Stikkord: Steve Harding (Fra University of Nottingham ekspert på vikingetiden i England)

Mer om at min morfars onkel Ole Konrad Ribsskog var ordfører i Trondheim. (Fra Nordlandskysten 3. januar 1917)

https://www.nb.no/items/9827266083bb291947f149a8516c5024?page=0&searchText=ribsskog~1

PS.

Her er mer om dette:

https://www.myheritage.no/site-family-tree-67419522/ribsskog#!profile-1000065-info

PS 2.

Det var forresten sånn.

Mens jeg bodde, i Leather Lane, (hvor jeg bodde fra 2006 til 2011), i Liverpool.

At jeg en gang, var på en viking-konferanse, i Chester.

(For jeg fikk etterhvert litt hjemlengsel i England, (jeg var ikke i Norge en eneste gang, mellom 2005 og 2014).

Og for å kurere den hjemlengselen, så dro jeg blant annet på dagsturer, til steder, hvor norske/skandinaviske vikinger, hadde bodd, i Liverpool og omegn.

I stedet for å dra på sommerferie, til Norge, for eksempel).

Og på vikingkonferansen så sa de, at fotballaget, (og stedet), Tranmere, (på halvøya Wirral, over elven Mersey, fra Liverpool).

Det laget/stedet hadde fått navnet sitt, fra norske vikinger.

Navnet var egentlig Tranmel, (eller Tranmæl, som i navnet til han som var min morfars onkel sin nest-kommanderende, som ordfører, i Trondheim).

Og det ordet betyde trane-strand, (eller trane-sand/trane-sandstrand), sa en professor, (ved navn Harding vel), på den nevnte viking-konferansen.

(Sanden var finkornet, som mel.

Så vikingene brukte samme ord om sand og mel, da.

For å si det sånn).

Så sånn var visst det.

Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

Mvh.

Erik Ribsskog

PS 3.

Her er mer om dette:

https://youtu.be/sPAwv6tIRxY?t=420

19. januar 2021

Jeg sendte en ny e-post til Midtgardssenteret

Gmail – Funnet vikingskip i England

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Funnet vikingskip i England

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:42 AM

To:

info@midgardsenteret.no

Hei,

det har forresten blitt laget en YouTube-video om det skipet, så jeg nå, etter at jeg sendte den første e-posten:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld-_4XP_cWk&feature=player_embedded

Mvh.

Erik Ribsskog

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

Date: 2011/8/4
Subject: Funnet vikingskip i England
To: info@midgardsenteret.no

Hei,

jeg bor, (som flyktning), i England, og har funnet et vikingskip, (de lokale sa til meg at det var et vikingskip der, da jeg besøkte den gamle norske vikingehavnen Meols, og jeg spurte om jeg var der vikinghavnen var, til en lokal som jogga forbi), under en pub, i England.

Skipet var visst på 30 fot, eller noe, tror jeg.

Og det er klinkebygget.

(Det ble funnet under byggearbeid, men senere gravet ned igjen).

Britene vil ikke grave det opp, de er redd at tømmeret skal bli dårlig.

Trenger hjelp til å grave opp vikingeskipet, har snakket med en arkeolog, fra Museum of Liverpool, på vikingkonferanse i Chester, like før jul, i fjor, han sier at de bare mangler penger.

Har også snakket med bardamene på puben, og har lovet at jeg skal skrive om vikingeskipet, på min norske blogg, (http://johncons-mirror.blogspot.com/).

Så jeg prøver å få til, at det vikingeskipet blir gravet opp da, det ligger under puben The Railway Inn, i Meols, under parkeringsplassen, så det burde være mulig å grave opp.

Det er mulig etter norske vikinger, som flyttet til the Wirral, fra Dublin, og hadde et eget vikingerike der, (en som het Sigmund var konge, og de har fortsatt et sted som heter Thingwall, hvor det var vikingeting da).

Håper dere kan hjelpe med dette.

Jeg har tatt opp om dette på vikingkonferanse, fra salen, i en slags spørretime, så jeg har liksom mitt eget prosjekt på gang, og trenger eventuelt kapital og fagkunnskap om vikingskip, fra noen i Norge, og så kan jeg ta det med museumet osv., de har et nytt, stort museum, Museum of Liverpool, hvor det skipet kanskje kunne ha stått, i en av etasjene.

Håper dere kan kikke på dette!

Mvh.

Erik Ribsskog

5. august 2011

Det her blir som noe ‘goddag mann økseskaft’-greier, det her, for meg. Men men

http://www.spillegal.no/threads/det-er-en-kynisk-ny-verden-erik-ribsskog.16696/page-29

PS.

Her er mer om dette:

http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goddag_mann_%C3%B8kseskaft

PS 2.

Enda mer om dette:

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve/

26. mai 2011
Mer om horer i min halvbror Axel Thomassen sin familie, og vikingskip i England, mm.

Session Start: Mon Jan 03 16:32:03 2011

Session Ident: #oslo

03[16:32] * Now talking in #oslo

03[16:32] * Topic is 'Day changed to 02 Jan 2011 '

03[16:32] * Set by Dr_S!dr_s@i.hvit.legedress.com on Sun Jan 02 00:27:48

[16:33] <tailpush> ripsskogen

[16:34] <eastr> hahaha

[16:34] <eastr> ribbein!

03[16:36] * PiratRaff (PiratRaff@92.178.16.62.customer.cdi.no) has joined #oslo

01[16:36] <john_cons> idioter

[16:36] <@ng> såså

[16:36] <tailpush> DE har tatt bilde av deg, john_cons: http://bildr.no/view/788762

[16:36] <@autoswift> Bildr.no

[16:36] <tailpush> PST

01[16:36] <john_cons> dem tuller med navnet mitt jo

[16:36] <@truls> ja, ribbulf

[16:37] <@Elling> john_cons: det får du tåle

01[16:37] <john_cons> jeg liker ikke at noen tuller med navnet mitt

01[16:37] <john_cons> ok, ellen

[16:37] <@Elling> ikke bli så sint, det er sikkert ikke bra for helsa di

01[16:37] <john_cons> neida det er greit det ellen

03[16:37] * KittyPuff (~schmullus@ip-79-49-72-178.dialup.ice.net) has joined #oslo

[16:37] <@Elling> jeg blir ikke sur fordi en lettere forvirra fyr ikke klarer å skrive navnet mitt riktig

[16:37] <@Elling> du får prøve igjen

01[16:38] <john_cons> den er ålbings ellen

[16:38] <Singollo> Hehe

01[16:38] <john_cons> det får du tåle

[16:38] <Singollo> Kveldens underholdning har begynt

[16:38] <tailpush> hvorfor bruker du nicket john_cons, john_cons

01[16:38] <john_cons> du tørr å chatte her tailpush

[16:38] <@Elling> han får lov.. en gang i blandt

01[16:38] <john_cons> jeg synes du emigrerte fra blablabla igår

[16:39] <tailpush> ja, mafian er ikke ute etter MEG

[16:39] <Singollo> Han må ha kodenavn siden mafian leter etter han

01[16:39] <john_cons> hvorfor poster du bilde av 'meg' med en blomst mellom beina tailpush?

[16:39] <tailpush> syns du var søt

01[16:39] <john_cons> tailpush: det er jo du som ikke har baller

01[16:39] <john_cons> du stikker jo av så fort

[16:39] <tailpush> jo, jeg har to

01[16:39] <john_cons> virka ikke sånn igår

01[16:39] <john_cons> men men

[16:39] <tailpush> neivel

01[16:40] <john_cons> dere tromsøværinger altså

01[16:40] <john_cons> høhø

[16:40] <tailpush> du er litt paranoid er du ikke?

01[16:40] <john_cons> turte ikke å si hvor du var fra engang

01[16:40] <john_cons> dette er om deg ikke meg

[16:40] <tailpush> jeg er fra liverpool.

01[16:40] <john_cons> åkey tenker det jeg

01[16:40] <john_cons> og studerer/chatter fra ntnu

[16:40] <tailpush> nei

01[16:40] <john_cons> særlig du ikke juger da

01[16:40] <john_cons> juger'n

[16:40] <tailpush> det er bare noe mafian har lurt deg til å tro

[16:40] <@Elling> dette var ensspora

[16:41] <@Elling> alle vet at john_cons er gal og tailpush er feig

[16:41] <@Elling> finn på noe nytt

01[16:41] <john_cons> tailpush: det er bare jenter/horer som er så flinke til å juge

03[16:41] * caro sets mode: +l 124

[16:41] <@Elling> har du mye erfaring med horer john_cons ?

[16:41] <LeoKhenir> Elling: enig, skuffanes.

01[16:41] <john_cons> ja, ei i slekta til halvbroren min axel thomassen var visst hore

01[16:42] <john_cons> hu som er svigerdatter av min halvbrors stebror mette holter

[16:42] <Singollo> Men du snakker jo ikke med slekta de

[16:42] <tailpush> jobber hun for mafian da?

01[16:42] <john_cons> dama til bjørn ancona

01[16:42] <john_cons> sønn av en italiensk-amerikansk mafiakar

[16:42] <KittyPuff> aw, crap. drittrouter!

01[16:42] <john_cons> mette holter mente at hu var hore og jugde fælt

01[16:42] <john_cons> hvordan kunne hu vite hvordan været var ut mot lysaker osv., sa holter

[16:43] <Singollo> Er noen av disse navnene ekte?

01[16:43] <john_cons> på begynnelsen av 90-tallet

[16:43] <tailpush> kanskje mette holter løy om at hun var hore, lol

01[16:43] <john_cons> hu virka oppriktig for meg

[16:43] <+|pez|> litt for mye virker oppriktig for deg, john_cons.

03[16:43] * Retrieving #oslo modes…

[16:43] <tailpush> kanskje det var det de ville at du skulle tro, john_cons

01[16:43] <john_cons> det virker også som at søstera mi og cecilie hyde fra svelvik har jobba som horer, i amsterdam, sommeren 1989

01[16:43] <john_cons> men men

[16:44] <@Elling> og du snakker om æreskrenkelse .. hoho

01[16:44] <john_cons> tailpush: jeg trokke det, for hu mette holter virka så sur

[16:44] <@Elling> kanskje vi skal begynne å annmelde litt vi og

01[16:44] <john_cons> Elling: jeg hørte dem snakka om at dem skulle jobbe i amsterdam før dem dro til spania

[16:44] <Singollo> Kalle sin egen søster hore er drøyt

[16:44] <tailpush> john_cons; jaha? sure folk kan ikke lure deg?

01[16:44] <john_cons> søstera mi pia ribsskog og cecilie hyde

[16:44] <@truls> mer tidsbesparende å ban'e han for godt, vel

[16:44] <@Elling> john_cons: so? skal du være på #oslo får du tenke litt over hva du sier

01[16:44] <john_cons> hu dama til han bjørn ancona så litt sånn 'herja' ut og kanskje

[16:44] <tailpush> han trenger ihvertfall fremdeles hjelp

[16:45] <tailpush> ancona?

[16:45] <+|pez|> Hadde broren min kalt meg ei hore rundt andre mennesker, så tror jeg faktisk jeg hadde kuttet all kontakt.

[16:45] <@Elling> tailpush: hepps

[16:45] <tailpush> du mener sikkert ascona

[16:45] <@truls> er resten av familien din like gæren, john_cons?

[16:45] <@Elling> truls: det er bare ham tror jeg

[16:45] <Singollo> Bruke hele navn er ikke alltid heldig, spesielt uten beviser

01[16:45] <john_cons> ja søstera mi, pia ribsskog, vil ikke være venn med meg på facebook engang så

[16:45] <@truls> jeg ser den

01[16:45] <john_cons> jeg sier jo at jeg, erik ribsskog, hørte det

[16:45] <@Elling> er det rart slik du oppfører deg erik?

[16:45] <@Elling> du er tross alt syk

01[16:46] <john_cons> syk kan du være selv ellen

[16:46] <Singollo> Hear say er ikke ett bevis

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01[16:46] <john_cons> dette er ikke hear say, dette er noe jeg hørte cecilie hyde si selv

01[16:46] <john_cons> hvis jeg sier hvem som sa det og når, så er det ikke ryktespredning

[16:46] <Singollo> Til en annen, altså ikke deg. Du kan ha tatt det ut av sammenheng

01[16:47] <john_cons> da bare sier jeg hva som har skedd

01[16:47] <john_cons> nei, jeg overhørte at hun sa det søstera mi, jeg satt ved siden av dem, da dem prata

[16:47] <+|pez|> Så, du har lyttet på din søster ha en fotrolig samtale med noen andre?

01[16:47] <john_cons> nei, de visste jeg var der

01[16:47] <john_cons> de var i min leilighet

01[16:47] <john_cons> men kanskje de lata som at jeg ikke var der

01[16:47] <john_cons> det er mulig

[16:47] <tailpush> du har nok drømt, john_cons

01[16:47] <john_cons> helt sikkert

[16:47] <+|pez|> Jeg vedder en femmer på at du har tatt alt ut av en eller annen større kontekst.

[16:48] <Singollo> Så hvis jeg spør din søster på facebook vil hun svare bekreftende?

01[16:48] <john_cons> pez: egentlig ikke, du får sende femmeren på paypal: eribsskog@gmail.com

[16:48] <@truls> la nå den stakkars søstera hans være i fred. hun har vært gjennom nok

[16:48] <Singollo> Sant nok

[16:48] <tailpush> john_cons; det er jo ikke rart at familien din ikke vil ha noe med deg å gjøre, slik som du baksnakker dem

01[16:49] <john_cons> tailpush: det er jeg som ikke vil ha noe med de å gjøre, de har tulla med meg hele livet

01[16:49] <john_cons> tailpush: jeg er bare glad til

01[16:49] <john_cons> good ridance som de sier

[16:49] <tailpush> det har vi jo bare ditt ord for

[16:49] <tailpush> men hvorfor er du så opphengt i dem da

01[16:49] <john_cons> jeg skriver bare om hva som har skjedd meg

[16:49] <tailpush> "og navna må jeg jo ha med"

01[16:50] <john_cons> sånn som han knausgård for eksempel

01[16:50] <john_cons> ja, noe sånt

[16:50] <tailpush> "detta ække promotion"

[16:50] <tailpush> "detta ække reklame"

[16:50] <tailpush> "jeg skriver om ting som har skjedd meg"

[16:50] <tailpush> "og navna må jeg jo ha med"

[16:50] <@Elling> tailpush: nå får du nesten ban for å bringe frem ekle flashbacks

01[16:50] <john_cons> søstera mi hadde også en venninne, monica lyngstad, som en gang rådet min søster å skrive om sin familie, husker jeg

[16:50] <@Elling> fy

[16:50] <@truls> likevel tror jeg dette. blir bannlyst på nrk. så kanskje dette er siste gang du hører john_cons nå

[16:50] <tailpush> Elling; what, liker du ikke lars kilevink

01[16:50] <john_cons> for det var en sånn spesiell familie, sa monica lyngstad, på 90-tallet

[16:50] <@Elling> nei

01[16:50] <john_cons> så da kan jo jeg også skrive tenkte jeg

[16:51] <@truls> jeg har mer sansen for han herre dra te helvete-fyren

01[16:51] <john_cons> så får jeg skrevet min versjon

[16:51] <@truls> hva-nå-han-heter-igjen

[16:51] <tailpush> beranek

[16:51] <@truls> ja

[16:51] <tailpush> espen b holm

01[16:51] <john_cons> så kan de andre i familien skrive sin versjon, hvis de vil det

01[16:51] <john_cons> faren min, arne mogan olsen, har jo startet blogg, for eksempel

01[16:52] <john_cons> så kan jo søstera mi pia starte pia-blogg

03[16:52] * Singollo is now known as SingPad

[16:52] <tailpush> kanskje de andre i familien ikke ønsker å smøre skittentøyvasken sin ut over hele det jævla internettet

01[16:52] <john_cons> og min fars stedatter christell starte christell-blogg

01[16:52] <john_cons> hvis de vil

03[16:52] * Singollo (~donald@cA313BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) has joined #oslo

[16:52] <hose> stop nå det tullet

[16:52] <hose> og kom fram med vikingskipet

01[16:52] <john_cons> det var rart at hu venninna til søstera mi, monica lyngstad, syntes det var en god ide da

03[16:52] * cor sets mode: +l 126

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01[16:52] <john_cons> jeg har også blitt tullet mye med av familien min, og har måttet bo alene fra jeg var ni år

[16:52] <tailpush> urk

[16:52] <@Elling> ok.. ny regel for john_cons på oslo. slutt å dra frem dritt om andre med fult navn.

[16:52] <tailpush> nå greier det seg

01[16:53] <john_cons> og hvis man ser på www.johncons-fanclub.net

[16:53] <tailpush> john_cons; stikk tilbake til bloggen din.

[16:53] <tailpush> lei. nå.

01[16:53] <john_cons> så kan man også se det, at johncons-blogg er en 'nødblogg'

[16:53] <@Elling> john_cons: les hva jeg skriver. ingen flere fulle navn med tilhørende drittkast og beskyldninger her på #oslo

[16:53] <tailpush> nødblogg! HAAAAAAHAHA

[16:53] <@Elling> hvis du ikke har håndfaste bevis får du holde det i bloggen din

01[16:53] <john_cons> tailpush: du er hele oslo da

[16:53] <tailpush> john_cons; hele verden ler av deg, tror jeg

[16:53] <tailpush> så sånn er nok det

02[16:53] * SjuDDu (~koo@84-52-245.157.3p.ntebredband.no) Quit

01[16:53] <john_cons> ok ellen, jeg skal prøve å huske det, du bestemmer

[16:53] <hose> jaja

[16:53] <hose> få se d

[16:53] <hose> da

01[16:54] <john_cons> hose: vikingskipet måtte jeg sende om til danmark

01[16:54] <john_cons> roskilde museum

01[16:54] <john_cons> ingen i norge var interessert

[16:54] <hose> til danmark?

[16:54] <hose> og grunnen?

01[16:54] <john_cons> ja, jeg har sendt om det til fire viking-museer i norge, men ingen ville hjelpe

[16:54] <hose> den var for lang i england?

01[16:54] <john_cons> bergen sjøfartsmuseum sa at de ikke hadde kompetanse eller resurser til å hjelpe

[16:55] <hose> borte bra hjemme best

01[16:55] <john_cons> vikingskipmuseet svarte ikke

[16:55] <@truls> når er du født john_cons

01[16:55] <john_cons> og norsk sjøfartsmuseum ble bare sure

[16:55] <tailpush> john_cons; kanskje de googlet navnet ditt, fant bloggen din og skjønte at du er klin hakke sprø.

01[16:55] <john_cons> og et fjerde museum svare ikke

01[16:55] <john_cons> i 1970 truls

[16:55] <@truls> danke

[16:56] <tailpush> john_cons; hvorfor skriver du ikke heller skjønnlitteratur? kanskje du fikk råd til både husleie og mat.

01[16:56] <john_cons> tailpush: de får begynne å lese på johncons-fanclub.net, så får de kanskje sammenhengen

[16:56] <hose> sikker på om det var et vikingskip og ikke et oppblåst jolle?

01[16:56] <john_cons> truls: hvordan det?

[16:56] <tailpush> jeg har lest der, john_cons. det er absolutt INGEN sammenheng der. bare vrøvl.

01[16:56] <john_cons> hose: ja, den var klinkebygget, så det er nok et gammelt norrønt skip

01[16:56] <john_cons> tailpush: det er bare folk som ikke har baller som skriver sånt

[16:57] <hose> send til sonans verksted

01[16:57] <john_cons> sonans verksted?

[16:57] <hose> de er ekspert på norrønt oldies

01[16:57] <john_cons> ok, jeg får søke på de på nettet

[16:57] <@Elling> dette skipet han snakker om er godt kjent, og studert av div arkeologer, og det er søkt eu penger for å ekskavere det

01[16:57] <john_cons> jeg får også oppdatere bloggen, siden det var noe nytt om min halvbror axel thomassens familie, som kom fram

[16:58] <tailpush> ja det er jo kult å si "du hakke baller ass" når noen røsker litt i virkeligheten din

[16:58] <@Elling> men det er garantert ingen som er veldig happy for at erik ribsskog blander seg inn

[16:58] <@truls> john_cons: bare lurte. skal ikke bruke det til no'

01[16:58] <john_cons> elling: jeg har lest at det prosjektet konkluderte med å ikke grave opp skipet

[16:58] <tailpush> Elling; aha, såpass

01[16:58] <john_cons> elling: hvilket prosjekt snakker du om. hvem er prosjektleder?

01[16:58] <john_cons> truls: ok np

[16:58] <@Elling> john_cons: det siste offisielle som er sagt i saken er at de har søkt om EU midler, som de ikke fikk (i 2010), og skal søke på nytt i 2011

[16:58] <hose> du får bare sage skipet ned og sende det til post med postoppkrav

01[16:59] <john_cons> Elling: men det er fler prosjekter, har du en link til dette?

[16:59] <hose> send det til kontiki museet

01[16:59] <john_cons> ja kanskje det

[16:59] <@Elling> john_cons: 2 sec, la meg se om jeg finner igjen linken

01[16:59] <john_cons> ok thanks

[16:59] <SingPad> Ikke gi den mannen ideer om vår kulturarv

[16:59] <hose> særlig mye å samle på

[16:59] <@Elling> en eller annen professor Harding er referert i artikkelen

[16:59] <@Elling> hvem som faktisk er prosjektleder aner jeg ikke

[17:00] <+|pez|> bare ingen ødelegger vikingskipet på Hamar, så er jeg kjempefornøyd XD

[17:00] <@truls> professor harding er bra pornonavn

[17:00] <LeoKhenir> |pez|: nerd.

[17:00] <+|pez|> LeoKhenir: You say that like it's a bad thing! :

03[17:00] * LeoKhenir was kicked by Elling (kapish! )

01[17:00] <john_cons> Elling: harding-prosjektet konkluderte med å ikke grave opp skipet, etter råd fra svenske eksperter blant annet

03[17:00] * LeoKhenir (~padan@165-10-9.connect.netcom.no) has joined #oslo

[17:00] <LeoKhenir> wht

[17:00] <@Elling> LeoKhenir: nerdrage!

[17:00] <LeoKhenir> what did I do? 🙁

[17:00] <LeoKhenir> oh

[17:00] <LeoKhenir> 😀

01[17:00] <john_cons> Elling: jeg skal se om jeg finner det. et sec

[17:01] <hose> mel det opp

[17:01] <LeoKhenir> Elling: Hva om jeg mente det positivt?

[17:01] <LeoKhenir> Det hender seg faktisk at jeg kommer med komplimenter istedetfor skjellsord, altså.

[17:01] <hose> og be barna pussle det sammen med lim

[17:01] <Singollo> kanskje han mente kicken positivt

[17:02] <hose> john cons

[17:02] <hose> …

[17:02] <hose> join mafian

03[17:02] * hose was kicked by Elling (troll )

03[17:02] * hose (kiss@cm-84.209.6.53.getinternet.no) has joined #oslo

[17:02] <@ivers> var kjekk den siste saw filmen

[17:03] <@ivers> for en fantasi

[17:03] <@gm_q> saw er herlig

[17:03] <@Elling> du er savna på b-f ivers

[17:03] <+|pez|> Do not want to see

[17:03] <@gm_q> jeg føler meg hjemme, sinnsro

[17:03] <Sjutten> Det er ingen på #mafian

[17:03] <Sjutten> Nok et bevis på at mafian ikke finnes.

[17:03] <hose> gå dit en gang til

01[17:04] <john_cons> Elling: her er mer om det harding-prosjektet: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve/TheMeolsPubBoat.pdf

01[17:06] <john_cons> Elling: jeg var på en viking-konferanse, i Chester, like før jul, og da snakket jeg med en arkeolog, ved national museums liverpool, og han sa det, at de trengte bare midler, så kunne han godt grave opp skipet. Og Harding var også der, på den konferansen, og vi snakket i et offentlig ordskifte, men ingen sa noe om søknad om eu-midler

[17:06] <@Elling> så du skal skaffe midler ? er det planen?

03[17:07] * Blade8 (~Ruffen@111.37.9.46.customer.cdi.no) has joined #oslo

[17:07] <gorg> fundraising

[17:08] <gorg> blir nok et lønnsomt prosjekt

01[17:08] <john_cons> Elling: ja, og også kompetanse, for britene snakker om at det skipet vil råtne, med en gang det graves opp, men man har jo skip på museer i norge, som ikke er råtne, så det ser jeg på som et ugyldig argument mer eller mindre. Og jeg har også tatt utgangspunkt i min kontakt med puben og folk i meols, så det jeg har lovt, er bare å skrive om skipet på min blogg, sånn at folk i norge, kanskje blir oppmerksom på det. også prøver jeg kanskje å få over folk fra vikingskipmuseet e.l. og bli med meg til den puben, og snakke med folka der

[17:09] <@Elling> fint tiltak. jeg ser desverre et problem

[17:09] <@Elling> men, kjør på..

01[17:09] <john_cons> Elling: ok, jeg har gått handel og kontor, økonomilinja, og der lærte vi å ikke fokusere for mye på problemer, men heller se på det som utfordringer 🙂

01[17:09] <john_cons> men men

01[17:10] <john_cons> men jeg får stikke litt nå, og skrive på blogg osv

01[17:10] <john_cons> bbl

3. januar 2011

Jeg fikk en ny e-post fra Stephen Harding, professor fra University of Nottingham, som jeg har anmeldt for trakassering

Gmail – Anmeldelse av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Anmeldelse av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

Stephen Harding

<Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 8:04 AM

To:

Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

Cc:

Per Gisle Galåen <Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no>, "emb.london@mfa.no" <emb.london@mfa.no>, "gunvor.haustveit@ra.no" <gunvor.haustveit@ra.no>, "frode.kvalo@marmuseum.no" <frode.kvalo@marmuseum.no>, "post.sondre.buskerud@politiet.no" <post.sondre.buskerud@politiet.no>

Dear Erik,

Ingi Thor Jonsson, along with Wirral and Liverpool’s cultural ambassador Mike McCartney has done a tremendous amount of work over the last 4 years in strengthening the links between Merseyside/ the North West and the Nordic countries through the annual Nordic Cultural Events (NICE) Festival, and the suggestion of you making contact was made because of the (mistaken) impression you may wish to contribute to these efforts. With respect to the Viking Conference at Chester and the splendid exhibition provided for the public to enjoy the regions great Viking Heritage this was all provided completely free of charge – as was the buffet – thanks to the tremendous efforts of the staff of the Grosvenor Museum, and all the feedback we have had – apart from your comment – has been very positive. As a Wirral man going back very many generations I am very proud of what has been achieved. The food provided was free and if you did not like it there were other places to buy food nearby. If you missed the start of the meeting and the introduction so you did not know who the speakers were this was not the fault of the organisers. Nontheless we appreciate your interest in the Vikings in our region but if you wish to communicate with us in future please refrain from using offensive language otherwise your emails will be blocked. The talks will be posted on the website as soon as we can,

Best wishes

Steve Harding

From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
Sent: 10 December 2010 19:46
To: Stephen Harding
Cc: Per Gisle Galåen; emb.london@mfa.no; gunvor.haustveit@ra.no; frode.kvalo@marmuseum.no; post.sondre.buskerud@politiet.no
Subject: Anmeldelse av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

Hi,

the Icelandic guy you said I'd get along well with is gay you b*stard.

Now I don't wan't to update you anymore.

Good luck with the Pakistani Samosa food on the Viking-conference.

I think you must be a muslim guy mobbing me.

Don't want anything more to do with you.

Erik Ribsskog

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved
To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

Hi,

yes, I didn't understand the routine, to get on the conference.

But, I haden't seen the exhipition yet, Reap and Pillage, so I just went to Chester that day, but the train was a few minutes early, so I got there a bit late.

And then I spoke with the people working there, at the museum, who got me in there, after the first break.

I understood it like that one only had to register at the museum, from your website.

But now I understand, that I should have ordered a ticket.

This wasn't clear to me, from reading your website.

But, this is just a hobby for me, with the viking-stuff on the Wirral, so I read about it like I would have read an online newspaper etc.

But next time I'll make sure to contact the hosts before I go to a conference like that.

Sorry about that misunderstanding again!

It sounds very fine about the video of the conference.

I'll update you if I hear more from the Norwegian Maritime Museum, about the Vikingship, under the pub, Railway Inn, in Meols.

Thanks again for arranging the fine viking conference!

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Thanks Erik. We are waiting to receive the video material (and permissions) on the conference and hopefully you should be able to catch up on the Introduction and the other talks you missed at the start. This will also be of benefit to others, particularly the many people who wanted to attend but were unable to get tickets.

Paa gjensyn,

Steve

From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

Sent: 10 December 2010 14:16
To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

Hi,

that is, I don't want to have this as a life-style, with football-games at the Wirral and be mate with the Icelandic guy from the Scandinavian Church, etc.

I only care about the viking-stuff on the Wirral etc.

Because I have a lot of different interests, like blog, genealogy, web-design, etc., etc.

So I haven't got that much spare-time.

So this isn't about the community-stuff, this is just about the vikingship and the conference.

Hope you include the questions from the audience, (from me and others), in the summary, since I brought up about the vikingship in Meols etc.

Hope this is alright, don't mean to be to direct/inpolite.

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

PS.

Maybe I'll go on a movie, or something, part of the Nordic festival, but I haven't got the time to go there all the time, unfortunately.

I thought about going on Max Manus, (the Norwegian was-movie), in the Scandinavian chruch last year.

And I asked a young Swedish woman, Amanda, who works at Netto, Weaverthree, if she had been at the Scandinavian Church, but she hadn't.

Also, I have an employment-case, against Bertelsmann Arvato Microsoft Scandinavian Product Activation:

http://www.scribd.com/groups/view/14830-arvato-services-ltd-s-microsoft-scandinavian-product-activation

Perhaps you know someone at the University of Nottingham, who could help me with this case, as a pro-bono-case, because this case involved/involves many Scandinavians living in Liverpool.

(My alumumni, at University of Sunderland, haven't replied).

Also, some of the employees there, had a lot to do with the Scandinavian Church, (and are included in the case), an Irish/Swede called Michael O'Shaughnessy etc., so I'm a bit vary about the Scandinavian Church, to be frank.

So I think I'll only keep this at the level it's been at, that I only go to the odd trip/event at my own choice.

Hope this is alright!

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved
To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

Hi,

ok, perhaps I'll do that!

Thank you very much for your help!

I'll update you as soon as possible, if I hear something more from the Vikingship-experts in Norway.

Thank you very much again for your reply!

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Thanks Erik

We'll put a summary up soon on http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve and may be able to include some videos of the talks – including the Intro – once we have permission from the speakers. If you like I can also put you in touch with Ingi Thor Jonsson – like yourself a resident Livepudlian – who runs the annual NICE (Nordic Cultural Events) Festival, I think you and Ingi would get on very well. There will eventually be a book based on the Conference but that won't be for some months,

Ha det bra

Steve

Vikings: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk

From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
Sent: 07 December 2010 14:53
To: Stephen Harding
Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

Hi,

thank you very much for you e-mail!

I've now sent about the Vikingship in Meols, to the Norwegian Maritime Museum, at Bygdøy, in Oslo.

They are also experts on vikingships, and the conserving of these, like Cultural Historical Musum, in Oslo are.

I'll update you more, if and when I hear back from them.

Has anyone written a summary from the viking-conference, which I could write about on my blog, since I have a travel-blog etc., where I write about my short travels from Liverpool to different Norwegian Viking places in the Wirral.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Dear all,

Firstly apologies for the bulk nature of this email again and secondly apologies to those who have had difficulty accessing the book (with its marvellous foreword by Michael Wood) through amazon.co.uk.:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Viking-DNA-Wirral-Lancashire-Project/dp/1906823464

Although because of the demand (many thanks!) the site says "Out of Stock" if you click on the "2 new" you should be able to order the book immediately and in time for Christmas. Thirdly apologies if you have no interest in the Vikings!

All best wishes

Steve, Turi and Mark

From: Harding Stephen
Sent: 02 December 2010 14:41
To: undisclosed recipients
Subject: Viking DNA book

Dear Colleagues (including many of you who took part in the genetic survey of northwest England, 2002-2007, or the Nordic Festival in 2008)

Apologies if you get this message more than once! We are writing to bring to your attention a publication we have just produced. It focuses on the first part of a genetic survey of northern England – the Wirral and West Lancashire project in the northwest – and explains the basis behind the DNA method to probe ancestry, the use of surnames to help to localize volunteers to specific regions of the country, and how genetic methods are being used in conjunction with historical, archaeological and linguistic evidence to learn about Viking ancestry. It also gives some examples from individual results and from comparing populations of people to help show what these new technologies can achieve.

Publication of the book has been supported by one of the UK Research Councils who have been supporting the study (the Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council) – and Nottingham University Press in conjunction with Countyvise Limited have very kindly produced this for us and indeed done a splendid job. We would like to stress that we as authors are not taking any Royalties or profit!

The book is introduced with a brilliant foreword by famous UK/BBC historian/broadcaster Michael Wood after which we set out to show as clearly as we can, with the help of full colour illustrations – what DNA is and how DNA methods can be used to probe both individual and population ancestry. For probing Viking ancestry it shows the importance of using DNA in conjunction with historical, linguistic, place name and archaeological evidence – again with the help of many colour illustrations, and explains how DNA can be used to probe paternal ancestry and maternal ancestry either for individuals or for populations of people, explaining also some of the sometimes complicated jargon that scientists use.

A major problem in studying population ancestry is the large population movements that have occurred since the Industrial Revolution. However there is a strong link between surnames and paternal DNA ancestry and the book explains how information such as Henry VIII’s tax rolls, , and even criminal records (including someone accused of killing a dog in 1348 …. found not guilty!) can be used to help establish the volunteer base for specific regions of northern England. Using these methods significant Scandinavian ancestry (up to 50% of the mixture of DNA from the old populations) has been shown for Wirral and West Lancashire. One youngster from Wirral was so impressed with the results for her father she wrote a School project “My Viking Dad and his Viking Dog”! The book finishes with a look towards the current testing of other regions of Northern England and the research currently being undertaken with colleagues in Norway to study the genetic profile of Scandinavia in the Viking Age.

This broadcast on BBC Radio 4 gives some more information about the survey: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/making_history/making_history_20080520.shtml (after the first minute or so)

So we think it will be a useful read for anyone interested in DNA ancestry and, after seeing what we have done in the North West, give people from other regions an idea of how their own past could be researched. The book is 150 pages long and extensively illustrated in colour. The book has just become available in all good bookshops in the north West or from Amazon.co.uk *and would make an excellent Christmas present.

Steve Harding, Mark Jobling and Turi King

Stephen Harding DSc(Oxon)
Professor of Applied Biochemistry
NCMH Laboratory,
University of Nottingham
Sutton Bonington
LE12 5RD, UK

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve
steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk
*in case of difficulty contact us on this email address, and we will put you in contact with Nottingham University Press or Countyvise

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11. desember 2010

Jeg sendte en anmeldelse av professor Stephen Harding, ved University of Nottingham, til politiet i Drammen, for trakassering

Gmail – Anmeldelse av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Anmeldelse av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 7:46 PM

To:

Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

Cc:

Per Gisle Galåen <Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no>, emb.london@mfa.no, gunvor.haustveit@ra.no, frode.kvalo@marmuseum.no, post.sondre.buskerud@politiet.no

Hi,

the Icelandic guy you said I'd get along well with is gay you b*stard.

Now I don't wan't to update you anymore.

Good luck with the Pakistani Samosa food on the Viking-conference.

I think you must be a muslim guy mobbing me.

Don't want anything more to do with you.

Erik Ribsskog

———- Forwarded message ———-

From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

Hi,

yes, I didn't understand the routine, to get on the conference.

But, I haden't seen the exhipition yet, Reap and Pillage, so I just went to Chester that day, but the train was a few minutes early, so I got there a bit late.

And then I spoke with the people working there, at the museum, who got me in there, after the first break.

I understood it like that one only had to register at the museum, from your website.

But now I understand, that I should have ordered a ticket.

This wasn't clear to me, from reading your website.

But, this is just a hobby for me, with the viking-stuff on the Wirral, so I read about it like I would have read an online newspaper etc.

But next time I'll make sure to contact the hosts before I go to a conference like that.

Sorry about that misunderstanding again!

It sounds very fine about the video of the conference.

I'll update you if I hear more from the Norwegian Maritime Museum, about the Vikingship, under the pub, Railway Inn, in Meols.

Thanks again for arranging the fine viking conference!

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Thanks Erik. We are waiting to receive the video material (and

permissions) on the conference and hopefully you should be able to

catch up on the Introduction and the other talks you missed at the start.

This will also be of benefit to others, particularly the many people

who wanted to attend but were unable to get tickets.

Paa gjensyn,

Steve

From: Erik Ribsskog

[mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

Sent: 10 December 2010

14:16
To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: Fwd:

Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now

resolved

Hi,

that is, I don't want to have this as a life-style, with football-games

at the Wirral and be mate with the Icelandic guy from the Scandinavian Church,

etc.

I only care about the viking-stuff on the Wirral etc.

Because I have a lot of different interests, like blog, genealogy,

web-design, etc., etc.

So I haven't got that much spare-time.

So this isn't about the community-stuff, this is just about the

vikingship and the conference.

Hope you include the questions from the audience, (from me and

others), in the summary, since I brought up about the vikingship in Meols

etc.

Hope this is alright, don't mean to be to direct/inpolite.

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

PS.

Maybe I'll go on a movie, or something, part of the Nordic festival,

but I haven't got the time to go there all the time, unfortunately.

I thought about going on Max Manus, (the Norwegian was-movie), in the

Scandinavian chruch last year.

And I asked a young Swedish woman, Amanda, who works at Netto,

Weaverthree, if she had been at the Scandinavian Church, but she hadn't.

Also, I have an employment-case, against Bertelsmann Arvato Microsoft

Scandinavian Product Activation:

http://www.scribd.com/groups/view/14830-arvato-services-ltd-s-microsoft-scandinavian-product-activation

Perhaps

you know someone at the University of Nottingham, who could help me with this

case, as a pro-bono-case, because this case involved/involves many

Scandinavians living in Liverpool.

(My alumumni, at University of Sunderland, haven't replied).

Also, some of the employees there, had a lot to do with the Scandinavian

Church, (and are included in the case), an Irish/Swede called Michael

O'Shaughnessy etc., so I'm a bit vary about the Scandinavian Church, to be

frank.

So I think I'll only keep this at the level it's been at, that I only

go to the odd trip/event at my own choice.

Hope this is alright!

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

Date:

Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for

problems with Amazon link, now resolved
To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

Hi,

ok, perhaps I'll do that!

Thank you very much for your help!

I'll update you as soon as possible, if I hear something more from the

Vikingship-experts in Norway.

Thank you very much again for your reply!

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Thanks

Erik

We'll put a summary up

soon on http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve and may be able to

include some videos of the talks – including the Intro – once we

have permission from the speakers. If you like I can also put you in touch with Ingi

Thor Jonsson – like yourself a resident Livepudlian – who runs the

annual NICE (Nordic Cultural Events) Festival, I think you and Ingi

would get on very well. There will eventually be a book based

on the Conference but that won't be for some

months,

Ha det

bra

Steve

Vikings: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk

From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

Sent: 07 December 2010 14:53
To: Stephen

Harding
Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with

Amazon link, now resolved

Hi,

thank you very much for you e-mail!

I've now sent about the Vikingship in Meols, to the Norwegian

Maritime Museum, at Bygdøy, in Oslo.

They are also experts on vikingships, and the conserving of

these, like Cultural Historical Musum, in Oslo are.

I'll update you more, if and when I hear back from them.

Has anyone written a summary from the viking-conference, which I

could write about on my blog, since I have a travel-blog etc., where I

write about my short travels from Liverpool to different Norwegian Viking

places in the Wirral.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Harding

<Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Dear all,

Firstly apologies for the bulk nature of

this email again and secondly apologies to those who have had difficulty

accessing the book (with its marvellous foreword by Michael Wood)

through amazon.co.uk.:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Viking-DNA-Wirral-Lancashire-Project/dp/1906823464

Although because of the demand (many

thanks!) the site says "Out of Stock" if you click on the "2 new" you

should be able to order the book immediately and in time for

Christmas. Thirdly apologies if you have no interest in

the Vikings!

All best wishes

Steve, Turi and Mark

From: Harding

Stephen
Sent: 02 December 2010 14:41
To: undisclosed

recipients
Subject: Viking DNA book

Dear Colleagues (including many of you who took

part in the genetic survey of northwest England, 2002-2007, or the

Nordic Festival in 2008)

Apologies if you get this message more than once!

We are writing to bring to your attention a publication we have

just produced. It focuses on the first part

of a genetic survey of northern

England – the Wirral and West Lancashire project

in the northwest – and explains the

basis behind the DNA method to probe ancestry, the use of

surnames to help to localize volunteers to specific regions of the

country, and how genetic methods are being used in conjunction with

historical, archaeological and linguistic evidence to learn about Viking

ancestry. It also gives some examples from

individual results and from comparing populations of people to help show

what these new technologies can achieve.

Publication of the book has been supported by one of the UK

Research Councils who have been supporting the study (the Biotechnology

and Biological Sciences Research Council) – and Nottingham University

Press in conjunction with Countyvise Limited have very kindly produced

this for us and indeed done a splendid job. We

would like to stress that we as authors are not taking any Royalties or

profit!

The book is introduced with a

brilliant foreword by famous UK/BBC historian/broadcaster

Michael Wood after which we set out to show as clearly as

we can, with the help of full colour illustrations – what DNA is and how

DNA methods can be used to probe both individual and population

ancestry. For probing Viking ancestry it shows the

importance of using DNA in conjunction with historical, linguistic,

place name and archaeological evidence – again with the help of

many colour illustrations, and explains how DNA can be used to

probe paternal ancestry and maternal ancestry either for individuals or

for populations of people, explaining also some of the sometimes

complicated jargon that scientists use.

A major problem in studying

population ancestry is the large population movements that have occurred

since the Industrial Revolution. However there is a

strong link between surnames and paternal DNA ancestry and the book

explains how information such as Henry VIII’s tax rolls, , and even

criminal records (including someone accused of killing a dog in 1348 ….

found not guilty!) can be used to help establish the volunteer base for

specific regions of northern England. Using these

methods significant Scandinavian ancestry (up to 50% of the mixture of

DNA from the old populations) has been shown for Wirral and West

Lancashire. One youngster from Wirral was so

impressed with the results for her father she wrote a

School project “My Viking Dad and his Viking Dog”! The book finishes

with a look towards the current testing of other regions of Northern

England and the research currently being undertaken with

colleagues in Norway to study the genetic profile of Scandinavia in

the Viking Age.

This broadcast on BBC

Radio 4 gives some more information about the survey: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/making_history/making_history_20080520.shtml (after

the first minute or so)

So we think it will be a useful read for anyone interested

in DNA ancestry and, after seeing what we have done in the North West,

give people from other regions an idea of how their own past could be

researched. The book is 150 pages long and

extensively illustrated in colour. The

book has just become available in all good

bookshops in the north West or from Amazon.co.uk *and would make an excellent Christmas

present.

Steve Harding, Mark Jobling and Turi King

Stephen Harding DSc(Oxon)
Professor of Applied

Biochemistry
NCMH Laboratory,
University of Nottingham
Sutton

Bonington
LE12 5RD,

UK

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/–sczsteve

steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk
*in case of difficulty contact us on this email

address, and we will put you in contact with Nottingham University Press

or Countyvise

This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee

and may contain confidential information. If you have received this

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message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the

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PS.

Her kan man se hvorfor jeg skriver at han islendingen, som han profesoren fra Nottingham, ville ha meg til å bli kjent med, er homo. (Pink er en homoklubb, i Liverpool):

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=801967925

10. desember 2010

Jeg sendte en ny e-post om vikingene på the Wirral

Gmail – Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:17 PM

To:

Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

Hi,

yes, I didn't understand the routine, to get on the conference.

But, I haden't seen the exhipition yet, Reap and Pillage, so I just went to Chester that day, but the train was a few minutes early, so I got there a bit late.

And then I spoke with the people working there, at the museum, who got me in there, after the first break.

I understood it like that one only had to register at the museum, from your website.

But now I understand, that I should have ordered a ticket.

This wasn't clear to me, from reading your website.

But, this is just a hobby for me, with the viking-stuff on the Wirral, so I read about it like I would have read an online newspaper etc.

But next time I'll make sure to contact the hosts before I go to a conference like that.

Sorry about that misunderstanding again!

It sounds very fine about the video of the conference.

I'll update you if I hear more from the Norwegian Maritime Museum, about the Vikingship, under the pub, Railway Inn, in Meols.

Thanks again for arranging the fine viking conference!

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Thanks Erik. We are waiting to receive the video material (and

permissions) on the conference and hopefully you should be able to

catch up on the Introduction and the other talks you missed at the start.

This will also be of benefit to others, particularly the many people

who wanted to attend but were unable to get tickets.

Paa gjensyn,

Steve

From: Erik Ribsskog

[mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

Sent: 10 December 2010

14:16
To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: Fwd:

Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now

resolved

Hi,

that is, I don't want to have this as a life-style, with football-games

at the Wirral and be mate with the Icelandic guy from the Scandinavian Church,

etc.

I only care about the viking-stuff on the Wirral etc.

Because I have a lot of different interests, like blog, genealogy,

web-design, etc., etc.

So I haven't got that much spare-time.

So this isn't about the community-stuff, this is just about the

vikingship and the conference.

Hope you include the questions from the audience, (from me and

others), in the summary, since I brought up about the vikingship in Meols

etc.

Hope this is alright, don't mean to be to direct/inpolite.

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

PS.

Maybe I'll go on a movie, or something, part of the Nordic festival,

but I haven't got the time to go there all the time, unfortunately.

I thought about going on Max Manus, (the Norwegian was-movie), in the

Scandinavian chruch last year.

And I asked a young Swedish woman, Amanda, who works at Netto,

Weaverthree, if she had been at the Scandinavian Church, but she hadn't.

Also, I have an employment-case, against Bertelsmann Arvato Microsoft

Scandinavian Product Activation:

http://www.scribd.com/groups/view/14830-arvato-services-ltd-s-microsoft-scandinavian-product-activation

Perhaps

you know someone at the University of Nottingham, who could help me with this

case, as a pro-bono-case, because this case involved/involves many

Scandinavians living in Liverpool.

(My alumumni, at University of Sunderland, haven't replied).

Also, some of the employees there, had a lot to do with the Scandinavian

Church, (and are included in the case), an Irish/Swede called Michael

O'Shaughnessy etc., so I'm a bit vary about the Scandinavian Church, to be

frank.

So I think I'll only keep this at the level it's been at, that I only

go to the odd trip/event at my own choice.

Hope this is alright!

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

Date:

Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for

problems with Amazon link, now resolved
To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

Hi,

ok, perhaps I'll do that!

Thank you very much for your help!

I'll update you as soon as possible, if I hear something more from the

Vikingship-experts in Norway.

Thank you very much again for your reply!

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Thanks

Erik

We'll put a summary up

soon on http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve and may be able to

include some videos of the talks – including the Intro – once we

have permission from the speakers. If you like I can also put you in touch with Ingi

Thor Jonsson – like yourself a resident Livepudlian – who runs the

annual NICE (Nordic Cultural Events) Festival, I think you and Ingi

would get on very well. There will eventually be a book based

on the Conference but that won't be for some

months,

Ha det

bra

Steve

Vikings: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk

From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

Sent: 07 December 2010 14:53
To: Stephen

Harding
Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with

Amazon link, now resolved

Hi,

thank you very much for you e-mail!

I've now sent about the Vikingship in Meols, to the Norwegian

Maritime Museum, at Bygdøy, in Oslo.

They are also experts on vikingships, and the conserving of

these, like Cultural Historical Musum, in Oslo are.

I'll update you more, if and when I hear back from them.

Has anyone written a summary from the viking-conference, which I

could write about on my blog, since I have a travel-blog etc., where I

write about my short travels from Liverpool to different Norwegian Viking

places in the Wirral.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Harding

<Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Dear all,

Firstly apologies for the bulk nature of

this email again and secondly apologies to those who have had difficulty

accessing the book (with its marvellous foreword by Michael Wood)

through amazon.co.uk.:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Viking-DNA-Wirral-Lancashire-Project/dp/1906823464

Although because of the demand (many

thanks!) the site says "Out of Stock" if you click on the "2 new" you

should be able to order the book immediately and in time for

Christmas. Thirdly apologies if you have no interest in

the Vikings!

All best wishes

Steve, Turi and Mark

From: Harding

Stephen
Sent: 02 December 2010 14:41
To: undisclosed

recipients
Subject: Viking DNA book

Dear Colleagues (including many of you who took

part in the genetic survey of northwest England, 2002-2007, or the

Nordic Festival in 2008)

Apologies if you get this message more than once!

We are writing to bring to your attention a publication we have

just produced. It focuses on the first part

of a genetic survey of northern

England – the Wirral and West Lancashire project

in the northwest – and explains the

basis behind the DNA method to probe ancestry, the use of

surnames to help to localize volunteers to specific regions of the

country, and how genetic methods are being used in conjunction with

historical, archaeological and linguistic evidence to learn about Viking

ancestry. It also gives some examples from

individual results and from comparing populations of people to help show

what these new technologies can achieve.

Publication of the book has been supported by one of the UK

Research Councils who have been supporting the study (the Biotechnology

and Biological Sciences Research Council) – and Nottingham University

Press in conjunction with Countyvise Limited have very kindly produced

this for us and indeed done a splendid job. We

would like to stress that we as authors are not taking any Royalties or

profit!

The book is introduced with a

brilliant foreword by famous UK/BBC historian/broadcaster

Michael Wood after which we set out to show as clearly as

we can, with the help of full colour illustrations – what DNA is and how

DNA methods can be used to probe both individual and population

ancestry. For probing Viking ancestry it shows the

importance of using DNA in conjunction with historical, linguistic,

place name and archaeological evidence – again with the help of

many colour illustrations, and explains how DNA can be used to

probe paternal ancestry and maternal ancestry either for individuals or

for populations of people, explaining also some of the sometimes

complicated jargon that scientists use.

A major problem in studying

population ancestry is the large population movements that have occurred

since the Industrial Revolution. However there is a

strong link between surnames and paternal DNA ancestry and the book

explains how information such as Henry VIII’s tax rolls, , and even

criminal records (including someone accused of killing a dog in 1348 ….

found not guilty!) can be used to help establish the volunteer base for

specific regions of northern England. Using these

methods significant Scandinavian ancestry (up to 50% of the mixture of

DNA from the old populations) has been shown for Wirral and West

Lancashire. One youngster from Wirral was so

impressed with the results for her father she wrote a

School project “My Viking Dad and his Viking Dog”! The book finishes

with a look towards the current testing of other regions of Northern

England and the research currently being undertaken with

colleagues in Norway to study the genetic profile of Scandinavia in

the Viking Age.

This broadcast on BBC

Radio 4 gives some more information about the survey: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/making_history/making_history_20080520.shtml (after

the first minute or so)

So we think it will be a useful read for anyone interested

in DNA ancestry and, after seeing what we have done in the North West,

give people from other regions an idea of how their own past could be

researched. The book is 150 pages long and

extensively illustrated in colour. The

book has just become available in all good

bookshops in the north West or from Amazon.co.uk *and would make an excellent Christmas

present.

Steve Harding, Mark Jobling and Turi King

Stephen Harding DSc(Oxon)
Professor of Applied

Biochemistry
NCMH Laboratory,
University of Nottingham
Sutton

Bonington
LE12 5RD,

UK

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/–sczsteve

steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk
*in case of difficulty contact us on this email

address, and we will put you in contact with Nottingham University Press

or Countyvise

This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee

and may contain confidential information. If you have received this

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Mer om vikingskipet på the Wirral etc.

Gmail – Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:15 PM

To:

Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk

Hi,

that is, I don't want to have this as a life-style, with football-games at the Wirral and be mate with the Icelandic guy from the Scandinavian Church, etc.

I only care about the viking-stuff on the Wirral etc.

Because I have a lot of different interests, like blog, genealogy, web-design, etc., etc.

So I haven't got that much spare-time.

So this isn't about the community-stuff, this is just about the vikingship and the conference.

Hope you include the questions from the audience, (from me and others), in the summary, since I brought up about the vikingship in Meols etc.

Hope this is alright, don't mean to be to direct/inpolite.

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

PS.

Maybe I'll go on a movie, or something, part of the Nordic festival, but I haven't got the time to go there all the time, unfortunately.

I thought about going on Max Manus, (the Norwegian was-movie), in the Scandinavian chruch last year.

And I asked a young Swedish woman, Amanda, who works at Netto, Weaverthree, if she had been at the Scandinavian Church, but she hadn't.

Also, I have an employment-case, against Bertelsmann Arvato Microsoft Scandinavian Product Activation:

http://www.scribd.com/groups/view/14830-arvato-services-ltd-s-microsoft-scandinavian-product-activation

Perhaps you know someone at the University of Nottingham, who could help me with this case, as a pro-bono-case, because this case involved/involves many Scandinavians living in Liverpool.

(My alumumni, at University of Sunderland, haven't replied).

Also, some of the employees there, had a lot to do with the Scandinavian Church, (and are included in the case), an Irish/Swede called Michael O'Shaughnessy etc., so I'm a bit vary about the Scandinavian Church, to be frank.

So I think I'll only keep this at the level it's been at, that I only go to the odd trip/event at my own choice.

Hope this is alright!

———- Forwarded message ———-

From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

Hi,

ok, perhaps I'll do that!

Thank you very much for your help!

I'll update you as soon as possible, if I hear something more from the Vikingship-experts in Norway.

Thank you very much again for your reply!

Best regards,

Erik Ribsskog

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Thanks Erik

We'll put a summary up soon on http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

and may be able to include some videos of the talks – including the Intro

– once we have permission from the speakers. If you like I can

also put you in touch with Ingi Thor Jonsson – like yourself a

resident Livepudlian – who runs the annual NICE (Nordic Cultural Events)

Festival, I think you and Ingi would get on very well. There will

eventually be a book based on the Conference but that won't be for some

months,

Ha det bra

Steve

Vikings: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk

From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

Sent: 07 December 2010 14:53
To: Stephen

Harding
Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with

Amazon link, now resolved

Hi,

thank you very much for you e-mail!

I've now sent about the Vikingship in Meols, to the Norwegian

Maritime Museum, at Bygdøy, in Oslo.

They are also experts on vikingships, and the conserving of these,

like Cultural Historical Musum, in Oslo are.

I'll update you more, if and when I hear back from them.

Has anyone written a summary from the viking-conference, which I

could write about on my blog, since I have a travel-blog etc., where I write

about my short travels from Liverpool to different Norwegian Viking places in

the Wirral.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

wrote:

Dear all,

Firstly apologies for the bulk nature of this

email again and secondly apologies to those who have had difficulty

accessing the book (with its marvellous foreword by Michael Wood) through amazon.co.uk.:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Viking-DNA-Wirral-Lancashire-Project/dp/1906823464

Although because of the demand (many thanks!)

the site says "Out of Stock" if you click on the "2 new" you should be able

to order the book immediately and in time for Christmas. Thirdly

apologies if you have no interest in the Vikings!

All best wishes

Steve, Turi and Mark

From: Harding

Stephen
Sent: 02 December 2010 14:41
To: undisclosed

recipients
Subject: Viking DNA book

Dear Colleagues (including many of you who took part

in the genetic survey of northwest England, 2002-2007, or the Nordic

Festival in 2008)

Apologies if you get this message more than once!

We are writing to bring to your attention a publication we have just

produced. It focuses on the first part of a

genetic survey of northern England – the Wirral and

West Lancashire project in the northwest – and

explains the basis behind the DNA method to probe

ancestry, the use of surnames to help to localize volunteers to specific

regions of the country, and how genetic methods are being used in

conjunction with historical, archaeological and linguistic evidence to learn

about Viking ancestry. It also gives some examples

from individual results and from comparing populations of people to help

show what these new technologies can achieve.

Publication of the book has been supported by one of the UK

Research Councils who have been supporting the study (the Biotechnology and

Biological Sciences Research Council) – and Nottingham University Press in

conjunction with Countyvise Limited have very kindly produced this for us

and indeed done a splendid job. We would like to

stress that we as authors are not taking any Royalties or

profit!

The book is introduced with a

brilliant foreword by famous UK/BBC historian/broadcaster

Michael Wood after which we set out to show as clearly as we

can, with the help of full colour illustrations – what DNA is and how DNA

methods can be used to probe both individual and population

ancestry. For probing Viking ancestry it shows the

importance of using DNA in conjunction with historical, linguistic, place

name and archaeological evidence – again with the help of many colour

illustrations, and explains how DNA can be used to probe paternal

ancestry and maternal ancestry either for individuals or for populations of

people, explaining also some of the sometimes complicated jargon that

scientists use.

A major problem in studying

population ancestry is the large population movements that have occurred

since the Industrial Revolution. However there is a

strong link between surnames and paternal DNA ancestry and the book explains

how information such as Henry VIII’s tax rolls, , and even criminal records

(including someone accused of killing a dog in 1348 …. found not guilty!)

can be used to help establish the volunteer base for specific regions of

northern England. Using these methods significant

Scandinavian ancestry (up to 50% of the mixture of DNA from the old

populations) has been shown for Wirral and West Lancashire.

One youngster from Wirral was so impressed with the

results for her father she wrote a School project “My

Viking Dad and his Viking Dog”! The book finishes with a look towards the

current testing of other regions of Northern England and the research

currently being undertaken with colleagues in Norway to study the genetic

profile of Scandinavia in the Viking Age.

This broadcast on BBC Radio

4 gives some more information about the survey: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/making_history/making_history_20080520.shtml (after

the first minute or so)

So we think it will be a useful read for anyone interested in

DNA ancestry and, after seeing what we have done in the North West, give

people from other regions an idea of how their own past could be

researched. The book is 150 pages long and

extensively illustrated in colour. The

book has just become available in all good bookshops

in the north West or from Amazon.co.uk *and would make an

excellent Christmas present.

Steve Harding, Mark Jobling and Turi King

Stephen Harding DSc(Oxon)
Professor of Applied

Biochemistry
NCMH Laboratory,
University of Nottingham
Sutton

Bonington
LE12 5RD,

UK

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/–sczsteve

steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk
*in case of difficulty contact us on this email address, and we will

put you in contact with Nottingham University Press or

Countyvise

This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and

may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in

error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not

use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any

attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do

not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham.

This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an

attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your

computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email

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10. desember 2010

Jeg sendte en ny e-post til Norsk Maritimt Museum

Gmail – Oppdatering vikingskip i England/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Oppdatering vikingskip i England/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:22 PM

To:

Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no

Cc:

frode.kvalo@marmuseum.no

Bcc:

Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

Date: Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved
To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

Hi,

thank you very much for you e-mail!

I've now sent about the Vikingship in Meols, to the Norwegian Maritime Museum, at Bygdøy, in Oslo.

They are also experts on vikingships, and the conserving of these, like Cultural Historical Musum, in Oslo are.

I'll update you more, if and when I hear back from them.

Has anyone written a summary from the viking-conference, which I could write about on my blog, since I have a travel-blog etc., where I write about my short travels from Liverpool to different Norwegian Viking places in the Wirral.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Dear all,

Firstly apologies for the bulk nature of this email again and secondly apologies to those who have had difficulty accessing the book (with its marvellous foreword by Michael Wood) through amazon.co.uk.:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Viking-DNA-Wirral-Lancashire-Project/dp/1906823464

Although because of the demand (many thanks!) the site says "Out of Stock" if you click on the "2 new" you should be able to order the book immediately and in time for Christmas. Thirdly apologies if you have no interest in

the Vikings!

All best wishes

Steve, Turi and Mark

From: Harding Stephen

Sent: 02 December 2010 14:41

To: undisclosed recipients

Subject: Viking DNA book

Dear Colleagues (including many of you who took part in the genetic survey of northwest England, 2002-2007, or the Nordic Festival in 2008)

Apologies if you get this message more than once!

We are writing to bring to your attention a publication we have just produced. It

focuses on the first part of a genetic

survey of northern England – the Wirral and West Lancashire project in the

northwest – and explains the basis behind the DNA method

to probe ancestry, the use of surnames to help to localize volunteers to specific regions of the country, and how genetic methods are being used in conjunction with historical, archaeological and linguistic evidence to learn about Viking ancestry.

It also gives some examples from individual results and from comparing populations of people to help show what these new technologies can achieve.

Publication of the book has been supported by one of the UK Research Councils who have been supporting the study (the Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council)

– and Nottingham University Press in conjunction with Countyvise Limited have very kindly produced this for us and indeed done a splendid job.

We would like to stress that we as authors are not taking any Royalties or profit!

The book is introduced with a brilliant foreword by famous UK/BBC historian/broadcaster

Michael Wood after which we set out to show as clearly as we can, with the help of full colour illustrations – what DNA is and how DNA methods can be used to probe both individual and population ancestry.

For probing Viking ancestry it shows the importance of using DNA in conjunction with historical, linguistic, place name and archaeological evidence – again with the help of many colour illustrations, and explains

how DNA can be used to probe paternal ancestry and maternal ancestry either for individuals or for populations of people, explaining also some of the sometimes complicated jargon that scientists use.

A major problem in studying population ancestry is the large population movements that have occurred since the Industrial Revolution.

However there is a strong link between surnames and paternal DNA ancestry and the book explains how information such as Henry VIII’s tax rolls, , and even criminal records (including someone accused of killing a dog in 1348 …. found not guilty!) can

be used to help establish the volunteer base for specific regions of northern England.

Using these methods significant Scandinavian ancestry (up to 50% of the mixture of DNA from the old populations) has been shown for Wirral and West Lancashire.

One youngster from Wirral was so impressed with the results for her father she wrote a School project “My Viking Dad and his Viking Dog”! The book finishes with a look towards the current testing of other

regions of Northern England and the research currently being undertaken with colleagues in Norway to study the genetic profile of Scandinavia in the Viking Age.

This broadcast on BBC Radio 4 gives some more information about the survey:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/making_history/making_history_20080520.shtml (after the first minute or so)

So we think it will be a useful read for anyone interested in DNA ancestry and, after seeing what we have done in the North West, give people from other regions an idea

of how their own past could be researched. The book is 150 pages long and extensively illustrated in colour.

The book has just become available in all good bookshops in the north West or from

Amazon.co.uk *and

would make an excellent Christmas present.

Steve Harding, Mark Jobling and Turi King

Stephen Harding DSc(Oxon)

Professor of Applied Biochemistry

NCMH Laboratory,

University of Nottingham

Sutton Bonington

LE12 5RD, UK

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/–sczsteve

steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk

*in case of difficulty contact us on this email address, and we will put you in contact with Nottingham University Press or Countyvise

This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may

contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error,

please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use,

copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment.

Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily

reflect the views of the University of Nottingham.

This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment

may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system:

you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the

University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation.

7. desember 2010

Jeg sendte en ny e-post angående vikingskipet i Meols

Gmail – Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

Erik Ribsskog

<eribsskog@gmail.com>

Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:52 PM

To:

Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

Hi,

thank you very much for you e-mail!

I've now sent about the Vikingship in Meols, to the Norwegian Maritime Museum, at Bygdøy, in Oslo.

They are also experts on vikingships, and the conserving of these, like Cultural Historical Musum, in Oslo are.

I'll update you more, if and when I hear back from them.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Yours sincerely,

Erik Ribsskog

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Dear all,

Firstly apologies for the bulk nature of this email again and secondly apologies to those who have had difficulty accessing the book (with its marvellous foreword by Michael Wood) through amazon.co.uk.:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Viking-DNA-Wirral-Lancashire-Project/dp/1906823464

Although because of the demand (many thanks!) the site says "Out of Stock" if you click on the "2 new" you should be able to order the book immediately and in time for Christmas. Thirdly apologies if you have no interest in

the Vikings!

All best wishes

Steve, Turi and Mark

From: Harding Stephen

Sent: 02 December 2010 14:41

To: undisclosed recipients

Subject: Viking DNA book

Dear Colleagues (including many of you who took part in the genetic survey of northwest England, 2002-2007, or the Nordic Festival in 2008)

Apologies if you get this message more than once!

We are writing to bring to your attention a publication we have just produced. It

focuses on the first part of a genetic

survey of northern England – the Wirral and West Lancashire project in the

northwest – and explains the basis behind the DNA method

to probe ancestry, the use of surnames to help to localize volunteers to specific regions of the country, and how genetic methods are being used in conjunction with historical, archaeological and linguistic evidence to learn about Viking ancestry.

It also gives some examples from individual results and from comparing populations of people to help show what these new technologies can achieve.

Publication of the book has been supported by one of the UK Research Councils who have been supporting the study (the Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council)

– and Nottingham University Press in conjunction with Countyvise Limited have very kindly produced this for us and indeed done a splendid job.

We would like to stress that we as authors are not taking any Royalties or profit!

The book is introduced with a brilliant foreword by famous UK/BBC historian/broadcaster

Michael Wood after which we set out to show as clearly as we can, with the help of full colour illustrations – what DNA is and how DNA methods can be used to probe both individual and population ancestry.

For probing Viking ancestry it shows the importance of using DNA in conjunction with historical, linguistic, place name and archaeological evidence – again with the help of many colour illustrations, and explains

how DNA can be used to probe paternal ancestry and maternal ancestry either for individuals or for populations of people, explaining also some of the sometimes complicated jargon that scientists use.

A major problem in studying population ancestry is the large population movements that have occurred since the Industrial Revolution.

However there is a strong link between surnames and paternal DNA ancestry and the book explains how information such as Henry VIII’s tax rolls, , and even criminal records (including someone accused of killing a dog in 1348 …. found not guilty!) can

be used to help establish the volunteer base for specific regions of northern England.

Using these methods significant Scandinavian ancestry (up to 50% of the mixture of DNA from the old populations) has been shown for Wirral and West Lancashire.

One youngster from Wirral was so impressed with the results for her father she wrote a School project “My Viking Dad and his Viking Dog”! The book finishes with a look towards the current testing of other

regions of Northern England and the research currently being undertaken with colleagues in Norway to study the genetic profile of Scandinavia in the Viking Age.

This broadcast on BBC Radio 4 gives some more information about the survey:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/making_history/making_history_20080520.shtml (after the first minute or so)

So we think it will be a useful read for anyone interested in DNA ancestry and, after seeing what we have done in the North West, give people from other regions an idea

of how their own past could be researched. The book is 150 pages long and extensively illustrated in colour.

The book has just become available in all good bookshops in the north West or from

Amazon.co.uk *and

would make an excellent Christmas present.

Steve Harding, Mark Jobling and Turi King

Stephen Harding DSc(Oxon)

Professor of Applied Biochemistry

NCMH Laboratory,

University of Nottingham

Sutton Bonington

LE12 5RD, UK

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/–sczsteve

steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk

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