular, possibly they had information whereas they deemed it necessary to stop and search, and i am pretty certain that they have the authority to stop and search anybody they choose as long as they have just cause to do so. but i still think that they need the persons permission to do so.

    I suppose as you stated the routine control in Oslo must be a similar variation of upholding the law as to what you witnessed in Liverpool.

    It does appear unfair from your point of view i suppose, but have you lived in the Liverpool area for a while, or are you fairly new to the area, because once you understand the people and the area you will soon become accustomed to why the police act this way, as it is normally a case of they are normally searching for drugs and weapons, and in Liverpool both drugs and weapons are usually high profile causes. I don’t know wether this information helps you in anyway to understand why the police do a stop and search, but i do hope it will assist you in some way.


    Yes,

    that’s what I meant, that in Norway, you can be stoped by the Police, for driving on the street, and in Britain you can be stoped by the Police, for walking on the pavement, where as, in America, the Police can’t stop you, without ‘probable cause’, or something similar.

    I was just reflecting a bit around this.

    But now it’s clear to me, that the UK police, don’t need probable cause, to frisk someone.

    So thanks very much for help with finding out about that!

    I walked around the block, and then I saw the same two Police-officers standing outside of the discos in Eberle St., I think that lane is called.

    So I don’t think they were on some mission of any kind, other than to patrol the streets, on a Saturday night.

    And the girls said that they just ‘frisked everyone’.

    And I haven’t the police act like this, in other cities.

    It was also the incident, in Matthew St., a couple of months ago, that I posted about, a couple of weeks ago, when I first heard of this site.

    I’ve been living in Liverpool, for three years now, in Walton, and in the city centre, and I think normal people usually behave very polite and fine here.

    I can’t remember seeing a single fight, when I’ve been going out.

    I think the guns and that, is more in the suburbs in Liverpool?

    I can’t remember hearing of any shooting-incidents, in the city center of Liverpool.

    So I think the way the police in this city acts, is a bit strange, from having lived in Oslo for many years, and also in Sunderland.

    In the incident in Matthew St., it looked like the police were practically raping the girl.

    (Look at the post I posted some weeks ago).

    And in the link to the case I have against Arvato/Microsoft, there one can see, that the Merseyside Police, call me ‘Miss Erik Ribsskog’, and they also lied, and said that the Citizens Advice Bureaux, was Government, when it’s a charity.

    And they are having phoney e-mail-adresses, and are acting at bullies, in the meetings etc, I’d say.

    So I’m not that convinced about the Merseyside Police, so that’s why I’m posting about these incidents.

    Thanks again for the information about the British Police in your comment!


    No problem mate you are welcome.

    Take care.

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    Quoted comment by fozzy5000: i would be happy to be searched by police if it means that they are trying to keep gun and knife crime down. i got nothing to hide so why should i give a fuck if 2 mins of my time is waisted. its catch 22 for the cops if they serach too many ppl its harrasment and they get fucked over and if they dont search enogh ppl and someone gets stabbed then they have not donethere job well enough. i am pretty sure cops dont carry crystal balls so they just have to search as many ppl as possible to make sure they get the bad guys. if your inconvienienced then tough shit. rather that than be stabbed on a night out eh!


    Why don’t you move to china then. Here in the USA, I will do everything to protect the rights of myself, and my kids. It’s this kind of attitude that starts the cracks in the system, and next thing you know, you are living under martial law.

    You people have been scared into submission. I pity you all.


    so let me quess, your one of these retards that think we dont need a legal system, dont need cops and so on. are you fucking retarded or what. I have kids aswell and i would rather be stopped and searched and come away clean than see the police not want to stop and searches becasue they are worried some fucking pipsqeek like you is going to get offended that your human rights have been breached by someone that wants to make the streets a safer place for everyone. Its ppl like YOU that ruin our contries, not ppl like me.


    Well, here in America, we have something called probable cause, as well as illegal search and seizure. You brits gave that up years ago, along with your guns. No wonder GB is becoming a muslim state. In 10 years, all your crooked teethed women will be wearing burqas. LOL


    fuck probable cause. just get it over and one with, treat me nice but with saftey first in mind and i dont give a fuck. i got nothing to hide. and as for our crooked toothed women, at least our women have teeth and dont all weigh about half a ton. Crawl back into your hole and stfu. the prob with america is the fact that everyone is too scared to do fuck all about the crims as they are to scared of the repurcusions. here they just get on with it. Although i do agree that we are turning into a muslim state but hopefully something will happen and that will be sorted.


    So you miss or ignore the many stories about criminals getting shot by the ordinary folks over here.


    I probably shouldn’t write this, since I’m from Norway.

    But in Britain, the Police, chased a Brazilian through London, an on to the tube, where they executed him.

    And he was just a normal guy.

    So I’m not sure if everything is like it should be, with the Police here.


    He was not a normal guy, he was an illegal immigrant who refused to stop when armed police asked him to. He then ran onto a packed tube train where he could have set off an explosive device. The idiot who shouldn’t have even been here should’ve stopped when the police asked him to.

    This is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence. You seem extremely paranoid.


    If he wasn’t a normal guy, why did they let his family come over, and look at the murder-scene etc., like I saw on TV?


    A normal guy in Britain is a British citizen, the man in question was not. His family were invited because his death was a public relations disaster for the authorities.

    My point still stands; this is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence.


    You make it sound like it’s ok for the Police to occationally execute some normal people on the tube if they aren’t British citizens.

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    Why don’t you move to china then. Here in the USA, I will do everything to protect the rights of myself, and my kids. It’s this kind of attitude that starts the cracks in the system, and next thing you know, you are living under martial law.

    You people have been scared into submission. I pity you all.


    so let me quess, your one of these retards that think we dont need a legal system, dont need cops and so on. are you fucking retarded or what. I have kids aswell and i would rather be stopped and searched and come away clean than see the police not want to stop and searches becasue they are worried some fucking pipsqeek like you is going to get offended that your human rights have been breached by someone that wants to make the streets a safer place for everyone. Its ppl like YOU that ruin our contries, not ppl like me.


    Well, here in America, we have something called probable cause, as well as illegal search and seizure. You brits gave that up years ago, along with your guns. No wonder GB is becoming a muslim state. In 10 years, all your crooked teethed women will be wearing burqas. LOL


    fuck probable cause. just get it over and one with, treat me nice but with saftey first in mind and i dont give a fuck. i got nothing to hide. and as for our crooked toothed women, at least our women have teeth and dont all weigh about half a ton. Crawl back into your hole and stfu. the prob with america is the fact that everyone is too scared to do fuck all about the crims as they are to scared of the repurcusions. here they just get on with it. Although i do agree that we are turning into a muslim state but hopefully something will happen and that will be sorted.


    So you miss or ignore the many stories about criminals getting shot by the ordinary folks over here.


    I probably shouldn’t write this, since I’m from Norway.

    But in Britain, the Police, chased a Brazilian through London, an on to the tube, where they executed him.

    And he was just a normal guy.

    So I’m not sure if everything is like it should be, with the Police here.


    He was not a normal guy, he was an illegal immigrant who refused to stop when armed police asked him to. He then ran onto a packed tube train where he could have set off an explosive device. The idiot who shouldn’t have even been here should’ve stopped when the police asked him to.

    This is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence. You seem extremely paranoid.


    If he wasn’t a normal guy, why did they let his family come over, and look at the murder-scene etc., like I saw on TV?


    A normal guy in Britain is a British citizen, the man in question was not. His family were invited because his death was a public relations disaster for the authorities.

    My point still stands; this is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence.


    You make it sound like it’s ok for the Police to occationally execute some normal people on the tube if they aren’t British citizens.


    I’m beginning to understand why I’m just being f*cked around by the British Police, it’s because I’m from Norway, and not a British Citizen.

    And the Norwegian Government, is f*cking me around as well.

    It doesn’t seem like the Government in eighter Norway or Britain have any respect for peoples rights.

    That’s my view at least, after what has been going on.

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    Quoted comment by japapadex: It is possible that they might be searching for drugs, or it could be a high risk area whereas they will just stop and search anybody. Zero tolerance is very much in force in the merseyside area.


    Zero tolerance for walking on the pavement?


    It sometimes depends on the area or even it could be down to a particular street or road, certain restricted zones will not allow more than two youths wether it be male or female to hang around, i think the police must have had reason to search these girls, but without any more facts it is difficult to say. Just because they are girls does not mean that they are incapable of committing an offence, some girls that i know from the Liverpool are worse than the lads.


    Well, this was in Dale St., in the center of Liverpool.

    Not far from the Town Hall, and Matthew St., and the discos etc.

    And these people, were just normal people walking on the pavemant, as I could see.

    And they said that the police just frisked everyone.

    I’ve overheard people saying this earlier as well, in Dale St, in the Spar shop, on a Saturday evening.

    That they were just brought in to a Police-car, and had never seen Police like that.

    Seemed like ordinary people going out to me, on both occations.

    The girls, who had got their bags looked through by the Police, acted polite.

    I was maybe a bit inpolite, in asking them why the Police looked through their stuff, but it was a Saturday night, and I was a bit curious.

    Then one of them explained, that the Police just ‘frisked everone’, and the otherone complained, to the first one, that she was getting a headache, I think she said, so I don’t think these girls acted like criminals.

    So I thought this was a bit akward.

    Is it ok for the Police to stop, and frisk, people who are just walking on the pavement.

    In Norway, where I’m from.

    I worked a lot, as a shop-manager, in Norway.

    And I lived in a small flat, which I rented from my employer, (Rimi/Ica), and the fridge didn’t work, and they didn’t want to change it.

    So before I got to buy a new fridge, then I sometimes, used to drive, to a petrol-station etc., at night, to buy a snack, or some food.

    And then the Police in Oslo, would stop you, for no reason at all.

    And ask for your drivers-licence, and once when I was tired from work, then they asked me to go out of the car, to look at my pupils etc.

    They must have thought I was a criminal or something, when all I did, was to drive to 7-eleven, to buy some food etc., or I drove my brother home, once, when he had been visiting me.

    And then for no reason at all, the Police are going drive behind you, and ask you to stop.

    They call it ‘rutine kontroll’, thats ‘routine-control’.

    So it’s maybe so, that the Police in eighter Norway or Britain, don’t need any reason, to stop you, and go through your stuff, or your car etc.

    It’s not in America, I guess, where the Police aren’t allowed to just stop people walking on the pavement, or just driving a car, if I’ve understood it right, that is.

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    Why don’t you move to china then. Here in the USA, I will do everything to protect the rights of myself, and my kids. It’s this kind of attitude that starts the cracks in the system, and next thing you know, you are living under martial law.

    You people have been scared into submission. I pity you all.


    so let me quess, your one of these retards that think we dont need a legal system, dont need cops and so on. are you fucking retarded or what. I have kids aswell and i would rather be stopped and searched and come away clean than see the police not want to stop and searches becasue they are worried some fucking pipsqeek like you is going to get offended that your human rights have been breached by someone that wants to make the streets a safer place for everyone. Its ppl like YOU that ruin our contries, not ppl like me.


    Well, here in America, we have something called probable cause, as well as illegal search and seizure. You brits gave that up years ago, along with your guns. No wonder GB is becoming a muslim state. In 10 years, all your crooked teethed women will be wearing burqas. LOL


    fuck probable cause. just get it over and one with, treat me nice but with saftey first in mind and i dont give a fuck. i got nothing to hide. and as for our crooked toothed women, at least our women have teeth and dont all weigh about half a ton. Crawl back into your hole and stfu. the prob with america is the fact that everyone is too scared to do fuck all about the crims as they are to scared of the repurcusions. here they just get on with it. Although i do agree that we are turning into a muslim state but hopefully something will happen and that will be sorted.


    So you miss or ignore the many stories about criminals getting shot by the ordinary folks over here.


    I probably shouldn’t write this, since I’m from Norway.

    But in Britain, the Police, chased a Brazilian through London, an on to the tube, where they executed him.

    And he was just a normal guy.

    So I’m not sure if everything is like it should be, with the Police here.


    He was not a normal guy, he was an illegal immigrant who refused to stop when armed police asked him to. He then ran onto a packed tube train where he could have set off an explosive device. The idiot who shouldn’t have even been here should’ve stopped when the police asked him to.

    This is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence. You seem extremely paranoid.


    If he wasn’t a normal guy, why did they let his family come over, and look at the murder-scene etc., like I saw on TV?

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    Quoted comment by -Oso-: Doughnut hunt.


    I’m a bit concerned with what this with the Police and the doughnuts really is about.

    Is it some kind of metaphor?


    In the U.S., it’s just kind of a running joke that cops take their breaks at doughnut shops. The joke was that whenever you need a cop, they’re never around, because they’re off eating doughnuts somewhere.

    People would even joke that if you got pulled over for speeding, if you had doughnuts with you, you could bribe the cop out of giving you a ticket. There’s absolutely no truth to it at all though. It’s an extreme exaggeration, which just kind of took off as a joke about cops.


    Ok,

    I thought it was a bit strange that the Police always are eating doghnuts in movies etc.

    The doughnuts in Norway, are maybe a bit simpler than the American ones.

    The Norwegian doughnuts, have a hole in them, so there is a joke that you can’t eat the hole in the ‘smultring’, like they are called in Norway.

    So I thought that this with the Police and the doughnuts, in the movies etc., maybe could be some kind of metaphor.

    But it could be that I’m wrong, of course.

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    Quoted comment by -Oso-: Doughnut hunt.


    I’m a bit concerned with what this with the Police and the doughnuts really is about.

    Is it some kind of metaphor?

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    Quoted comment by japapadex: It is possible that they might be searching for drugs, or it could be a high risk area whereas they will just stop and search anybody. Zero tolerance is very much in force in the merseyside area.


    Zero tolerance for walking on the pavement?

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    Quoted comment by plecostomus: To be honest, the police around here don’t
    seem to do anything unless they are called
    out, even then they take forever or don’t
    bother turning up, and they tend to achieve
    nothing afterwards anyway. I guess it would
    be nice to see the police actually doing
    something pre-emptive or even constructive.

    Now I realise that they may well be very busy,
    underfunded / overstretched in this location,
    but my point is, just maybe you’re lucky there?


    Yeah the original poster is lucky that police are actually on the beat in his area.


    Why are they called Mersey beat?

    Why aren’t they called Mersey-Police?

    Aren’t they proper police?

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    Quoted comment by fozzy5000: i would be happy to be searched by police if it means that they are trying to keep gun and knife crime down. i got nothing to hide so why should i give a fuck if 2 mins of my time is waisted. its catch 22 for the cops if they serach too many ppl its harrasment and they get fucked over and if they dont search enogh ppl and someone gets stabbed then they have not donethere job well enough. i am pretty sure cops dont carry crystal balls so they just have to search as many ppl as possible to make sure they get the bad guys. if your inconvienienced then tough shit. rather that than be stabbed on a night out eh!


    Why don’t you move to china then. Here in the USA, I will do everything to protect the rights of myself, and my kids. It’s this kind of attitude that starts the cracks in the system, and next thing you know, you are living under martial law.

    You people have been scared into submission. I pity you all.


    so let me quess, your one of these retards that think we dont need a legal system, dont need cops and so on. are you fucking retarded or what. I have kids aswell and i would rather be stopped and searched and come away clean than see the police not want to stop and searches becasue they are worried some fucking pipsqeek like you is going to get offended that your human rights have been breached by someone that wants to make the streets a safer place for everyone. Its ppl like YOU that ruin our contries, not ppl like me.


    Well, here in America, we have something called probable cause, as well as illegal search and seizure. You brits gave that up years ago, along with your guns. No wonder GB is becoming a muslim state. In 10 years, all your crooked teethed women will be wearing burqas. LOL


    fuck probable cause. just get it over and one with, treat me nice but with saftey first in mind and i dont give a fuck. i got nothing to hide. and as for our crooked toothed women, at least our women have teeth and dont all weigh about half a ton. Crawl back into your hole and stfu. the prob with america is the fact that everyone is too scared to do fuck all about the crims as they are to scared of the repurcusions. here they just get on with it. Although i do agree that we are turning into a muslim state but hopefully something will happen and that will be sorted.


    So you miss or ignore the many stories about criminals getting shot by the ordinary folks over here.


    I probably shouldn’t write this, since I’m from Norway.

    But in Britain, the Police, chased a Brazilian through London, an on to the tube, where they executed him.

    And he was just a normal guy.

    So I’m not sure if everything is like it should be, with the Police here.

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    Quoted comment by smart99:

    Quoted comment by fozzy5000: i would be happy to be searched by police if it means that they are trying to keep gun and knife crime down. i got nothing to hide so why should i give a fuck if 2 mins of my time is waisted. its catch 22 for the cops if they serach too many ppl its harrasment and they get fucked over and if they dont search enogh ppl and someone gets stabbed then they have not donethere job well enough. i am pretty sure cops dont carry crystal balls so they just have to search as many ppl as possible to make sure they get the bad guys. if your inconvienienced then tough shit. rather that than be stabbed on a night out eh!


    Why don’t you move to china then. Here in the USA, I will do everything to protect the rights of myself, and my kids. It’s this kind of attitude that starts the cracks in the system, and next thing you know, you are living under martial law.

    You people have been scared into submission. I pity you all.


    On the whole there is a much better relationship between the police and the public.There has been alot of knife crime lately and these weapons are often carried by the girlfriends of the offenders in their handbags.People generally don’t mind being searched as long as the reasons are properly explained and they are treated with dignity and respect.
    Policing in Britain is very much by the consent of the people.There are only about 130.000 police for 60 million population.


    I’m wondering a bit if the situation in Britain, is like I suspect it is, in Norway, where there is an elite, called the ‘new elite’, that I suspect have the protection from the Police and the Government.

    Where as, there is an underclass, which have no rights, it seems.

    I have a case agains Microsoft, (or Arvato/Microsoft), and I have been bullied by the Police and the Citizens Advice Bureau, when I’ve tried to get justice against Arvato/Microsoft:

    http://www.scribd.com/groups/view/14830-arvato-services-ltd-s-microsoft-scandinavian-product-activation

    So I’m not sure if everyone agrees with, that the Police are acting in consent of all the people in Britain.

    (Even if I am from Norway).

    If so, why are the Police called ‘pigs’ by people that are working-class etc., and why did the sex pistols sing about ‘a fascist regime’.

    I suspect that there is some New World Order-stuff going on in Britain and Norway etc., that means that there is an elite, who are protected by the Police and the Government, and that ordinary people have no rights.

    This is how it’s beginning to seem to me, at least.

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    The Merseyside police going through normal peoples handbags.

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    I’ve been posting photos here before, about what I think must be called the strange activities of the Merseyside Police.

    Last night, I was out to get some fresh air, and then I saw the Merseyside Police, going through some normal girls’ handbags.

    I’m not an expert on police-work but I haven’t seen the police do things like this in any other towns or cities I’ve been living in.

    I went More.. around the block, after taking the picture, and then I saw two girls, that I think were the ones, that got their stuff looked through.

    And then I asked them, why the Police were frisking them.

    And the girls answered, that the Police were just frisking everyone.

    I can’t say exactly why the Police did this, but I think the Police in this city are doing a lot of strange things, so I thought I could post about this as well, since I’ve started posting about things like this.

    Sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog Less..

    I also was wondering about that, if the Police are allowed to stop everyone on the street like the girls yesterday said, or if they need to have some kind of reference, like probable cause, to start frisking young people on the street.

    If it’s really a Police-state, if the Police act like that.

    I’m from Norway, but I’ve never seen the Oslo-police going through random peoples handbags.

    But I guess the UK police are allowed to do that then.

    This is what I saw the Merseyside-police do in Matthew St. a couple of months ago.

    Three police-officers were standing very close, to a girl, and frisking her.

    The girl was in shock, and the male officer frisked her, in a way that made her howl:

    https://johncons-blogg.net/2008/08/jeg-prver-finne-ut-hvor-mange.html

    I think the Police in this city, is acting a bit like the Gestapo, or something, sometimes.

    But I’m from Norway, so I should maybe be a bit careful about what I’m writing about things like this, but that’s my opinion nevertheless.

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