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Erik Ribsskog eribsskog@gmail.com 28. januar 2024 kl. 21:56
Til: complaintsresolution@lowellgroup.co.uk
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Hi,

the way I remember it, EE owes me money (and not the other way around).

I got a monthly wireless broadband-plan, from EE (in Liverpool City Center) in the summer of 2017.

And after a few weeks, the sim-card stopped working.

And that wasn’t the only problem.

I really wanted a USB-dongle (like T-Mobile/EE sold, around 2011).

But they’d stopped selling these.

And instead I had to buy a router.

But the problem was that the router didn’t charge that well.

So sometimes it ran out of power.

And then I couldn’t use the internet, for a number of X hours.

And that’s not really an alternative to ADSL/regular broadband then, I think.

So I got a pay-as-you-go sim-card/router, from Three.

(Since I’m a Norwegian citizen, then I’m not in the electoral-register.

So it’s not easy getting monthly-plans in the UK (for Norwegian citizens).

Even before Brexit this was a problem).

So I just started buying pay-as-you-go-data/gigabytes at Tesco, etc.

For the Three-router.

And I got myself a flat in Tuebrook, in the autumn of 2017.

And the flat was unfurnished.

And I hadn’t brought any furniture etc. with me from Norway.

So I had a lot of other stuff to buy (for the flat).

So I just continued using the Three-router/sim-card/wireless broadband.

And when the EE sim-card stopped working, then I must have stopped the direct debit, by using eighter my RBS internet-bank og Barclays internet-bank.

But this was EE’s own foult, since their stuff didn’t work.

They made the sim-card stop working (the way I remember it).

And their router wasn’t good enough to do with charging (of the built-in battery).

So it was basically rubbish, I’d say.

(And it was also in a funny yellow colour.

So it looked like EE had used a lot of effort into this product.

But it didn’t work properly.

And also they shut down my sim-card, after a few weeks, even if I had gotten money from a property-sale in Norway, some weeks earlier, so it was plenty of money, on both my British bank-accounts)

So this I have to complain about.

Erik Ribsskog

———- Forwarded message ———
Fra: Lowell noreply@lowellgroup.co.uk
Date: man. 13. mars 2023 kl. 17:44
Subject: Manage your accounts
To: eribsskog@gmail.com

Lowell

Mr Erik Ribsskog

YOUR OUTSTANDING ACCOUNTS
ORIGINAL COMPANY NAME LOWELL REF BALANCE
EE Limited 314802737 £38.71
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13/03/2023

Dear Mr Ribsskog

It’s never been easier to manage your account(s)
It only takes a couple of minutes to register to manage your account(s) online.

Visit www.lowell.co.uk today and let us know how much you’ll pay and how often, with an interest-free payment plan. At www.lowell.co.uk you can check your budget, set up a payment plan and keep track of your progress.

It’s never been easier to manage your account(s) online, so take your first step towards a debt-free future today.

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0333 556 5700
PO Box 13079,
HARLOW, CM20 9TE
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Robert Taylor
UK Director of Customer Engagement

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28. januar 2024
Mer fra Liverpool

I går dro jeg, ned til Liverpool sentrum, for å gjøre, noen ærend.

Så sånn var det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Mvh.

Erik Ribsskog

PS.

Da jeg skulle gå av bussen, (ved Liverpool One).

Så var det sånn, at det var kø, før bussholdeplassen.

Så derfor endte jeg opp, med å gå ned, litt tidlig.

Og en svær gubbe, (som var i lag med sin kone og disse satt nede på bussen), begynte liksom, å sparke/dytte på meg.

(Vil jeg nesten si).

Så sånn var det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Men men.

PS 2.

Ved Debenhams/Liverpool One, så stod det tre politibiler, (mot vanligvis bare en).

Så sånn var det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Men men.

PS 3.

Her er mer om dette:

PS 4.

Inne på postkontoret/bokhandelen så hadde de fortsatt teip, på gulvet, i trappa:

PS 5.

Etter å ha vært, på postkontoret, (for å kjøpe kontant-strøm og kontant-internett).

Så gikk jeg, til O2, for å prøve å få meg ‘måneds-internett’.

Og de surra noe helt j*vlig der.

Jeg hadde printa ut et ark, med bilde, av den dongel-en, som jeg ville ha.

Men jeg hadde visst printa ut, en feil pris-plan, i farta.

Men jeg husket hvordan pris-planen jeg ønsket var.

Og forklarte dette.

Men de klarte ikke å finne ut av det.

(De begynte å tilby meg mange lignende pris-planer.

Men ingen helt like).

Og til slutt så sa de at jeg ikke bestod kreditt-sjekken.

Men det må muligens ha vært fordi at jeg er norsk statsborger.

Og norske statsborgere står ikke i the Electoral Register.

(Noe jeg har blogget om tidligere).

Og jeg fikk ‘måneds-internett’ av EE, i sommer.

Men den har slutta å virke.

Så jeg har bare ‘kontant-internett’ fra Three.

Og det koster meg cirka 100 pund, i måneden.

Og det finnes mange billigere løsninger.

(For å si det sånn).

Så sånn var det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Men men.

PS 6.

Hu som tok imot kundene, på O2.

(Ei rødhette, i 20-åra kanskje).

Hu lot meg også vente, veldig lenge, ved et bord.

Før jeg fikk noe hjelp.

(For å si det sånn).

Så sånn var det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Men men.

PS 7.

Det var også sånn, at hu nevnte rødhetta.

Hu fant ‘ingenting’, på skjermen sin.

Så hu måtte hele tida spørre om hjelp, fra en mannlig kollega, (med mørkt hår).

Og han begynte også, å nevne ‘rare’ pris-planer, som var litt dyrere, enn de som var, på internett, da.

(For å si det sånn).

Samtidig med at han sa, at de tilbydde de samme avtalene som på internett.

(Var det vel).

Så sånn var det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Men men.

PS 8.

Det lå også en brosjyre, på bordet der.

(Hvor jeg ble bedt om å sette meg ned).

Men i den brosjyren, så var ikke de aktuelle avtalene nevnt.

(Selv om alle de andre avtalene var nevnt der.

Kunne det virke som).

Så sånn var det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Men men.

PS 9.

Etter dette, så gikk jeg, til doen, på Liverpool One.

(For jeg måtte på do, da).

Og der var det to dundrer, som stod og vaska dasser, (to båser ved siden av hverandre), med dørene åpne.

Så jeg måtte stå å pisse, (i en bås), noen få centimeter, fra hu ene dundra, da.

(For å si det sånn).

Så det var vel uro-politi, eller noe sånt, hvis jeg skulle tippe.

For en vaskekjerring, på et herretoalett, det har man vel kanskje hørt om.

Men to?

Hm.

Så sånn var det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Men men.

PS 10.

Her er mer om dette:

PS 11.

Etter dette gikk jeg, til Poundland, (for å blant annet kjøpe musefeller).

Disse hadde bare selvbetjeningskasser åpne.

Og det var sånn, at jeg brukte lang tid, på å betale.

Og det var fordi at jeg ikke ville gå bort, til kort-automaten, med en gang.

Og det var fordi, at den stod inntil, en lubben kar, som blant annet kjøpte, et sett, med svære kjøkkenkniver.

(Noe sånt).

Og han ‘tjukkasen’, brukte mye plass, (og breia seg/svirra også, må man vel si), da.

Så det ville blitt, som noe klamt/ekkelt, å stå, ved kortautomaten, (på selvbetjeningskassa), før han var ferdig.

(For å si det sånn).

Så sånn var det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Men men.

PS 12.

På Claes Ohlson, (hvor jeg kjøpte et termometer til, til å ha i kjøleskapet).

Så var det en kunde, som gikk feil vei, inn i butikken.

(Like før jeg skulle betale).

Så sånn var det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Men men.

PS 13.

På Tesco Superstore Liverpool One.

Så skulle jeg kjøpe ost, til musefellene.

Men en ekkel gubbe, hang foran ostedisken.

Så det ble til at jeg kjøpte noen babybel-oster, som var på tilbud, (og derfor på en aktivitetsplass, et stykke unna, han gubben).

Så sånn var det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Men men.

PS 14.

Det var også sånn, på Matalan.

At en ekkel gubbe gikk i veien for meg, når jeg skulle se etter nye klær.

Og denne butikken hadde også kutta ut de tennis-skjortene og t-skjortene, som jeg pleier å kjøpe, (i mørke farger), og hadde bare disse, i ‘jente-farger’, liksom.

(Noe sånt).

Så sånn var det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Men men.

PS 15.

På bussen, så hadde jeg med meg, tre bæreposer.

Og det var et helvete å gå av bussen.

For Poundland-posen satt seg fast, øverst i trappa.

Så jeg trodde, at jeg ikke skulle rekke, å gå av bussen, før folk gikk på.

Men en ekkel gubbe, som trava foran buss-døra.

Han gikk ikke på bussen.

(Av en eller annen grunn).

Og det var også sånn, at bussen, (som ble kjørt, av ei svær blondinne), ikke kjørte videre, (med en gang).

(Kunne det virke som).

Så sånn var det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Men men.

PS 16.

Her er mer om dette:

PS 17.

I gata jeg bor, så var det sånn, at en svær, gul politivan.

Og en ‘pakkis’-gutt på sykkel.

Kom kjørende mot meg.

(I gata og på fortauet).

Så jeg måtte plassere meg, foran en parkert bil.

(Mens disse passerte).

Så sånn var det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Men men.

PS 18.

Fler mobilbilder:

PS 19.

Det var også sånn, på Clas Ohlson.

At kassereren, (en ung mann), spurte om jeg skulle ha pose.

Men han slo ikke inn noe pose.

Så det var litt ‘merksnodig’, (må man vel si).

(Noe sånt).

Siden at de nå har en ny bærepose-skatt, her i England.

(Men det er mulig, at Clas Ohlson-posen, var så liten, at den ikke var skatte-pliktig, da.

Noe sånt).

Så sånn var det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Men men.

PS 20.

Her er mer om dette:

PS 21.

På Tesco Superstore Liverpool One, så var det forresten sånn, at ‘selvbetjenings-jungelen’, var skiltet, med at man kun kunne betale med kontanter.

Så jeg ble liksom ‘nudget’, bort til en ‘vanlig’ kasse, da.

(For å så det sånn).

Selv om det var kø der også.

Men to unge menn, som jobba, i ‘selvbetjenings-jungelen’, var nesten aggressive, syntes jeg.

Og skreik til kundene, (om det som stod på plakaten), ‘hele tida’.

(Kunne det virke som).

Så det ble, som noe herk liksom, å gå, i selvbetjeningskassene, da.

(For å si det sånn).

Så sånn var det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Men men.

PS 21.

Tesco hadde visst også problemer, med fargebåndet, i kassene sine:

PS 22.

Jeg er ikke så glad i sånne omega 3-kapsler.

For når kapslene sprekker, så raper man opp fiskeolje, (må man vel si).

(Noe lignende pleide forresten min stesøster Christell å si, (om tran-kapsler), på 80-tallet.

Sånn som jeg husker det).

Men sjømat inneholder også omega 3.

Og derfor har jeg kjøpt en del reker, i det siste.

(Som også inneholder proteiner, osv.

Som kroppen trenger).

Og jeg har lest litt, på reke-pakkene, til Asda og Tesco.

(Dette er snakk om ferdig-pillede reker.

Og de er ikke i lake, som i Norge).

Og rekene på Tesco, er ferske reker, som er skrelt.

Og de på Asda, er frosne reker, som er tint og skrelt.

Og de til Asda smaker derfor nesten bare salt, (må man vel si).

Men likevel, så har visst Asda sine ‘salt-reker’, fått en pris, fra en bransje-organisasjon, for bra kvalitet.

(Noe sånt).

Så det er jo nesten bakvendt-land, (må man vel si).

(Noe sånt).

Så sånn er visst det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Men men.

PS 23.

Jeg har jo også jobbet, i emballasje-bransjen.

(Jeg jobbet hjemmefra, på vegne av Packaging Europe.

Fra våren 2007 til høsten 2008).

Og på det nederste bildet, i PS 18 ovenfor.

Så kan man se, at plastikken, på reke-pakken, til Tesco.

Den henger fast, i pakningen.

Så det blir risiko, for gris.

For det trekket, på toppen, av pakken.

Det inneholder nok, litt reke-saft, på baksiden.

Så når man ikke kan rive av det trekket, (på vanlig måte).

Så blir det grisete, (å spise fra esken, som vel mange gjør).

For det er vanskelig å styre, hva det trekket kommer borti.

Og da blir det kanskje ‘fiske-lukt’, i stua osv., da.

På grunn av denne dumme emballasje-løsningen.

Og det er ofte sånn, (vil jeg nesten si), når det gjelder egne merkevarer.

(Som disse Tesco-rekene er et eksempel på).

At emballasjen ofte ikke er, så gjennomtenkt, som emballasjen, til ‘vanlige’ merkevarer.

Så kjedene blir nok noen ganger, litt for ‘spredde’, når de har mye EMV-varer, osv.

Det blir kanskje for mye, for noen kjeder.

Når de også skal ha fabrikker og reke-trålere osv., liksom.

(For å si det sånn).

Og hva med kundeservicen?

Når kjeden skal styre reketrålere, osv.

Så tar det kanskje mye tid osv., på styre-møter, osv.

Og saker om kundeservice osv., får ikke like mye tid, da.

(Må man vel anta).

Så sånn er muligens det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Men men.

PS 24.

Her om dagen, så prøvde jeg, noen ‘kongereker’, (som muligens ‘bare’ var vanlige ishavsreker), fra Asda.

Og de hadde vært frosne, (stod det på pakken).

(Noe Tesco sine kongereker, vel ikke har vært).

Men Asda hadde bedre emballasje, (hvor trekket gikk an å rive av).

(For å si det sånn).

Så sånn var det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Men men.

PS 25.

Her er mer om dette:

http://johncons-mirror.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/mer-fra-liverpool_9.html

PS 26.

O2 rakk å sende meg en e-post, før de fortalte meg, at jeg ikke bestod kredittsjekken:

10. november 2017
Jeg fikk et brev fra Liverpool City Council

PS.

Jeg fylte ut skjemaet sånn her:

22. juli 2014
Jeg fylte ut et skjema fra Liverpool City Council

PS.

Her er mer om dette:

21. oktober 2013

Jeg registrerte boligen min, hos Liverpool City Council

PS.

Her er mer om dette:

Gmail – Confirmation of registration – Liverpool City Council

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Confirmation of registration – Liverpool City Council

voterregistration@electoralreform.co.uk

<voterregistration@electoralreform.co.uk>

Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 11:20 AM

To:

eribsskog@gmail.com

Security Code Part One: 128357

The property will be registered as follows: 14-08-2011 11:16

Property is occupied by foreign nationals not entitled to register only

Thank you for using the ERS Voter Registration Service.

Please note, this email is for information purposes only. Please do not reply as the email address is unmonitored.

14. august 2011

Det her er the Conservatives. Jeg har jo pleid å stemme Høyre i Norge, så jeg tror at hvis jeg skulle ha stemt, i England, så ville jeg ha stemt de

PS.

Men norske statsborgere, har altså ikke stemmerett, i Storbritannia.

Vi har lov å bo her, og jobbe her osv., og har de samme rettigheter, som EU-borgere, ifølge EØS-avtalen.

Men vi har ikke stemmerett.

Det har jeg sjekka etter at jeg fikk noen skjemaer i posten om jeg skulle stå i manntallet, ‘the electoral register’, for valget, eller ikke.

Så sånn er det.

Bare noe jeg kom på.

Mvh.

Erik Ribsskog

PS 2.

The Conservatives nevner også spesielt at de skal kjempe mot korrupsjon, og det syntes jeg hørtes bra ut.

Men jeg tror ikke de har noen sjangse til å vinne dette stemmeområdet, eller ‘constituency’, Liverpool Riverside, for de konservative, pleier å få veldig få stemmer i Liverpool.

Av en eller annen grunn.

Så sånn er det.

Bare noe jeg kom på.

PS 3.

Det kan jo være at postmann har noe med det her å gjøre.

For denne brosjyra skulle jo ikke til vår adresse.

Så her har postmann tulla.

Tulla han fordi det var reklame for et parti han ikke likte?

Det er spørsmålet.

Vi får se.

30. april 2010

Her er en ny e-post til Liverpool City Council, om uttrykket ‘European citizen’

Google Mail – FW: Electoral register

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

FW: Electoral register

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:27 PM

To:

"Barker, Stephen" <Stephen.Barker@liverpool.gov.uk>

Hi,

thank you very much for your answer!

I would like to point out again, that it isn't clear, that it's EU-citizens who are eligable to vote, since you use

the term 'European citizens', and not 'EU-citizen'.

So I got tricked by this, right after I moved in, to a new flat.

Because it also is a threat there, that says that I have to pay £1000 if I don't send the form, in the post.

So then I thought, that I didn't want to get a fine, for £1000, so then I sent the form in the post.

And on the airport, you also write 'European citizen', which I, as a Norwegian citizen, think is a confusing term.

On the airport, there isn't even any small printing.

One walks for about 20 more yards, and there's a new sign saying 'EU citizens', but then it's to late to turn, because

all the other people on the flight, are from the UK, so it's packed with people, so you can't turn, and walk back, in the

other queue.

So I at least, has found this term 'European citizen' used for 'EU citizen', confusing.

But anyway, I guess this is not such a big deal, It perhaps because we in Norway, learn that we are in Europe.

Since we don't only think of continental Europe, as Europe, we also include Iceland, Scandinavia and the British Isles etc.,

in Europe, when we learn about this at school, perhaps this varies from country to country, I can't really know this for sure.

You say that companies are using the electoral register, to find out, if people can get loans.

But then I think, that the UK Government, must be selling this register.

I think this practice, can be not in line with the EEA, since it discriminates EFTA-citizens, from Norway, Iceland,

Switzerland and Lichtenstein, if the UK Government, sells this register, to companies, that give loans, etc.

This is just how I think it is.

But like I wrote, I have had some problems with the communication etc., with the Norwegian embassy, in London,

so I have to think more about, how to deal with this.

I've sent an e-mail, to the Norwegian ministry of trade, since I'm in contact with them, about some other cases,

to do with the EEA, and I'm sending a complaint, on the Merseyside Police, the Home Office, etc., to the

EU-commission, for breaches, I think it's called, on the EEA-agreement, so perhaps I add about the electoral

We'll see.

Thanks again for taking the time to send an answer about this!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Barker, Stephen <Stephen.Barker@liverpool.gov.uk> wrote:

Hello

I apologise if this has caused you any confusion, but

as you state, it is clear on the registration form and on the accompanying

leaflet that it is European Union citizens who are eligible to

register.

With regard to getting a loan etc, we use the electoral

register for one purpose only and that is to ensure that anyone who is eligible

to vote has the right to do so. It is credit companies that use it for

credit checks and there is nothing that we can do to stop them using it for this

purpose.

I trust this answers your query, however if I can be of

any further assistance then please do not hesitate to contact

me.

Regards

Stephen

Barker

Asst. Elections

Manager

Electoral Services

Unit

Tel: 0151 225

3519

Fax:

0151-225-2365

E-mail:

stephen.barker@liverpool.gov.uk

Web: http://www.liverpool.gov.uk

From: Erik Ribsskog

[mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
Sent: 12 August 2009 00:01
To: Electoral Services

Subject: Electoral

register

Hi,

today, I got the form, to register, on the electoral

register, for the third time, I think it is.

On the front-page, of the form, it says 'European

[..] citizen'.

But then, it means EU-citizen, as I've been explained

earlier.

But, I'm from Norway, and Norway are in Europe, on the map, at least the last time I

checked.

Why do you use the term 'European citizen', when you

don't mean eg. Norway or

Switzerland, who are also in

Europe.

Iceland

and Lichtenstein, are also in Europe, the are European countries, at least we

learned this at school in Norway,

that Europe was one of

the 'verdensdeler', 'world-parts' or

continents.

So why do you say European citizen instead of

EU-citizen, because I think that can be a bit disrespectful, towards

the

EFTA-countries, Norway, Switzerland, Iceland and Liechtenstein,

who aren't in the EU.

Another thing I was wondering about, is that if people

apply for a loan, i the UK, they have to be in the electoral

register,

as far as I

understand.

But, Norwegians aren't allowed to be in the

electoral register, since we aren't in the

EU.

But, there is an agreement between the EFTA

countries (including Norway),

and the UK, called the

EEA-agreement,

that says that Norwegians should have the same rights,

as EU-citizens, in the EU.

But I don't think Norwegians get the same rights, to

have a loan, since we can't be in the electoral

register.

I think, to get a loan, is part of what the

EEA-agreement, is meant to cover, the four freedoms and all that, free

movement

of people, but then the Norwegians should be allowed to

get a loan.

I understand that Norwegians aren't allowed to vote,

since Norway aren't in the

EU.

But, I think, that according to the EEA, that

Norwegians should be allowed to get a loan, but this electoral

register,

it means, that we can't get a loan, since we aren't

allowed to be in the electoral register.

So this I don't think is in line with the

EEA-agreement.

Normally, I would have sent this, to the Norwegian

embassy, but they, don't answer my corresponence, even

if

an ombudsman, in Norway,

Sivilombusmannen, has told them to do so, but the embassy refuse, for more than

a

year now, to answer my correspondence, even if can't

understand why they do this.

I even went with the train, to London, with some files,

(to do with an employment-case, involving many Nordic

citizens),

to deliver them in person, instead of sending them in

the post, and still the treat me like this.

I don't think this is easy to

understand.

But anyway.

Sorry that I wrote a lot about the EEA-agreement

etc., but I hope you have the oppertunity, to explain why it

says

'European citizen', and not 'EU-citizen', on this form,

an on the John Lennon airport sometimes as well, I

remember,

from when I was there, in

2005.

Just out of curiosity, if you have the time, that

is.

Thank you very much for your help in

advance!

Yours sincerely,

Erik

Ribsskog

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12. august 2009

Jeg lurte på det her med ‘European citizen’, (se forrige bloggpost), så jeg sendte en e-post til Liverpool City Council, avd. for ‘electoral register’

Google Mail – Electoral register

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Electoral register

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:01 AM

To:

elections@liverpool.gov.uk

Hi,

today, I got the form, to register, on the electoral register, for the third time, I think it is.

On the front-page, of the form, it says 'European [..] citizen'.

But then, it means EU-citizen, as I've been explained earlier.

But, I'm from Norway, and Norway are in Europe, on the map, at least the last time I checked.

Why do you use the term 'European citizen', when you don't mean eg. Norway or Switzerland, who are also in Europe.

Iceland and Lichtenstein, are also in Europe, the are European countries, at least we learned this at school in Norway,

that Europe was one of the 'verdensdeler', 'world-parts' or continents.

So why do you say European citizen instead of EU-citizen, because I think that can be a bit disrespectful, towards the

EFTA-countries, Norway, Switzerland, Iceland and Liechtenstein, who aren't in the EU.

Another thing I was wondering about, is that if people apply for a loan, i the UK, they have to be in the electoral register,

as far as I understand.

But, Norwegians aren't allowed to be in the electoral register, since we aren't in the EU.

But, there is an agreement between the EFTA countries (including Norway), and the UK, called the EEA-agreement,

that says that Norwegians should have the same rights, as EU-citizens, in the EU.

But I don't think Norwegians get the same rights, to have a loan, since we can't be in the electoral register.

I think, to get a loan, is part of what the EEA-agreement, is meant to cover, the four freedoms and all that, free movement

of people, but then the Norwegians should be allowed to get a loan.

I understand that Norwegians aren't allowed to vote, since Norway aren't in the EU.

But, I think, that according to the EEA, that Norwegians should be allowed to get a loan, but this electoral register,

it means, that we can't get a loan, since we aren't allowed to be in the electoral register.

So this I don't think is in line with the EEA-agreement.

Normally, I would have sent this, to the Norwegian embassy, but they, don't answer my corresponence, even if

an ombudsman, in Norway, Sivilombusmannen, has told them to do so, but the embassy refuse, for more than a

year now, to answer my correspondence, even if can't understand why they do this.

I even went with the train, to London, with some files, (to do with an employment-case, involving many Nordic citizens),

to deliver them in person, instead of sending them in the post, and still the treat me like this.

I don't think this is easy to understand.

But anyway.

Sorry that I wrote a lot about the EEA-agreement etc., but I hope you have the oppertunity, to explain why it says

'European citizen', and not 'EU-citizen', on this form, an on the John Lennon airport sometimes as well, I remember,

from when I was there, in 2005.

Just out of curiosity, if you have the time, that is.

Thank you very much for your help in advance!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

12. august 2009

Den skrivemåten her, har lurt meg et par ganger, det første året jeg bodde her i England

PS.

Det er vel tredje gangen jeg får det her skjemaet nå.

Og det er for å stemme i noe slags valg dem har her da.

Og dem stemmer visst hvert år, kan det virke som(?)

Ihvertfall så sender dem ut det skjemaet her, en gang i året, for det er tredje gangen jeg har fått det i posten, og det stemmer nok siden jeg har bodd her i tre år og noen uker nå.

Så den første gangen jeg fikk det her skjemaet, så hadde jeg bare bodd her i noen uker.

Og da var jeg litt stressa, for jeg dreiv og kjøpte inn ting til leiligheten osv.

Så da sendte jeg inn det skjemaet, for jeg litt stressa, som sagt.

For da, siden jeg var stressa, så tenkte jeg, at Norge, er jo i Europa, derfor er jeg en europeisk statsborger, dvs. en ‘European citizen’.

Siden jeg er en statsborger fra et europeisk land.

Men så ikke.

En måned eller to seinere, så fikk jeg et litt ‘surt’ brev i posten, om at norske statsborgere ikke skulle stå i valgregisteret, ‘the electoral register’, siden vi ikke fikk lov å stemme, i de her valga dem har her borte da.

Hva nå de valga går ut på.

Så sånn er det.

Og nordmenn, de får da heller ikke lån, i England, såvidt jeg har forstått.

For alle långivere, de krever at du må være registrert, i the electoral register da, for å få lån.

Så det er jo bare surr, for norske statsborgere i England.

Og hva gjør ambassaden?

Ingenting.

De skulle jo ha fått britene til å rydde opp i dette kaoset, men det gjør de ikke.

Norge er vel det eneste EFTA-landet, ved siden av Island, som er naboland, til Storbritannia.

Så Norge burde ha ryddet opp i dette tullet.

For britene pisser jo på EFTA-landene Norge, Island, Sveits og Lichtenstein, når de skriver det på den måten der.

At de skriver ‘European citizen’, europeisk statsborger, istedet for EU-citizen, som er det som menes, med det som jeg har streket under, på skjemaet, på bildet, det menes EU-statsborger, men de skriver ‘European citizen’, istedet, dvs. europeisk statsborger.

Det er jo som å spytte i trynet på nordmenn, islendinger, sveitsere og folk fra Lichtenstein, og si at vi ikke er fra Europa.

Det er jo helt på trynet.

Men ambassadefolka, de får jo det samme skjemaet som meg, i posten, hvert år.

Men hva gjør de?

Ikke en dritt tydligevis.

De er visst så opptatt av å drikke champagne og spise kanapeer, på fine motagelser, i London, så dette skjemaet, og denne fornærmelsen mot nordmenn, den legger de ikke merke til engang, men bare fortsetter med champagnedrikkingen osv.

Så sånn er det.

Så det blir nok johncons-blogg, som må prøve å ordne opp i dette, har jeg nesten litt på følelsen av.

Vi får se hva som skjer.

Mvh.

Erik Ribsskog

11. august 2009