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  • Person on Chatterbox acting anoying.

    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    sigmatix
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 20:04:26

    The girl did something illegal. THe police
    restrained her. The police searched her. The
    police in liverpool do not go around raping
    girls in the middle of Matthew Street.

    And there is ALWays loads of police in
    matthew street at night. its a trouble
    hot-spot with all the drunks and so on.

    You ever thought you only saw half of what
    actually happened? You make a LOT of
    assumptions and I bet most of them are wrong
    because you DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

    And what it comes down to it, what good is
    this going to do? If someone bad did happen
    (which it didnt) someone (the girl in
    question or a passer-by) would have done
    something about it.

    The reason you didnt see this in the echo is
    because NOTHING HAPPENED. Some drunk girl
    just got stopped and dealt with by the
    police. The police were doing their job.

    Your post is full of phrases like ‘it seems’
    and ‘maybe’ and ‘i couldnt understand’
    because you dont know and youve made
    assumptions on what happened, or maybe what
    you would have liked to have happened to fit
    in with some of the other subjects on your
    blog.

    And for the record, it wasnt the new world
    order that deleted the earlier thread, it was
    the site moderators. Also doing their job.

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    sigmatix
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 20:07:40

    And furthermore, this happened like 2 months
    ago. Why on earth didnt you report it the
    next day? Have you actually done anything
    about this besides ramble about it on the
    internet? Why didnt you intervene at the
    time? Why was your first instinct, on seeing
    a girl in troubel, was to take a picture and
    post it on your blog weeks later? Hardly the
    behaviour of a good citizen.

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    sigmatix
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 20:09:08

    ‘Like they had done things like this many
    times before, and almost didn’t have to
    think. ‘

    What you mean like GOING TO ARREST SOMEONE?
    Yeah, I think the police might have done that
    once or twice before. Hell, it may well have
    been in their training. Spooky or what?

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    sigmatix
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 20:13:01

    Oh and Erik? Gerry says hi and he’ll be
    around next week.

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    johncons
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 21:10:40

    Sigmatix, I think you should maybe try to
    calm down a bit.

    I don’t think it’s alright to write people
    three messages, with questions/comments.

    You should only write me one comment I
    think.

    And in a polite way.

    First I think you should go for a walk around
    the block, and calm down a bit.

    Erik Ribsskog

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  • More about the girl that was being messed with, by Police, in Matthew St.

    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    sigmatix
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 16:36:31

    What on earth do you mean ‘raped in some
    way’?

    There is only one way for someone to be
    raped.

    And are you seriously suggesting that several
    policemen sexually assaulted someone in full
    view of the public in a busy city centre
    simply for the sake of it?

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    johncons
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 16:51:18

    Like I’ve written twice already, in the
    thread that seems to have disappeared.

    It seems to me that the girl must have been
    the subject of a cavity-check, or that the
    Police raped the poor thing, like the user on
    LiveLeak wrote it.

    I’m just writing what I saw with my own eyes,
    I don’t want to speculate, on why the Police
    acted like this.

    That one would have to ask the Police.

    So I’ll just explain what I saw happened.

    That’s why I brought it up here, to tell what
    I saw, and to get feedback, on what people
    think has been going on.

    This has been puzling on my mind, for some
    time, why the girl was made to bend over the
    litter-bin, for at least five to ten
    minuttes, and why she was made to howl.

    Erik Ribsskog

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    johncons
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 17:36:51

    And to write more about the woman.

    She wasn’t acting like a ‘scally-girl’, or
    anything like that.

    She wasn’t agressive at all.

    She was screaming the whole time.

    And she acted like a woman really, she was
    defenseless against the brutal man, and the
    police-officers.

    She was in panic, I’d say, and afraid, or in
    shock.

    I couldn’t understand why she screamed, I
    tried to look at her, to understand what went
    on, when I was standing there, but I couldn’t
    understand.

    She didn’t look agressive, but she looked
    like she was in pain, and that she didn’t
    have any control of what went on.

    Like an animal that was being hunted, and was
    in pain.

    Something like that.

    Just to try to explain.

    Erik Ribsskog

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    johncons
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 18:59:41

    I’ve tried to recall what went on.

    When I saw this sceen, the brutal man, was
    holding the arm of the woman, on her back I
    think it was, and at the same time, pushing
    the woman, up Matthew St.

    And they were being followed by between eight
    and eleven police-officers, I’d say.

    So it was a very strange situation, to
    suddently be in the middle of.

    When they were maybe a meter or two, in front
    of me, the man grabbed the womans breast, and
    pushed her or let her go.

    The police-officers, where right in their
    heels.

    It could maybe have been, that the man, took
    the woman, as a hostage.

    And that he was a criminal, being followed by
    the police.

    The man, looked like he was in his late
    twenties or thirties, I’d say.

    He had a very though look in his face, and
    might have been a hard-boiled criminal, one
    could guess.

    He looked strong, like he was working with
    some kind of body-work, or something like
    that.

    Not the guy you would want to meet, in a dark
    alley, at night, if he was in a bad mood, to
    explain it like that.

    I can’t understand why he would grab the
    womans breast.

    She was screaming before he did that also I
    think.

    Maybe in fear, or in panic, or in pain.

    The police-officers, where controling her, in
    no-time, like she was a criminal, three or
    four, went after her.

    And three or four, went after the man.

    Almost like an army-drill, from the Police.

    They seemed very coordinated.

    Like they had done things like this many
    times before, and almost didn’t have to
    think.

    The girl didn’t say anything at all, and
    didn’t act agressive at all, against the
    Police, who placed her next to the
    litter-bin, some meters away, from where the
    man let her go.

    I couldn’t really see what happened to the
    man, but I thought the Police managed to
    catch him, and that three or four of them,
    brought him somewhere, possibly to a car.

    But he could have also managed to get away, I
    didn’t manage to notice exactly what
    happened.

    But that some type of strange/serious
    situation has happened, that’s clear to me.

    I can’t really say, what the Police did to
    the girl for at least five or ten minutes,
    when she was leaning over the litter-bin, and
    screamed.

    But I think it looked like the
    Police-officers, went far to close to her,
    and I think the female police-officer, should
    have been frisking her, or what they did.

    So I didn’t see exactly what the Police did,
    since they covered the view so well, so one
    couldn’t see where they touched the girl
    etc.

    But the whole situation, looked very strange
    to me, so I think that it’s highly possible
    that the Police did something wrong.

    But I’m not an expert on Police-work.

    People knowing more about how the Police are
    meant to do their work, would be able to
    explain more, if the Police did anything
    wrong or not.

    A user, on LiveLeak, thought, like I’ve
    written earlier, that the Police could have
    been doing a cavety-search, or raped the poor
    thing, like he wrote.

    But it could also be, that they just tried to
    calm her down, in some strange way.

    I can’t say for sure unfortunatly, since I
    couldn’t understand why the girl screamed.

    I didn’t see anyone doing anything to her,
    like the mentioned things.

    But she was so sheltered/covered, by the
    three police-officers, so it might have been
    that the fourth officer, did something
    illigal, like the user on LiveLeak
    mentioned.

    But I think that if I tell what I saw, then
    maybe other people, with more knowledge of
    the Police-rutines, could understand more
    about, what really went on.

    So it would be interesting, if someone, that
    were experienced in Police-work, could try to
    explain the situation.

    Also, I think it’s strange, that this
    incident, haven’t been in the news, like in
    the Echo, or something like that, since it
    didn’t seem like something that should happen
    on your normal Saturday night, out on town,
    to me.

    Erik Ribsskog

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  • Thread that was deleted from the UKChatterbox (some New World Order stuff?), about that the Police seemes to have raped a girl in Matthew St., Lpool.

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    Police raped girl in Matthew St.,
    Liverpool, it seems.


    johncons
    Date: 2008-08-08
    Time: 20:50:14 Edited by:fsm

    I’ve reported on LiveLeak[censored], that a
    couple of months ago, on a Saturday night,
    when I was walking down Matthew St., I saw a
    guy, pushing a girl infront of himself,
    grabing her breast hard, before letting her
    go, just before, about eight or ten
    police-officers, cought up with them.

    Three Police-officers, got control on the
    girl, and surrounded her, after placing her,
    next to a litter-bin.

    Then the frisking, or what it was, began.

    The girl was made to bend over the
    litter-bin, while all three Police-officers
    were standing very close, one hidden by the
    two others, and even by a fourt officer, who
    was standing back to back, with the three
    earlier mentioned officers.

    Then the moaning/howling from the girl began,
    and went on for at least five to ten minutes,
    while she was standing there, bending over
    the litter-bin.

    A user on LiveLeak, thought that the Police,
    could have conducted a cavety-search, or
    raped the poor thing, like he wrote.

    The girl looked like a vitim of the earlier
    mentioned man, pushing her up Matthew St., to
    me, so I don’t understand what the Police,
    were doing, she seemed harmless, and there
    shouldn’t be any reason to do anything with
    her, that made her scream/howl/moan, for five
    to ten minutes.

    I couldn’t actually see any frisking eighter,
    the policeofficer, who did the frisking, or
    what it was, was hidden by the other
    officers.

    But the girl had going-out clothes, so I
    can’t see why the Police would need to frisk
    her eighter.

    So, I wonder if the user on LiveLeak was
    right, that Police raped or abused her, and
    that this was the reason for the howling
    etc.

    I took a picture of the incident, which I
    posted on LiveLeak.

    I’ll see if I can find the link.

    So if anyone understand what went on, then
    feedback about this, would be appriciated,
    because I don’t think the Police should do
    things like these.

    Erik (edited)

    PS.

    Here’s the link to the post regarding this
    incident, on LiveLeak:

    (edited)

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    mysterious_x
    Date: 2008-08-08
    Time: 20:51:21

    oh thats bad

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    diamond001
    Date: 2008-08-08
    Time: 20:51:55

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    mysterious_x
    Date: 2008-08-08
    Time: 20:52:48

    the police seem to think they can do woteva
    they like and get away with it

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    apapa
    Date: 2008-08-08
    Time: 20:59:45

    The picture is nothing like your story. There
    are 2 female officers and one male. Maybe she
    was annoyed and drunk moaning, maybe she was
    throwing up. How do you get that she was
    being raped by them?

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    apapa
    Date: 2008-08-08
    Time: 21:04:34

    Sorry, just to add that by posting this on
    not one but at least 3 websites you’ve left
    yourself open in case the police would like
    to prosecute you for slander. I thank you and
    goodnight

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    mysterious_x
    Date: 2008-08-08
    Time: 21:08:21

    lmao

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    johncons
    Date: 2008-08-08
    Time: 21:12:15 Edited by:fsm

    No, there were four Police-officers
    surrounding the girl.

    I’ve explained about it here:

    (edited)

    And I remember that the officer frisking the
    girl, or what he did, was not a female
    officer.

    And there is freedom of speach, people are
    allowed to write about what they see.

    And I think people have a responsiblity, to
    report things like abuse from Police, this is
    of course the only responsible thing to do,
    one can’t let the Police get away with
    everything, and acting like they think they
    are Judge Dreed, like it seems to me that
    they think.

    And it seems to me, that this get worse and
    worse, so I think people have a
    responsiblity, to report abuse and other
    types of unprofessional conduct, from the
    Police.

    Erik (edited)

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    mysterious_x
    Date: 2008-08-08
    Time: 21:15:24

    only female officers are allowed to frisk
    females and males to frisk males

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    apapa
    Date: 2008-08-08
    Time: 21:22:35

    and she was from Liverpool
    And you’re from where?
    From my youth I know there are plenty things
    you can hide in plenty places despite wearing
    tight clothes. Theres a distinct lack of
    female bouncers on club doors so who do you
    think carries stuff into clubs? The girls. If
    your so upset complain to the police about
    what you think you saw. Months ago.

    You have no idea what the girl was doing, who
    the man was, what the police did or didn’t do
    to her. Just you carry on making it up as you
    go along luv.

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    reptiliantracker
    Date: 2008-08-08
    Time: 21:27:09 Edited by:chris20

    i saw that link my self !

    it doesn’t need an interpretation !

    actions speak for them self .

    she was stripped ! end stop .
    by 2 women and one man !

    i saw that link my self on martial law police
    .what they can do at present and get away
    with , and so martial law will be worse .

    why ?

    coz too many [censored] footing bstrds walk
    bye and do nothing ! too many accept this
    behaviour and condone it in their inactions
    as not their business .
    it is due to these inactors that these laws
    and acts are committed !
    if people actually woke up and got off their
    fat ass than done something , authorities
    would not do such things in our faces !

    wake up people , it doesn’t matter if they
    are a crook or police or the [censored] king
    of bloody Babylon !

    YOU HAVE A DUTY TO HUMANITY !

    we are what we do !

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    johncons
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 00:10:59 Edited by:fsm

    Ok,

    I wasn’t aware of that someone had posted
    about this on yet another site.

    You haven’t got a link by the way, since I
    think it would have been interesting to see
    what the people other site thinks.

    Thanks in advance if you have the time to
    find the link!

    Erik (edited)

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    benibabe
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 00:13:22

    shockinggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

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    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    angellove
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 00:40:07

    wow..
    <<<<speachless>>>>>
    ;

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    tinzel501
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 01:17:14

    wtf?????????

    fooking bizzies grrrrrrrrrrrrr

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    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    apapa
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 12:03:51

    If you look really closely you can see Elvis
    in the background too, standing next to Lord
    Lucan. What are you [censored]ing about? You
    did nothing yourself. Is this to appease your
    conscience over something that may or may not
    have happened and your impotent actions on
    the night and for months after?

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    reptiliantracker
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 12:08:39

    apapa ?

    sounds like you’ve hit a point there apapa !

    i do hate cowardice my self .

    we are what we DO and do not .

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    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    soulguider
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 13:51:30

    looks to me like a set up.. a stunt to bad
    mouth the police.. just another excuse for
    ppl to shout "POLICE BRUTALITY".
    as for the creator of this thread to stand by
    and do nothing then ur as bad the rest…!!
    if this was real why wud you just stand
    there..?
    you just another sick voyeur..!!

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    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    reptiliantracker
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 14:09:22

    the thead is about a true situation on camera
    but at the end of it all we have no idea if
    those in it were actors .

    iether way , a person who stands there doing
    nothing about it is condoning it through
    inaction that accepts the present situation .

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    johncons
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 15:16:28 Edited by:fsm

    Just a little reminder, since I started this
    thread.

    And that is, that this thread is about what
    the Police did.

    If someone want to discuss what I did, then
    please just contact me on my blog, which the
    address of, is listed in my profil here.

    Then it should be easier to stick to the case
    here, which is the Police’s actions.

    Just so that the thread isn’t going out of
    track.

    Hope this is alright!

    Erik (edited)

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    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    antagonizer
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 15:24:14

    i have not heard anything about this and i
    work security and the doors in and around
    wigan an have constant link with the police
    frequency i think this is a wind up ! and a
    sick 1 at that (peace out )

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    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    reptiliantracker
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 15:27:24

    antagoniser ?

    last 2 nights on the net i saw a u toob on
    police brutality on martial law .
    it was no wind up .

    but !

    cannot prove was police .

    as for the thread creator , i was getting at
    you , just saying that people who do nothing
    at the time , are not worthy of citizenship
    let alone living here as we British have a
    duty to hold up for all humanity .

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    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    missdiorcherie
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 15:43:23

    if that story is true, then thats awful and
    something should def be done about it
    but if its not, with all ur talk of
    moaning/screaming/howling, i think i need to
    get me some

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    sigmatix
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 16:18:57

    This isnt a wind-up, but neither is it true.
    I suggest you all have a look at this guy’s
    blog. Some very…erm…interesting stuff on
    there. It gives this post some context.

    Look at the picture regarding this. Its
    night- time, on Matthew street (one of the
    busiest parts of that street too) in full
    view of the public. And your seriously
    expecting us to believe this girl was raped.
    By the Police. In full view of passing
    memebers of the public?

    Ill tell you what probably happened. The girl
    did something wrong, drunk and disorderly,
    having a fight, I dont know. The police are
    simply restraining her from hurting herself
    or others. They are searching her (which is
    normal procedure for anyone whos committed a
    crime) and general following procedure.

    Anything else I genuinely think is a product
    of the same over-active imaganation thats
    produced that blog:
    [censored]johncons-mirror.blogspot[censored]/
    search/label/The%20Queen%20of%20England
    [censored]johncons-mirror.blogspot[censored]/
    search/label/Liverpool%20Central%20CAB
    [censored]johncons-mirror.blogspot[censored]/
    search/label/Burger%20King

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    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    sigmatix
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 16:20:58

    Its a pain with the censoring ‘www’ and
    ‘[censored]’? If thats supposed to stop spam
    and such its a bit of a sledgehammer to crack
    a nut. *shrug* oh well.

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    Re: Police raped girl in Matthew
    St., Liverpool, it seems.


    johncons
    Date: 2008-08-09
    Time: 16:26:38

    Not at all,

    I’m just telling you what I saw with my own
    eyes.

    I’ve been wondering about whay made the girl
    howl.

    And a person on LiveLeak, who seemed to know
    a thing about police-work, wrote that he
    thought it might have been a cavety-cheek, or
    that they raped the poor thing, like he
    wrote.

    Like I wrote earlier, there were three
    police-officers surrounding the girl, and a
    forth, covering them, standing back to back.

    I think it seems like the Police must have
    raped the girl in some way.

    Since she was bending over the litter-bin,
    and howling, for at least five to ten
    minutes, while a male police-officer, was
    doing something between her legs, covered by
    three other police-officers.

    Erik Ribsskog

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    Police raped girl in Matthew St.,
    Liverpool, it seems.


    johncons
    Date: 2008-08-08
    Time: 20:50:14

    I’ve reported on LiveLeak[censored], that a
    couple of months ago, on a Saturday night,
    when I was walking down Matthew St., I saw a
    guy, pushing a girl infront of himself,
    grabing her breast hard, before letting her
    go, just before, about eight or ten
    police-officers, cought up with them.

    Three Police-officers, got control on the
    girl, and surrounded her, after placing her,
    next to a litter-bin.

    Then the frisking, or what it was, began.

    The girl was made to bend over the
    litter-bin, while all three Police-officers
    were standing very close, one hidden by the
    two others, and even by a fourt officer, who
    was standing back to back, with the three
    earlier mentioned officers.

    Then the moaning/howling from the girl began,
    and went on for at least five to ten minutes,
    while she was standing there, bending over
    the litter-bin.

    A user on LiveLeak, thought that the Police,
    could have conducted a cavety-search, or
    raped the poor thing, like he wrote.

    The girl looked like a vitim of the earlier
    mentioned man, pushing her up Matthew St., to
    me, so I don’t understand what the Police,
    were doing, she seemed harmless, and there
    shouldn’t be any reason to do anything with
    her, that made her scream/howl/moan, for five
    to ten minutes.

    I couldn’t actually see any frisking eighter,
    the policeofficer, who did the frisking, or
    what it was, was hidden by the other
    officers.

    But the girl had going-out clothes, so I
    can’t see why the Police would need to frisk
    her eighter.

    So, I wonder if the user on LiveLeak was
    right, that Police raped or abused her, and
    that this was the reason for the howling
    etc.

    I took a picture of the incident, which I
    posted on LiveLeak.

    I’ll see if I can find the link.

    So if anyone understand what went on, then
    feedback about this, would be appriciated,
    because I don’t think the Police should do
    things like these.

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS.

    Here’s the link to the post regarding this
    incident, on LiveLeak:

    [censored]liveleak[censored]/view?i=51b_12177
    44494&c=1#comments

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