johncons

Stikkord: Liverpool City Council

  • Nå var jeg i banken, og satt inn 360 pund, siden han husverten, George, ikke dukka opp for å hente husleia, som vanlig

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    PS.

    Jeg tok fem pund i gebyr da, for det heftet det var, å gå i banken, slem som jeg er.

    (For det er det jeg har pleid å gjøre før, å bare sette inn £360 av de £364 og noe, som jeg får i bostøtte, av Liverpool Council, siden jeg er arbeidsledig).

    Så sånn er det.

    Men men.

    Men det som jeg overhørte, i 2007, og som jeg vet høres helt sinnsykt ut.

    Fra noen briter, (undercover-politi?), bak ryggen min.

    Det var at jeg ikke var ment å betale husleie.

    Og at det var noe de valgte å ikke fortelle meg, fordi de regnet med at jeg bare ville begynne å hyle og skrike, hvis de sa det.

    Så det er altså noe som har foregått, som noen, antagelig politiet, ikke vil fortelle meg.

    Og tullet med leia, det er nok ikke noe vanlig husvert-ting.

    Kanskje han George er sivil-politi, eller noe?

    Hvem vet.

    Jeg lurer ihvertfall fælt på hva som har foregått.

    Jeg har overhørt at jeg har blitt brukt som noe ‘target-guy’.

    Så jeg har kanskje blitt brukt som noe levende blink, mot noe ‘mafian’, av politiet, bak ryggen min.

    Hvem vet.

    Noe er det nok ihvertfall.

    Så sånn er nok det.

    Bare noe jeg kom på.

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

  • Jeg sendte svar tilbake til Liverpool Direct, med utfylt søknadsskjema, som vedlegg







    Google Mail – Team Leader (WSQ/124968)







    Google Mail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Team Leader (WSQ/124968)





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:16 AM





    To:

    "Gillespie, Michael" <Michael.Gillespie@liverpooldirectlimited.co.uk>



    Hi,

    thank you very much for your e-mail!
    Sorry that I didn't see about the application-form, at once, I've now filled out the form, and I'm attaching the form, as scans.

    Hope this is alright, and that I'll hear from you again, regarding this application!
    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog


    On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Gillespie, Michael <Michael.Gillespie@liverpooldirectlimited.co.uk> wrote:

    Dear Erik

    Unfortunately we do not accept CV’s

    as applications for positions.

    You can apply for LDL posts via our

    website http://www.liverpooldirectlimited.co.uk/jobs/

    where you will find application form to complete online, or download

    Regards,

    Michael Gillespie

    Resourcing Co-Ordinator

    Human Resource and Payroll Service

    Liverpool Direct Limited | Sixth Floor | Venture

    Place
    | Sir

    Thomas Street
    | Liverpool | L1 6BW

    Tel: 0151 233 3003

    E-mail: michael.gillespie@liverpooldirectlimited.co.uk

    Web: www.liverpooldirectlimited.co.uk

    P Please consider the environment before

    printing this e-mail. OK.




    From:

    Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 29 October 2009 20:19

    To: LDLRecruitment

    Subject: Team Leader (WSQ/124968)

    Hi,

    I've been working ten years with management, thereby four

    years as a food shop manager, in three different food-shops, so I have very

    good knowledge of management.

    I've been working in a Contact Centre, and I've also recieved training from a

    council in Yorkshire, East Riding, practising on answering phone-calls, from

    council-citizens, calling in with complaints, to the Council, when I worked for

    Arvato, on the Microsoft Scandinavian Product Activation-campaign, in the

    Cunard Building, here in Liverpool, a few years ago.

    I've also studied Computing with Business, on

    University-level, so I also have a good theoretical background in organisation

    and management, to complement my practical experience from these fields.

    So I hope to please get to an interview for this job!

    I'm attaching my CV.

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

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    PS.

    Her kan man se det utfylte søknadsskjemaet, som jeg sendte med e-posten ovenfor:

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  • Her kan man se at det er ikke bare bare alltid, å søke jobber i England







    Google Mail – Team Leader (WSQ/124968)







    Google Mail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Team Leader (WSQ/124968)





    Gillespie, Michael

    <Michael.Gillespie@liverpooldirectlimited.co.uk>





    Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:36 AM





    To:

    Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Dear Erik

    Unfortunately we do not accept CV’s

    as applications for positions.

    You can apply for LDL posts via our

    website http://www.liverpooldirectlimited.co.uk/jobs/

    where you will find application form to complete online, or download

    Regards,

    Michael Gillespie

    Resourcing Co-Ordinator

    Human Resource and Payroll Service

    Liverpool Direct Limited | Sixth Floor | Venture

    Place
    | Sir

    Thomas Street
    | Liverpool | L1 6BW

    Tel: 0151 233 3003

    E-mail: michael.gillespie@liverpooldirectlimited.co.uk

    Web: www.liverpooldirectlimited.co.uk

    P Please consider the environment before

    printing this e-mail. OK.




    From:

    Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 29 October 2009 20:19

    To: LDLRecruitment

    Subject: Team Leader (WSQ/124968)


    Hi,

    I've been working ten years with management, thereby four

    years as a food shop manager, in three different food-shops, so I have very

    good knowledge of management.

    I've been working in a Contact Centre, and I've also recieved training from a

    council in Yorkshire, East Riding, practising on answering phone-calls, from

    council-citizens, calling in with complaints, to the Council, when I worked for

    Arvato, on the Microsoft Scandinavian Product Activation-campaign, in the

    Cunard Building, here in Liverpool, a few years ago.

    I've also studied Computing with Business, on

    University-level, so I also have a good theoretical background in organisation

    and management, to complement my practical experience from these fields.

    So I hope to please get to an interview for this job!

    I'm attaching my CV.

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    ______________________________________________________________________

    This email has been automatically scanned for viruses and malicious content by

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  • Jeg søkte på en jobb som Team-Leader, for Liverpool City Council’s kundeservice-senter







    Google Mail – Team Leader (WSQ/124968)







    Google Mail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Team Leader (WSQ/124968)





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:19 PM





    To:

    ldlrecruitment@liverpooldirectlimited.co.uk



    Hi,

    I've been working ten years with management, thereby four years as a food shop manager, in three different food-shops, so I have very good knowledge of management.

    I've been working in a Contact Centre, and I've also recieved training from a council in Yorkshire, East Riding, practising on answering phone-calls, from council-citizens, calling in with complaints, to the Council, when I worked for Arvato, on the Microsoft Scandinavian Product Activation-campaign, in the Cunard Building, here in Liverpool, a few years ago.

    I've also studied Computing with Business, on University-level, so I also have a good theoretical background in organisation and management, to complement my practical experience from these fields.

    So I hope to please get to an interview for this job!
    I'm attaching my CV.
    Yours sincerely,
    Erik Ribsskog







    CV – Erik Ribsskog.rtf
    10K




  • Her er en bloggpost, som jeg skrev nå, på Blue Kipper, om at Liverpool City Council, ringte på igjen, på callinga mi, og ville prate med meg igjen



    post Today, 11:42 AM

    Post #221


    Gary Jones

    Group: Members
    Posts: 107
    Joined: 3-August 08
    Member No.: 2,848



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    Now the Council called on my calling again, (at around 11 AM).

    I explained that the Merseyside-police, had been calling on my calling, like them.

    And I asked who they were, and they didn't answer, so I thought it was the bailiff.

    And then someone else let in the Police, so they were hammering on my door, for half an hour, without telling they were police.

    So I thought they were the bailiff.

    The people from the council, (one manager, and one with a white shirt, black trousers, and hat), explained that if the hat's band, had green and white checkered pattern, then it's Council).

    I explained that last week, when the Council were on my door, then I first thought they were police, since I'm from Norway.

    But the officer from the Council, with a reflex-west, showed me, that if the, (quite slim), band, on the hat, had green and white squares, then it was Council-officers.

    They said that it was allowed for businesses, to put household-waste, in the big bins, if it was from the business itself.

    (I told that Lady of Mann had purple bins, and wondered if the Eberle St.-clubs, also shouldn't have purple bins).

    I explained to them, that the big bins, were dragged to Dale St., so I thought that maybe the bin-company, had trown some garbage, in the lane, if they found household-waste, in the bins.

    They also explained, that they had to send a letter to all the households around here.

    I said that I had explained, to the Council already that it wasn't me who threw the garbage, in the lane.

    But they said they had to send the letter to me as well, for some reason.

    I said that perhaps they should have mentioned, that they had spoken with me, on Wednesday.

    They agreed, (the manager), that they possibly should have done this.

    So we compromised a bit, (it wasn't really that serious, from my behalf eighter, I just curious about why they have police-like uniforms, since in Norway, councils haven't got this).

    And I've been bullied by police, in an almost similar way, last year, on this address, like I explained to the Council-officers, that were here today.

    Just an update about this.

    The Council-officers said that they would speak with some people, about the large bins as well.

    And on the photograps, above, one can see them talking with the lady in the leather-shop, after they spoke with me.

    Just to update about this.

    PS.

    Now it looks to me, like it's the woman from Yoyo hairdresser, that they are speaking with.

    I haven't spoken with her before, so I don't really know her, if it's the woman from the hairdressers, that they are speaking with, like I think it looks like now.








    PS.

    Her er mer om dette, på Blue Kipper-forumet:

    http://www.bluekipper.net/index.php?showtopic=34570&st=220#entry879799

    PS 2.

    Den gata her, Leather Lane, det er en gammel gate, i en av de eldste delene av Liverpool, såvidt jeg mener å ha lest, på museum osv.

    Og i gamle dager, så var gatene her, ikke breiere, for de hadde ikke biler osv.

    Så i de gatene her, så var det nok sånne øl-kneiper osv., for for hundre år siden osv., da amerikabåtene gikk fra Liverpool, rett ned Dale St. og Water St, (ca. fem minutter å gå), så kommer man til the Pier Head, hvor jeg pleide å jobbe før, i the Cunard Building, som var hovedkvarteret til et stort rederi da, som kjøpte opp the White Star Line, blant annet, etter at Titanic sank.

    (Men det rederiet, flyttet hovedkontoret, til Southampton, for noen tiår siden, så det var derfor at den skandinaviske Microsoft-aktiveringen, og de andre avdelingene til Bertelsmann Arvato, hadde kontor, i den bygningen).

    Så sånn var det.

    Så da var det nok fullt av liv, i denne delen av byen.

    Bare noe jeg kom på.

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

  • Jeg sendte en ny e-post til Liverpool City Council







    Google Mail – Update/Fwd: Complaint to G. Thompson, Environmental Enforcement Services, Liverpool City Council







    Google Mail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Update/Fwd: Complaint to G. Thompson, Environmental Enforcement Services, Liverpool City Council





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:07 AM





    To:

    liverpool.direct@liverpool.gov.uk



    Hi,

    I'm just sending an update about this.
    I think that the garbage-bags, in Leather Lane, could be from the company, that empty the 'G-bar bins', in Dale St., and when they find household-waste, in those bins, then perhaps they through those bags in the lane?

    What do you think?
    I'll explain more in a PS, (with pictures etc).
    Yours sincerely,
    Erik Ribsskog
    PS.
    Here's what I think the problem with the garbage-bags, in Leather Lane, could be due to:

    post Today, 06:57 AM

    Post #218


    Gary Jones

    Group: Members
    Posts: 106
    Joined: 3-August 08
    Member No.: 2,848


    Now I'll try to explain, how I think this mystery, with the garbage-bags, in Leather Lane, is.

    I'll try to explain with pictures, so that noone can pretend, not to understand, and so that perhaps also the Council perhaps will understand.

    We'll see:

    1:


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    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:43 PM
    Subject: Complaint to G. Thompson, Environmental Enforcement Services, Liverpool City Council
    To: Liverpool Direct <liverpool.direct@liverpool.gov.uk>

    Hi,

    I'm writing to you, since on Wednesday, you and your college, from Liverpool City Council, in 'police-like uniforms', called on my calling, in flat 3, 5 Leather Lane, and wanted to speak with me, about the garbage, that someone had left in the lane, after the Bank Holiday.

    I explained, that this wasn't my garbage, since I go with all my household-waste, to the restaurant Lady of Mann's garbage room, since that's the routine the Landlord, has told us to use, with the garbage.

    Still I got a letter today, saying that you think it's possible me who do this, even if we talked about this on Wednesday.
    You don't eighter seem, to reflect on, what I told you, that from my kitchen-window, I can see some type of break-room, (since I've been filming some funny seagull-family, on the roof of the 'G-bar building', which has made a lot of noise and learned to fly etc., earlier this summer).

    So then I've noticed, that there is a combined washing-machine room, and break-room with fridge and microwave etc., right under the roof of the 'G-bar building', where the seagulls where.

    I don't what kind of business it is, who has this break-room, but I've noticed, that employees, has to hang up black towels, from the washing-machine, during their brakes.

    So I'm not sure how fine this business is.

    I've wondered if this could be the break-room, (like I told you and your collegue), for City of Angels, hair-dressers, but I think this seems a bit strange, since there are perhaps 20-30 meter from the break-room to the hair-dressers, who are on the other end of the lane, than Dale St.

    (I wonder, since the break-room, is alway full of attractive women, who fixes their hair, and put on make-up, is a brothel they have there, or what is it?).
    I can't say what type of business, for sure, that the break-room belongs to, but it's right above G-bars exit-door, where they throw out drunks, who then sometimes knock on the door, in the midle of the night, and make noise.

    So I think it's a bit unfair, that we in 5 Leather Lane get the blaime for this garbage.
    I think that probably someone throw the garbage in the G-bar bins, (who is for bottles, that they throw in them, at around 7 AM, making a lot of noise, and they also throw ashes from sigarettes, I think, because sometimes the 'G-bar bins' starts to catch fire).

    And then perhaps, when the bin-company comes, to collect the 'G-bar bins', then that company could perhaps throw out the household-waste, from the break-room?, near Leather Lane, if that's where the bins are collected.

    Something like this, because I know that household-waste, has to be in the purple bins, for bin-companies to not write fines, to the businesses.
    But I haven't seen that the G-bar building has their own purple bins, like the Lady of Mann-restaurant and Rigbys pub-garbage-room.

    So I think that perhaps the G-bar building has to get their own purple bins, for the break rooms?
    Could this be the problem?
    Since I can't see that you mention this break-room, in the 'G-bar building', in you letter, that I recieved today, even if I explained you and your college, about this break-room, on Wednesday.

    So I think it's a bit strange that I get this letter, saying that you think it's me that put the garbage in Leather Lane, after I told you that I put it in the Lady of Mann's garbage-room, like the Landlord has explained to me, when I moved in here, in 2006, that I should do.

    So I wanted to please complain about this, since I think citizens shouldn't be threated like this, that the Council don't listen to what the citizens says.
    Sincerely,
    Erik Ribsskog






  • Jeg har forresten skrevet mer på det engelske Everton-fourmet, Blue Kipper, om problemet med søppel-sekker, som flyter, i Leather Lane

    Her er et brev, som vi leieboerne, i bygget her, fikk fra ‘the Council’, idag:

    img037

    Og da skrev jeg en e-post tilbake til the Council, hvor jeg klaget på at jeg jo allerede hadde fortalt dem det, på onsdag, at det ikke var meg som kasta søppel i gata, (jeg har jo ‘søppel-koden’, som jeg har skrevet om på bloggen tidligere):







    Google Mail – Complaint to G. Thompson, Environmental Enforcement Services, Liverpool City Council







    Google Mail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Complaint to G. Thompson, Environmental Enforcement Services, Liverpool City Council





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:43 PM





    To:

    Liverpool Direct <liverpool.direct@liverpool.gov.uk>



    Hi,

    I'm writing to you, since on Wednesday, you and your college, from Liverpool City Council, in 'police-like uniforms', called on my calling, in flat 3, 5 Leather Lane, and wanted to speak with me, about the garbage, that someone had left in the lane, after the Bank Holiday.

    I explained, that this wasn't my garbage, since I go with all my household-waste, to the restaurant Lady of Mann's garbage room, since that's the routine the Landlord, has told us to use, with the garbage.

    Still I got a letter today, saying that you think it's possible me who do this, even if we talked about this on Wednesday.
    You don't eighter seem, to reflect on, what I told you, that from my kitchen-window, I can see some type of break-room, (since I've been filming some funny seagull-family, on the roof of the 'G-bar building', which has made a lot of noise and learned to fly etc., earlier this summer).

    So then I've noticed, that there is a combined washing-machine room, and break-room with fridge and microwave etc., right under the roof of the 'G-bar building', where the seagulls where.

    I don't what kind of business it is, who has this break-room, but I've noticed, that employees, has to hang up black towels, from the washing-machine, during their brakes.

    So I'm not sure how fine this business is.

    I've wondered if this could be the break-room, (like I told you and your collegue), for City of Angels, hair-dressers, but I think this seems a bit strange, since there are perhaps 20-30 meter from the break-room to the hair-dressers, who are on the other end of the lane, than Dale St.

    (I wonder, since the break-room, is alway full of attractive women, who fixes their hair, and put on make-up, is a brothel they have there, or what is it?).
    I can't say what type of business, for sure, that the break-room belongs to, but it's right above G-bars exit-door, where they throw out drunks, who then sometimes knock on the door, in the midle of the night, and make noise.

    So I think it's a bit unfair, that we in 5 Leather Lane get the blaime for this garbage.
    I think that probably someone throw the garbage in the G-bar bins, (who is for bottles, that they throw in them, at around 7 AM, making a lot of noise, and they also throw ashes from sigarettes, I think, because sometimes the 'G-bar bins' starts to catch fire).

    And then perhaps, when the bin-company comes, to collect the 'G-bar bins', then that company could perhaps throw out the household-waste, from the break-room?, near Leather Lane, if that's where the bins are collected.

    Something like this, because I know that household-waste, has to be in the purple bins, for bin-companies to not write fines, to the businesses.
    But I haven't seen that the G-bar building has their own purple bins, like the Lady of Mann-restaurant and Rigbys pub-garbage-room.

    So I think that perhaps the G-bar building has to get their own purple bins, for the break rooms?
    Could this be the problem?
    Since I can't see that you mention this break-room, in the 'G-bar building', in you letter, that I recieved today, even if I explained you and your college, about this break-room, on Wednesday.

    So I think it's a bit strange that I get this letter, saying that you think it's me that put the garbage in Leather Lane, after I told you that I put it in the Lady of Mann's garbage-room, like the Landlord has explained to me, when I moved in here, in 2006, that I should do.

    So I wanted to please complain about this, since I think citizens shouldn't be threated like this, that the Council don't listen to what the citizens says.
    Sincerely,
    Erik Ribsskog






    Så nå blir det spennende å se, om jeg hører noe tilbake fra the Council.

    Vi får se.

    Med vennlig hilsen

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS.

    Her er link til diskusjonen på fotball-forumet, igjen:

    http://www.bluekipper.net/index.php?showtopic=34570&st=60

    PS 2.

    Og her er fler bloggposter, hvor jeg har skrevet mer om ‘søppel-koden’, tidligere:

    https://johncons-blogg.net/search/label/’Søppel-koden’

  • Jeg sov ganske lenge idag, så ble jeg vekket av noen som så ut som politifolk, men de var fra Liverpool City Council. De lurte på søpla i Leather Lane

    Photo 4093

    PS.

    Disse ringte på calling-anlegget, så jeg måtte gå ned og prate med de.

    Så jeg viste de plakaten, som henger innafor døra, om hvor vi i bygningen jeg bor, kaster søpla, dvs. hos Rigbys pub og the Courtyard-resturanten der da.

    Så skjønte de at søpla ikke var fra oss.

    De spurte om det var noen andre leiligheter, som jeg trodde at søpla kunne komme fra.

    Men jeg sa, at jeg trodde at lenger ned der, så var det vel kontorer.

    Men jeg sa det, at fra kjøkken-vinduet mitt, så kunne jeg se et slags pauserom.

    (Der hvor de har svarte håndklær).

    Og det pauserommet, det er vel kanskje litt langt unna frisørsalongen, City of Angels, som vel er 20-30 meter unna, eller noe, vel.

    Så om det er noen som bor i G-bar diskotek-bygget, lurte jeg på.

    Kanskje det pauserommet er til noe bordell, eller noe?

    (For de er veldig pene de unge damene, som jeg kan se at noen ganger bruker det, og de steller håret sitt og sånn, hele tida).

    Eller er det til frisørsalongen?

    Jeg vet da søren jeg.

    Noe er det vel ihvertfall.

    Jeg tror ihvertfall at de skjønte det, at søpla ikke var fra vår oppgang og bygning da, siden vi har søppelkasting, ved restauranten der, Lady of Mann.

    Så sånn var det.

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS.

    Her er mer om dette:

    Photo 4094

    Photo 4095

  • Her er en ny e-post til Liverpool City Council, om uttrykket ‘European citizen’







    Google Mail – FW: Electoral register







    Google Mail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    FW: Electoral register





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:27 PM





    To:

    "Barker, Stephen" <Stephen.Barker@liverpool.gov.uk>



    Hi,

    thank you very much for your answer!
    I would like to point out again, that it isn't clear, that it's EU-citizens who are eligable to vote, since you use
    the term 'European citizens', and not 'EU-citizen'.

    So I got tricked by this, right after I moved in, to a new flat.
    Because it also is a threat there, that says that I have to pay £1000 if I don't send the form, in the post.
    So then I thought, that I didn't want to get a fine, for £1000, so then I sent the form in the post.

    And on the airport, you also write 'European citizen', which I, as a Norwegian citizen, think is a confusing term.
    On the airport, there isn't even any small printing.

    One walks for about 20 more yards, and there's a new sign saying 'EU citizens', but then it's to late to turn, because
    all the other people on the flight, are from the UK, so it's packed with people, so you can't turn, and walk back, in the

    other queue.
    So I at least, has found this term 'European citizen' used for 'EU citizen', confusing.
    But anyway, I guess this is not such a big deal, It perhaps because we in Norway, learn that we are in Europe.

    Since we don't only think of continental Europe, as Europe, we also include Iceland, Scandinavia and the British Isles etc.,
    in Europe, when we learn about this at school, perhaps this varies from country to country, I can't really know this for sure.

    You say that companies are using the electoral register, to find out, if people can get loans.
    But then I think, that the UK Government, must be selling this register.
    I think this practice, can be not in line with the EEA, since it discriminates EFTA-citizens, from Norway, Iceland,

    Switzerland and Lichtenstein, if the UK Government, sells this register, to companies, that give loans, etc.
    This is just how I think it is.
    But like I wrote, I have had some problems with the communication etc., with the Norwegian embassy, in London,

    so I have to think more about, how to deal with this.
    I've sent an e-mail, to the Norwegian ministry of trade, since I'm in contact with them, about some other cases,
    to do with the EEA, and I'm sending a complaint, on the Merseyside Police, the Home Office, etc., to the

    EU-commission, for breaches, I think it's called, on the EEA-agreement, so perhaps I add about the electoral
    register as well, while I'm at it, writing complaints to the EU-commission.

    We'll see.

    Thanks again for taking the time to send an answer about this!
    Yours sincerely,
    Erik Ribsskog

    On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Barker, Stephen <Stephen.Barker@liverpool.gov.uk> wrote:

    Hello

    I apologise if this has caused you any confusion, but

    as you state, it is clear on the registration form and on the accompanying

    leaflet that it is European Union citizens who are eligible to

    register.

    With regard to getting a loan etc, we use the electoral

    register for one purpose only and that is to ensure that anyone who is eligible

    to vote has the right to do so. It is credit companies that use it for

    credit checks and there is nothing that we can do to stop them using it for this

    purpose.

    I trust this answers your query, however if I can be of

    any further assistance then please do not hesitate to contact

    me.

    Regards

    Stephen

    Barker

    Asst. Elections

    Manager

    Electoral Services

    Unit

    Tel: 0151 225

    3519

    Fax:

    0151-225-2365

    E-mail:

    stephen.barker
    @liverpool.gov.uk




    From: Erik Ribsskog

    [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    Sent: 12 August 2009 00:01
    To: Electoral Services

    Subject: Electoral

    register

    Hi,

    today, I got the form, to register, on the electoral

    register, for the third time, I think it is.


    On the front-page, of the form, it says 'European

    [..] citizen'.

    But then, it means EU-citizen, as I've been explained

    earlier.


    But, I'm from Norway, and Norway are in Europe, on the map, at least the last time I

    checked.


    Why do you use the term 'European citizen', when you

    don't mean eg. Norway or

    Switzerland, who are also in

    Europe.

    Iceland

    and Lichtenstein, are also in Europe, the are European countries, at least we

    learned this at school in Norway,

    that Europe was one of

    the 'verdensdeler', 'world-parts' or

    continents.

    So why do you say European citizen instead of

    EU-citizen, because I think that can be a bit disrespectful, towards

    the

    EFTA-countries, Norway, Switzerland, Iceland and Liechtenstein,

    who aren't in the EU.

    Another thing I was wondering about, is that if people

    apply for a loan, i the UK, they have to be in the electoral

    register,

    as far as I

    understand.


    But, Norwegians aren't allowed to be in the

    electoral register, since we aren't in the

    EU.


    But, there is an agreement between the EFTA

    countries (including Norway),

    and the UK, called the

    EEA-agreement,

    that says that Norwegians should have the same rights,

    as EU-citizens, in the EU.

    But I don't think Norwegians get the same rights, to

    have a loan, since we can't be in the electoral

    register.

    I think, to get a loan, is part of what the

    EEA-agreement, is meant to cover, the four freedoms and all that, free

    movement

    of people, but then the Norwegians should be allowed to

    get a loan.


    I understand that Norwegians aren't allowed to vote,

    since Norway aren't in the

    EU.


    But, I think, that according to the EEA, that

    Norwegians should be allowed to get a loan, but this electoral

    register,

    it means, that we can't get a loan, since we aren't

    allowed to be in the electoral register.


    So this I don't think is in line with the

    EEA-agreement.


    Normally, I would have sent this, to the Norwegian

    embassy, but they, don't answer my corresponence, even

    if

    an ombudsman, in Norway,

    Sivilombusmannen, has told them to do so, but the embassy refuse, for more than

    a

    year now, to answer my correspondence, even if can't

    understand why they do this.


    I even went with the train, to London, with some files,

    (to do with an employment-case, involving many Nordic

    citizens),

    to deliver them in person, instead of sending them in

    the post, and still the treat me like this.


    I don't think this is easy to

    understand.


    But anyway.


    Sorry that I wrote a lot about the EEA-agreement

    etc., but I hope you have the oppertunity, to explain why it

    says

    'European citizen', and not 'EU-citizen', on this form,

    an on the John Lennon airport sometimes as well, I

    remember,

    from when I was there, in

    2005.

    Just out of curiosity, if you have the time, that

    is.


    Thank you very much for your help in

    advance!

    Yours sincerely,


    Erik

    Ribsskog


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    Hi,

    today, I got the form, to register, on the electoral register, for the third time, I think it is.
    On the front-page, of the form, it says 'European [..] citizen'.
    But then, it means EU-citizen, as I've been explained earlier.
    But, I'm from Norway, and Norway are in Europe, on the map, at least the last time I checked.
    Why do you use the term 'European citizen', when you don't mean eg. Norway or Switzerland, who are also in Europe.

    Iceland and Lichtenstein, are also in Europe, the are European countries, at least we learned this at school in Norway,
    that Europe was one of the 'verdensdeler', 'world-parts' or continents.

    So why do you say European citizen instead of EU-citizen, because I think that can be a bit disrespectful, towards the
    EFTA-countries, Norway, Switzerland, Iceland and Liechtenstein, who aren't in the EU.

    Another thing I was wondering about, is that if people apply for a loan, i the UK, they have to be in the electoral register,
    as far as I understand.
    But, Norwegians aren't allowed to be in the electoral register, since we aren't in the EU.

    But, there is an agreement between the EFTA countries (including Norway), and the UK, called the EEA-agreement,
    that says that Norwegians should have the same rights, as EU-citizens, in the EU.
    But I don't think Norwegians get the same rights, to have a loan, since we can't be in the electoral register.
    I think, to get a loan, is part of what the EEA-agreement, is meant to cover, the four freedoms and all that, free movement

    of people, but then the Norwegians should be allowed to get a loan.
    I understand that Norwegians aren't allowed to vote, since Norway aren't in the EU.
    But, I think, that according to the EEA, that Norwegians should be allowed to get a loan, but this electoral register,

    it means, that we can't get a loan, since we aren't allowed to be in the electoral register.
    So this I don't think is in line with the EEA-agreement.
    Normally, I would have sent this, to the Norwegian embassy, but they, don't answer my corresponence, even if

    an ombudsman, in Norway, Sivilombusmannen, has told them to do so, but the embassy refuse, for more than a
    year now, to answer my correspondence, even if can't understand why they do this.

    I even went with the train, to London, with some files, (to do with an employment-case, involving many Nordic citizens),

    to deliver them in person, instead of sending them in the post, and still the treat me like this.

    I don't think this is easy to understand.
    But anyway.
    Sorry that I wrote a lot about the EEA-agreement etc., but I hope you have the oppertunity, to explain why it says
    'European citizen', and not 'EU-citizen', on this form, an on the John Lennon airport sometimes as well, I remember,

    from when I was there, in 2005.
    Just out of curiosity, if you have the time, that is.
    Thank you very much for your help in advance!
    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog