johncons

Stikkord: Sensur/innskrenkninger i ytringsfriheten.

  • Jeg har visst blitt ‘mutebannet’ på Wikipedias irc-kanal, sier en på kanalen ##Norge, på freenode-net. (In Norwegian)

    Session Start: Mon May 25 21:24:22 2009
    Session Ident: ##norge
    [21:24] * Now talking in ##norge
    [21:24] * Topic is 'Et tu, Brute?'
    [21:24] * Set by Aqwis on Mon May 18 23:21:54
    [21:24] * ChanServ sets mode: +v john_cons
    [21:24] <john_cons> hm
    [21:24] <john_cons> bare testa om det gikk ann ? skrive
    [21:24] <john_cons> for det funker ikke p? wikipedia kanalen
    [21:24] <john_cons> #wikipedia-no Cannot send to channel
    [21:25] <Aqwis> hei
    [21:25] <Aqwis> er det ikke selveste john_cons
    [21:26] <Aqwis> du er mutebannet fra #wikipedia-no
    [21:26] <Aqwis> s?? du kan ikke snakke
    [21:27] <john_cons> ja, det kan stemme
    [21:27] <Aqwis> jepp
    [21:27] <Aqwis> brb
    [21:27] <john_cons> sensuren lenge leve
    [21:27] <john_cons> kjenner jeg deg forresten
    [21:27] <john_cons> ok
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    [21:37] <Aqwis> joda
    [21:37] <Aqwis> s??k etter navnet mitt p?? bloggen din
    [21:37] <john_cons> ok, jeg f?r pr?ve det
    [21:37] <john_cons> et sec
    [21:40] <john_cons> ja jeg ser jeg prata med deg et par ganger ifjor var det vel
    [21:40] <john_cons> men jeg fant vel aldri ut hvem du egentlig var
    [21:47] <john_cons> hva betyr nicket ditt, noe med vann?
    [21:48] <Aqwis> nei, det betyr ingenting.
    [21:48] <john_cons> ?key, hva er det med kanalnavnet da
    [21:48] <Aqwis> navnet p?? landet vi bor i? :p
    [21:48] <john_cons> jeg ble kneblet p? wiki fordi jeg tar opp noe problemer der vel
    [21:48] <john_cons> ok men hva med to firkanter, eller hva det tegnet heter
    [21:48] <Aqwis> hash
    [21:49] <john_cons> riktig
    [21:49] <john_cons> holder ikke med en hash da
    [21:49] <Aqwis> det m?? v??re to av de fordi vi ikke er et open source-prosjekt
    [21:49] <john_cons> de andre irc kanalene har bare en
    [21:49] <john_cons> men men
    [21:49] <Aqwis> ##linux, for eksempel
    [21:49] <john_cons> det er sikkert bare meg som er dum
    [21:49] <john_cons> ?ja
    [21:50] <john_cons> er du s?nn linux kar du
    [21:50] <Aqwis> hehe
    [21:50] <john_cons> jeg har en sak mot bertelsmann/microsoft
    [21:50] <Aqwis> ja, jeg s?? det p?? bloggen din
    [21:50] <john_cons> som jeg sliter med ? komme videre med
    [21:50] <john_cons> okey
    [21:50] <john_cons> jeg tror microsoft nok har mange venner her i england eller noe
    [21:50] <john_cons> ikke lett ? f? fri rettshjelp ihvertfall
    [21:50] <john_cons> men men
    [21:50] <Aqwis> ja, de er et stort selskap vet du
    [21:51] <john_cons> ja, men det er jo ikke ment ? v?re s?nn da, at de skal kunne skal vinne bare fordi de er store
    [21:51] <Aqwis> brb
    [21:51] <john_cons> ok np
    [21:51] <john_cons> b?de jeg og bertesmann og microsoft er en 'juridisk person'
    [21:52] <john_cons> s? i teorien s? skal vi st? likt i utgangspunktet, juridisk sett
    [21:52] <john_cons> at alle er like for loven osv
    [21:52] <john_cons> men men
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    PS.

    Jeg prøvde å sette fokus på et problem, på Wikipedia, hvor det virket for meg, som at Orkla prøvde å diktere Wikipedia, gjennom Flums aka Philip Gabrielsen, sønnen til Ansgar Gabrielsen, som hadde en slags ekstrajobb, i Stabburet, som en av sine ca. fem jobber, var det vel.

    Det som skjedde var at det var noe ‘cover-up’ av Jeblad, på Wikipedia, som sa at det var en ‘practical joke’, fra Flums.

    Men senere, så har Flums fortalt meg det, at han faktisk jobbet i Stabburet på dette tidspunktet, og at han er sønnen til Ansgar Gabrielsen.

    Jeg hadde ikke pratet med Flums, på Wikipedia, før dette skjedde, så at det skulle ha vært en spøk, virker usannsynlig.

    Nå virker det helt sikkert for meg, som at det var en cover-up, fra Jeblad & Co.

    Og Flums har også skrevet om meg på sin hjemmeside, ‘John Cons om du leser dette så er jeg like i hælene på deg’.

    Og dette er person, Flums/Philip Gabrielsen, som er med i styret, på Wikipedia.

    Så sånn er det.

    Med vennlig hilsen

    Erik Ribsskog

  • Mer om problemene med styring utenfra og nettverk på Wikipedia. (In Norwegian)

    Session Start: Mon May 25 18:16:50 2009
    Session Ident: #wikipedia-no
    [18:16] * Now talking in #wikipedia-no
    [18:16] * Topic is 'I samma stund som segern var klar sprang m??nniskor i Oslo ut p?? sina balkonger och sj??ng refr??ngen till ???Fairytale??? och spelade luftfiol || There's no wikipedia like no.wikipedia'
    [18:16] * Set by ZorroIII on Sun May 17 11:12:55
    [18:16] #wikipedia-no url is http://no.wikipedia.org
    [18:17] <john_cons> hei, jeg tenkte jeg skulle ta opp det med sensurfors?ket til flums og cover-up fra jeblad
    [18:17] <john_cons> at flums jobba i stabburet og fikk direktiv fra orkla om ? ikke la meg skrive om grandiosa
    [18:17] <john_cons> og jeblad sa det var en 'practical joke'
    [18:18] <john_cons> men senere har flums fortalt meg at han er s?nn av ansgar gabrielsen, har fem jobber, bl.a. i stabburet
    [18:18] <john_cons> jeg ser p? dette som sensurfors?k og nettverk innen wikipedia
    [18:18] <john_cons> som ?delegger for objektiviteten og uanvhengigheten til wikipedia
    [18:18] <john_cons> ..
    [18:21] <ZorroIII> eh
    [18:21] <ZorroIII> vi gidder ikke diskutere noe med deg f??r du fjerner alt om wikipedia og folk fra wikipedia fra bloggen din
    [18:21] <Profoss> artig artig, mail fra indonesisk wikipedia, p?? indonesisk
    [18:22] <ZorroIII> Profoss: har du satt spr??k der?
    [18:22] <Profoss> ZorroIII: jeg tror jeg aldri har v??rt innom der en gang
    [18:22] <ZorroIII> du har sikkert hoppa innom en gang og s?? blitt SUL'a der
    [18:22] <Profoss> ahh, sikkert
    [18:22] <Profoss> jeg husker jeg klikket p?? alle interwikilenkene p?? en artikkel akkurat
    [18:23] <Profoss> og mailen jeg har f??tt ser ut som noe velkomstgreier
    [18:24] <Profoss> ZorroIII: hmm, foresten, jeg trodde geografimalen regnet ut befolkningstall automagisk
    [18:24] <Profoss> befolkningstetthet mener jeg
    [18:24] <ZorroIII> henter ikke den no' greier fra en datamal?
    [18:24] <ZorroIII> Tubarao!
    [18:25] <Profoss> vet ikke, jeg driver ?? legger til en mal p?? Mauritanske regioner
    [18:25] <Profoss> og stusset p?? at den ikke regnet det ut automagisk
    [18:25] <ZorroIII> men tror den er avhengig av at alle data er oppgitt uten mellomrom og med . som desimalskille
    [18:25] <Profoss> check
    [18:26] <Profoss> men ser ut som den malen jeg bruker ikke bruker formatordningen p?? areal, bare p?? befolkning
    [18:27] <ZorroIII> har ikke satt meg inn i hvordan dette virker, kun sett den omtalt
    [18:27] <Profoss> ditto
    [18:28] * Kanonkas is now known as One_Tree_Hill
    [18:28] <Profoss> burde det ikke v??rt gjennomf??rbart ?? samle nesten alle geografiske enheter i en og samme mal?
    [18:29] <Profoss> er et ekstremt dugnadsprosjekt muligens
    [18:30] <john_cons> ZorroIII: det er en litt tynn unnskyldning vel, pfu sier at det er lov ? skrive om folk p? blogg
    [18:31] <Profoss> NEI
    [18:31] <Profoss> beste unnskyldningen i verden
    [18:32] <john_cons> dere er seri?se, m? jeg si
    [18:32] <ZorroIII> john_cons: men det du driver med er sjikane og uthenging, som er ulovlig
    [18:32] <Profoss> bloggen er til sjenanse for alle involverte
    [18:32] <john_cons> dere vil ikke diskutere flums og jeblad dere luringer, s? dere begynner ? diskutere meg istedet 🙂
    [18:32] <john_cons> luringene
    [18:32] <ZorroIII> vi diskuterer ikke noe med deg f??r du fjerner alt t??vet du har lagt ut
    [18:33] <john_cons> 😉
    [18:33] <Profoss> det kalles mobbing og g??r ut over uskyldige personer, personer som driter fullstendig i tankene og meningene dine, men siden de har befunnet seg i veien for konspirasjonsteoriene dine har du funnet det for godt ?? henge dem ut offentlig, OFFENTLIG, med fullt navn
    [18:33] <Profoss> ikke sitt her og si at du ikke forst??r at folk kan ta det ille opp
    [18:33] <ZorroIII> inkludert loggen fra i g??r, som du ekslplisitt ble fortalt ikke skulle logges
    [18:33] <john_cons> dere kan ikke blande s?nn, det er noe som heter ? ta en sak av gangen..
    [18:33] <john_cons> har dere ikke h?rt om det da?
    [18:34] <john_cons> dere bruker bloggen min som unnskyldning for ? ikke ta opp problemer p? wikipedia
    [18:34] <john_cons> seri?st
    [18:35] <john_cons> brb
    [18:41] <john_cons> dette er her er en sak som viser at wikipedia ikke har noen integritert, men blir styrt utenfra og fra nettverk, dere kan ikke bare begynne ? pirke p? bloggen min da, og late som at problemene ikke eksisterer
    [18:42] <john_cons> ?rlig talt
    [18:44] <john_cons> bbl
    [18:45] * Disconnected
    Session Close: Mon May 25 18:48:20 2009

    Session Start: Mon May 25 18:50:28 2009
    Session Ident: #wikipedia-no
    [18:50] * Now talking in #wikipedia-no
    [18:50] * Topic is 'I samma stund som segern var klar sprang m??nniskor i Oslo ut p?? sina balkonger och sj??ng refr??ngen till ???Fairytale??? och spelade luftfiol || There's no wikipedia like no.wikipedia'
    [18:50] * Set by ZorroIII on Sun May 17 11:12:55
    [18:50] #wikipedia-no url is http://no.wikipedia.org
    [18:51] -ChanServ- You have been quieted on #wikipedia-no by btd
    [18:51] * ChanServ sets mode: +b %*!*@host86-143-19-177.range86-143.btcentralplus.com
    [18:52] <Kagee> n
    [18:55] * Disconnected
    Session Close: Mon May 25 18:55:10 2009

  • Jeg ble bannet fra #USA på Undernet, da jeg spurte om det var sånn at amerikanerne hater svensker siden de sender hat-predikanter til Sverige. (N)

    [18:57] <ChrstphrR> ILAR – well, you're here now…  this is another network.
    [18:57] <ILAR> ya I know cristopher
    [18:57] <ILAR> thanks god
    [18:58] <Son_of_thor> No USA is rich.. It?s not poor! Well appart from the big debt they have 🙂
    [18:58] <ILAR> I don't think they are ricj
    [18:58] <ILAR> rich
    [18:58] <ILAR> they have lot of poverty
    [18:58] <ILAR> and lot of violence
    [18:58] <ILAR> caused by that poverty
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    [18:58] <ILAR> they don't have social helps and social rights
    [18:58] <GordianKnot> Yeah..I like the US
    [18:58] <GordianKnot> 🙂
    [18:58] <ChrstphrR> Real poor people, aren't overweight.
    [18:58] <ILAR> for me Norway is a rich country not USA
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    [18:59] <Son_of_thor> Norway is rich yes.
    [18:59] <GordianKnot> obesity indicates poverty
    [18:59] <Son_of_thor> But Norway is also very small
    [18:59] <GordianKnot> :)))
    [18:59] <ILAR> norway is not usa
    [18:59] <ILAR> well and?
    [18:59] <GordianKnot> it means they eat only junkfood
    [18:59] <GordianKnot> because it's cheap
    [18:59] <GordianKnot> : p
    [18:59] <ChrstphrR> GordianKnot – you're from Romania aren't you?
    [18:59] <CelticGem> Obesity doesnt fall into any status
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    [18:59] <ChrstphrR> How many fat AND poor people did you know of there?
    [18:59] <GordianKnot> well yes I am
    [18:59] <GordianKnot> guilty as charged
    [18:59] <GordianKnot> many
    [18:59] <CelticGem> and junkfood is expensive
    [18:59] <Son_of_thor> But it?s lots of positive records that Norway has, more gold medals per capitia in olympics than any other nation.. but in Winter OL and SUmmer OL
    [18:59] <GordianKnot> no it's not
    [18:59] <GordianKnot> here it isn't
    [18:59] * ChrstphrR sets mode: -b *!*@Othmane.users.undernet.org
    [19:00] <Son_of_thor> But Norway is small!
    [19:00] <ILAR> christopher i bet that any og those fat persons are rich
    [19:00] <ChrstphrR> A friend I know from there was thin as a rail all his life, because of the food lines and rationing there.
    [19:00] <Son_of_thor> I think that America is better in many ways..
    [19:00] <ILAR> they eat junk food because its cheap and because they don't have any culture
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    [19:00] <Son_of_thor> Scandinaiva is almost communistic..
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    [19:00] <ILAR> rich people in usa buy vegetables fish meat cereals fruits
    [19:00] <ILAR> etc
    [19:00] <Son_of_thor> We pay over 50% in taxes
    [19:00] <GordianKnot> well I dunno about your friend but lotsa poor people here are obese
    [19:00] <ILAR> not macdonalds crap
    [19:00] <CelticGem> ILAR vegetables are affordable nowdays
    [19:00] <ILAR> scandinavia communist?
    [19:01] * X sets mode: +l 114
    [19:01] <ChrstphrR> GordianKnot – there's more prosperity there if the poor can be fat.
    [19:01] <ILAR> what are you saying?
    [19:01] <GordianKnot> i'm very thin and I'm not poor at all.
    [19:01] <CelticGem> ILAR you have no idea what you're talking about
    [19:01] <Son_of_thor> Yes if you are poor then you can only afford low quality food!!
    [19:01] <ILAR> celtic you are who don't have any idea
    [19:01] <GordianKnot> I'm quite fine,living a modest life,thank God
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    [19:01] <Son_of_thor> High quality food costs more.. Good meat and good vegtables and fruits cost more than some can food..
    [19:01] <GordianKnot> : p
    [19:01] <ILAR> usa is a poor country
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    [19:01] <GordianKnot> no.USA is pretty wealthy
    [19:01] <GordianKnot> 😀
    [19:01] <CelticGem> check the statistics
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    [19:01] <ILAR> maybe they are strong outside but inside they are not better than colombia or southamerica in a whole
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    [19:02] <^Princess^> kisses
    [19:02] <ILAR> for me usa is like colombia
    [19:02] <Q^TE> ^Princess^ :))
    [19:02] <ILAR> rich countries with a lot of poverty inside
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    [19:02] <PatricQ> usa belongs to china now, thats where all the money comes from these days 😉
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    [19:02] <Son_of_thor> Per person than Scandinavia is slightly richer than USA.. But USA is far richer than average European!!!
    [19:02] <CelticGem> ILAR have you actually been to the USA and seen this?
    [19:02] <GordianKnot> I really wanna go to the US
    [19:02] <GordianKnot> Seattle appears to be a wonderful place
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    [19:02] <CelticGem> Seattle is ok
    [19:02] <Son_of_thor> I wanna go to USA too…
    [19:03] <CelticGem> Ive been there lots of times
    [19:03] <Son_of_thor> I wanna go to the west coast!!
    [19:03] <ILAR> I've been not but my cousins went there for a trip and they saw lot of poverty, dirty houses and lot of old people working
    [19:03] <ILAR> thats very sad
    [19:03] <john_cons> i used to live in Norway, seems everything was more expensive there than in the UK etc
    [19:03] <CelticGem> ILAR thats one city/town
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    [19:03] <ILAR> no
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    [19:03] <GordianKnot> He prolly visited the East Coast
    [19:03] <Son_of_thor> john_cons.. Yes Norway is extremly expensive!!
    [19:03] <CelticGem> try going to places like Sandiego, Seattle, Salt Lake etc
    [19:03] <CelticGem> not poor
    [19:03] <ILAR> celtic I think you live in a fantasy world
    [19:03] <GordianKnot> but worth every penny
    [19:03] <GordianKnot> 😉
    [19:04] <ChrstphrR> ILAR, did you come here just to argue?
    [19:04] <CelticGem> Celtic I lived on the US/Canada border
    [19:04] <CelticGem> I went to the USA weekly
    [19:04] <ILAR> usa has got lot of poverty and crime and violence. Any country in europe is like that
    [19:04] <GordianKnot> tell me something ILAR
    [19:04] <CelticGem> and have travelled all over both countries
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    [19:04] <ILAR> not even russia
    [19:04] <CelticGem> Ive seen it all
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    [19:06] <GordianKnot> So
    [19:06] <john_cons> Son_of_thor: a bit strange that everything is so expensive (jeg er norsk da forresten)
    [19:06] <GordianKnot> Do you know Norwegian?
    [19:06] <Son_of_thor> N? er du norsk 🙂
    [19:06] <GordianKnot> : p
    [19:07] <GordianKnot> aha
    [19:07] <CelticGem> yes the USA has poverty…but so does every country in the world
    [19:07] <john_cons> jepp
    [19:07] <Son_of_thor> hehe.
    [19:07] <GordianKnot> is it similar to Swedish ?
    [19:07] <PatricQ> keep it english please
    [19:07] <CelticGem> Son_of_Thor speak English
    [19:07] <ILAR> celtic I'm not talking about "poverty" Im talking about real poverty
    [19:07] <Son_of_thor> Jeg er fra F?r?yene john_cons
    [19:07] <ChrstphrR> Thank you PatricQ, now I don't have to say it myself 😉
    [19:07] <john_cons> bare har bodd i england en del ?r s? vant til ? skrive engelsk, (have just lived in the uk for some years)
    [19:07] * ChrstphrR sets mode: +b *!*@82.211.209.196
    [19:07] * Son_of_thor was kicked by ChrstphrR (Please respect the channel rules, and keep to english in #usa . Please Read the topic next time you join.)
    [19:07] <GordianKnot> let's speak…Old English
    [19:07] <ILAR> any european country has the same poverty usa have
    [19:07] <PatricQ> most welcome ChrstphrR 😉
    [19:07] <CelticGem> ILAr yes. But you were singling out the USA
    [19:07] <GordianKnot> :p
    [19:07] <Q^TE> john_cons English
    [19:08] <helen|away> PatricQ didnt u understand?:P
    [19:08] <john_cons> english for the surveilants
    [19:08] <john_cons> ?
    [19:08] * LilleHopp sets mode: -b *!*@86-42-79-31-dynamic.b-ras1.blp.dublin.eircom.net
    [19:08] * PatricQ hugs helen|away 🙂
    [19:08] <PatricQ> no i didnt ;p
    [19:08] <GordianKnot> English-Anglais-Ingles-Englisch-Agglika-Engleza
    [19:08] <CelticGem> No English because its a channel rule
    [19:08] <GordianKnot> 🙂
    [19:08] * helen|away hugs PatricQ too 🙂
    [19:08] <PatricQ> 🙂
    [19:08] <CelticGem> simple
    [19:08] <john_cons> okok np
    [19:08] * ChrstphrR sets mode: -b *!*@82.211.209.196
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    [19:08] <john_cons> i thought most people in the us spoke spanish these days
    [19:08] * helen|away thought everyone can understand norwegian 😛
    [19:08] <john_cons> my mistake
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    [19:08] <GordianKnot> they do
    [19:09] <CelticGem> no
    [19:09] <CelticGem> they dont
    [19:09] <Son_of_thor> Thanks.. ohh well.. English only
    [19:09] <GordianKnot> in the South
    [19:09] <GordianKnot> : p
    [19:09] <ChrstphrR> Most?  More, but most are unilingual.
    [19:09] * LilleHopp sets mode: -b *Hot*!*@*
    [19:09] <john_cons> ok, i wouldn't konw i went to the us once, and was immideatly kicked out
    [19:09] <GordianKnot> I hear most of the people use Spanish in Florida
    [19:09] * Goody– is now known as goody–
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    [19:09] <CelticGem> holy bananas people. Get your facts straight before blurting things out you have no idea about.
    [19:09] <john_cons> wb Son_of_thor
    [19:09] <ChrstphrR> GordianKnot – not a majority there, either.
    [19:09] <ChrstphrR> I heard Romanians eat children!
    [19:09] <Son_of_thor> Thanks john_cons
    [19:09] <MrMan> ChrstphrR may i know why you banned me
    [19:09] <GordianKnot> I disagree.
    [19:09] <Son_of_thor> :p
    [19:09] <john_cons> Son_of_thor: are you from the faro islands?
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    [19:10] <Son_of_thor> john_cons Yes 🙂 but i?m living in Denmark right now.. taking an edeucation
    [19:10] <john_cons> i heard they are under danish rule
    [19:10] <ChrstphrR> MrMan – you could keep the level of decorum slightly above telling blonde jokes.
    [19:10] <john_cons> ok i see
    [19:10] <GordianKnot> oficially English is the most popular language in Florida.But de facto Spanish is way ahead.
    [19:10] <GordianKnot> : p
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    [19:10] <MrMan> i was teasing
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    [19:10] <MrMan> and i said that
    [19:10] <MrMan> i was not offeding
    [19:10] <john_cons> ok, i was just wondering why there are less and less people on irc i think it seems
    [19:10] <ChrstphrR> GordianKnot – how many times have you been to Florida to confirm that?
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    [19:10] <Son_of_thor> Faroe Islands is almost as expensive as Norway.. but we don?t get payed nearly as well as norwegians
    [19:10] <john_cons> maybe they are being surveiled
    [19:10] <GordianKnot> I haven't.But other have.
    [19:10] <GordianKnot> others*
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    [19:10] <MrMan> and i was not the first one the who talked about blonds
    [19:11] <MrMan> so
    [19:11] <CelticGem> I went to Florida last year
    [19:11] <CelticGem> I didnt hear any Spanish
    [19:11] <GordianKnot> it depends where
    [19:11] <john_cons> Son_of_thor: ok i've seen pictures of Thorshavn, i think it's called, with the Hafnia hotel?
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    [19:11] <CelticGem> MrMan drop it and move on
    [19:11] <john_cons> hafnia being latin for copenhagen i guess
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    [19:12] <GordianKnot> It's a good thing I speak Spanish fluently
    [19:12] <Son_of_thor> Yes Hotel Hafnia thas right. thats in the center of Torshavn
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    [19:12] <Son_of_thor> Do you live in norway john_cons ?
    [19:12] <GordianKnot> So I'm prepared to go to Florida
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    [19:12] <ChrstphrR> I heard Romanians speak mostly Greek now.
    [19:12] <john_cons> no i live in liverpool, i used to live in oslo
    [19:12] <GordianKnot> :))
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    [19:12] <ChrstphrR> And they all wear polka-dot trousers.
    [19:12] <PatricQ> lol
    [19:12] <GordianKnot> Greek is the language of my heart
    [19:13] <ChrstphrR> I read it on the interweb, so it must be true.
    [19:13] <john_cons> Son_of_thor: i was in paris in 2005, and i met this beautiful faro girl that studied art in paris, do you know who this is?
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    [19:13] <GordianKnot> don't reply only one ONE source.
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    [19:13] <Son_of_thor> john_cons No i don?t 🙂
    [19:13] <GordianKnot> even the name "Florida" is Spanish
    [19:13] <GordianKnot> =))
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    [19:13] <john_cons> ok, np, she was with some danish students, so she probably lives in denmark or something now
    [19:14] <etienne30> nice guy here anyone
    [19:14] <Son_of_thor> Well We have beautiful girls just like Norway has…
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    [19:14] <GordianKnot> it means I gotta visit Norway as well
    [19:14] <GordianKnot> =)
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    [19:14] <john_cons> Son_of_thor: yeah, and this girl from the faro islands was also polite, and she understood norwegian
    [19:15] <^Princess^> kisses
    [19:15] <john_cons> Son_of_thor: but i didn't get her name, so i was a bit stupid
    [19:15] <john_cons> but anyway
    [19:15] <Son_of_thor> john_cons: well all faroese understand Norwegian. Norwegian is like a mix between Faroese and Danish 😛
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    [19:15] <john_cons> yeah that's right i guess
    [19:15] <Son_of_thor> We learn danish in school
    [19:15] <GordianKnot> faroese is what ?
    [19:15] <Q^TE> for who ^Princess^ ?:P
    [19:15] <^Princess^> :))
    [19:15] <^Princess^> my friends
    [19:15] <Son_of_thor> GordianKnot the lange spoken by people from Faroe Islands
    [19:16] <Q^TE> many friends ^Princess^?:P
    [19:16] <Son_of_thor> A north Germanic Language.. related to Icelandic and western norweigan
    [19:16] <john_cons> ok i see, that's right. denmark lost norway to sweden after the napoleon-wars, but denmark kept greenland and iceland and the faro islands
    [19:16] <GordianKnot> which country do those islands belong to?
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    [19:16] <Son_of_thor> Yes thats right.. john_cons
    [19:16] <john_cons> Son_of_thor: i think the faro language is easier to understand than icelandic for norwegians
    [19:16] <GordianKnot> did I wrote it correctly?
    [19:16] <Son_of_thor> GordianKnot to ourselfs 🙂 but we are stuck with Denmark in an Union!!
    [19:16] <^Princess^> a lot
    [19:17] <^Princess^> :)))
    [19:17] <john_cons> iceland became independant after the 2 world war
    [19:17] <GordianKnot> write*
    [19:17] <GordianKnot> damn it
    [19:17] <GordianKnot> I'ma chop off my fingers
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    [19:17] <^Princess^> kiss also for you Q^TE
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    [19:17] <GordianKnot> ah..Iceland
    [19:17] <Q^TE> haha thx ^Princess^ :))
    [19:17] <Q^TE> only one?:P
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    [19:17] <Son_of_thor> john_cons we are semi independant, but Denmark is holding tightly on to us.. We need to take over a few things to be fully independant 🙂
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    [19:18] <^Princess^> :))
    [19:18] <^Princess^> yes
    [19:18] <^Princess^> just only one
    [19:18] <^Princess^> :))
    [19:18] <^Princess^> for you
    [19:18] <Q^TE> thx:))
    [19:18] <GordianKnot> I hear Icelandic has changed so little that its speakers understand perfectly Old English
    [19:18] <^Princess^> ok
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    [19:18] <john_cons> Son_of_thor: ok, that's right. you still have the old parliament right. the allthing?
    [19:18] <GordianKnot> is that true?
    [19:18] <GordianKnot> :)))
    [19:18] <GordianKnot> wait
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    [19:19] <john_cons> GordianKnot: yes i think they could understand that, icelandic is like people spoke in norway a thousand years ago almost
    [19:19] <Son_of_thor> john_cons yes L?kk-tingi.. one of the oldest parliment. Icelanders have Altingi 
    [19:19] <john_cons> Son_of_thor: ok, sorry i have to read up
    [19:19] <Son_of_thor> In Norway it?s called something with Tingi.
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    [19:19] <GordianKnot> can you speak Icelandic?
    [19:19] <GordianKnot> : p
    [19:19] <Son_of_thor> Sweden it?s Riksdagen.
    [19:19] <john_cons> Son_of_thor: yes it's the storting, since 1814 or something i think
    [19:19] <Son_of_thor> Well no i can not speak Icelandic 🙂 i understand some of it. I can read it..
    [19:19] <john_cons> ok
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    [19:20] <GordianKnot> aha
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    [19:20] <john_cons> GordianKnot: nope i can't. i was at a sugarcubes concert in oslo once. where Bj?rk sang, since she was in the group, but i didn't understand what they sang
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    [19:20] <GordianKnot> Bjork
    [19:20] <john_cons> yep
    [19:20] <GordianKnot> you know..I look a bit like her
    [19:20] <Badkiss> hi people! 😀
    [19:20] <Q^TE> Badkiss 🙂
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    [19:21] <Badkiss> hi q^te! wat'z up? 😀
    [19:21] <GordianKnot> I like Bjork,especially when she gets mad
    [19:21] <Badkiss> i never got to ask if u were a boy or a girl
    [19:21] <GordianKnot> 😉
    [19:21] <Q^TE> everything u cant reach is up Badkiss:P
    [19:21] <Son_of_thor> Faroese layes between Icelandic and Western Norwegian so to speak… and ICelandic is more complex than Faroese… Faroese has lots of similarites with Icelandic in written text.. but soundwse then Faroese lays closer to Western norweigan
    [19:21] <john_cons> GordianKnot: i get a bit afraid here
    [19:21] <john_cons> only joking
    [19:21] <GordianKnot> aha
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    [19:21] <GordianKnot> she'd eat you alive if you got on her nerves
    [19:21] <GordianKnot> : p
    [19:22] <john_cons> yeah, i think she must be dangerous
    [19:22] <ChrstphrR> Son_of_thor – probably becausethe Faroes are closer, and more trade and more contact was maintained with europe?
    [19:22] <john_cons> not good
    [19:22] <john_cons> only joking
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    [19:22] <Badkiss> what are faroes? @.@
    [19:22] <GordianKnot> isles
    [19:22] <Son_of_thor> Yes ChrstphrR thats right 🙂
    [19:22] <GordianKnot> islands
    [19:22] <ChrstphrR> They're a set of islands in the North atlantic.
    [19:22] <Badkiss> ooooooooh..
    [19:22] <Son_of_thor> Badkiss Islands in the north atlanic.
    [19:22] <ChrstphrR> Google maps is your friend there, Badkiss.
    [19:22] <GordianKnot> do they have Polar bears?
    [19:23] <john_cons> Son_of_thor: yeah i read a bit on the faro wikipedia, just of curiosity, and i could understand some of it, more than on the icelandic wiki
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    [19:23] <Son_of_thor> The magnifisent empire of Faroe Islands.. with half billon of people live 😛
    [19:23] <GordianKnot> really?!
    [19:23] <ChrstphrR> heh.  Half a billion 😉
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    [19:23] <ChrstphrR> Knock off a few zeros.
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    [19:24] <Son_of_thor> No it?s only 49.000 people liveing there :p
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    [19:24] <GordianKnot> do they have Polar bears there?
    [19:24] <GordianKnot> : p
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    [19:24] <Badkiss> i wanna have a penguin
    [19:24] <Son_of_thor> Polar bears are not in Faroe Islands..are only in greenland, svalbard and (i think sometimes in Iceland and Norwthern norway)
    [19:24] <GordianKnot> A penguin bit me once
    [19:24] <Badkiss> waaaaaaaaaaa.. @.@
    [19:24] <ChrstphrR> And Canada and Alaska, and likely Russia too.
    [19:25] <john_cons> no i don't think icebears are in northern norway
    [19:25] <GordianKnot> I thought they were also present in Northern Russia
    [19:25] <GordianKnot> ah
    [19:25] <john_cons> i think
    [19:25] <GordianKnot> I love mother Russia
    [19:25] <Badkiss> are u russian?
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    [19:25] <GordianKnot> no
    [19:25] <GordianKnot> but my ancestors were…probably
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    [19:26] <Son_of_thor> brb gonna get myself a cup of coffee
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    [19:26] <GordianKnot> we're a very heterogeneous country you know.
    [19:26] <Badkiss> huhuhu i miss bikerdawg
    [19:26] <GordianKnot> : p
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    [19:26] <Badkiss> america?
    [19:26] <GordianKnot> no.
    [19:26] <GordianKnot> : p
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    [19:26] <Badkiss> what country are u talking about?
    [19:27] <GordianKnot> the land of the Romans from the East
    [19:27] <GordianKnot> : p
    [19:27] <Badkiss> greece? lol hahaha
    [19:27] <GordianKnot> no no
    [19:27] <GordianKnot> not Bzantium
    [19:27] <GordianKnot> byzantium*
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    [19:27] <GordianKnot> =)))
    [19:27] <Badkiss> im too lazy to search in google map
    [19:27] <GordianKnot> but pretty close to Greece
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    [19:28] <GordianKnot> Bulgaria separates us from Greece
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    [19:28] <Badkiss> o.O
    [19:28] <ChrstphrR> Don't you border Turkey, as well?
    [19:28] <GordianKnot> nope
    [19:28] <Badkiss> chrstphrR is a wiz in geography lol
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    [19:28] <GordianKnot> we border:
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    [19:28] <GordianKnot> Ukraine,the Moldavian Republic,Hungary,Bulgaria,Montenegru
    [19:29] * ChrstphrR checks his atlas…
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    [19:29] <GordianKnot> I love Turkey,though.
    [19:29] <Badkiss> lol chrs
    [19:29] <ChrstphrR> I'm rusty with all the name changes, there's over 200 nations to keep straight in my mind 😉
    [19:29] <GordianKnot> I gotta go to Ystanbul
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    [19:29] <Badkiss> is israel near there?
    [19:29] <ChrstphrR> Oh, so it is – Bulgaria separates you from Turkey. 😛
    [19:30] <GordianKnot> hmm
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    [19:30] <GordianKnot> I think Syria and Lebanon separate the two
    [19:30] <GordianKnot> But it's pretty close to Israel
    [19:30] <GordianKnot> 😀
    [19:30] <Twilight18> you can check it on google maps 🙂
    [19:30] <GordianKnot> yeah.I like Bulgaria too.
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    [19:31] <GordianKnot> I hear that when you go close to the Danube you can see the lights from the Bulgarian side,if it's dark
    [19:31] <GordianKnot> Must be a wonderful sight
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    [19:31] <ChrstphrR> Which city do you live in, GordianKnot?
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    [19:31] <GordianKnot> Romania
    [19:31] <ChrstphrR> That's not a city 🙂
    [19:31] <GordianKnot> oh
    [19:31] <GordianKnot> sorry
    [19:32] <GordianKnot> I mean
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    [19:32] <GordianKnot> Bucharest
    [19:32] <GordianKnot> the capital city
    [19:32] <ChrstphrR> Oh okay, in the capital.
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    [19:32] <Twilight18> do you know Macedonia? what do u think about it?
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    [19:32] <Badkiss> europe is where all of the histories are right?
    [19:32] <GordianKnot> H
    [19:32] <GordianKnot> you mean
    [19:32] <Badkiss> and asia
    [19:33] <GordianKnot> the Republic of Makedonia
    [19:33] <GordianKnot> right?
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    [19:33] <Twilight18> yes
    [19:33] <GordianKnot> I like it
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    [19:33] <Son_of_thor> Hey again.
    [19:33] <Twilight18> I'm from macedonia
    [19:33] <GordianKnot> the Republic?
    [19:33] <Twilight18> yes
    [19:33] <GordianKnot> cool
    [19:33] <Twilight18> 🙂
    [19:33] <GordianKnot> I think one of my grandfathers was Makedonian
    [19:33] <GordianKnot> I'm not sure though
    [19:34] <Twilight18> that's nice
    [19:34] <GordianKnot> some of my ancestors were either Russian,Macedonian or tartars
    [19:34] <Badkiss> so where are all of the cool places in europe?
    [19:35] <Son_of_thor> Well john_cons you left the Fjords and mountains of Norway for England? why could that be?
    [19:35] <ChrstphrR> Badkiss – you should take aCheekyMonke's advice, and find out 😉
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    [19:35] <GordianKnot> well…what do you mean by cool? For me,Athens-Rome-Moscow-Ystanbul are te coolest
    [19:35] <GordianKnot> 😀
    [19:35] <Badkiss> yeah, he helped me with the tour thingy
    [19:35] <Badkiss> like the easiest way to get in is in iceland
    [19:35] <Badkiss> then go way down
    [19:35] <ChrstphrR> That I wouldn't've known
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    [19:36] <Badkiss> he searched it in wikipedia o.O
    [19:36] <ChrstphrR> Iceland would be interesting to see, with all the geothermal works they have.
    [19:36] <Son_of_thor> ChrstphrR yes they have free energy so to speak.
    [19:36] <Badkiss> geothermal
    [19:36] <Badkiss> aaaaaaaw.. lucky
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    [19:37] <ChrstphrR> Easier to harness free energy … but the occasional erruptions are not always good news there.
    [19:37] <Son_of_thor> Iceland useses alot of energy but it?s all clean energy!! Geotermal and hydroelectric!!
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    [19:37] <HailSnail> damn it
    [19:37] <Badkiss> hi hailsnail 😀
    [19:37] <HailSnail> I crashed
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    [19:37] <ChrstphrR> It's frickin' cold in the north, they should use lots of energy 😉
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    [19:37] <HailSnail> I looooooooove the cold
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    [19:37] <Badkiss> i hate the cold
    [19:37] <Twilight18> haha visit Aljaska then 🙂
    [19:37] <HailSnail> My ancestors were Polar bears
    [19:37] <ChrstphrR> I'm sure the Faroes are cold in the winter, aren't they?
    [19:37] <Badkiss> lol!
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    [19:38] <Badkiss> buhbye patricq
    [19:38] <PatricQ> bye bye Badkiss
    [19:38] <HailSnail> what is greener than the grass?
    [19:38] <HailSnail>  : p
    [19:38] <Son_of_thor> ChrstphrR not so extremly cold as you could expect :). It?s mild because of oceaan climate.. But having said that then it?s realy not warm in the summer either..
    [19:38] <Badkiss> lol! there's a dance step called the credit card swipe
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    [19:38] <Badkiss> and milking the cow
    [19:38] <Q^TE> tc PatricQ:)
    [19:38] <Badkiss> that's weird
    [19:38] <PatricQ> u too Q^TE
    [19:38] <HailSnail> what is colder than ice?
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    [19:39] <helen4ever> PatricQ
    [19:39] <helen4ever> mh
    [19:39] <Badkiss> dry ice
    [19:39] <helen4ever> late 😛
    [19:39] <Son_of_thor> It?s no diffrence betwwen summer and winter here 🙂 a bit boring at times.. But i love the clean air that is in Faroe Islands.
    [19:39] <ChrstphrR> Oh, so you get moderated temperatures…  I bet it's windy/breezy most of the time then.
    [19:39] <HailSnail> DEATH is colder than ice
    [19:39] <Son_of_thor> ChrstphrR Yes it gets very windy!!
    [19:39] <ChrstphrR> I grew up near some of the Great Lakes, so I'm familiar with how that goes…
    [19:40] <HailSnail> my name is Tamur
    [19:40] <ChrstphrR> Lake Superior made me pretty jaded when I saw the Pacific Ocean and the Atlantic Ocean for the first time on the shore.
    [19:40] <Son_of_thor> ChrstphrR 40 m/s sometimes.. It?s also why our houses are extremly strong built..
    [19:40] <HailSnail> I come from Mongolia
    [19:40] <Badkiss> where are u from tamur?
    [19:40] <HailSnail> and I like to drink fermented milk from my mare
    [19:40] <HailSnail> : p
    [19:40] <Son_of_thor> ChrstphrR Yeah you in USA have lots of expericen with storms as well!!
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    [19:40] <Son_of_thor> expericne
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    [19:40] <ChrstphrR> HailSnail – hullo again NodulGordian …
    [19:40] <HailSnail> heddo
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    [19:40] <ChrstphrR> Well, I'm actually Canadian.
    [19:41] <MuPPeT> Oo
    [19:41] <HailSnail> from the French or from the English part?
    [19:41] <ChrstphrR> Grew up right on the border – a different part than where CelticGem grew up
    [19:41] <ChrstphrR> English part, in the time span I was living in it.
    [19:41] <Son_of_thor> Ok ChrstphrR 🙂
    [19:41] <Twilight18> i don't like greece
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    [19:41] <ChrstphrR> But my hometown has a french name from when it was originally settled.
    [19:41] <HailSnail> why not?
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    [19:41] <HailSnail> cool
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    [19:41] <Twilight18> becouse it's enemy no.1 to my country
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    [19:42] <HailSnail> no it's not.
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    [19:42] <HailSnail> your pride is your enemy
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    [19:42] <HailSnail> : p
    [19:42] <ChrstphrR> Hrm, server barfed.
    [19:42] <CelticGem> lol
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    [19:42] <Twilight18> however,we're bad with them..
    [19:42] <Badkiss> aaaaaaaaaw
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    [19:42] <Badkiss> what happened?
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    [19:42] <HailSnail> net split
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    [19:43] <ChrstphrR> Badkiss – someone tripped on a power cord and rebooted a server.
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    [19:43] <Badkiss> ooooh.. but that's a lot of people
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    [19:43] <Badkiss> no wait i dont wanna get there lol
    [19:43] <Badkiss> my brain is retarded :))
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    [19:43] <GordianKnot> ah..at last
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    [19:44] <ChrstphrR> Jeez, Europe is so tiny compared to Canada 😛
    [19:44] <Badkiss> lol!
    [19:44] <Badkiss> can someone be my teddy bear?
    [19:44] <Badkiss> 🙂
    [19:45] <ChrstphrR> I'm looking over the map in comparison… where i've travelled off in just two countries… 😛
    [19:45] <GordianKnot> well don't forget
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    [19:45] <greebo_Brat> and far less liberal, these days :
    [19:45] <GordianKnot> Russia is bigger than Canada
    [19:45] <Badkiss> lol there is goes again
    [19:45] <GordianKnot> 😉
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    [19:45] <ChrstphrR> GordianKnot – I'm sure the distances there would remind me of here.
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    [19:45] <ChrstphrR> My nearest relatives are 5-1/2 hours by car.
    [19:45] <MuPPeT> Canada .. hmmm load of hills , Holland just lots of homps we call hills
    [19:45] <ChrstphrR> My hometown's 24h by car.
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    [19:46] <ChrstphrR> … and that's no where near going entirely west to east yet.
    [19:46] * greebo_Brat notes holand is also not very liberal
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    [19:46] <MuPPeT> hehe
    [19:46] <MuPPeT> hi Greeb
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    [19:46] <greebo_Brat> evenin Mr MuPPeT
    [19:46] <MuPPeT> thnx 🙂
    [19:46] <GordianKnot> holland is very liberal
    [19:47] <Q^TE> greebo_Brat 🙂
    [19:47] <GordianKnot> you can smoke weed,go visit the red quarter
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    [19:47] <GordianKnot> or whatever you call it
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    [19:47] <GordianKnot> it's the most tolerant country in europe
    [19:47] <greebo_Brat> but you can't go and airsoft
    [19:47] <greebo_Brat> skirmish
    [19:47] <greebo_Brat> ergo, not liberal or tolerant at all
    [19:48] <GordianKnot> it's liberty and tolerance are not unlimited
    [19:48] <greebo_Brat> they also dont know how to cook chips over there, damned things arent soggy
    [19:48] <GordianKnot> its*
    [19:48] <GordianKnot> damn it
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    [19:48] <GordianKnot> i really gotta brush up on my English
    [19:48] <MuPPeT> we have lays chips 😀
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    [19:49] <greebo_Brat> er, I mean chips, not crisps?
    [19:49] <MuPPeT> lol
    [19:49] <GordianKnot> hold on
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    [19:49] <GordianKnot> when you say chips
    [19:49] <GordianKnot> do you mean,french fries?
    [19:49] <ChrstphrR> They've been clamping down on that more, because they're tired of the rest of the world's slackers coming to visit.
    [19:49] <greebo_Brat> no GordianKnot
    [19:49] <ChrstphrR> greebo_Brat, you'll have to come to Canada then.
    [19:49] <curious^man> i wonder why a pretty girl like Heidi Klum married an ugly black negro ?
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    [19:49] <ChrstphrR> I don't know if KFC needs an IT guy though, 'cause your company doesn't have any holdings here 🙂
    [19:49] <greebo_Brat> I mean chips
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    [19:49] <greebo_Brat> what you call "steak fries" …
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    [19:49] <greebo_Brat> not the small itty bitty thin pieces of fried card board
    [19:49] <ChrstphrR> I haven't seen that troll in here for weeks.
    [19:49] <GordianKnot> steak fries?
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    [19:50] <GordianKnot> ok I'm getting hungry now
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    [19:50] <greebo_Brat> GordianKnot big chunky "fries"
    [19:50] <Bikerdawg_> Hiya greebo
    [19:50] <GordianKnot> Well I guess I'll never know what "chips" means
    [19:50] <Q^TE> Bikerdawg_ 🙂
    [19:50] <ChrstphrR> English, that universal language where a Canadian can't fathom a word that a Brit says 😉
    [19:50] <Bikerdawg_> Q hiya
    [19:50] <helen4ever> Bikerdawg_ ! 🙂
    [19:50] <ChrstphrR> GordianKnot – he means the size of the cut of the potatoes.
    [19:50] <Bikerdawg_> Helen! Lol
    [19:50] <helen4ever> lol ?!
    [19:50] <GordianKnot> fathom=measure ?
    [19:51] <helen4ever> so funny to see me?:P
    [19:51] <CelticGem> innit Chris
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    [19:51] <ILAR> hi
    [19:51] <ChrstphrR> fathom – in that case, it's not the measure, but it means to understand.
    [19:51] <GordianKnot> aha
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    [19:51] <ILAR> have any one seen the movie vicky cristina and barcelona?
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    [19:51] <Bikerdawg_> No helen but ya always put a "!" after my name
    [19:51] <helen4ever> next time i wont 🙂
    [19:51] <MuPPeT> ILAR . you ?
    [19:51] <ChrstphrR> You'll learn all sorts of archaic english words no one uses in everyday speech from me, GordianKnot 😛
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    [19:51] <ILAR> es
    [19:51] <ILAR> yes
    [19:51] <CelticGem> Chris like…?
    [19:51] <GordianKnot> I did stumble across that word when I was reading Dickens
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    [19:52] <ChrstphrR> Like fathom, betwixt
    [19:52] <Dark|Angel> ILAR i have seen that movie
    [19:52] <ChrstphrR> Gah.  False positive
    [19:52] <Bikerdawg_> Lol doesnt matter helen i jst found it funny is all
    [19:52] <CelticGem> ahh I use those
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    [19:52] <CelticGem> I hate that script
    [19:52] <ILAR> and what dark did u like it
    [19:52] <GordianKnot> thanks chris
    [19:52] <Bikerdawg_> Hiya DA celtic and chris
    [19:52] <Dark|Angel> NO ILAR
    [19:52] <MuPPeT> rofl
    [19:52] <Dark|Angel> boring movie
    [19:52] <ILAR> ya me neither
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    [19:52] <ILAR> yes
    [19:52] <CelticGem> Lo BD!!
    [19:52] <ILAR> very boring
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    [19:52] <GordianKnot> bikerdawg
    [19:53] <Bikerdawg_> Hi gordian
    [19:53] <GordianKnot> what is whiter than milk?
    [19:53] <GordianKnot> 😉
    [19:53] <Bikerdawg_> How is everyone today?
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    [19:53] * CelticGem is mellow today
    [19:53] <MuPPeT> all fine,……… i need a drink
    [19:54] <GordianKnot> i'm super dawg
    [19:54] <Bikerdawg_> Good good
    [19:54] <GordianKnot> so dawg
    [19:55] <GordianKnot> how's you?
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    [19:55] <Bikerdawg_> Im good ty gordian
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    [19:56] <GordianKnot> good
    [19:56] <GordianKnot> why's everybody so silent?
    [19:56] <Bikerdawg_> Cuz i got here lol
    [19:56] <MuPPeT> oh yes, im back
    [19:56] <ChrstphrR> Yes, shh…  Bikerdawg_'s here.
    [19:56] <CelticGem> we're sleeping
    [19:56] * ChrstphrR should be hungry… and is
    [19:56] <Bikerdawg_> Lmao chris
    [19:57] <Bikerdawg_> Wb muppet
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    [19:57] <Dark|Angel> and u ignored me:P
    [19:57] * MuPPeT gives ChrstphrR some verry old cookies to eat
    [19:57] <GordianKnot> chinese food
    [19:57] <GordianKnot> deliciooous
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    [19:57] <GordianKnot> but,unfortunately,I can't eat it.
    [19:57] <CelticGem> popcorn!!
    [19:57] <GordianKnot> I'm alergic to cats and dogs
    [19:57] <GordianKnot> : p
    [19:57] <CelticGem> eww
    [19:57] <Bikerdawg_> Who did DA?
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    [19:57] <Dark|Angel> u
    [19:58] <MuPPeT> lol
    [19:58] <CelticGem> inza!!
    [19:58] <Bikerdawg_> Nope i said hi to ya before ya beat me wiff a pillow
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    [19:58] <Dark|Angel> ops
    [19:58] <Dark|Angel> my bad;p
    [19:58] <Dark|Angel> didnt see it:D
    [19:58] <Bikerdawg_> Np hun
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    [19:58] <GordianKnot> irini
    [19:59] <Dark|Angel> yes
    [19:59] * Dark|Angel hugs Bikerdawg_ tight
    [19:59] <GordianKnot> what's sharper than a thorn ?
    [19:59] * Jasmin` Hi
    [19:59] <Dark|Angel> my tongue
    [19:59] <MuPPeT> womans nails
    [19:59] <ChrstphrR> Oscar Wilde's wit?
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    [19:59] <GordianKnot> hunger!
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    [19:59] <Bikerdawg_> Wooohoooo imma lucky dawg. Hugs DA tight back
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    [19:59] <Dark|Angel> 🙂
    [19:59] <CelticGem> a netsplit?
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    [19:59] <ILAR> well im leaving
    [19:59] <ILAR> byeee
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    [19:59] <GordianKnot> buh byeee
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    [19:59] <ILAR> u alll
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    [19:59] <ILAR> chaooo
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    [19:59] <MuPPeT> laters ILAR
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    [20:00] <ILAR> laters muppet chaoo
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    [20:00] <GordianKnot> Hug me till you drug me honeeeeyyy
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    [20:00] <GordianKnot> kiss me till im inaa comaaaaaa
    [20:00] <GordianKnot> hug me honeey snuggly bunnyyyy
    [20:00] <GordianKnot> love is as good as somaaaa
    [20:00] <CelticGem> munchies time!!
    [20:00] <Bikerdawg_> Gonna share celtic?
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    [20:00] <CelticGem> Dont be silly!
    [20:00] <GordianKnot> a miligram is better than a damn
    [20:00] <CelticGem> no!
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    [20:01] <Bikerdawg_> Awwwwww celtic doeant love me anymore
    [20:01] <GordianKnot> I love that book
    [20:01] <CelticGem> do too
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    [20:01] <CelticGem> ok ok
    [20:01] <mEXIcANAX> HIS
    [20:01] <Bikerdawg_> Just loves her snacks more? Lol
    [20:01] * CelticGem offers BD a handfull of popcorn
    [20:02] <GordianKnot> so irini
    [20:02] <Bikerdawg_> Mmmmmm popcorn ty
    [20:02] <GordianKnot> tell me something
    [20:02] <CelticGem> 🙂
    [20:02] <GordianKnot> do you study archaic Greek at school?
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    [20:04] <GordianKnot> cat got your tongue?
    [20:04] <Dark|Angel> yes GordianKnot
    [20:04] <Dark|Angel> we do study archea greek
    [20:04] <GordianKnot> cool
    [20:04] <MuPPeT> sounds old
    [20:05] <GordianKnot> does it have the /sho/ sound?
    [20:05] <GordianKnot> :d
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    [20:05] * arie_13 later guys..of to bed
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    [20:05] <Q^TE> Scottish:)
    [20:05] <Scottish> Salutations, ave and greetings !
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    [20:05] <GordianKnot> hey there lad
    [20:05] <MuPPeT> thank you
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    [20:05] * Jasmin` Evelynne Kiss kiss kiss
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    [20:05] <GordianKnot> you know,one of my University teachers's Scottish
    [20:06] <Bikerdawg_> Hi Q scottish and asuka
    [20:06] <Scottish> GordianKnot: ?Pardon me"…. Do I know you. ?
    [20:06] <Scottish> Bikerdawg_: Hello mate !
    [20:08] <Scottish> So how's it goin ?
    [20:09] <AsuKa___> Hi everyone
    [20:09] <GordianKnot> Maybe you do maybe you don't.I change my nickname every time I come here.
    [20:09] <Q^TE> Bikerdawg_ 🙂
    [20:09] <GordianKnot> everytime*
    [20:09] <Bikerdawg_> Hows it goin scottish? Good here thanks
    [20:09] <Q^TE> u didnt se me even before Bikerdawg_:)
    [20:09] <GordianKnot> no
    [20:09] <GordianKnot> ait
    [20:09] <Scottish> GordianKnot: I don't wanna fill my head ^_^ it's already filled 4UP 🙂
    [20:09] <GordianKnot> every time*
    [20:09] <GordianKnot> that's better
    [20:09] <Bikerdawg_> No Qi didnt sorry bro
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    [20:10] <GordianKnot> well don't.Let's empty it for a change
    [20:10] <Q^TE> np :))
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    [20:10] <GordianKnot> braaaain
    [20:10] <Scottish> Bikerdawg_: Well, it's wonderful to know that.
    [20:10] <mEXIcANAX> HIS
    [20:10] <GordianKnot> I need braaaaain
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    [20:10] <GordianKnot> don't hiiiiiiiide
    [20:10] <GordianKnot> I wanna chew your tasty lobes
    [20:10] <Bikerdawg_> Could only be better if i didnt have 12 hour work days this weekend scottish
    [20:11] <GordianKnot> and carry them in my stomach for a few days
    [20:11] <Unknown`> Bikerdawg_: 12 hours? thats all?
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    [20:12] * GordianKnot cuts unknown's skull and shoves a mixer in his brains
    [20:12] <GordianKnot> yuum yuuuuum
    [20:12] <Bikerdawg_> Lol yeah but i shouldnt say work 12 cuz im lying i dont really do much work lol
    [20:12] <Unknown`> I'm workin since 72 hours ago i spent 3 slepless nights and this night is the 4th …… i'm not feelin good mate. 🙂
    [20:12] * Badkiss slaps Bikerdawg_ around a bit with a large trout
    [20:12] * GordianKnot puts a straw in unknown's mashed brains and sucks them
    [20:12] <Unknown`> sleepless
    [20:12] <Bikerdawg_> Sorry to hear it unknown
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    [20:12] <Unknown`> we're all workin hardly ^_^ you are not alone 🙂
    [20:12] <GordianKnot> selam asabi
    [20:13] <Bikerdawg_> Badkisssssssss hiya hun
    [20:13] <GordianKnot> how's you?
    [20:13] <GordianKnot> :d
    [20:13] * AaSaBi is online right now for a short time 🙂
    [20:13] <AaSaBi> hi gordion
    [20:13] <Badkiss> hi biker 😀
    [20:13] <AaSaBi> 🙂
    [20:13] <Bikerdawg_> Hi aasabi
    [20:13] <GordianKnot> what's up?
    [20:13] <AaSaBi> hi biker:) how r ya doing?
    [20:13] <mEXIcANAX> his
    [20:13] <MuPPeT> does me give a good feeling to see you all can get along with eachother 😀
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    [20:13] <Bikerdawg_> Im good and  you aasabi?
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    [20:13] <MuPPeT> Con_Fu_Seeeeee
    [20:14] <Badkiss> sleeeeeeepy
    [20:14] <AaSaBi> fine just tired I ve so many claases today
    [20:14] <Con_Fu_Se> hey all
    [20:14] <GordianKnot> classes?
    [20:14] <GordianKnot> what do you teach ?
    [20:14] <Bikerdawg_> I generally can get along with anyone
    [20:14] <Badkiss> con fu se u chinese?
    [20:14] <GordianKnot> kon fu zi
    [20:14] <GordianKnot> no?
    [20:14] <Con_Fu_Se> Badkiss: are you?
    [20:14] <Badkiss> its confucious?
    [20:14] * Jj` sets mode: +b *!*@c-24-13-132-64.hsd1.il.comcast.net
    [20:14] * Badkiss was kicked by Jj` (And another one bites the dust)
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    [20:15] <GordianKnot> yeah
    [20:15] <GordianKnot> 😉
    [20:15] <Con_Fu_Se> o_O
    [20:15] <AaSaBi> Chemistry
    [20:15] <GordianKnot> cool!
    [20:15] <GordianKnot> i like chemistry
    [20:15] <Bikerdawg_> Hmmm wonder why she got kicked
    [20:15] <Unknown`> 🙂
    [20:15] <AaSaBi> dont make Jj angry 🙂
    [20:16] <Con_Fu_Se> tight heristics on the f words from the bot I guess
    [20:16] * GordianKnot is listening to a lovely song and sings: lunaa mi-a zambiiiitttttttt
    [20:16] <Con_Fu_Se> *word
    [20:16] <Unknown`> ?
    [20:16] <GordianKnot> i love that song
    [20:16] <Bikerdawg_> Yup con
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    [20:16] * Dark|Angel slaaaaapppppps Con_Fu_Se around with a pillow
    [20:17] <Con_Fu_Se> it must be abuse the asian looking guy day :p
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    [20:17] <GordianKnot> so you're Asian?
    [20:17] <Badkiss> that was mean
    [20:17] <Con_Fu_Se> life is mean
    [20:18] <GordianKnot> I'm Tamur
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    [20:18] <Bikerdawg_> Wb badkiss
    [20:18] <Con_Fu_Se> GordianKnot: what glitters isn't always gold
    [20:18] * LilleHopp sets mode: -b *!*@187-4-216-100.fnsce704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br
    [20:18] <GordianKnot> and I come from Ulan Bator
    [20:18] <Bikerdawg_> Lol it was the bot not anyone badkiss
    [20:18] <Badkiss> im originally from the philippines.
    [20:18] * AaSaBi got to go now
    [20:18] <AaSaBi> by
    [20:18] <Badkiss> bye aasabi
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    [20:18] <GordianKnot> bye
    [20:18] <Q^TE> tc AaSaBi
    [20:18] <Bikerdawg_> Tc ttyl
    [20:18] <GordianKnot> "not all that glitters is gold"
    [20:18] <Badkiss> but i live in chicago now
    [20:18] <GordianKnot> you meanter say
    [20:18] <GordianKnot> : p
    [20:19] <GordianKnot> oh wait
    [20:19] <Bikerdawg_> Wow hes almost as fast as Q lol
    [20:19] <GordianKnot> not everything that glitters is gold *
    [20:19] <GordianKnot> that's better
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    [20:19] <Dark|Angel> lol
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    [20:19] <Con_Fu_Se> GordianKnot: well … it still makes the same sense
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    [20:20] <GordianKnot> if gold doesn't glitter at all,I guess it des
    [20:20] <GordianKnot> : p
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    [20:20] <Badkiss> wb biker
    [20:21] <GordianKnot> so confuzi
    [20:21] <GordianKnot> qhere do you abide?
    [20:21] <GordianKnot> 😀
    [20:21] <GordianKnot> where?*
    [20:21] * Badkiss smackz biker on the cheek
    [20:21] <Bikerdawg_> Gonna be one of those days already lol. Ty badkiss
    [20:21] <Con_Fu_Se> to a realm of my own
    [20:21] <GordianKnot> the Netherlands?
    [20:21] <Bikerdawg_> Awwwww ouch
    [20:21] <Badkiss> hahaha :p
    [20:21] <Bikerdawg_> Do it again lol
    [20:22] <mEXIcANAX> HIS
    [20:22] <Badkiss> the other cheek?
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    [20:22] <Bikerdawg_> Yup
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    [20:22] <Q^TE> mEXIcANAX stop hising
    [20:22] <Con_Fu_Se> seems we got ourself a willing christian
    [20:22] <Con_Fu_Se> ^^
    [20:22] * Badkiss smackz biker on the other cheek
    [20:22] <GordianKnot> so confuzi
    [20:22] <GordianKnot> do you like vodka?
    [20:22] <GordianKnot> : p
    [20:22] <Bikerdawg_> Lol con
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    [20:22] <Con_Fu_Se> as well as all clean spirits
    [20:22] <Con_Fu_Se> *clear
    [20:23] * X sets mode: +l 111
    [20:23] <Badkiss> brb.. i gotta let the steaks out
    [20:23] <GordianKnot> so confuzi.do you like Pam Anderson?
    [20:23] <Bikerdawg_> Tyt badkiss
    [20:23] <Bikerdawg_> Who doesnt gordian?
    [20:23] <Q^TE> tyt Badkiss
    [20:23] <Con_Fu_Se> GordianKnot: do you like barbie dolls? o_O
    [20:23] <MuPPeT> i dont
    [20:23] <GordianKnot> I do
    [20:24] <Bikerdawg_> I do lol
    [20:24] <GordianKnot> I always give them to my dog
    [20:24] <MuPPeT> hehehe
    [20:24] <GordianKnot> : p
    [20:24] <mEXIcANAX> HIS
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    [20:24] <Bikerdawg_> His?
    [20:24] * mEXIcANAX was kicked by Q^TE (HIS)
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    [20:24] <MuPPeT> lol
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    [20:25] <Bikerdawg_> Is that the plural of hi?
    [20:25] <Dark|Angel> lol
    [20:25] <Badkiss> i know the answer :p
    [20:25] * Unknown` Cigar is cigar
    [20:25] <Bikerdawg_> Lol
    [20:25] <Badkiss> it's hey.. joking! 😀
    [20:25] <GordianKnot> a cigarette is a cigarette
    [20:25] <GordianKnot> unknown,have you read Nice Work ?
    [20:25] <Bikerdawg_> Lol badkiss
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    [20:26] * Bikerdawg_ beats badkiss wiff a wet noodle
    [20:26] <Badkiss> im so corny lol!
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    [20:26] <Badkiss> a wet noodle? where's the soup? 😀
    [20:26] <MuPPeT> can we say the woods r woods, or cant you say that bcoz u cant see the woods bcoz the trees r in the way
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    [20:27] <Bikerdawg_> Lol i drank it
    [20:27] <Badkiss> hi skirt!!!! 😀
    [20:27] <GordianKnot> a rose is a rose is a rose is a rose
    [20:27] <Badkiss> meanie! u didn't leave anything for me T_T
    [20:27] <skirt> Hey Badkiss! : ]
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    [20:27] <Bikerdawg_> Lmao
    [20:27] <GordianKnot> I'm kinda alergic to roses
    [20:27] <GordianKnot> : p
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    [20:28] <Bikerdawg_> Im allergic to buying roses
    [20:28] <GordianKnot> roses are red
    [20:28] <GordianKnot> violets are blue
    [20:28] <GordianKnot> and if i looked like you
    [20:28] <GordianKnot> i'd join the zoo
    [20:29] <Badkiss> would you believe im allergic to aspirin?
    [20:29] <GordianKnot> allergic*
    [20:29] <GordianKnot> GOD DAMN IT!!!
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    [20:29] <Unknown`> Bikerdawg_: May I ask ya just 1 quest please. ?
    [20:29] <Bikerdawg_> Really?
    [20:29] <GordianKnot> I'm allergic to water
    [20:29] <GordianKnot> I never wash myself
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    [20:29] * Dark|Angel is allergic to parfume and penciline
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    [20:30] <GordianKnot> I'm also allergic to soap
    [20:30] <GordianKnot> it's deadly for me
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    [20:30] <Badkiss> uh huh.. my body is so weird
    [20:30] <Bikerdawg_> Sure unknown
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    [20:31] <GordianKnot> mine is weird too
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    [20:31] <Unknown`> Bikerdawg_: How can you tell if a girl likes you. ?
    [20:31] * Euforic hi allz
    [20:31] * Dark|Angel likes Bikerdawg_
    [20:31] <Q^TE> hi Euforic
    [20:31] <Badkiss> gordian why would u join the zoo?
    [20:31] <MuPPeT> amen
    [20:31] <Bikerdawg_> Hmm she usually doesnt slap me
    [20:31] <CelticGem> if she likes your shoes then she likes you
    [20:31] <Badkiss> lol! thou shall not put the name of God in vain
    [20:31] <Dark|Angel> lol Bikerdawg_
    [20:31] <Bikerdawg_> Awwwww ty DA
    [20:31] <Dark|Angel> maybe she slaps only them she likes;p
    [20:31] <Deathdealer> earth
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    [20:32] <Con_Fu_Se> yeah you can't have to vain conditions… one cancels the other
    [20:32] <Badkiss> oh really?
    [20:32] <Bikerdawg_> Lmao then DA must love me
    [20:32] <Con_Fu_Se> *two
    [20:32] <Dark|Angel> haha
    [20:32] <Badkiss> if you drink water, you'd blow up
    [20:32] * Dark|Angel hugs Scottish tight
    [20:32] <Scottish> till now? 🙁
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    [20:32] <Dark|Angel> i didnt realize was u:s
    [20:32] <Scottish> we'll change the destination
    [20:32] <Scottish> 🙂
    [20:32] <Dark|Angel> why u keep changing nicks:
    [20:32] <GordianKnot> :
    [20:32] <GordianKnot> roses are red
    [20:32] <GordianKnot> violets are blue
    [20:32] <GordianKnot> I'm schizophrenic
    [20:32] <GordianKnot> and so am I
    [20:33] <Badkiss> scottish is from scotland?
    [20:33] * Scottish thinks that he bein unwelcome 🙂
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    [20:33] <Scottish> Badkiss: No !
    [20:33] * Dark|Angel pats sammy's head
    [20:33] <Bikerdawg_> Unwelcome? Never
    [20:33] <Badkiss> scottish is being scottish? 🙂
    [20:34] <GordianKnot> helo
    [20:34] <GordianKnot> main neim iz macgregr
    [20:34] <GordianKnot> dunkn mcgregr
    [20:35] <Scottish> Badkiss: Be clean and clear 🙂
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    [20:35] <Scottish> (:
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    [20:35] <Badkiss> clean and clear.. that's the anti pimple regimen right?
    [20:35] <GordianKnot> Scottish
    [20:35] <Scottish> Dark|Angel:??
    [20:35] <GordianKnot> are you wearing a kilt right now?
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    [20:35] <Scottish> goldy
    [20:35] <Dark|Angel> yes hon
    [20:35] <Scottish> please !
    [20:36] * Q^TE sets mode: +b *!*@97-94-188-39.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com
    [20:36] * Badkiss shakes bikerdawg_ wake up!!
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    [20:36] <Dark|Angel> please me what?
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    [20:36] <Bikerdawg_> Lol imma wake
    [20:36] * X sets mode: +l 108
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    [20:36] <Badkiss> are u at work?
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    [20:36] <Deathdealer> berserkir
    [20:36] <GordianKnot> Roses are red.
    [20:36] <GordianKnot> violets are blue
    [20:36] <Scottish> r these people even human?
    [20:36] <Bikerdawg_> Yes badkiss always
    [20:37] <GordianKnot> some poems rhyme
    [20:37] <GordianKnot> but this one doesn'rt
    [20:37] <Dark|Angel> lol sammy
    [20:37] <Dark|Angel> shhh
    [20:37] <Scottish> or bots ?
    [20:37] <Badkiss> who was that guy who wears spongebob boxers?
    [20:37] <Badkiss> i forgot.. @.@
    [20:37] <Scottish> i'm lost
    [20:38] <GordianKnot> 3 people are jumping from a plane
    [20:38] <Deathdealer> rognvaldr
    [20:38] <Deathdealer> berserkir
    [20:38] <GordianKnot> the first,when jumping,shouts: juranimooooo
    [20:38] <GordianKnot> the second does the same
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    [20:38] <GordianKnot> the third,an American Indian,says:
    [20:38] <GordianKnot> Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
    [20:38] <Badkiss> hi chrs!
    [20:41] <Dark|Angel> english!!
    [20:41] <Deathdealer> yellow badge
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    Session Start: Sat May 09 20:42:47 2009
    Session Ident: #usa
    [20:42] * Now talking in #usa
    [20:42] * Topic is ' Welcome to #USA :: CLEAN English only :: http://www.undernet-usa.com ::'
    [20:42] * Set by KinG`PiN on Thu May 07 11:59:03
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    [20:43] <GordianKnot> ol mcdonald had a farm
    [20:43] <GordianKnot> iaa iaaa oooo
    [20:43] <GordianKnot> and on this farm he had an igloo
    [20:43] <GordianKnot> iaa…i..aaay….oh
    [20:43] <Badkiss> man skirt!!
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    [20:44] <Badkiss> i wanna see a guy wear a skirt. 🙂
    [20:44] <GordianKnot> the skirt was worn by men as much as it was worn by women
    [20:44] <GordianKnot> nowdays,nah
    [20:44] <Deathdealer> berserkir
    [20:45] <GordianKnot> but in days of yore
    [20:45] <GordianKnot> men would wear skirts,ain't that right Irini?
    [20:45] <jgjsjwjfsd> KINOE
    [20:45] <jgjsjwjfsd> 🙂
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    [20:45] <GordianKnot> The Greeks worse skirts
    [20:45] <GordianKnot> 😀
    [20:45] <GordianKnot> wore*
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    [20:45] <Deathdealer> to dree yir ain weird
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    [20:45] <jgjsjwjfsd> GordianKnot: Stop repeating yourself please mate:
    [20:45] <Badkiss> lol gordian
    [20:46] <Deathdealer> to follow your own star
    [20:47] <GordianKnot> i'm not repeating myself mate
    [20:48] * AmCuCeMa Hallo
    [20:48] <MaDaXe> ping
    [20:48] <Deathdealer> to endure that which is destined for you
    [20:48] <Kelt> Hello
    [20:48] <Badkiss> hi amcucema
    [20:48] * ChrstphrR_ is now known as ChrstphrR
    [20:48] <jgjsjwjfsd> AmCuCeMa:! hello 🙂
    [20:48] <Kelt> comrades
    [20:49] <CelticGem> Geronimo
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    [20:49] <Badkiss> no pms please 😀
    [20:49] <CelticGem> who in reality never jumped from a plane
    [20:49] <CelticGem> lol
    [20:49] <asdkadska> yo
    [20:49] <asdkadska> 😀
    [20:49] * LilleHopp sets mode: -b *!*@213-183-22.netrun.cytanet.com.cy
    [20:49] <CelticGem> old joke but still funny
    [20:49] <AmCuCeMa> a tuttY
    [20:49] <Deathdealer> freeedoom
    [20:49] <Deathdealer> !
    [20:49] <Deathdealer> it was your mother who loved you before you were born
    [20:49] <Deathdealer> rognvaldr
    [20:49] <Badkiss> deathdealer, here's something for you
    [20:49] <Badkiss> it's God who loves you even before you were born 😀
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    [20:49] <Deathdealer> yes and i live in a submarine
    [20:49] <Badkiss> o.O
    [20:49] <Deathdealer> thanks
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    [20:49] * Selektor elloo oll
    [20:49] * Selektor brb
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    [20:49] <Deathdealer> happy day for the cult of the mother goddess
    [20:49] * X sets mode: +l 108
    [20:49] <asdkadska> hey christpoher
    [20:49] <asdkadska> 😀
    [20:49] <Deathdealer> sophia be the name
    [20:49] <Deathdealer> mother be loved
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    [20:49] <Badkiss> lol gordian! ur going into nursery rhymes?
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    [20:49] <GUPT316> asalam walikum all
    [20:49] * X sets mode: +l 111
    [20:49] <ExMan> Hey room
    [20:49] <GUPT316>  hi freinds
    [20:49] <Deathdealer> get off my bridge
    [20:49] <Deathdealer> !
    [20:49] <GUPT316>  how ru al
    [20:49] <Badkiss> hi gupt 😀
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    [20:49] <GUPT316> <Badkiss> hi
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    [20:49] <jgjsjwjfsd> some nursery rhymes are kinda morbid ^_^
    [20:49] <Badkiss> like?
    [20:49] <Deathdealer> and i grew up on a farm
    [20:49] <ExMan> This is my 1st time here show me  some love
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    [20:49] <Badkiss> no pms gupt 😀
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    [20:49] <asdkadska> christpoher
    [20:49] <asdkadska> 🙂
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    [20:49] <skirt> Well… That's just confusing for me.
    [20:49] <Deathdealer> berserkir
    [20:49] <GUPT316> <Badkiss>  ok where ru from cebu?
    [20:49] <Badkiss> yup. how did u know?
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    [20:49] <GUPT316>  ok forget it
    [20:49] <Badkiss> its so boooooooooooooring
    [20:49] <Deathdealer> rodham
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    [20:49] <GUPT316> so do u know taht from where do i belongs?
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    [20:49] <Badkiss> huh? ur from cebu?
    [20:49] <GUPT316> na
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    [20:49] <GUPT316>  i m from khi
    [20:49] <Badkiss> khi?
    [20:49] <GUPT316> khi = karachi
    [20:49] <Badkiss> aaah.. i duno that 😀
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    [20:49] <CelticGem> wb Chris
    [20:49] <Badkiss> chrs keeps on going on and off
    [20:49] <GUPT316> hahaha its a 6th biggest city in the world
    [20:49] <GUPT316> <Badkiss> & u dont know that
    [20:49] <Badkiss> im not good with geography
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    [20:49] <GUPT316> ok forget it
    [20:49] <Deathdealer> c f b   cold lake      maple flag & virtual flag
    [20:49] <GUPT316> so wat do u do baby
    [20:49] <Deathdealer> top gun eagle
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    [20:49] <Badkiss> don't even call me baby
    [20:49] <Bikerdawg_> Lol i barely know where pennsylvaia is and i live there
    [20:49] <GUPT316> ok i m not gona call u baby i m gona call u swetie is that fine?
    [20:49] <Badkiss> no its not fine.
    [20:49] <Bikerdawg_> Hmm
    [20:49] <Deathdealer> sugar
    [20:49] <Badkiss> just call me badkiss 😀 im happy with that
    [20:49] <GUPT316> wow
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    [20:50] <GUPT316>  but i didnt kissed  ya how wolud i know that ur lips taste is bad
    [20:50] <GUPT316>  i cant   call ya  baad kiss untill i m not gona kiss u  darlling
    [20:50] * Badkiss yawn
    [20:50] <Dark|Angel> relax a bit GUPT316
    [20:50] <Dark|Angel> unless u like to kiss men
    [20:51] <GUPT316> yukh
    [20:51] <Bikerdawg_> Lol DA
    [20:51] <GUPT316>  is <Badkiss>  man?
    [20:51] <GUPT316> men?
    [20:51] <Dark|Angel> yes
    [20:51] <Dark|Angel> he is
    [20:51] <Badkiss> im not a guy
    [20:51] <GUPT316> ooo damn!!
    [20:51] <Badkiss> lol! im a girl
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    [20:51] <GUPT316> wow
    [20:51] <Dark|Angel> really
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    [20:51] <GUPT316> so ill kiss ya
    [20:51] <Dark|Angel> ahahhha
    [20:51] <Bikerdawg_> Badkiss is a 70 year old man lol
    [20:51] <Badkiss> but i dont like guys calling me baby or sweetie or what ever
    [20:51] <Deathdealer> honeypie
    [20:51] * X sets mode: +l 114
    [20:51] <Q^TE> Deathdealer what u talking abt?
    [20:52] <Deathdealer> ooohh     momma
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    [20:52] <Deathdealer> !
    [20:52] <GUPT316> <Badkiss>  i m gona  call swet kiss
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    [20:52] * Badkiss ignoring
    [20:52] <GUPT316> <Badkiss>  iwana kiss u like mmmmmm frecnh one how is that?
    [20:52] * Dark|Angel sets mode: +b *!*@static-host119-30-121-19.link.net.pk
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    [20:52] <Q^TE> wb Selektor
    [20:52] <Deathdealer> call me baby
    [20:52] <Dark|Angel> how about calm down a bit GUPT316
    [20:52] <Selektor> thx Q^TE
    [20:52] <GordianKnot> damn it!!!
    [20:52] <Bikerdawg_> Lol who unlocked the door for the idiots?
    [20:53] * Selektor CANADAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!1 they banned me again
    [20:53] <GordianKnot> I can't find my mobile phone
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    [20:54] <jgjsjwjfsd> Good night
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    [20:54] <Bikerdawg_> Cheekyyyyyyyyyyy
    [20:54] <aCheekyMonke> hi biker
    [20:54] <aCheekyMonke> hows it going?
    [20:54] <Badkiss> mr. cheeky!!
    [20:54] <Deathdealer> it was adam weishaupt who found the order of the illumined in germany    the illuminati
    [20:54] <Badkiss> i miiiiiiiiiiiissed you 😀
    [20:54] <Bikerdawg_> Good and with you?
    [20:54] <aCheekyMonke> hi deathdealer
    [20:55] <Deathdealer> hie
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    [20:55] <aCheekyMonke> wanting to talk about the illuminati again? are you sure?
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    [20:55] <Badkiss> yey he left!
    [20:55] <aCheekyMonke> i'm ok biker thanks
    [20:55] <Bikerdawg_> Lol bdakisses fan has left the building
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    [20:55] <john_cons> what is the illuminati agenda, i wonder about
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    [20:55] <Bikerdawg_> Good good cheeky. Ltns lol
    [20:55] <Badkiss> i just hate perverts..
    [20:55] <Deathdealer> the millenium has come
    [20:56] <Badkiss> they think they can get away with everything lol
    [20:56] <GordianKnot> don't hate me because I am beautiful
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    [20:56] <aCheekyMonke> do you really want to know what the agenda is john? lol
    [20:56] <Bikerdawg_> Imma perv and ya like me badkiss lol
    [20:56] <aCheekyMonke> do you REALLY want to know?
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    [20:56] <Deathdealer> i built the ferrari p 4 . 5 so christ can drive it
    [20:56] <asdkadska> romyo 🙂
    [20:56] <Badkiss> shudup biker:p
    [20:56] <john_cons> i think the illuminati agenda is dark hair is better than light hair
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    [20:56] <Q^TE> Deathdealer u have your own topics?
    [20:56] <john_cons> a lituhainan woman in liverpool told me
    [20:56] <Bikerdawg_> Lol
    [20:56] <GordianKnot> Well Ima go away now
    [20:56] <GordianKnot> Gotta sleep
    [20:56] <aCheekyMonke> lol
    [20:56] <Deathdealer> illuminati color is red    red hair is gothic
    [20:56] <aCheekyMonke> ok sleep well
    [20:56] <Badkiss> aaw.. so soon gordian?
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    [20:57] <Badkiss> it's sunday tomorrow
    [20:57] * Dark|Angel brb
    [20:57] <GordianKnot> it's late here
    [20:57] <Q^TE> tyt
    [20:57] <Bikerdawg_> Tc gordian
    [20:57] <Badkiss> okay.. dudnyt 😀
    [20:57] <Bikerdawg_> Tyt DA
    [20:57] <GordianKnot> good night all.
    [20:57] <GordianKnot> 😉
    [20:57] <Badkiss> mr. cheeky! i have news 😀
    [20:57] <aCheekyMonke> night
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    [20:57] <aCheekyMonke> yes badkiss?
    [20:57] <aCheekyMonke> ;p;
    [20:57] <GordianKnot> kalinihta irini 😉
    [20:57] <aCheekyMonke> lol
    [20:57] <Badkiss> bikerdawg_ is my teddy bear :p
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    [20:58] <aCheekyMonke> lol badkiss
    [20:58] <aCheekyMonke> lol
    [20:58] <Deathdealer> hail sophia
    [20:58] <Badkiss> who's sophia?
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    [20:58] <Deathdealer> mother goddess
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    [20:59] * X sets mode: +l 117
    [20:59] <Badkiss> i dunno her >.<
    [20:59] <Deathdealer> heavenly mother
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    [21:00] <aCheekyMonke> i have nothing to say lol
    [21:00] <aCheekyMonke> hi wind
    [21:00] <aCheekyMonke> lol
    [21:00] <Wind“> hey
    [21:00] <Badkiss> me too.. o.O
    [21:00] <Wind“> say, aCheekyMonke, is prolog ever used in anything?
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    [21:01] <Badkiss> ima go play warcraft.. brb 🙂
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    [21:01] <aCheekyMonke> lol wind
    [21:01] <aCheekyMonke> sometimes
    [21:01] <aCheekyMonke> but not much lol
    [21:02] <aCheekyMonke> why?
    [21:02] * X sets mode: +l 117
    [21:02] <Q^TE> tyt Badkiss
    [21:02] <Badkiss> thanks q^te
    [21:02] <Badkiss> hey! u never answered my question
    [21:02] <Q^TE> who me??
    [21:02] <Badkiss> yes u
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    [21:02] <aCheekyMonke> lol
    [21:02] * Badkiss stares at Q^TE
    [21:02] <Q^TE> what was it maybe i was away sry
    [21:02] <Badkiss> i was curious if you were a boy or a girl
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    [21:02] <Q^TE> hahaha
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    [21:03] <Q^TE> find out:P
    [21:03] <Badkiss> aaaaaw
    [21:03] * Dark|Angel hugs UnScArrEd tight
    [21:03] <Deathdealer> remember with dan brown  daughter   was   sarah       mother is in fact sophia
    [21:03] <aCheekyMonke> you cant tell??
    [21:03] <Badkiss> meanie 🙁
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    [21:03] <Q^TE> im a Guy Badkiss 🙂
    [21:03] <Badkiss> i dunno.. cuz usually a boy doesn't talk much
    [21:03] <Badkiss> oooh. my hunch was right 😀
    [21:03] <aCheekyMonke> dan brown knows nothing deathdealer lol
    [21:03] <Bikerdawg_> Lmaooooo
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    [21:03] <Badkiss> aaaaaaaaw..
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    [21:03] <Q^TE> i dont talk much?:P
    [21:03] * UnScArrEd hugs Dark|Angel
    [21:03] <Badkiss> my teddy left 🙁
    [21:04] <Badkiss> so i have noticed.
    [21:04] <Dark|Angel> welcome back UnScArrEd:)
    [21:04] <Deathdealer> rex brown does
    [21:04] <Badkiss> you play warcraft?
    [21:04] <aCheekyMonke> he probably just got texted lol
    [21:04] <UnScArrEd> ty
    [21:04] <Q^TE> no i play only on mian USA 😉
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    [21:04] <Badkiss> what's mian?
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    [21:04] <Q^TE> main*
    [21:04] <Dark|Angel> he is back
    [21:04] <Dark|Angel> ahah
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    [21:04] <Q^TE> wb Bikerdawg_
    [21:04] <aCheekyMonke> welcome back biker
    [21:04] <aCheekyMonke> lol
    [21:04] <Badkiss> is that garena?
    [21:04] <Badkiss> hi biker 😀
    [21:04] <Bikerdawg_> Ty Q and cheeky
    [21:04] <Q^TE> main not mian:P
    [21:04] * X sets mode: +l 120
    [21:05] <Deathdealer> woohoo      i love this channel
    [21:05] <Bikerdawg_> Hiya badkiss lol
    [21:05] <Badkiss> my garena doesn't work out fine
    [21:05] <Badkiss> it sucks T_T
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    [21:05] <Q^TE> why Badkiss?
    [21:05] <asdkadska> Q^te 🙂
    [21:05] <Dark|Angel> what is garena?
    [21:05] <Bikerdawg_> Miss me DA? Lol
    [21:05] * Badkiss gives out choco chip cookie dough ice cream to everyone
    [21:05] <Q^TE> asdkadska 🙂
    [21:05] <Badkiss> garena is like a client for games
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    [21:05] <Badkiss> through the internet where anyone from anywhere can play with each other
    [21:06] <Dark|Angel> ahh
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    [21:06] <Q^TE> UnScArrEd where is my hug?:))
    [21:06] <Badkiss> q^te i dunno. i got an error from installing
    [21:06] <Dark|Angel> like stream
    [21:06] * UnScArrEd hugs Q^TE
    [21:06] <UnScArrEd> haha
    [21:06] <john_cons> i've seen on the news etc., that religious people in the us hate swedish since they don't belive in God, is that right anyone?
    [21:06] <Dark|Angel> i used to play with Tomas` thought stream
    [21:06] <Bikerdawg_> Hiya unscarred
    [21:06] <Badkiss> but it still ran
    [21:06] * Q^TE kissssesssssssss UnScArrEd 😉
    [21:06] <UnScArrEd> hey Bikerdawg_
    [21:06] <Deathdealer> gaumont says we should be non sectarian
    [21:06] <Q^TE> i dont play any games Badkiss 🙂
    [21:06] <Dark|Angel> i used to play css
    [21:06] <UnScArrEd> wahaha
    [21:06] <Bikerdawg_> Not true john
    [21:06] <Badkiss> counter strike?
    [21:07] <Dark|Angel> lucky UnScArrEd
    [21:07] <Dark|Angel> Badkiss counter strike source
    [21:07] <Deathdealer> chaumont says the earth does not have any lines
    [21:07] <UnScArrEd> yeh
    [21:07] <Dark|Angel> 🙂
    [21:07] <Badkiss> i dunno how to play that hahaha
    [21:07] <Dark|Angel> pretty game
    [21:07] <Dark|Angel> funny
    [21:07] <john_cons> Bikerdawg_: not true? ok, because i've seen hate-preachers taking flights to sweden on the news, critisising swedes, in sweden
    [21:07] <Deathdealer> beaumont says i love you
    [21:07] <john_cons> from the us
    [21:07] <Dark|Angel> used to shoot Tomas` butt all the time..ahah
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    [21:08] <Silent-Rock> hi all
    [21:08] <Badkiss> hi silent 😀
    [21:08] <Bikerdawg_> Lol john a handful of religious nuts. You cant judge all by them
    [21:08] <Q^TE> hi Silent-Rock
    [21:08] <Deathdealer> bettencourt wants to marry you and have a dozen kids
    [21:08] * skirt waves at Silent-Rock
    [21:08] <Silent-Rock> hey  , wassup ?
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    [21:08] <Deathdealer> star trek
    [21:08] <Silent-Rock> hey Skirt 😛
    [21:08] <Bikerdawg_> Hiya silent
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    [21:08] <Badkiss> aaaw.. biker, you have something against religious people?
    [21:08] <Q^TE> how is it going after the kissess UnScArrEd ?:)hopefully better:P
    [21:08] <Deathdealer> the perfect team
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    [21:09] <UnScArrEd> haha sure Q^TE
    [21:09] <john_cons> Bikerdawg_: ok, i've been persecuted in norway you see, i wonder if it is because i'm ateist and that people are being persecuted these days if they don't belive in god
    [21:09] <Bikerdawg_> Only the nutty ones badkiss
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    [21:09] <john_cons> maybe the nuts are only the top of iceberg
    [21:09] <Q^TE> john_cons better u change subject
    [21:09] <john_cons> Q^TE: why is that, if i may ask
    [21:09] <Badkiss> religion is boring
    [21:09] <Dark|Angel> true!!
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    [21:09] <Badkiss> soooooooooooo boring :)) why make up rituals lol
    [21:09] <Con_Fu_Se> I'm amusing myself with their own paradox
    [21:09] <john_cons> ok, is this a dictatorship irc-channel?
    [21:09] <Bikerdawg_> Lol johns my g/f is in norway and atheist and has no problems here
    [21:09] <Dark|Angel> yes!
    [21:09] <Badkiss> nope
    [21:10] <Q^TE> it is going in relegiuos conversation and not allowed here
    [21:10] <Badkiss> aaaw. @.@
    [21:10] <Deathdealer> the tetragrammaton is for each and every one
    [21:10] <john_cons> isn't allowed to discuss religion?
    [21:10] <Badkiss> actually, religion isn't gonna help you go into heaven
    [21:10] <Q^TE> good then UnScArrEd wen u feel not good tell me:))
    [21:10] <Silent-Rock> not boring , but most r not willing to face the truth 🙂 thats the problem with relegions
    [21:10] <john_cons> what happened to fredom of speach?
    [21:10] <Deathdealer> fruit
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    [21:10] <Badkiss> hey guys can i share something with you? 😀
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    [21:10] <UnScArrEd> i will Q^TE 😛
    [21:10] <Con_Fu_Se> Badkiss: according to the same notion religion will lead you to hell:p
    [21:11] <Bikerdawg_> John rules are rules in here it keeps arguments away
    [21:11] <Con_Fu_Se> cause no matter what got you'd believe in to will be a blasphemy
    [21:11] <Deathdealer> by their fruits ye shall know them
    [21:11] <Badkiss> i just wanna share something that's God related 🙂
    [21:11] <john_cons> that's surely a joke, that it isn't allowed to discuss religion here?
    [21:11] <Con_Fu_Se> cause you'd be deifying somthing utterly man made
    [21:11] <Dark|Angel> #USA Rules are displayed here : http://www.undernet-usa.com/forum/index.php?act=boardrules
    [21:11] <Con_Fu_Se> *God
    [21:11] <Badkiss> aaaaaaaaaw.. wait wait wait
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    [21:11] <Badkiss> could anyone please listen? 🙁
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    [21:11] <john_cons> i thougt this was usa not communist russia
    [21:11] <Wind“> sharing may lead to STDs
    [21:11] <Dark|Angel> john_cons!!
    [21:11] <Bikerdawg_> Hi wind
    [21:11] <john_cons> bloddy hell
    [21:11] <Con_Fu_Se> some mess those religious nuts has got you into:p
    [21:11] * Silent-Rock wonders, how many of us believe, howmany follow n how many use relegions for our own whims 😉
    [21:11] <Dark|Angel> follow the rules
    [21:12] <john_cons> usa now is like communist russia
    [21:12] <john_cons> im in shock
    [21:12] <Dark|Angel> door is open!!
    [21:12] <Wind“> john_cons, we're not allowed to discuss communist russia either
    [21:12] <john_cons> bloddy 911
    [21:12] <Badkiss> aaaw.. i just wanted to share something @.@
    [21:12] <Badkiss> i mean, i don't mean to insult anyone
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    [21:12] <Badkiss> but i really love God, but im not religious
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    [21:12] <john_cons> not allowed to discuss specific topics
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    [21:12] * X sets mode: +l 116
    [21:12] <john_cons> i have to read the rules brb
    [21:12] <Badkiss> there's a huge difference in religion and being in a relationship with him
    [21:13] <UnScArrEd> lol
    [21:13] <aCheekyMonke> lol
    [21:13] * Bikerdawg_ sits back and watches john bout to get kicked lol
    [21:13] <Wind“> you're not allowed to say certain arbitrary words either.
    [21:13] <Deathdealer> what reward have ye if ye love only those who love
    [21:13] <Wind“> something tells me Badkiss is about to preach
    [21:13] <Dark|Angel> gosh stop the god talk:s
    [21:13] <Q^TE> Deathdealer which topic u are after?
    [21:13] <Con_Fu_Se> Deathdealer: it's the only reward
    [21:13] <Badkiss> okay im sorry
    [21:13] <Con_Fu_Se> to leve ad be loved back
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    [21:13] <Deathdealer> the priory of sion
    [21:13] <Con_Fu_Se> the other option is vanity :p
    [21:13] <Wind“> Badkiss, go sell your wares somewhere else
    [21:13] <Badkiss> i'm not gonna pour down what i feel here
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    [21:13] <Silent-Rock> :))
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    [21:13] <aCheekyMonke> Deathdealer: Operor non inrideo nos quoniam nos es "illuminati"
    [21:13] <Con_Fu_Se> …
    [21:13] <Deathdealer> the order of saint john
    [21:14] <aCheekyMonke> lol
    [21:14] <Con_Fu_Se> and my spelling is going down the drain
    [21:14] <Badkiss> lol wind im not selling, im trying to save
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    [21:14] <Wind“> go save someone else
    [21:14] <Con_Fu_Se> Badkiss: save yourself
    [21:14] <Wind“> somewhere else
    [21:14] * Dark|Angel set mode +m
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    [21:14] <Badkiss> aw
    [21:14] <aCheekyMonke> lol
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    [21:14] <Wind“> hm
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    [21:14] <Bikerdawg_> Save me badkiss
    [21:14] <Deathdealer> even the smallest light shines in the darkness
    [21:14] <aCheekyMonke> lol
    [21:14] <Badkiss> i dont do that bikerdawg
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    [21:15] <Badkiss> i just help
    [21:15] <Deathdealer> and the cherubim had a flaming sword that turned whichever way
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    [21:15] * X sets mode: +l 112
    [21:15] <Bikerdawg_> Awwwwww but im hungry save me from starvation lol
    [21:15] <aCheekyMonke> Caveo atrum lux lucis
    [21:15] <Con_Fu_Se> what about the nephelim?:p
    [21:15] <Con_Fu_Se> or the ophalim?^^
    [21:15] * Dark|Angel is lost
    [21:15] <Wind“> do you know what chrubim means literally? cabbages.
    [21:15] <aCheekyMonke> lol
    [21:15] <Wind“> i kid you not.
    [21:15] <Badkiss> well that was harsh
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    [21:16] <Deathdealer> and seraphim and the sons of adam
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    [21:16] <Con_Fu_Se> that's something… six-winged cabages
    [21:16] * Bikerdawg_ joins DA in the land of the lost
    [21:16] <john_cons> just ok with chit-chat, not to discuss religion? seriously, i couldn't see religion mentioned in the rules
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    [21:16] <Deathdealer> i do not have a market garden
    [21:16] <Wind“> you're worshipping vegetables. think about that.
    [21:16] <Con_Fu_Se> john_cons: it's not religion … it's the faming it comes along with it
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    [21:16] <aCheekyMonke> lol
    [21:17] * X sets mode: +l 115
    [21:17] <Con_Fu_Se> especialy by all those self-righteous "I'm doing this for your own good"
    [21:17] * Xarana sets mode: -b *!*@Raccc.users.undernet.org
    [21:17] <garyh> hey people
    [21:17] <Con_Fu_Se> *flaming
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    [21:17] <Q^TE> hey garyh
    [21:17] <Dark|Angel> garyh!!!!!!!!!!
    [21:17] <Bikerdawg_> Religion and politics bring too many argumenys john
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    [21:17] <Deathdealer> true
    [21:17] <Con_Fu_Se> people make both :p
    [21:17] <john_cons> faming, that's just to mess with foreigners i reckon
    [21:17] <Con_Fu_Se> so it's people argueing
    [21:17] <john_cons> things should be transparent
    [21:17] <john_cons> i dont think your rules are
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    [21:17] <Con_Fu_Se> in this case don't hate the game… hate the player :p
    [21:17] <garyh> Dark|Angel: I know you? 😛
    [21:18] <Dark|Angel> well maybe;p
    [21:18] <john_cons> you have communist russie type rules, that are not transparent, it seems to me
    [21:18] <john_cons> no offence
    [21:18] <garyh> hmmm
    [21:18] <Con_Fu_Se> john_cons: you're being obsessive
    [21:18] <Wind“> where are you from john_cons?
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    [21:18] <Q^TE> john_cons change what u talking abt
    [21:18] <Wind“> besides, china is the new russia.
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    [21:18] <Con_Fu_Se> omg… Wind“ wiat till either russia or china hears that :p
    [21:18] <john_cons> i said sorry, i just try to express what i mean, no offence
    [21:18] <garyh> do i get any hints atleast, Dark|Angel? 😛
    [21:18] * X sets mode: +l 102
    [21:18] <Con_Fu_Se> *wait
    [21:19] <john_cons> im just sincere
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    [21:19] <Deathdealer> healthy  huh
    [21:19] * Dark|Angel is now known as ReNA`
    [21:19] <Con_Fu_Se> john_cons: you're acrtually being obsessive
    [21:19] <john_cons> cant attack anyone for being sincere i hope, i was just a bit bafeled since i wasn't allowed to write here about what was on my mind
    [21:19] <Q^TE> yes john_cons but your complains wont leadu any place
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    [21:19] <ReNA`> NOW!!
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    [21:19] <ReNA`> why dont we drop that topic john_cons
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    [21:20] <Con_Fu_Se> I say we drop him :p
    [21:20] <Deathdealer> benefit of the doubt
    [21:20] <Bikerdawg_> Wb silent
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    [21:20] <Silent-Rock> got DC 🙁
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    [21:20] <Con_Fu_Se> like *slip* "oops… where did he go?"
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    [21:20] <john_cons> yes, i think the best thing is to not open your mouth here, i'm a bit confused about when i am allowed to write what's sincerely on my mind
    [21:20] <garyh> hmm
    [21:20] * Con_Fu_Se takes it out on his keyboard
    [21:20] <Con_Fu_Se> john_cons: you are pushing it
    [21:21] <Con_Fu_Se> and you know it
    [21:21] <Con_Fu_Se> so don't stop complaining
    [21:21] <john_cons> no, i'm just being sincere
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    [21:21] <ReNA`> john_cons
    [21:21] <john_cons> now i'm a bit
    [21:21] <john_cons> what's it called
    [21:21] <ReNA`> didnt u read the rules?
    [21:21] <Con_Fu_Se> john_cons: keep saying that to yourself
    [21:21] <john_cons> frustrated
    [21:21] <Deathdealer> emotionally honest
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    [21:21] <john_cons> im frustrated
    [21:21] <Con_Fu_Se> you may even believe it … eventually
    [21:21] <Con_Fu_Se> *come to believe it
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    [21:21] <Con_Fu_Se> john_cons: and you're trying to take it out in here
    [21:21] <john_cons> im frustrated with the channel rules now, i can notice this myself
    [21:21] <Bikerdawg_> Well til it calms down a bit imma go get some food ill bbl
    [21:22] <ReNA`> tc biker
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    [21:22] <john_cons> i'm trying to find a way to let out steam
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    [21:22] <Bikerdawg_> Ty DA
    [21:22] <ReNA`> hb
    [21:22] <Badkiss> unfortunately john, this is not the right place
    [21:22] * ReNA` is now known as Dark|Angel
    [21:22] <Con_Fu_Se> I've been watching you trying to connect everything you see into thise "anti-commie" propganda you were so well spoonfed all this years and has been pissing you off
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    [21:22] <john_cons> this channel made me frusterated now
    [21:22] <Bikerdawg_> Like a prom dress at midnight…..im off
    [21:22] <Dark|Angel> lol
    [21:22] <Silent-Rock> lol
    [21:22] * Q^TE sets mode: +b *!*@86.143.19.177
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    [21:22] <john_cons> i wasn't frustrated before i started discussing here
    [21:22] #usa Cannot send to channel
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    [21:22] <Silent-Rock> hahahaha
    [21:22] <john_cons> it
    [21:22] #usa Cannot send to channel
    [21:23] * You were kicked by Q^TE (YOU dont like it stay OUT!!)
    Session Close: Sat May 09 21:23:01 2009

  • Ny oppdatering fra Trond Halvorsen om problemene på SOL-debattforum osv. (In Norwegian)







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    Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:53 AM





    To:

    Trond Halvorsen <trond-h@getmail.no>



    Hei,

    ja jeg har også hatt mye problemer på norske debattforum, og også på engelske.

    De problemene jeg hadde med trakassering og sensur, på VGD,

    Veggavisen, Aftenpostens forum

    og Dagbladets kommentarsystem, de sendte jeg om til Pressens Faglige Utvalg.

    Men de har ikke gjort noe, og nå ligger det hos han sjefen der, Per

    Edgar Kokkvold, han som muslimene

    gikk rundt med plakater av under Muhammed-tegning bråket.

    Men han har ikke gjort noe.

    Skal jeg se om jeg finner en link:

    http://johncons-mirror.blogspot.com/search/label/Pressens%20Faglige%20Utvalg%20(PFU)

    Så det er sånn jeg har gjort det, når jeg har blitt sperra fra

    forumene, å kontakte først sjefen for VGD, så sjefen for VG,

    og så PFU da.

    For å bruke VGD som eksempel.

    Men dem tørr kanskje ikke å sperre deg fra forumet, siden mange folk

    følger med på hva du skriver der.

    Så kanskje de gjør det om til krangling istedet.

    Hva vet jeg.

    Men hvis jeg skal gi tilbakemelding, så var det mye enklere for meg, å

    skjønne den forrige e-posten din,

    om 11. september osv.

    Det her med konfliktene på SOL-forumet, det blir mer uoversiktelig,

    for meg som utenforstående, å skjønne

    så mye av.

    Men jeg tror nok det er sånn at debattforumene i Norge, er under

    kontroll, eller at det er folk som har en

    kampanje mot folk på nettet.

    Såkalt ‘Group Stalking’ i sammenheng med noe som heter ‘mind control’,

    som jeg har lest om på Xiando

    sine nettsider blant annet.

    Det er noe New World Order-greier, vil jeg si.

    Men det virker som om du er tåler en støyt fra de her folka, jeg har

    lest noen av de meldingene fra SOL-

    moderatorer, eller hva det var, som ikke så så bra ut.

    Men det er jo ikke meninga, mener jeg, at det skal være en sånn tone,

    på debattforum, for det er jo tross

    alt snakk om folk som bor i samme land.

    Og det er ingen erklærte kriger i Norge.

    Og hvis det da er krigersk stemning, på debattfora, så mener jeg det

    kan da virke som at det er noe slags

    hemmelig krig da.

    Men men.

    Men jeg publiserer om det problemene på SOL-debattforumet også jeg.

    Så får jeg litt mer innhold på bloggen her, siden jeg først har begynt

    å skrive blogg mener jeg.

    Så igjen takk for oppdatering om det.

    Har du prøvd å snakke med SOL om problemene forresten?

    Har du mange lesere på SOL-debatt nå for tiden, og hvor mange lesere

    har du på blogg osv?

    Med vennlig hilsen

    Erik Ribsskog

    2009/2/11 Trond Halvorsen <trond-h@getmail.no>:

    > Hei.

    >

    >

    >

    > I 2006. mars/april hadde jeg laget en webside

    > http://home.chello.no/trondh/911/bluff2.html

    >

    >

    >

    > Jeg begynte å skrive på SOL og skrev et innlegg om 11. september. Tråden var

    > svært aktiv og hadde 20.000 lesere på et døgn. Jeg mente da at Bush sto bak

    > og visste ingenting om Silverstein. På forumet var det en som het angelfire

    > som var svært så ivrig på å diskutere med meg. Han la fra dårlige

    > forklaringer og avsporinger fra åpenbare bevis. Han hang etter meg og skulle

    > overbevise meg om at det var Laden som sto bak og han kom med tullete og

    > lange forklaringer. Det virket ikke som han var ute etter sannheten. Det

    > virket mer som han prøvde å dekke over en sannhet han visste.

    >

    >

    >

    > Jeg forsto ikke hvorfor det var norske folk på norske fora som var så ivrig

    > på å dekke over denne kriminelle hendelsen i USA begått av den amerikanske

    > regjering.

    >

    >

    >

    > Angelfire var riktignok ikke den eneste, men jeg bemerket meg han mest, for

    > han var mest ivrig.

    >

    >

    >

    > Jeg skrev på sol innimellom og oppdaterte om det jeg fant ut. Når jeg kom

    > fram til at jødiske Silverstein var mannen bak nedrivingen WTC’ene, så

    > begynte slettingen fra sol.

    >

    >

    >

    > Det var mye aktivitet videre framover, men la meg hoppe fram til da

    > angelfire ble fersket i løgn, og endte med å slette nicket sitt og spamme

    > forumet en hel søndagsnatt i et forsøk på å overbevise sol-brukerne om at

    > han var blitt slettet av sol.

    >

    >

    >

    > Søndag ettermiddag, 30. november skrev angelfire:

    >

    >

    >

    > solredaksjonen viser muskler… hihi

    >

    > Publisert 30 november, 2008 – 20:52 av angelfire

    >

    >

    >

    > nå fikk ejg apost…. jeg har værsågod å slutte å poste "irrelevante poster"

    > her på norsk politikk, ellers kan jeg finne meg en annen plass å debattere

    > 😀

    >

    > hihi. lurer på hvor mange sånne poster jødetrond har fått?

    >

    >

    >

    > HVA OM DERE KJØTTHUER TAR DEM SOM ØDELEGGER DETTE FORUMET ISTEDENFOR Å HAKKE

    > PÅ DE REGISTRERTE BRUKERNE?

    >

    > ååå, dere kan ikke true de anonyme med utestengelse nei…. står dere helt

    > maktesløse dere da, stakkars arme idioter…..

    >

    > så dere får ta ut frustrasjonen på oss registrerte da…. ban meg om der er

    > det du vil, da komemr jeg bare tilbake som uregistrert og du vet hvordan det

    > går….. du blir ikke kvitt jødetrond, og du blir ikke kvitt meg heller…

    >

    >

    >

    > jeg kan forresten nevne at sols "anti spam cop" poster spørsmålet ukryptert,

    > helt i klartekst…. "hva er 19 + 8" kan leses rett ut av sourcen som ren

    > tekst, og det er en smal sak å sette opp en bot til å igjenkjenne

    > spørsmålet, regne ut svaret, og dermed spamme forumet…

    >

    >

    >

    > nei uff, sa jeg enda mere dere ikke liker nå… oi, så trist…. se til

    > helvete å slutt å plage vanlgie brukere, ellers kan det hende jeg setter opp

    > en spambot….

    >

    > det værste som skjer er at jeg får viljen min, nemlig at dere ser dere nødt

    > til å stenge for at anonyme får poste, som på kr. dom.

    >

    >

    >

    > Etter over et år med daglig IP-blokkering fra SOL-redaksjonen visste jeg når

    > han var på jobb. Jeg merket når han var på jobb i helger og på

    > ettermiddager, for hvis han var på jobb, ble IP-adressen min blokkert hvis

    > jeg hadde skrevet et innlegg.

    >

    >

    >

    > Jeg sjekket profilen til SOL-redaksjonen og den viste at han ikke hadde vært

    > innlogget siden lørdag ettermiddag. Jeg kalte meg SOL-redaksjonen og skrev

    > svar til angelfire:

    >

    >

    >

    > Ingen apost

    >

    > by SOL-redaksjonen (M) on 30/11/2008 – 21:16

    >

    >

    >

    > Vi har ikke vært pålogget siden igår og vi har ikke sendt deg noen apost.

    > Slike beskyldninger ønsker vi oss frabedt.

    >

    >

    >

    > SOL-redaksjonen

    >

    >

    >

    > hehe 😛

    >

    > by angelfire on 30/11/2008 – 21:19

    >

    >

    >

    > hvem sa det skjedde i dag? 😛

    >

    >

    >

    > 🙂

    >

    > by Anonym on 30/11/2008 – 21:22

    >

    >

    >

    > Publisert 30 november, 2008 – 20:52 av angelfire

    >

    > "nå fikk ejg apost…."

    >

    >

    >

    > Nå, som i akkurat nå? Dvs 30 nov.2008, kl 20.52..sannsynligvis litt før,

    > siden tasting tar tid.

    >

    >

    >

    >

    >

    > hehe..

    >

    > by Anonym on 30/11/2008 – 21:23

    >

    >

    >

    > vi var minst 2 som tenkte likt 🙂 *rusker angelfire i håret*

    >

    >

    >

    >

    >

    > åhh….

    >

    > by angelfire on 30/11/2008 – 21:25

    >

    >

    >

    > … faen da. jaja, det spiller liten rolle for jeg fikk den faktisk i dag,

    > så hva f. er problemet.

    >

    > slutt nå å heng deg opp i detaljene…

    >

    >

    >

    > Fra: SOL redaksjonen

    >

    > Til: angelfire

    >

    > Emne: Irrelevante poster på Norsk politikk

    >

    > Dato: 30 november, 2008 – 12:56

    >

    >

    >

    > Hei,

    >

    >

    >

    > Dersom du ikke skjønner at det kun skal debatteres Norsk politikk på dette

    > forumet, kan du gjerne finne deg et annet sted å debattere.

    >

    >

    >

    > Mvh.

    >

    > SOL Kundeservice

    >

    >

    >

    >

    >

    > ikke innlogget

    >

    > by JE on 30/11/2008 – 21:47

    >

    >

    >

    >   Fra: SOL redaksjonen

    >

    >   Dato: 30 november, 2008 – 12:56

    >

    >

    >

    > SOL redaksjonen har ikke vært innlogget idag.

    >

    >

    >

    > Fortsettelse følger… J






  • Det er ikke bare snodigheter fra England, som det står om på johncons-blogg idag, nå dukket det sannelig opp noen snodigheter fra Norge og SOL-forumet







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    Erik Ribsskog

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    Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 6:40 PM





    To:

    Trond Halvorsen <trond-h@getmail.no>



    Hei,

    du skrev noen kommentarer på bloggen min, for noen uker siden, det er

    derfra jeg har

    pratet med deg tidligere:

    http://johncons-mirror.blogspot.com/search/label/Trond%20Halvorsen%20(Som%20kommenterer%20om%2011.%20september%20og%20sionisme%20osv).

    Og jeg har også en tracking-cookie på bloggen, hvor man kan se hva

    folk søker på, på Google,

    når de får opp min blogg som søkeresultat.

    Og da ser jeg der, at det er en del folk i Norge, som søker på ditt

    navn, nå og da, ganske ofte.

    (Det burde være noen referanser til det, i linken over og).

    Jeg kjenner jo ikke dette SOL-forumet.

    Men jeg ser jo det, at de er i krig mot deg, vil jeg si.

    Og det er vel ikke en moderators rolle, av et forum.

    Sånn burde det ikke være i Norge, at man skal befinne seg i krig mot

    sine landsmenn, på et debattforum.

    Her er det noe som skurrer, og noe som er galt i Norge, vil jeg si.

    Jeg ser også, at de karene prater om ‘HQ’ og ‘min nummer 2’ osv.

    Så man kan lure på hva de mener med det.

    Er det noe hemmelige samfunn disse begrepene knytter seg til?

    Her er det tegn som tyder på at ting ikke er som de burde være, i

    Norge, mener jeg.

    Og det er også egentlig hovedtemaet, på bloggen min, så det er ikke

    umulig at jeg skriver litt om det her

    på bloggen, eller publiserer hele e-posten.

    Det er vel greit å ha åpenhet i samfunnet, mener jeg ihvertfall, som

    politikerne prater så fint om i taler

    i Stortinget og andre steder.

    Så da får man regne med at det er iorden.

    Med vennlig hilsen

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS.

    Linken til det debattforumet jeg skrev den nevnte kommentaren på, det

    skulle være denne linken:

    http://groups.google.com/group/no.fag.psykologi.generell/browse_thread/thread/1cde87758623e14c#

    2009/2/8 Trond Halvorsen <trond-h@getmail.no>:

    > Hei.

    >

    > Har hatt harddiskkrasj og husker ikke hvor jeg har skrevet det innlegget du

    > klipper fra. Hvor har jeg deg fra igjen? 🙂

    >

    >

    > Jeg hadde administrative rettigheter på SOL et døgn. Jeg gjorde noen små

    > endringer på enkelte innlegg og jødene spekulerte i det vide og det brede.

    > De trodde kanskje moderatoren og jeg konspirerte sammen, og noen trodde SOL

    > og jeg konspirerte sammen og masse andre ting. Jeg la inn dette bildet på

    > retningslinjene:

    > http://home.chello.no/liberal/silverstein-wolfowitz.jpg

    >

    > Har noen innlegg fra da som jeg kan sende deg senere. Men mens jeg var

    > administrator så fikk jeg tilgang til moderatoren raggars private aposter,

    > og fant bl.a denne kommunikasjonen mellom Viking8 og raggar:

    >

    >

    > Fra: VIKING8

    > Sendt: 2007-07-19 12:48

    > Til: raggar

    > Tittel: Hei raggar

    >

    > Korr det går, gamle ørn?

    >

    > K

    >

    >

    > Fra: raggar

    > Sendt: 2007-07-20 19:22

    > Til: VIKING8

    > Tittel: RE: Hei raggar

    >

    > Halloen, treg i vendingene her….

    > Gratulere med ny alias side, den kledde deg 🙂

    >

    > Full fart i alle retninger, stresser rundt i egen sfære og andres!

    > Tror jeg bevilger meg en aldri så liten ferie snart, trenger det!

    > Ser du har vært i det store utland, håper du hadde det kjekt der da?

    >

    > Eller nytt under solen, tja… il.primo ansatte jeg som moderator for

    > avlastning av egne gjøremål, håper det går greit!

    >

    > Ellers da, tenkt deg på disse kanter i løpet av sommeren da?

    >

    > mvh.R

    >

    >

    > Fra: viking8

    > Til: raggar007

    > Emne: RE: RE: Hei raggar

    > Dato: tir, 08/07/2007 – 18:22

    >

    > Hepp, Mister!

    >

    > Ja, USA var stort – igjen. Min 5. rundtur. Begynner å tette seg til nå.

    > Mangler 9 stater.

    > Ja, helt OK med il.primo. Herre Gud – jeg orker ikke å hive meg på hylekoret

    > om hvem som regjerer hva. Jeg har tillit til SOL, deg og il.primo. Blir jeg

    > forbandet, så får jeg eller argumentere for det.

    >

    > Ja, det blir nol en tur til Møre på høsten! Det er så satans med styr nå,

    > med større prosjekter. Men jeg MÅ ut av HQ snart. for jeg kveles snart.

    >

    > Jeg gir deg beskjed, så blir det en øl og en mimring. Nei – det blir 4 øl.

    > Næh – det blir 6.

    >

    > V8

    > ———

    >

    > Fra: raggar

    > Sendt: 2007-07-09 05:47

    > Til: common-sense

    > Tittel: Ikke ofte

    >

    > jeg gidder å forsvare meg men, denne gangen gjør jeg det!

    >

    > Jeg har ansatt en ekstra moderator i kampen mot Trond jødehater og jeg ser

    > han har vært ivrig i jobben,hehe

    > Så, dette innlegget det er snakk om er ikke mitt verk.

    >

    > Med tid og stunder skal dere få vite hvem min nr2 er.

    >

    > mvh.raggar

    > ————-

    >

    >

    > Hva slags stilling V8 har vet jeg ikke, men moderatoren spør V8 om det er

    > greit å ansette il.primo, og sånt spør man vel bare en overordnet om…

    >

    > Mvh

    > Trond Halvorsen

    >

    > —–Opprinnelig melding—–

    > Fra: Erik R [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    > Sendt: 8. februar 2009 06:01

    > Til: Trond Halvorsen

    > Emne: Re: SOL-sjefen klikka

    >

    > On Mar 27 2008, 1:04 am, "Trond Halvorsen" <tron…@getmail.no> wrote:

    >> Vi snakket om noe annet enn jøder, men SOL-sjefen vil plutselig snakke om

    >> jøder:

    >>

    >> Hehe, Trond

    >> av viking8 den 26/03/2008 – 17:13

    >> Beklager, Trond, men du lurer/forvirrer ikke en mann med IQ på nærmere

    > 150.

    >> For meg er du et morsomt tidsfordriv. Og det blir for tullete å drive å

    >> skriverironke med deg. Jeg vet jo at SOL – i et forsøk på å være seriøse –

    >> gjør hva de kan for å fjerne dine innlegg fra forumet. Og heldigvis, da

    > det

    >> ikke er bra for demokratiet at alt sulles til.

    >> Jeg tror at jeg følger SOLs oppfordring om å ikke svare på dine

    > psykedeliske

    >> innlegg. Ikke har du snev av kunnskaper om jøder. Sannsynligvis har du

    >> sannsynligvis aldri vært i f.eks. Israel. Jeg har vært der 8 ganger. Alt

    >> blir bare vås i hodet ditt. At en korrumpert, trygdet liten mann i lille

    >> Norge kan sitte å lire av seg så mye svada uten rot i virkeligheten, det

    >> skyldes jo kun to ting; at vi har ytringsfrihet i Norge, og at selv den

    > mest

    >> stupide person får uttale seg. Et av demokratiets største svakheter. Alle

    >> åndsinger kan poppe opp når den vesle skallen får en eller annen syk idé.

    >> F.eks. deg, hvor en jøde neppe aldri har gjort deg noe. Likevel er du helt

    >> forskrudd i knollen om jøder. Bare det – uten at jeg er psykiater – gir

    > meg

    >> grunn til å tro at du faller inn under kategorien "sterkt

    >> behandlingstrengende*", og tvert ville fått behandling på statens regning.

    >> For staten kaster jo bort penger anyway.

    >> —

    >>

    >> Jøder

    >> av JE den 27/03/2008 – 01:40

    >> "Hehehe… Beklager, Trond. Jeg sitter her og leser en vitsebok samtidig

    > som

    >> jeg skriver på forumet. Hehehe. Hva var det vi snakket om igjen? Uansett,

    > du

    >> forvirrer ikke meg. Hva vet du forresten om jøder?"

    >>

    >> [KLIPP informasjon om jøder]

    >>

    >> —

    >> Trond Halvorsen

    >

    > Hei,

    >

    > hvem er han SOL-sjefen da?

    >

    > Hvilken tittel har han egentlig?

    >

    > Det så ut som et veldig ille tilfelle av trakassering dette, jeg har

    > selv blitt kastet ut av mange

    > debattforum, og det enkleste er kanskje å skrive en blogg, og moderere

    > kommentarer der osv.

    >

    > Men jeg har fått en del blogger slettet og, så det er kanskje best å

    > skrive både på blogg og debattforum,

    > det er muilg.

    >

    > Med vennlig hilsen

    >

    > Erik Ribsskog

    >

    >






  • Hvem kontrollerer media? (In Norwegian).

    Hvem kontrollerer media? (In Norwegian).

    Jeg fikk en epost fra kjendisadvokat John Cristian Elden tidligere idag, med spørsmål om å gjøre som Wikipedia, og slette noe greier om en klient av han.

    https://johncons-blogg.net/2009/01/fikk-e-post-fra-advokat-john-christian.html

    Men jeg lurer litt på integriteten til Wikipedia.

    Eller at jeg lurer litt, er vel en underdrivelse.

    Jeg lurer mye på integriteten til Wikipedia.

    E-posten fra Elden fikk meg til å tenke på et søk fra Ansgar Gabrielsens sønn, Philip, her om dagen.

    Man kan se det søket i det andre bildet i denne bloggposten:

    https://johncons-blogg.net/search?updated-max=2009-01-08T22:32:00Z&max-results=7

    Jeg har også en logg, hvor man kan se hva han søker på:

    ‘2009-01-08 20:21:17,”85.19.118.38″,”philip gabrielsen mest sans.”,”Firefox”,”3.0.5″,”Windows XP”,”1280×1024″,”8″,”https://johncons-blogg.net/2008_02_26_archive.html”,”johncons: 26-Feb-2008″,”http://www.google.no/search?hl=no&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Anb-NO%3Aofficial&hs=Hxg&q=philip Gabrielsen styre wikimedia&btnG=S%C3%B8k&meta=”,”www.google.no”,”Google”,”philip gabrielsen styre wikimedia”‘.

    Jeg har sett selv, at den ip-adressen der, den er fra Flums.net, og det er nettstedet til Ansgar Gabrielsens sønn.

    Jeg tok et søk på nettet, i DOS faktisk, noe som heter ‘nslookup’, og her kan man se at den ip-adressen er tilhørende Flums.net:

    Så det er nok ingen tvil om at det er Ansgar Gabrielsens sønn, som søker på dette:

    ‘philip gabrielsen styre wikimedia’.

    Ok, så det sitter en politikerfamilie-fyr, og herjer på Wikimedia.

    Troligvis.

    Jeg har også vært utsatt for nevnte Gabrielsen selv, på Wikipedia, da jeg skrev om innholdet i Grandiosa.

    Da sa Gabrielsen at han hadde ekstrajobb i Stabburet, eller noe annet vrøl, og sensurerte om dette:

    http://no.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brukerdiskusjon:Johncons&diff=3498327&oldid=3498315

    Og når det er sånn på Wikipedia, hvordan er da situasjonen i avisene?

    VG, Dagbladet og Aftenposten osv.?

    Og hva med NRK og TV2?

    Sitter det sånne ‘luringer’, ala Philip Gabrielsen, og kontrollerer hva som blir publisert?

    Jeg vet det ikke sikkert, men jeg synes det er grunn til å stille spørsmål om dette.

    Så sånn er det.

    Med vennlig hilsen

    Erik Ribsskog

  • Har oppdatert litt på Bertelsmanns Wikipedia-side. (In Norwegian).

    Har oppdatert litt på Bertelsmanns Wikipedia-side. (In Norwegian).

    http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertelsmann

    PS.

    Wikipedia driver å fjerner hva som blir skrevet, fra ‘historikk’.

    Det er noe de har begynt med i det siste tror jeg:

    http://no.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bertelsmann&action=history

    Og de kaller det ‘sjikane’, men jeg bare skriver om hva som har skjedd.

    Men hvis de kaller fakta for sjikane, så er det vel sjikane da.

    Det er mulig.

    Med vennlig hilsen

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS.

    Her er en scan av den e-posten som hun Vivian Steinsland sendte, med flaggermus osv.:

    Det var også hun Steinsland, som sendte de bildene av rumper osv., som er brukt som ‘button’, i headeren for denne bloggen, for problemene på Arvato/Microsoft, som det står mer om i denne linken:

    http://www.scribd.com/groups/view/14830-arvato-services-ltd-s-microsoft-scandinavian-product-activation

    I den linken, så kan man også se, at hun mobbet meg, noe ganske forfærdelig, på Microsoft-aktiveringen.

    Hun var team-leader, og fant opp regler hele tiden, som gjorde jobben mer og mer slitsom, spesiellt for meg som nordmann, som bare fikk danske samtaler, og måtte ta de like bra som f.eks. finner tok finske samtaler, når man tenker på språkproblemene, med å skjønne dansk, og at dansker skal skjønne norsk.

    Dette står det mer om i linken ovenfor, også flere e-poster som inneholder mobbing fra henne mot vanlige medarbeidere, meg og alle ansatte, hvor nedsettende utrykk blir brukt osv.

    Det var også hun Vivian Steinsland, som det virket som om kontrollerte hun Emelie Wallin, noen uker etter at hun plutselig forsvant fra jobben.

    Det skrev jeg om i en bloggpost her om dagen.

    Jeg skal se om jeg finner linken til den posten.

    https://johncons-blogg.net/2008/10/vivann-steinsland-fra-bergen-var-det.html

    (Jeg har kontaktet politiet i Liverpool og også Kripos, og den norske ambassaden i London, om disse problemene, men de er ikke interessert, og ringer ikke tilbake, ikke engang etter at jeg gikk til det norske konsulatet i Liverpool, for å få de til å ringe politiet i Liverpool. Selv ikke da ringte politiet tilbake).

  • En dansk avis skriver om yttringsfriheten og Muhammed-tegningene osv. i Norge. Dag Solstad markerte seg visst som en motstander av yttringsfriheten.

    Som den tyske journalist Henryk Broder formulerede det efter 2006 optøjret over den danske muhammedtegninger:

    ”Objektivt set var tegningerne en storm i et glas vand. Men subjektivt var det en styrkedemonstration i konteksten af ”civilisationernes sammenstød”, en generalprøve før den virkelige opførelse. Muslimerne demonstrerede hvor hurtigt og effektivt de kan mobiliseres – og Vesten intet andet end frygt, kujonagtighed og en overskyggende bekymring for handelsbalancen. Nu ved muslimerne, at de har med en papirtiger at gøre, hvis brølen er intet andet end en båndoptagelse”

    I 2008, tre år efter tegningerne først blev publiceret, er emnet stadig meget levende i mange muslimers sind. Mere end 200 lovgivere råbte: ”Død over Islam´s fjender” under en vredesfuld demonstration uden for det Afghanske parlament, protesterende mod genoptrykningen af tegningerne i Danmark, og udgivelsen af den Islam-kritiske film Fitna af den hollandske politiker Wilders. På samme tid tilstrømmer dansk hjælp til at genåbne skoler i Afghanistan, selvom kritikere siger, at curriculum er baseret på fundamentalistisk Islam. En boykotkampagne af danske og hollandske produkter blev lanceret i Jordan. Dette inkluderede annoncer i aviser, radio og fjernsyn, der tilskynder forbrugere til at undlade at købe navngivne varer. Organisationen ”The Messenger of Allah Unite Us”, har lavet t-shirts, stickers og plakater med logoet “Lev uden det”.

    ”Danske muslimske organisationer har til hensigt at føre sagen ved Den Europæiske Menneskerettighedsdomstol”, har den muslimske leder Mohammed Khalid Samha sagt til IslamOnline, det store engelsksprogede website grundlagt af Det Muslimske Broderskab´s åndelige leder Yusuf al-Qaradawi, efter en domstol afviste et sagsanlæg fra syv muslimske grupper. ”Vi var ret sikre på, at den danske domstol ikke ville være retfærdige overfor muslimer”, sagde Samha. Samtidigt blev to tunesiske mænd arresterede, og anklaget for mordplaner på Jyllandsposten´s tegner Kurt Westergaard.

    Som Bruce Bawer, forfatter af bogen ”While Europe Slept”, formulerer det i et essay ”Courage and Cowardice in Scandinavia”, fra juni 2008, efter en bombesprængning møntet på Danmark: ”Da en bilbombe sprang uden for Danmark´s ambassade i Islamabad, d. 2 juni, dræbende otte, var det let at gætte hvem der havde gjort det og hvorfor. Og ganske vist, nogle dage senere tog al-Qaeda æren og bekræftede motivet: Muhammedtegningerne. De blev oprindeligt publiceret i Jyllandsposten d. 30 september 2005, og blev genoptrykt af en række aviser d. 13 februar, i solidaritet med turbanbombetegneren Kurt Westergaard, dagen før målet for tre snigmorderes planer, der i den forbindelse blev arresterede. Det faktum at de danske medier generelt gennem de sidste tre år har givet Jyllandsposten en hård medfart for at ”støde” muslimerne, var den umiddelbare årsag til bombesprængningen”

    ”Blasfemi” mod Islam bærer potentielt ifølge Sharia dødsstraffen. I juni 2008 dømte en pakistansk dommer en muslim til døden, på grundlag af at have fornærmet Islam´s profet Muhammed.

    I kontrast til Danmark´s trods, overgav andre skandinaviske lande sig så hurtigt som menneskeligt muligt det islamiske pres. Bawer igen:

    ”Sverige valgte en anden vej. Da et politisk website publicerede Jyllandsposten´s tegning, sendte regeringen politiet for at lukke det. Yderligere på det seneste, ramt af sin egen tegningskrise, involverende kunstner Lars Vilks, mødtes statsminister Fredrik Reinfeldt ikke bare de muslimske ambassadører, men blev prist for sin ”fredsånd”. Norge kunne heller ikke pudse glorien”. Efter at en lille avis, Magazinet, havde genoptrykt Jyllandspostens tegninger (det var lige meget, at aviser i Spanien, Tyskland og Frankrig også havde trykt disse), valgte tegning-jihadisterne også at udse sig Norge som mål, satsende på, at det dialog-lalleglade, F.N.-forgudende ”fredsland”, ville båndlægge sine friheder, ved første tegn på muslimsk ubehag. De fik ret. Norge´s regering sank forsmædeligt sammen, holdende en pressekonference d. 10 februar 2006, hvor Magasinet´s ”skændige” redaktør Vebjørn Selbekk, med statsminister Jens Stoltenberg´s velsignelse, næsegrus lagde sig foran et opbud af imamer, og undskyldte at have udøvet sin ret til ytringsfrihed. Dette øjeblik var sandsynligvis det mest nedværdigende øjeblik i Norge´s moderne historie. Men det var svært at få øje på, grundet politikernes og journalisternes fejring af dette udsalg af friheden, som en triumf for fredsskabelsen”.

    Selbekk, redaktør for den lille kristne avis Magazinet, havde modstået presset fra muslimer, der havde lavet dødstrusler, og fra det norske etablissement. Men i sidste instans hasteindkaldte den norske arbejdsminister Bjarne Håkon Hanssen en pressekonference. Der fremlagde Selbekk en ynkelig undskyldning for genoptrykningen af tegningerne. Ved hans side, accepterende hans angerhandling, var Mohammed Hamdan, den dengang øverste i Norge´s Islamiske Råd. Som Bawer indikerer, var det et billede direkte taget fra en shariadomstol, med den muslimske leder deklarerende Selbekk fortsat værende under hans beskyttelse.

    I en fredagsbøn d. 3 februar 2006, tilskyndede Yusuf al-Qaradawi, Det Muslimske Broderskab´s spirituelle leder, verdens største islamiske organisation, tilhængere til at vise raseri over tegningerne. Bønnen blev transmitteret i fjernsynet. Dagen efter blev den danske og norske ambassade i Syrien angrebet. Det bør her nævnes, at både Danmark og Norge er medlemmer af NATO, og at ødelæggelsen af ambassaderne kunne anses for en krigshandling. Få dage senere besøgte en delegation ledet af Mohammed Hamdan fra Norge´s Islamiske Råd og en repræsentant for Oslo´s biskop Qatar, for et møde med Qaradawi. Rejsen fik støtte fra den norske regering. Yusuf al-Qaradawi accepterede så undskyldningen, som Vebjørn Selbekk havde fremsat d. 10 februar.

    Walid al-Kubaisi, en muslimsk kritiker af Islam boende i Norge, advarede, at Yusuf al-Qaradawi er farligere end terroristlederen Osama bin Laden, og at Det Muslimske Broderskab, hvis grundlægger Qaradawi som ung fulgte, ønsker at verden skal følge Sharia. Kubaisi reagerede kraftigt på erklæringen fra Hamdan, at Hamdan nu ville give Selbekk beskyttelse: ”Det skræmmer mig, at han præsenterer sig selv som en autoritet, der kan tilbyde eller fratage beskyttelse. Betyder det, at minister Bjarne Håkon Hanssen mener, at næste gang jeg føler mig truet, efter noget jeg har skrevet, at jeg så skal kontakte Det Islamiske Råd, og ikke politiet? Sørgeligt nok har regeringen i sin iver efter at afslutte problemerne, styrket de autoritære kræfter”. Kubaisi frygtede, at hardcore islamister fra nu af vil nedbrænde noget, hver gang de føler sig stødte over noget, og forventer at få deres vilje”

    Trond Giske, Kulturminister og kirkeanliggender fra Arbejderpartiet, mødtes med Mohammed Hamdan fra Norge´s Islamiske Råd få måneder efter ambassadeangrebene, og bekendtgjorde, at subsidierne til det islamiske råd, vil blive forøget fra 60.000 kroner til 500.000 kroner. Det er en forøgelse på mere end 700% på et enkelt år. Regeringen bekendtgjorde derudover, at de oftere ville mødes med det islamiske råd, for at ”forbedre dialogen”. Lederen Hamdan smilede efter samtalen med Giske. ”Vi er meget tilfredse med mødet. Det er vigtigt for os, at forbedre kontakten med regeringen, så vi bedre kan komme til at kende hinanden”.

    Den status men som ikke-muslim, der bliver accepteret som andenrangsborger, dhimmi, under islamisk styre, refereres til som ”beskyttet”. Under tegningjihad´en demonstrerede venstrekoalitionen offentligt mod de norske autoriteter, at de ikke havde kontrol med borgernes sikkerhed, og derfor for at sikre denne sikkerhed, måtte give efter for muslimernes krav. Dette blev til accepten af islamisk styre under Sharia, et synspunkt der derefter blev styrket af betalinger til muslimer i og udenfor Norge. Disse betalinger fra Giske på vegne af regeringen blev utvivlsomt af muslimerne anset for jizya, ”beskyttelsespenge”, som ikke-muslimer afkræves i forbindelse med underkastelse (Koranen 9:29) som et tegn på deres underdanighed i forhold til Islam, som kompensation for ikke at blive slagtet.

    Norge blev det første vestlige land der anerkendte den dengang Hamas-ledede palæstinensiske regering, og først med direkte overførsel af finansiel hjælp. Den populære udenrigsminister Jonas Gahr Støre fra Arbejderpartier opfordrede andre til at følge efter. Hamas er den palæstinensiske gren af Det Muslimske Broderskab. De udtrykker klart dette i deres charter, hvilket betyder, at Jens Stoltenberg´s venstreorienterede regering var villig til at sponsere en organisation, hvis åndelige leder for nylig havde forårsaget fysiske angreb på hans eget land, og fører krig mod deres civilisation. Dette blev af de fleste norske medier applauderet.

    Gahr Støre deltog i en konference, med deltagere fra dusinvis af lande og medier, vedrørende mulighederne for at ”udbrede diversitet” på en ikke-stødende måde, med Arab News fra Saudi Arabien som ordstyrer. Tegning-jihad´en gav anledning for Norge og Indonesien til at forene kræfter i en Global Inter-Media Dialogue. I juni 2007 blev dette afholdt i Oslo.

    Hovedtaler ved konferencen Doudou Diéne, F.N.´s Special Envoy for Racism, Xenophobia and Intolerance, tilskyndede medierne til aktivt at deltage i skabelsen af et multikulturelt samfund, og udtrykte bekymring over, at den demokratiske proces kunne lede til immigrationsrestriktive partiers tiltagende indflydelse. Diéne repræsenterer Senegal, en fremstående muslim der er medlem af Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), den største stemmeblok i F.N.

    Der har allerede været store indikationer på, at mainstreammedierne allerede har arbejdet i overensstemmelse med disse ideer, længe før denne konference. I England har ledende figurer i BBC stolt annonceret deres aktive støtte til promoveringen af Multikulturalisme. I Danmark i 2008, mens de var under trusler fra muslimer verden over, besluttede Danmarks Radio, med tilsvarende venstreorienterede multikulturelle forudindtagethed, at afholde en ”Miss Tørklæde”-konkurrence for kvinder, med det eneste krav at de er over 15 år, og bærer tørklæde, på samme måde som muslimske kvinder er pålagt at gøre.

    Som Dr. Daniel Pipes peger på, har ”selvhadende vestlige en udpræget vigtighed, grundet deres prominente rolle som meningsdannere på universiteter, medier, religiøse institutioner og kunsten. De fungerer som hjælpere for islamismens mujahideen´ere”.

    Under yderligere trusler mod Danmark besluttede den regionale Adresseavisen i 2008, at vise solidaritet med ”tegnerne”. Som Bruce Bawer skriver:

    ”Trondheim´s Adresseavisen trykte tegningerne der, uden dog at afbilde Muhammed, stødte den ”moderate” muslimske advokat Abid Q. Raja, der – tilsyneladende menende at Adresseavisen havde overholdt aftalens ord, men ikke aftalens ånd, fra Magazinet-aftalen – argumenterede, at tegningerne ikke skulle have været publicerede, da de af muslimer ville blive ”misforståede”. Den Pakistanske ambassadør Rab Nawaz Khan var enig, kaldende tegningerne en ”terrorhandling”, der kan ”sætte norske borgere i fare”. Når en tegning er terrorisme, og en bombe er en form for udtryk, så lever man i Orwell-land. Men øjeblikkets stjerne var dog forfatter Dag Solstad, der kun få dage før bombningen afleverede hvad man kunne kalde Norge´s version af Rowan Williams sharialektion. Solstad gik ikke eksplicit ind for Sharia. I stedet argumenterede han for, at ytringsfrihed faktisk ikke er ønskværdigt, eftersom den drukner fortjenstfulde arbejder (såsom hans egne værker, sandsynligvis) i et hav af vulgaritet (en kategori han placerede Muhammedtegningerne i). Solstad´s kolleger ytrede moderate protester”.

    Solstad, med sin lange historie af sympatier for kommunistiske bevægelser, er ikke unik. I skrivende stund kritiserer mange norske observatører og intellektuelle ”ytringsfrihedsfundamentalisterne” i store medier.

    Findes der ingen opposition til disse synspunkter? Jo, heldigvis. Per Edgar Kokkvold, generalsekretær for den norske presseassociation fortjener ros for sin principfaste opposition mod censuren (der skaffede ham adskillige dødstrusler). En bog af et tidligere parlamentsmedlem Hallgrim Berg, advarer mod planer om at omforme Europa til Eurabien. Han diskuterer den tiltagende anti-amerikanisme i Europa, og fasstholder, at U.S.A. er den eneste magt der er i stand til at sikre friheden. I 2005 iværksatte politiet en udrykning til lederen af det højreorienterede parti Fremskridtspartiet Carl I. Hagen. Hagen kritiserede Islam, og kunne ikke se nogen ligheder med moralkoncepterne i kristendommen. Han sagde, at hvis Israel taber i Mellemøsten, vil Europa som den næste bukke under for Islam. Han mente, at kristne burde støtte Israel, og modsætte sig islamiske forgreninger til Europa. I et hidtil uset skridt angreb en gruppe ambassadører Hagen i et offentligt brev. Andre politikere gav hurtigt efter og fordømte Hagen, inklusive statsminister Kjell Magne Bondevik fra Kristendemokraterne. I 2008 ser Fremskridtspartiet ud til, for første gang i generationer, at erstatte Arbejderpartiet som landets største parti.

    Der findes lommer af modstand i Norge (og i mindre udstrækning i Sverige), men generelt ser det sløjt ud. Danmark er for nuværende det eneste skandinaviske land, med noget der bare ligner en rygrad, men danskerne kompenserer for dette, ved at være ét af de ledende lande i den vestlige verden, der modsætter sig islamificeringen.

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