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  • Jeg fikk en e-post angående vikingskipet på the Wirral, fra Norsk Maritimt Museum







    Gmail – Anmeldelse av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved







    Gmail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Anmeldelse av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved





    Frode Kvalø

    <Frode.Kvalo@marmuseum.no>





    Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:56 AM





    To:

    Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>


    Cc:

    Per Gisle Galåen <Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no>, "emb.london@mfa.no" <emb.london@mfa.no>, "gunvor.haustveit@ra.no" <gunvor.haustveit@ra.no>, "post.sondre.buskerud@politiet.no" <post.sondre.buskerud@politiet.no>, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>




    To Erik Ribsskog and associates

    I have involuntarily been drawn into in this unpleasant e-mail correspondence

    and I have no interested in being a part of it!

    If there is a ship of Nordic design dating to the Viking period

    in a Pub somewhere in England that is a fascinating story. However, I’m content

    that our British colleges have the knowledge and skills to deal with such

    finds.

    This is not something the Norwegian Maritime Museum will prioritize

    to get involved in!

    Please, do not contact me concerning this matter again!

    Frode Kvalø

    Head of Archaeology

    Norwegian Maritime Museum

    Fra: Stephen Harding

    [mailto:Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk]

    Sendt: 11. desember 2010 09:05

    Til: Erik Ribsskog; Stephen Harding

    Kopi: Per Gisle Galåen; emb.london@mfa.no; gunvor.haustveit@ra.no; Frode

    Kvalø; post.sondre.buskerud@politiet.no

    Emne: RE: Anmeldelse av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies

    for problems with Amazon link, now resolved


    Dear Erik,

    Ingi Thor Jonsson, along with Wirral and Liverpool’s

    cultural ambassador Mike McCartney has done a tremendous amount of work over

    the last 4 years in strengthening the links between Merseyside/ the North West

    and the Nordic countries through the annual Nordic Cultural Events (NICE)

    Festival, and the suggestion of you making contact was made because of the

    (mistaken) impression you may wish to contribute to these efforts. With

    respect to the Viking Conference at Chester and the splendid exhibition provided

    for the public to enjoy the regions great Viking Heritage this was all

    provided completely free of charge
    – as was the buffet – thanks

    to the tremendous efforts of the staff of the Grosvenor Museum, and all the

    feedback we have had – apart from your comment – has been very

    positive. As a Wirral man going back very many generations I am very proud of

    what has been achieved. The food provided was free and if you did not

    like it there were other places to buy food nearby. If you missed the

    start of the meeting and the introduction so you did not know who the speakers

    were this was not the fault of the organisers. Nontheless we appreciate

    your interest in the Vikings in our region but if you wish to communicate with

    us in future please refrain from using offensive language otherwise your emails

    will be blocked. The talks will be posted on the website as soon as we

    can,

    Best wishes

    Steve Harding

    From: Erik

    Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 10 December 2010 19:46

    To: Stephen Harding

    Cc: Per Gisle Galåen; emb.london@mfa.no; gunvor.haustveit@ra.no;

    frode.kvalo@marmuseum.no; post.sondre.buskerud@politiet.no

    Subject: Anmeldelse av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for

    problems with Amazon link, now resolved

    Hi,

    the Icelandic

    guy you said I'd get along well with is gay you b*stard.

    Now I don't

    wan't to update you anymore.

    Good luck with

    the Pakistani Samosa food on the Viking-conference.

    I think you must

    be a muslim guy mobbing me.

    Don't want anything more to do with you.

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———-

    Forwarded message ———-

    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:17 PM

    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now

    resolved

    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    yes, I didn't

    understand the routine, to get on the conference.

    But, I haden't seen the exhipition yet, Reap and Pillage, so I just went to

    Chester that day, but the train was a few minutes early, so I got there a bit

    late.

    And then I spoke with the people

    working there, at the museum, who got me in there, after the first break.

    I understood it

    like that one only had to register at the museum, from your website.

    But now I understand, that I should have ordered a ticket.

    This wasn't clear to me, from reading your website.

    But, this is

    just a hobby for me, with the viking-stuff on the Wirral, so I read about it

    like I would have read an online newspaper etc.

    But next time I'll make sure to contact the hosts before I go to a conference

    like that.

    Sorry about that misunderstanding again!

    It sounds very

    fine about the video of the conference.

    I'll update you if I hear more from the Norwegian Maritime Museum, about the

    Vikingship, under the pub, Railway Inn, in Meols.

    Thanks again for

    arranging the fine viking conference!

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 10,

    2010 at 3:03 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    wrote:

    Thanks Erik. We are

    waiting to receive the video material (and permissions) on the conference

    and hopefully you should be able to catch up on the Introduction and the

    other talks you missed at the start. This will also be of benefit to

    others, particularly the many people who wanted to attend but were

    unable to get tickets.

    Paa gjensyn,

    Steve




    From: Erik

    Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 10 December 2010

    14:16

    To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk

    Subject: Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link,

    now resolved

    Hi,

    that is, I don't

    want to have this as a life-style, with football-games at the Wirral and be

    mate with the Icelandic guy from the Scandinavian Church, etc.

    I only care about the viking-stuff on the Wirral etc.

    Because I have a lot of different interests, like blog, genealogy, web-design,

    etc., etc.

    So I haven't got that much spare-time.

    So this isn't about the community-stuff, this is just about the vikingship and

    the conference.

    Hope you include the questions from the audience, (from me and others), in the

    summary, since I brought up about the vikingship in Meols etc.

    Hope this is alright, don't mean to be to direct/inpolite.

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS.

    Maybe I'll go on a movie, or something, part of the Nordic festival, but I

    haven't got the time to go there all the time, unfortunately.

    I thought about

    going on Max Manus, (the Norwegian was-movie), in the Scandinavian chruch last

    year.

    And I asked a young Swedish woman, Amanda, who works at Netto, Weaverthree, if

    she had been at the Scandinavian Church, but she hadn't.

    Also, I have an

    employment-case, against Bertelsmann Arvato Microsoft Scandinavian Product

    Activation:

    Perhaps you know

    someone at the University of Nottingham, who could help me with this case, as a

    pro-bono-case, because this case involved/involves many Scandinavians living in

    Liverpool.

    (My alumumni, at

    University of Sunderland, haven't replied).

    Also, some of

    the employees there, had a lot to do with the Scandinavian Church, (and are

    included in the case), an Irish/Swede called Michael O'Shaughnessy etc., so I'm

    a bit vary about the Scandinavian Church, to be frank.

    So I think I'll only keep this at the level it's been at, that I only go to the

    odd trip/event at my own choice..

    Hope this is alright!

    ———-

    Forwarded message ———-

    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:53 PM

    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now

    resolved

    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    ok, perhaps I'll

    do that!

    Thank you very

    much for your help!

    I'll update you

    as soon as possible, if I hear something more from the Vikingship-experts in

    Norway.

    Thank you very much again for your reply!

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 10,

    2010 at 10:22 AM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    wrote:

    Thanks Erik

    We'll put a summary

    up soon on http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

    and may be able to include some videos of the talks – including the Intro

    – once we have permission from the speakers. If you like I can

    also put you in touch with Ingi Thor Jonsson – like yourself a

    resident Livepudlian – who runs the annual NICE (Nordic Cultural Events)

    Festival, I think you and Ingi would get on very well. There will

    eventually be a book based on the Conference but that won't be for some months,

    Ha det bra

    Steve

    Vikings: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve




    From: Erik Ribsskog

    [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 07 December 2010 14:53

    To: Stephen Harding

    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link,

    now resolved

    Hi,

    thank you very

    much for you e-mail!

    I've now sent about the Vikingship in Meols, to the Norwegian Maritime Museum,

    at Bygdøy, in Oslo.

    They are also experts on vikingships, and the conserving of these, like

    Cultural Historical Musum, in Oslo are.

    I'll update you

    more, if and when I hear back from them.

    Has anyone written a summary from the viking-conference, which I could write

    about on my blog, since I have a travel-blog etc., where I write about my short

    travels from Liverpool to different Norwegian Viking places in the Wirral.

    Thanks in advance for any help!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Tue, Dec 7,

    2010 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    wrote:

    Dear

    all,

    Firstly

    apologies for the bulk nature of this email again and secondly apologies to

    those who have had difficulty accessing the book (with its marvellous foreword

    by Michael Wood) through amazon.co.uk.:

    Although

    because of the demand (many thanks!) the site says "Out of Stock" if

    you click on the "2 new" you should be able to order the book

    immediately and in time for Christmas. Thirdly apologies if you have

    no interest in the Vikings!

    All best

    wishes

    Steve,

    Turi and Mark




    From: Harding Stephen

    Sent: 02 December 2010 14:41

    To: undisclosed recipients

    Subject: Viking DNA book

    Dear Colleagues

    (including many of you who took part in the genetic survey of northwest

    England, 2002-2007, or the Nordic Festival in 2008)

    Apologies if you get

    this message more than once! We are writing to bring to your attention a

    publication we have just produced. It focuses on the first part of a

    genetic survey of northern England – the Wirral and West Lancashire

    project in the northwest – and explains the basis behind the

    DNA method to probe ancestry, the use of surnames to help to localize

    volunteers to specific regions of the country, and how genetic methods are

    being used in conjunction with historical, archaeological and linguistic

    evidence to learn about Viking ancestry. It also gives some

    examples from individual results and from comparing populations of people to

    help show what these new technologies can achieve.

    Publication of the book

    has been supported by one of the UK Research Councils who have been supporting

    the study (the Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council) – and

    Nottingham University Press in conjunction with Countyvise Limited have very

    kindly produced this for us and indeed done a splendid job. We

    would like to stress that we as authors are not taking any Royalties or profit!

    The

    book is introduced with a brilliant foreword by famous UK/BBC

    historian/broadcaster Michael Wood after which we set out to show

    as clearly as we can, with the help of full colour illustrations – what

    DNA is and how DNA methods can be used to probe both individual and population

    ancestry. For probing Viking ancestry it shows the importance of using

    DNA in conjunction with historical, linguistic, place name and archaeological

    evidence – again with the help of many colour illustrations, and explains how

    DNA can be used to probe paternal ancestry and maternal ancestry either for

    individuals or for populations of people, explaining also some of the sometimes

    complicated jargon that scientists use.

    A major

    problem in studying population ancestry is the large population movements that

    have occurred since the Industrial Revolution. However there is a strong

    link between surnames and paternal DNA ancestry and the book explains how

    information such as Henry VIII’s tax rolls, , and even criminal records

    (including someone accused of killing a dog in 1348 …. found not guilty!)

    can be used to help establish the volunteer base for specific regions of

    northern England. Using these methods significant Scandinavian ancestry

    (up to 50% of the mixture of DNA from the old populations) has been shown for

    Wirral and West Lancashire. One youngster from Wirral was so

    impressed with the results for her father she wrote a School project

    “My Viking Dad and his Viking Dog”! The book finishes with a look

    towards the current testing of other regions of Northern England and the

    research currently being undertaken with colleagues in Norway to study the

    genetic profile of Scandinavia in the Viking Age.

    This

    broadcast on BBC Radio 4 gives some more information about the survey: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/making_history/making_history_20080520.shtml (after

    the first minute or so)

    So we think it will be a

    useful read for anyone interested in DNA ancestry and, after seeing what we

    have done in the North West, give people from other regions an idea of how

    their own past could be researched. The book is 150 pages long and

    extensively illustrated in colour.. The book has just

    become available in all good bookshops in the north West or from
    Amazon.co.uk *and

    would make an excellent Christmas present.

    Steve Harding, Mark

    Jobling and Turi King



    Stephen Harding DSc(Oxon)

    Professor of Applied

    Biochemistry

    NCMH Laboratory,

    University of Nottingham

    Sutton Bonington

    LE12 5RD,

    UK

    http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

    steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk

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  • Jeg fikk en ny e-post fra Stephen Harding, professor fra University of Nottingham, som jeg har anmeldt for trakassering







    Gmail – Anmeldelse av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved







    Gmail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Anmeldelse av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved





    Stephen Harding

    <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>





    Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 8:04 AM





    To:

    Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>


    Cc:

    Per Gisle Galåen <Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no>, "emb.london@mfa.no" <emb.london@mfa.no>, "gunvor.haustveit@ra.no" <gunvor.haustveit@ra.no>, "frode.kvalo@marmuseum.no" <frode.kvalo@marmuseum.no>, "post.sondre.buskerud@politiet.no" <post.sondre.buskerud@politiet.no>



    Dear Erik,

    Ingi Thor Jonsson, along with Wirral and Liverpool’s cultural ambassador Mike McCartney has done a tremendous amount of work over the last 4 years in strengthening the links between Merseyside/ the North West and the Nordic countries through the annual Nordic Cultural Events (NICE) Festival, and the suggestion of you making contact was made because of the (mistaken) impression you may wish to contribute to these efforts. With respect to the Viking Conference at Chester and the splendid exhibition provided for the public to enjoy the regions great Viking Heritage this was all provided completely free of charge – as was the buffet – thanks to the tremendous efforts of the staff of the Grosvenor Museum, and all the feedback we have had – apart from your comment – has been very positive. As a Wirral man going back very many generations I am very proud of what has been achieved. The food provided was free and if you did not like it there were other places to buy food nearby. If you missed the start of the meeting and the introduction so you did not know who the speakers were this was not the fault of the organisers. Nontheless we appreciate your interest in the Vikings in our region but if you wish to communicate with us in future please refrain from using offensive language otherwise your emails will be blocked. The talks will be posted on the website as soon as we can,

    Best wishes

    Steve Harding

    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    Sent: 10 December 2010 19:46
    To: Stephen Harding
    Cc: Per Gisle Galåen; emb.london@mfa.no; gunvor.haustveit@ra.no; frode.kvalo@marmuseum.no; post.sondre.buskerud@politiet.no
    Subject: Anmeldelse av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

    Hi,

    the Icelandic guy you said I'd get along well with is gay you b*stard.

    Now I don't wan't to update you anymore.

    Good luck with the Pakistani Samosa food on the Viking-conference.

    I think you must be a muslim guy mobbing me.

    Don't want anything more to do with you.

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:17 PM
    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved
    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    yes, I didn't understand the routine, to get on the conference.

    But, I haden't seen the exhipition yet, Reap and Pillage, so I just went to Chester that day, but the train was a few minutes early, so I got there a bit late.

    And then I spoke with the people working there, at the museum, who got me in there, after the first break.

    I understood it like that one only had to register at the museum, from your website.

    But now I understand, that I should have ordered a ticket.

    This wasn't clear to me, from reading your website.

    But, this is just a hobby for me, with the viking-stuff on the Wirral, so I read about it like I would have read an online newspaper etc.

    But next time I'll make sure to contact the hosts before I go to a conference like that.

    Sorry about that misunderstanding again!

    It sounds very fine about the video of the conference.

    I'll update you if I hear more from the Norwegian Maritime Museum, about the Vikingship, under the pub, Railway Inn, in Meols.

    Thanks again for arranging the fine viking conference!

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

    Thanks Erik. We are waiting to receive the video material (and permissions) on the conference and hopefully you should be able to catch up on the Introduction and the other talks you missed at the start. This will also be of benefit to others, particularly the many people who wanted to attend but were unable to get tickets.

    Paa gjensyn,

    Steve


    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 10 December 2010 14:16
    To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk
    Subject: Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

    Hi,

    that is, I don't want to have this as a life-style, with football-games at the Wirral and be mate with the Icelandic guy from the Scandinavian Church, etc.

    I only care about the viking-stuff on the Wirral etc.

    Because I have a lot of different interests, like blog, genealogy, web-design, etc., etc.

    So I haven't got that much spare-time.

    So this isn't about the community-stuff, this is just about the vikingship and the conference.

    Hope you include the questions from the audience, (from me and others), in the summary, since I brought up about the vikingship in Meols etc.

    Hope this is alright, don't mean to be to direct/inpolite.

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS.

    Maybe I'll go on a movie, or something, part of the Nordic festival, but I haven't got the time to go there all the time, unfortunately.

    I thought about going on Max Manus, (the Norwegian was-movie), in the Scandinavian chruch last year.

    And I asked a young Swedish woman, Amanda, who works at Netto, Weaverthree, if she had been at the Scandinavian Church, but she hadn't.

    Also, I have an employment-case, against Bertelsmann Arvato Microsoft Scandinavian Product Activation:

    Perhaps you know someone at the University of Nottingham, who could help me with this case, as a pro-bono-case, because this case involved/involves many Scandinavians living in Liverpool.

    (My alumumni, at University of Sunderland, haven't replied).

    Also, some of the employees there, had a lot to do with the Scandinavian Church, (and are included in the case), an Irish/Swede called Michael O'Shaughnessy etc., so I'm a bit vary about the Scandinavian Church, to be frank.

    So I think I'll only keep this at the level it's been at, that I only go to the odd trip/event at my own choice.

    Hope this is alright!

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:53 PM
    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved
    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    ok, perhaps I'll do that!

    Thank you very much for your help!

    I'll update you as soon as possible, if I hear something more from the Vikingship-experts in Norway.

    Thank you very much again for your reply!

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

    Thanks Erik

    We'll put a summary up soon on http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve and may be able to include some videos of the talks – including the Intro – once we have permission from the speakers. If you like I can also put you in touch with Ingi Thor Jonsson – like yourself a resident Livepudlian – who runs the annual NICE (Nordic Cultural Events) Festival, I think you and Ingi would get on very well. There will eventually be a book based on the Conference but that won't be for some months,

    Ha det bra

    Steve

    Vikings: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve


    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    Sent: 07 December 2010 14:53
    To: Stephen Harding
    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

    Hi,

    thank you very much for you e-mail!

    I've now sent about the Vikingship in Meols, to the Norwegian Maritime Museum, at Bygdøy, in Oslo.

    They are also experts on vikingships, and the conserving of these, like Cultural Historical Musum, in Oslo are.

    I'll update you more, if and when I hear back from them.

    Has anyone written a summary from the viking-conference, which I could write about on my blog, since I have a travel-blog etc., where I write about my short travels from Liverpool to different Norwegian Viking places in the Wirral.

    Thanks in advance for any help!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

    Dear all,

    Firstly apologies for the bulk nature of this email again and secondly apologies to those who have had difficulty accessing the book (with its marvellous foreword by Michael Wood) through amazon.co.uk.:

    Although because of the demand (many thanks!) the site says "Out of Stock" if you click on the "2 new" you should be able to order the book immediately and in time for Christmas. Thirdly apologies if you have no interest in the Vikings!

    All best wishes

    Steve, Turi and Mark


    From: Harding Stephen
    Sent: 02 December 2010 14:41
    To: undisclosed recipients
    Subject: Viking DNA book

    Dear Colleagues (including many of you who took part in the genetic survey of northwest England, 2002-2007, or the Nordic Festival in 2008)

    Apologies if you get this message more than once! We are writing to bring to your attention a publication we have just produced. It focuses on the first part of a genetic survey of northern England – the Wirral and West Lancashire project in the northwest – and explains the basis behind the DNA method to probe ancestry, the use of surnames to help to localize volunteers to specific regions of the country, and how genetic methods are being used in conjunction with historical, archaeological and linguistic evidence to learn about Viking ancestry. It also gives some examples from individual results and from comparing populations of people to help show what these new technologies can achieve.

    Publication of the book has been supported by one of the UK Research Councils who have been supporting the study (the Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council) – and Nottingham University Press in conjunction with Countyvise Limited have very kindly produced this for us and indeed done a splendid job. We would like to stress that we as authors are not taking any Royalties or profit!

    The book is introduced with a brilliant foreword by famous UK/BBC historian/broadcaster Michael Wood after which we set out to show as clearly as we can, with the help of full colour illustrations – what DNA is and how DNA methods can be used to probe both individual and population ancestry. For probing Viking ancestry it shows the importance of using DNA in conjunction with historical, linguistic, place name and archaeological evidence – again with the help of many colour illustrations, and explains how DNA can be used to probe paternal ancestry and maternal ancestry either for individuals or for populations of people, explaining also some of the sometimes complicated jargon that scientists use.

    A major problem in studying population ancestry is the large population movements that have occurred since the Industrial Revolution. However there is a strong link between surnames and paternal DNA ancestry and the book explains how information such as Henry VIII’s tax rolls, , and even criminal records (including someone accused of killing a dog in 1348 …. found not guilty!) can be used to help establish the volunteer base for specific regions of northern England. Using these methods significant Scandinavian ancestry (up to 50% of the mixture of DNA from the old populations) has been shown for Wirral and West Lancashire. One youngster from Wirral was so impressed with the results for her father she wrote a School project “My Viking Dad and his Viking Dog”! The book finishes with a look towards the current testing of other regions of Northern England and the research currently being undertaken with colleagues in Norway to study the genetic profile of Scandinavia in the Viking Age.

    This broadcast on BBC Radio 4 gives some more information about the survey: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/making_history/making_history_20080520.shtml (after the first minute or so)

    So we think it will be a useful read for anyone interested in DNA ancestry and, after seeing what we have done in the North West, give people from other regions an idea of how their own past could be researched. The book is 150 pages long and extensively illustrated in colour. The book has just become available in all good bookshops in the north West or from Amazon.co.uk *and would make an excellent Christmas present.

    Steve Harding, Mark Jobling and Turi King

    Stephen Harding DSc(Oxon)
    Professor of Applied Biochemistry
    NCMH Laboratory,
    University of Nottingham
    Sutton Bonington
    LE12 5RD, UK

    http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve
    steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk
    *in case of difficulty contact us on this email address, and we will put you in contact with Nottingham University Press or Countyvise

    This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham.

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    Gmail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Anmeldelse av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 7:46 PM





    To:

    Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>


    Cc:

    Per Gisle Galåen <Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no>, emb.london@mfa.no, gunvor.haustveit@ra.no, frode.kvalo@marmuseum.no, post.sondre.buskerud@politiet.no



    Hi,

    the Icelandic guy you said I'd get along well with is gay you b*stard.
    Now I don't wan't to update you anymore.
    Good luck with the Pakistani Samosa food on the Viking-conference.

    I think you must be a muslim guy mobbing me.
    Don't want anything more to do with you.
    Erik Ribsskog
    ———- Forwarded message ———-

    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:17 PM
    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    yes, I didn't understand the routine, to get on the conference.

    But, I haden't seen the exhipition yet, Reap and Pillage, so I just went to Chester that day, but the train was a few minutes early, so I got there a bit late.

    And then I spoke with the people working there, at the museum, who got me in there, after the first break.

    I understood it like that one only had to register at the museum, from your website.

    But now I understand, that I should have ordered a ticket.
    This wasn't clear to me, from reading your website.
    But, this is just a hobby for me, with the viking-stuff on the Wirral, so I read about it like I would have read an online newspaper etc.

    But next time I'll make sure to contact the hosts before I go to a conference like that.
    Sorry about that misunderstanding again!
    It sounds very fine about the video of the conference.

    I'll update you if I hear more from the Norwegian Maritime Museum, about the Vikingship, under the pub, Railway Inn, in Meols.
    Thanks again for arranging the fine viking conference!

    Best regards,
    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

    Thanks Erik. We are waiting to receive the video material (and

    permissions) on the conference and hopefully you should be able to

    catch up on the Introduction and the other talks you missed at the start.

    This will also be of benefit to others, particularly the many people

    who wanted to attend but were unable to get tickets.

    Paa gjensyn,

    Steve


    From: Erik Ribsskog

    [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 10 December 2010

    14:16
    To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk
    Subject: Fwd:

    Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now

    resolved

    Hi,

    that is, I don't want to have this as a life-style, with football-games

    at the Wirral and be mate with the Icelandic guy from the Scandinavian Church,

    etc.

    I only care about the viking-stuff on the Wirral etc.

    Because I have a lot of different interests, like blog, genealogy,

    web-design, etc., etc.

    So I haven't got that much spare-time.

    So this isn't about the community-stuff, this is just about the

    vikingship and the conference.

    Hope you include the questions from the audience, (from me and

    others), in the summary, since I brought up about the vikingship in Meols

    etc.

    Hope this is alright, don't mean to be to direct/inpolite.

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS.

    Maybe I'll go on a movie, or something, part of the Nordic festival,

    but I haven't got the time to go there all the time, unfortunately.

    I thought about going on Max Manus, (the Norwegian was-movie), in the

    Scandinavian chruch last year.

    And I asked a young Swedish woman, Amanda, who works at Netto,

    Weaverthree, if she had been at the Scandinavian Church, but she hadn't.

    Also, I have an employment-case, against Bertelsmann Arvato Microsoft

    Scandinavian Product Activation:

    Perhaps

    you know someone at the University of Nottingham, who could help me with this

    case, as a pro-bono-case, because this case involved/involves many

    Scandinavians living in Liverpool.

    (My alumumni, at University of Sunderland, haven't replied).

    Also, some of the employees there, had a lot to do with the Scandinavian

    Church, (and are included in the case), an Irish/Swede called Michael

    O'Shaughnessy etc., so I'm a bit vary about the Scandinavian Church, to be

    frank.

    So I think I'll only keep this at the level it's been at, that I only

    go to the odd trip/event at my own choice.

    Hope this is alright!

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date:

    Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:53 PM
    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for

    problems with Amazon link, now resolved
    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    ok, perhaps I'll do that!

    Thank you very much for your help!

    I'll update you as soon as possible, if I hear something more from the

    Vikingship-experts in Norway.

    Thank you very much again for your reply!

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

    Thanks

    Erik

    We'll put a summary up

    soon on http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve and may be able to

    include some videos of the talks – including the Intro – once we

    have permission from the speakers.
    If you like I can also put you in touch with Ingi

    Thor Jonsson – like yourself a resident Livepudlian – who runs the

    annual NICE (Nordic Cultural Events) Festival, I think you and Ingi

    would get on very well. There will eventually be a book based

    on the Conference but that won't be for some

    months,

    Ha det

    bra

    Steve


    Vikings: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve



    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 07 December 2010 14:53
    To: Stephen

    Harding
    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with

    Amazon link, now resolved

    Hi,

    thank you very much for you e-mail!

    I've now sent about the Vikingship in Meols, to the Norwegian

    Maritime Museum, at Bygdøy, in Oslo.

    They are also experts on vikingships, and the conserving of

    these, like Cultural Historical Musum, in Oslo are.

    I'll update you more, if and when I hear back from them.

    Has anyone written a summary from the viking-conference, which I

    could write about on my blog, since I have a travel-blog etc., where I

    write about my short travels from Liverpool to different Norwegian Viking

    places in the Wirral.

    Thanks in advance for any help!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Harding

    <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

    Dear all,

    Firstly apologies for the bulk nature of

    this email again and secondly apologies to those who have had difficulty

    accessing the book (with its marvellous foreword by Michael Wood)

    through amazon.co.uk.:

    Although because of the demand (many

    thanks!) the site says "Out of Stock" if you click on the "2 new" you

    should be able to order the book immediately and in time for

    Christmas. Thirdly apologies if you have no interest in

    the Vikings!

    All best wishes

    Steve, Turi and Mark


    From: Harding

    Stephen
    Sent: 02 December 2010 14:41
    To: undisclosed

    recipients
    Subject: Viking DNA book


    Dear Colleagues (including many of you who took

    part in the genetic survey of northwest England, 2002-2007, or the

    Nordic Festival in 2008)

    Apologies if you get this message more than once!

    We are writing to bring to your attention a publication we have

    just produced. It focuses on the first part

    of a genetic survey of northern

    England
    – the Wirral and West Lancashire project

    in the northwest – and explains the

    basis behind the DNA method to probe ancestry, the use of

    surnames to help to localize volunteers to specific regions of the

    country, and how genetic methods are being used in conjunction with

    historical, archaeological and linguistic evidence to learn about Viking

    ancestry. It also gives some examples from

    individual results and from comparing populations of people to help show

    what these new technologies can achieve.

    Publication of the book has been supported by one of the UK

    Research Councils who have been supporting the study (the Biotechnology

    and Biological Sciences Research Council) – and Nottingham University

    Press in conjunction with Countyvise Limited have very kindly produced

    this for us and indeed done a splendid job. We

    would like to stress that we as authors are not taking any Royalties or

    profit!

    The book is introduced with a

    brilliant foreword by famous UK/BBC historian/broadcaster

    Michael Wood after which we set out to show as clearly as

    we can, with the help of full colour illustrations – what DNA is and how

    DNA methods can be used to probe both individual and population

    ancestry. For probing Viking ancestry it shows the

    importance of using DNA in conjunction with historical, linguistic,

    place name and archaeological evidence – again with the help of

    many colour illustrations
    , and explains how DNA can be used to

    probe paternal ancestry and maternal ancestry either for individuals or

    for populations of people, explaining also some of the sometimes

    complicated jargon that scientists use.

    A major problem in studying

    population ancestry is the large population movements that have occurred

    since the Industrial Revolution. However there is a

    strong link between surnames and paternal DNA ancestry and the book

    explains how information such as Henry VIII’s tax rolls, , and even

    criminal records (including someone accused of killing a dog in 1348 ….

    found not guilty!) can be used to help establish the volunteer base for

    specific regions of northern England. Using these

    methods significant Scandinavian ancestry (up to 50% of the mixture of

    DNA from the old populations) has been shown for Wirral and West

    Lancashire. One youngster from Wirral was so

    impressed with the results for her father she wrote a

    School project “My Viking Dad and his Viking Dog”! The book finishes

    with a look towards the current testing of other regions of Northern

    England and the research currently being undertaken with

    colleagues in Norway to study the genetic profile of Scandinavia in

    the Viking Age.

    This broadcast on BBC

    Radio 4 gives some more information about the survey: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/making_history/making_history_20080520.shtml (after

    the first minute or so)

    So we think it will be a useful read for anyone interested

    in DNA ancestry and, after seeing what we have done in the North West,

    give people from other regions an idea of how their own past could be

    researched. The book is 150 pages long and

    extensively illustrated in colour. The

    book has just become available in all good

    bookshops in the north West or from
    Amazon.co.uk *and would make an excellent Christmas

    present.

    Steve Harding, Mark Jobling and Turi King





    Stephen Harding DSc(Oxon)
    Professor of Applied

    Biochemistry
    NCMH Laboratory,
    University of Nottingham
    Sutton

    Bonington
    LE12 5RD,

    UK

    http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/sczsteve

    steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk
    *in case of difficulty contact us on this email

    address, and we will put you in contact with Nottingham University Press

    or Countyvise

    This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee

    and may contain confidential information. If you have received this

    message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it.

    Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this

    message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the

    author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the

    University of Nottingham.

    This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an

    attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your

    computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email

    communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as

    permitted by UK legislation.






    PS.

    Her kan man se hvorfor jeg skriver at han islendingen, som han profesoren fra Nottingham, ville ha meg til å bli kjent med, er homo. (Pink er en homoklubb, i Liverpool):

    pink er homo-klubb

    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=801967925

  • Jeg sendte en ny e-post til Norsk Maritimt Museum







    Gmail – Oppdatering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved







    Gmail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Oppdatering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:47 PM





    To:

    Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no, frode.kvalo@marmuseum.no


    Cc:

    Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk


    Bcc:

    emb.london@mfa.no, gunvor.haustveit@ra.no



    Hvis dere ikke svarer, fra Norsk Maritimt Museum, så sladrer jeg til Riksantikvaren.

    Det var de som sa at dere hadde greie på det her.
    Britene svarer med en gang.
    Med hilsen

    Erik Ribsskog
    PS.
    Kulturhistorisk Museum har heller ikke svart.
    Jeg sender til alle i den rekkefølgen som Riksantikvaren listet de opp, i denne e-posten:

    From: Haustveit, Gunvor <gunvor.haustveit@ra.no>

    Date: 2010/10/18

    Subject: Svar på spørsmål "hjelp med å grave opp vikingskip i England"

    To: eribsskog@gmail.com

    Hei og takk for
    e-post.

    Det er flere kompetansesentra og forskere som er dyktige på feltet

    om vikingskip. Anbefaler først og fremst: Kulturhistorisk museum med
    Vikingskipshuset, dernest Norsk Maritimt Museum og Norsk Institutt for
    kulturminneforskning. I Danmark er det kompetanse ved Roskilde museum.

    Lykke til!


    Helsing

    Gunvor Haustveit
    Informasjonsseksjonen


    Riksantikvaren

    Postboks 8196 Dep

    0034 Oslo
    Tlf: + 47 98 20 27 60

    www.riksantikvaren.no

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:17 PM
    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved
    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    yes, I didn't understand the routine, to get on the conference.
    But, I haden't seen the exhipition yet, Reap and Pillage, so I just went to Chester that day, but the train was a few minutes early, so I got there a bit late.

    And then I spoke with the people working there, at the museum, who got me in there, after the first break.

    I understood it like that one only had to register at the museum, from your website.

    But now I understand, that I should have ordered a ticket.
    This wasn't clear to me, from reading your website.
    But, this is just a hobby for me, with the viking-stuff on the Wirral, so I read about it like I would have read an online newspaper etc.

    But next time I'll make sure to contact the hosts before I go to a conference like that.
    Sorry about that misunderstanding again!
    It sounds very fine about the video of the conference.

    I'll update you if I hear more from the Norwegian Maritime Museum, about the Vikingship, under the pub, Railway Inn, in Meols.
    Thanks again for arranging the fine viking conference!

    Best regards,
    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

    Thanks Erik. We are waiting to receive the video material (and

    permissions) on the conference and hopefully you should be able to

    catch up on the Introduction and the other talks you missed at the start.

    This will also be of benefit to others, particularly the many people

    who wanted to attend but were unable to get tickets.

    Paa gjensyn,

    Steve


    From: Erik Ribsskog

    [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 10 December 2010

    14:16
    To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk
    Subject: Fwd:

    Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now

    resolved

    Hi,

    that is, I don't want to have this as a life-style, with football-games

    at the Wirral and be mate with the Icelandic guy from the Scandinavian Church,

    etc.

    I only care about the viking-stuff on the Wirral etc.

    Because I have a lot of different interests, like blog, genealogy,

    web-design, etc., etc.

    So I haven't got that much spare-time.

    So this isn't about the community-stuff, this is just about the

    vikingship and the conference.

    Hope you include the questions from the audience, (from me and

    others), in the summary, since I brought up about the vikingship in Meols

    etc.

    Hope this is alright, don't mean to be to direct/inpolite.

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS.

    Maybe I'll go on a movie, or something, part of the Nordic festival,

    but I haven't got the time to go there all the time, unfortunately.

    I thought about going on Max Manus, (the Norwegian was-movie), in the

    Scandinavian chruch last year.

    And I asked a young Swedish woman, Amanda, who works at Netto,

    Weaverthree, if she had been at the Scandinavian Church, but she hadn't.

    Also, I have an employment-case, against Bertelsmann Arvato Microsoft

    Scandinavian Product Activation:

    Perhaps

    you know someone at the University of Nottingham, who could help me with this

    case, as a pro-bono-case, because this case involved/involves many

    Scandinavians living in Liverpool.

    (My alumumni, at University of Sunderland, haven't replied).

    Also, some of the employees there, had a lot to do with the Scandinavian

    Church, (and are included in the case), an Irish/Swede called Michael

    O'Shaughnessy etc., so I'm a bit vary about the Scandinavian Church, to be

    frank.

    So I think I'll only keep this at the level it's been at, that I only

    go to the odd trip/event at my own choice.

    Hope this is alright!

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date:

    Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:53 PM
    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for

    problems with Amazon link, now resolved
    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    ok, perhaps I'll do that!

    Thank you very much for your help!

    I'll update you as soon as possible, if I hear something more from the

    Vikingship-experts in Norway.

    Thank you very much again for your reply!

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

    Thanks

    Erik

    We'll put a summary up

    soon on http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve and may be able to

    include some videos of the talks – including the Intro – once we

    have permission from the speakers.
    If you like I can also put you in touch with Ingi

    Thor Jonsson – like yourself a resident Livepudlian – who runs the

    annual NICE (Nordic Cultural Events) Festival, I think you and Ingi

    would get on very well. There will eventually be a book based

    on the Conference but that won't be for some

    months,

    Ha det

    bra

    Steve


    Vikings: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve



    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 07 December 2010 14:53
    To: Stephen

    Harding
    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with

    Amazon link, now resolved

    Hi,

    thank you very much for you e-mail!

    I've now sent about the Vikingship in Meols, to the Norwegian

    Maritime Museum, at Bygdøy, in Oslo.

    They are also experts on vikingships, and the conserving of

    these, like Cultural Historical Musum, in Oslo are.

    I'll update you more, if and when I hear back from them.

    Has anyone written a summary from the viking-conference, which I

    could write about on my blog, since I have a travel-blog etc., where I

    write about my short travels from Liverpool to different Norwegian Viking

    places in the Wirral.

    Thanks in advance for any help!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Harding

    <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

    Dear all,

    Firstly apologies for the bulk nature of

    this email again and secondly apologies to those who have had difficulty

    accessing the book (with its marvellous foreword by Michael Wood)

    through amazon.co.uk.:

    Although because of the demand (many

    thanks!) the site says "Out of Stock" if you click on the "2 new" you

    should be able to order the book immediately and in time for

    Christmas. Thirdly apologies if you have no interest in

    the Vikings!

    All best wishes

    Steve, Turi and Mark


    From: Harding

    Stephen
    Sent: 02 December 2010 14:41
    To: undisclosed

    recipients
    Subject: Viking DNA book


    Dear Colleagues (including many of you who took

    part in the genetic survey of northwest England, 2002-2007, or the

    Nordic Festival in 2008)

    Apologies if you get this message more than once!

    We are writing to bring to your attention a publication we have

    just produced. It focuses on the first part

    of a genetic survey of northern

    England
    – the Wirral and West Lancashire project

    in the northwest – and explains the

    basis behind the DNA method to probe ancestry, the use of

    surnames to help to localize volunteers to specific regions of the

    country, and how genetic methods are being used in conjunction with

    historical, archaeological and linguistic evidence to learn about Viking

    ancestry. It also gives some examples from

    individual results and from comparing populations of people to help show

    what these new technologies can achieve.

    Publication of the book has been supported by one of the UK

    Research Councils who have been supporting the study (the Biotechnology

    and Biological Sciences Research Council) – and Nottingham University

    Press in conjunction with Countyvise Limited have very kindly produced

    this for us and indeed done a splendid job. We

    would like to stress that we as authors are not taking any Royalties or

    profit!

    The book is introduced with a

    brilliant foreword by famous UK/BBC historian/broadcaster

    Michael Wood after which we set out to show as clearly as

    we can, with the help of full colour illustrations – what DNA is and how

    DNA methods can be used to probe both individual and population

    ancestry. For probing Viking ancestry it shows the

    importance of using DNA in conjunction with historical, linguistic,

    place name and archaeological evidence – again with the help of

    many colour illustrations
    , and explains how DNA can be used to

    probe paternal ancestry and maternal ancestry either for individuals or

    for populations of people, explaining also some of the sometimes

    complicated jargon that scientists use.

    A major problem in studying

    population ancestry is the large population movements that have occurred

    since the Industrial Revolution. However there is a

    strong link between surnames and paternal DNA ancestry and the book

    explains how information such as Henry VIII’s tax rolls, , and even

    criminal records (including someone accused of killing a dog in 1348 ….

    found not guilty!) can be used to help establish the volunteer base for

    specific regions of northern England. Using these

    methods significant Scandinavian ancestry (up to 50% of the mixture of

    DNA from the old populations) has been shown for Wirral and West

    Lancashire. One youngster from Wirral was so

    impressed with the results for her father she wrote a

    School project “My Viking Dad and his Viking Dog”! The book finishes

    with a look towards the current testing of other regions of Northern

    England and the research currently being undertaken with

    colleagues in Norway to study the genetic profile of Scandinavia in

    the Viking Age.

    This broadcast on BBC

    Radio 4 gives some more information about the survey: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/making_history/making_history_20080520.shtml (after

    the first minute or so)

    So we think it will be a useful read for anyone interested

    in DNA ancestry and, after seeing what we have done in the North West,

    give people from other regions an idea of how their own past could be

    researched. The book is 150 pages long and

    extensively illustrated in colour. The

    book has just become available in all good

    bookshops in the north West or from
    Amazon.co.uk *and would make an excellent Christmas

    present.

    Steve Harding, Mark Jobling and Turi King





    Stephen Harding DSc(Oxon)
    Professor of Applied

    Biochemistry
    NCMH Laboratory,
    University of Nottingham
    Sutton

    Bonington
    LE12 5RD,

    UK

    http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/sczsteve

    steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk
    *in case of difficulty contact us on this email

    address, and we will put you in contact with Nottingham University Press

    or Countyvise

    This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee

    and may contain confidential information. If you have received this

    message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it.

    Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this

    message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the

    author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the

    University of Nottingham.

    This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an

    attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your

    computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email

    communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as

    permitted by UK legislation.






  • Jeg sendte en ny e-post om vikingene på the Wirral







    Gmail – Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved







    Gmail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:17 PM





    To:

    Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>



    Hi,

    yes, I didn't understand the routine, to get on the conference.
    But, I haden't seen the exhipition yet, Reap and Pillage, so I just went to Chester that day, but the train was a few minutes early, so I got there a bit late.

    And then I spoke with the people working there, at the museum, who got me in there, after the first break.

    I understood it like that one only had to register at the museum, from your website.

    But now I understand, that I should have ordered a ticket.
    This wasn't clear to me, from reading your website.
    But, this is just a hobby for me, with the viking-stuff on the Wirral, so I read about it like I would have read an online newspaper etc.

    But next time I'll make sure to contact the hosts before I go to a conference like that.
    Sorry about that misunderstanding again!
    It sounds very fine about the video of the conference.

    I'll update you if I hear more from the Norwegian Maritime Museum, about the Vikingship, under the pub, Railway Inn, in Meols.
    Thanks again for arranging the fine viking conference!

    Best regards,
    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

    Thanks Erik. We are waiting to receive the video material (and

    permissions) on the conference and hopefully you should be able to

    catch up on the Introduction and the other talks you missed at the start.

    This will also be of benefit to others, particularly the many people

    who wanted to attend but were unable to get tickets.

    Paa gjensyn,

    Steve


    From: Erik Ribsskog

    [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 10 December 2010

    14:16
    To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk
    Subject: Fwd:

    Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now

    resolved

    Hi,

    that is, I don't want to have this as a life-style, with football-games

    at the Wirral and be mate with the Icelandic guy from the Scandinavian Church,

    etc.

    I only care about the viking-stuff on the Wirral etc.

    Because I have a lot of different interests, like blog, genealogy,

    web-design, etc., etc.

    So I haven't got that much spare-time.

    So this isn't about the community-stuff, this is just about the

    vikingship and the conference.

    Hope you include the questions from the audience, (from me and

    others), in the summary, since I brought up about the vikingship in Meols

    etc.

    Hope this is alright, don't mean to be to direct/inpolite.

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS.

    Maybe I'll go on a movie, or something, part of the Nordic festival,

    but I haven't got the time to go there all the time, unfortunately.

    I thought about going on Max Manus, (the Norwegian was-movie), in the

    Scandinavian chruch last year.

    And I asked a young Swedish woman, Amanda, who works at Netto,

    Weaverthree, if she had been at the Scandinavian Church, but she hadn't.

    Also, I have an employment-case, against Bertelsmann Arvato Microsoft

    Scandinavian Product Activation:

    Perhaps

    you know someone at the University of Nottingham, who could help me with this

    case, as a pro-bono-case, because this case involved/involves many

    Scandinavians living in Liverpool.

    (My alumumni, at University of Sunderland, haven't replied).

    Also, some of the employees there, had a lot to do with the Scandinavian

    Church, (and are included in the case), an Irish/Swede called Michael

    O'Shaughnessy etc., so I'm a bit vary about the Scandinavian Church, to be

    frank.

    So I think I'll only keep this at the level it's been at, that I only

    go to the odd trip/event at my own choice.

    Hope this is alright!

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date:

    Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:53 PM
    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for

    problems with Amazon link, now resolved
    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    ok, perhaps I'll do that!

    Thank you very much for your help!

    I'll update you as soon as possible, if I hear something more from the

    Vikingship-experts in Norway.

    Thank you very much again for your reply!

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

    Thanks

    Erik

    We'll put a summary up

    soon on http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve and may be able to

    include some videos of the talks – including the Intro – once we

    have permission from the speakers.
    If you like I can also put you in touch with Ingi

    Thor Jonsson – like yourself a resident Livepudlian – who runs the

    annual NICE (Nordic Cultural Events) Festival, I think you and Ingi

    would get on very well. There will eventually be a book based

    on the Conference but that won't be for some

    months,

    Ha det

    bra

    Steve


    Vikings: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve



    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 07 December 2010 14:53
    To: Stephen

    Harding
    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with

    Amazon link, now resolved

    Hi,

    thank you very much for you e-mail!

    I've now sent about the Vikingship in Meols, to the Norwegian

    Maritime Museum, at Bygdøy, in Oslo.

    They are also experts on vikingships, and the conserving of

    these, like Cultural Historical Musum, in Oslo are.

    I'll update you more, if and when I hear back from them.

    Has anyone written a summary from the viking-conference, which I

    could write about on my blog, since I have a travel-blog etc., where I

    write about my short travels from Liverpool to different Norwegian Viking

    places in the Wirral.

    Thanks in advance for any help!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Harding

    <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

    Dear all,

    Firstly apologies for the bulk nature of

    this email again and secondly apologies to those who have had difficulty

    accessing the book (with its marvellous foreword by Michael Wood)

    through amazon.co.uk.:

    Although because of the demand (many

    thanks!) the site says "Out of Stock" if you click on the "2 new" you

    should be able to order the book immediately and in time for

    Christmas. Thirdly apologies if you have no interest in

    the Vikings!

    All best wishes

    Steve, Turi and Mark


    From: Harding

    Stephen
    Sent: 02 December 2010 14:41
    To: undisclosed

    recipients
    Subject: Viking DNA book


    Dear Colleagues (including many of you who took

    part in the genetic survey of northwest England, 2002-2007, or the

    Nordic Festival in 2008)

    Apologies if you get this message more than once!

    We are writing to bring to your attention a publication we have

    just produced. It focuses on the first part

    of a genetic survey of northern

    England
    – the Wirral and West Lancashire project

    in the northwest – and explains the

    basis behind the DNA method to probe ancestry, the use of

    surnames to help to localize volunteers to specific regions of the

    country, and how genetic methods are being used in conjunction with

    historical, archaeological and linguistic evidence to learn about Viking

    ancestry. It also gives some examples from

    individual results and from comparing populations of people to help show

    what these new technologies can achieve.

    Publication of the book has been supported by one of the UK

    Research Councils who have been supporting the study (the Biotechnology

    and Biological Sciences Research Council) – and Nottingham University

    Press in conjunction with Countyvise Limited have very kindly produced

    this for us and indeed done a splendid job. We

    would like to stress that we as authors are not taking any Royalties or

    profit!

    The book is introduced with a

    brilliant foreword by famous UK/BBC historian/broadcaster

    Michael Wood after which we set out to show as clearly as

    we can, with the help of full colour illustrations – what DNA is and how

    DNA methods can be used to probe both individual and population

    ancestry. For probing Viking ancestry it shows the

    importance of using DNA in conjunction with historical, linguistic,

    place name and archaeological evidence – again with the help of

    many colour illustrations
    , and explains how DNA can be used to

    probe paternal ancestry and maternal ancestry either for individuals or

    for populations of people, explaining also some of the sometimes

    complicated jargon that scientists use.

    A major problem in studying

    population ancestry is the large population movements that have occurred

    since the Industrial Revolution. However there is a

    strong link between surnames and paternal DNA ancestry and the book

    explains how information such as Henry VIII’s tax rolls, , and even

    criminal records (including someone accused of killing a dog in 1348 ….

    found not guilty!) can be used to help establish the volunteer base for

    specific regions of northern England. Using these

    methods significant Scandinavian ancestry (up to 50% of the mixture of

    DNA from the old populations) has been shown for Wirral and West

    Lancashire. One youngster from Wirral was so

    impressed with the results for her father she wrote a

    School project “My Viking Dad and his Viking Dog”! The book finishes

    with a look towards the current testing of other regions of Northern

    England and the research currently being undertaken with

    colleagues in Norway to study the genetic profile of Scandinavia in

    the Viking Age.

    This broadcast on BBC

    Radio 4 gives some more information about the survey: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/making_history/making_history_20080520.shtml (after

    the first minute or so)

    So we think it will be a useful read for anyone interested

    in DNA ancestry and, after seeing what we have done in the North West,

    give people from other regions an idea of how their own past could be

    researched. The book is 150 pages long and

    extensively illustrated in colour. The

    book has just become available in all good

    bookshops in the north West or from
    Amazon.co.uk *and would make an excellent Christmas

    present.

    Steve Harding, Mark Jobling and Turi King





    Stephen Harding DSc(Oxon)
    Professor of Applied

    Biochemistry
    NCMH Laboratory,
    University of Nottingham
    Sutton

    Bonington
    LE12 5RD,

    UK

    http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/sczsteve

    steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk
    *in case of difficulty contact us on this email

    address, and we will put you in contact with Nottingham University Press

    or Countyvise

    This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee

    and may contain confidential information. If you have received this

    message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it.

    Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this

    message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the

    author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the

    University of Nottingham.

    This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an

    attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your

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    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:15 PM





    To:

    Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk



    Hi,

    that is, I don't want to have this as a life-style, with football-games at the Wirral and be mate with the Icelandic guy from the Scandinavian Church, etc.
    I only care about the viking-stuff on the Wirral etc.

    Because I have a lot of different interests, like blog, genealogy, web-design, etc., etc.
    So I haven't got that much spare-time.
    So this isn't about the community-stuff, this is just about the vikingship and the conference.

    Hope you include the questions from the audience, (from me and others), in the summary, since I brought up about the vikingship in Meols etc.
    Hope this is alright, don't mean to be to direct/inpolite.

    Best regards,
    Erik Ribsskog

    PS.
    Maybe I'll go on a movie, or something, part of the Nordic festival, but I haven't got the time to go there all the time, unfortunately.

    I thought about going on Max Manus, (the Norwegian was-movie), in the Scandinavian chruch last year.
    And I asked a young Swedish woman, Amanda, who works at Netto, Weaverthree, if she had been at the Scandinavian Church, but she hadn't.

    Also, I have an employment-case, against Bertelsmann Arvato Microsoft Scandinavian Product Activation:

    Perhaps you know someone at the University of Nottingham, who could help me with this case, as a pro-bono-case, because this case involved/involves many Scandinavians living in Liverpool.

    (My alumumni, at University of Sunderland, haven't replied).
    Also, some of the employees there, had a lot to do with the Scandinavian Church, (and are included in the case), an Irish/Swede called Michael O'Shaughnessy etc., so I'm a bit vary about the Scandinavian Church, to be frank.

    So I think I'll only keep this at the level it's been at, that I only go to the odd trip/event at my own choice.
    Hope this is alright!

    ———- Forwarded message ———-

    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:53 PM
    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved


    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    ok, perhaps I'll do that!
    Thank you very much for your help!

    I'll update you as soon as possible, if I hear something more from the Vikingship-experts in Norway.

    Thank you very much again for your reply!
    Best regards,
    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

    Thanks Erik

    We'll put a summary up soon on http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

    and may be able to include some videos of the talks – including the Intro

    – once we have permission from the speakers.
    If you like I can

    also put you in touch with Ingi Thor Jonsson – like yourself a

    resident Livepudlian – who runs the annual NICE (Nordic Cultural Events)

    Festival, I think you and Ingi would get on very well. There will

    eventually be a book based on the Conference but that won't be for some

    months,

    Ha det bra

    Steve


    Vikings: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve



    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 07 December 2010 14:53
    To: Stephen

    Harding
    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with

    Amazon link, now resolved

    Hi,

    thank you very much for you e-mail!

    I've now sent about the Vikingship in Meols, to the Norwegian

    Maritime Museum, at Bygdøy, in Oslo.

    They are also experts on vikingships, and the conserving of these,

    like Cultural Historical Musum, in Oslo are.

    I'll update you more, if and when I hear back from them.

    Has anyone written a summary from the viking-conference, which I

    could write about on my blog, since I have a travel-blog etc., where I write

    about my short travels from Liverpool to different Norwegian Viking places in

    the Wirral.

    Thanks in advance for any help!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    wrote:

    Dear all,

    Firstly apologies for the bulk nature of this

    email again and secondly apologies to those who have had difficulty

    accessing the book (with its marvellous foreword by Michael Wood) through amazon.co.uk.:

    Although because of the demand (many thanks!)

    the site says "Out of Stock" if you click on the "2 new" you should be able

    to order the book immediately and in time for Christmas. Thirdly

    apologies if you have no interest in the Vikings!

    All best wishes

    Steve, Turi and Mark


    From: Harding

    Stephen
    Sent: 02 December 2010 14:41
    To: undisclosed

    recipients
    Subject: Viking DNA book


    Dear Colleagues (including many of you who took part

    in the genetic survey of northwest England, 2002-2007, or the Nordic

    Festival in 2008)

    Apologies if you get this message more than once!

    We are writing to bring to your attention a publication we have just

    produced. It focuses on the first part of a

    genetic
    survey of northern England – the Wirral and

    West Lancashire project in the northwest – and

    explains the basis behind the DNA method to probe

    ancestry, the use of surnames to help to localize volunteers to specific

    regions of the country, and how genetic methods are being used in

    conjunction with historical, archaeological and linguistic evidence to learn

    about Viking ancestry. It also gives some examples

    from individual results and from comparing populations of people to help

    show what these new technologies can achieve.

    Publication of the book has been supported by one of the UK

    Research Councils who have been supporting the study (the Biotechnology and

    Biological Sciences Research Council) – and Nottingham University Press in

    conjunction with Countyvise Limited have very kindly produced this for us

    and indeed done a splendid job. We would like to

    stress that we as authors are not taking any Royalties or

    profit!

    The book is introduced with a

    brilliant foreword by famous UK/BBC historian/broadcaster

    Michael Wood after which we set out to show as clearly as we

    can, with the help of full colour illustrations – what DNA is and how DNA

    methods can be used to probe both individual and population

    ancestry. For probing Viking ancestry it shows the

    importance of using DNA in conjunction with historical, linguistic, place

    name and archaeological evidence – again with the help of many colour

    illustrations
    , and explains how DNA can be used to probe paternal

    ancestry and maternal ancestry either for individuals or for populations of

    people, explaining also some of the sometimes complicated jargon that

    scientists use.

    A major problem in studying

    population ancestry is the large population movements that have occurred

    since the Industrial Revolution. However there is a

    strong link between surnames and paternal DNA ancestry and the book explains

    how information such as Henry VIII’s tax rolls, , and even criminal records

    (including someone accused of killing a dog in 1348 …. found not guilty!)

    can be used to help establish the volunteer base for specific regions of

    northern England. Using these methods significant

    Scandinavian ancestry (up to 50% of the mixture of DNA from the old

    populations) has been shown for Wirral and West Lancashire.

    One youngster from Wirral was so impressed with the

    results for her father she wrote a School project “My

    Viking Dad and his Viking Dog”! The book finishes with a look towards the

    current testing of other regions of Northern England and the research

    currently being undertaken with colleagues in Norway to study the genetic

    profile of Scandinavia in the Viking Age.

    This broadcast on BBC Radio

    4 gives some more information about the survey: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/making_history/making_history_20080520.shtml (after

    the first minute or so)

    So we think it will be a useful read for anyone interested in

    DNA ancestry and, after seeing what we have done in the North West, give

    people from other regions an idea of how their own past could be

    researched. The book is 150 pages long and

    extensively illustrated in colour. The

    book has just become available in all good bookshops

    in the north West or from
    Amazon.co.uk *and would make an

    excellent Christmas present.

    Steve Harding, Mark Jobling and Turi King





    Stephen Harding DSc(Oxon)
    Professor of Applied

    Biochemistry
    NCMH Laboratory,
    University of Nottingham
    Sutton

    Bonington
    LE12 5RD,

    UK

    http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/sczsteve

    steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk
    *in case of difficulty contact us on this email address, and we will

    put you in contact with Nottingham University Press or

    Countyvise

    This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and

    may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in

    error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not

    use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any

    attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do

    not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham.

    This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an

    attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your

    computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email

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    Gmail



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    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




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    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:22 PM





    To:

    Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no


    Cc:

    frode.kvalo@marmuseum.no


    Bcc:

    Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk



    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:52 PM
    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved
    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    thank you very much for you e-mail!
    I've now sent about the Vikingship in Meols, to the Norwegian Maritime Museum, at Bygdøy, in Oslo.
    They are also experts on vikingships, and the conserving of these, like Cultural Historical Musum, in Oslo are.

    I'll update you more, if and when I hear back from them.
    Has anyone written a summary from the viking-conference, which I could write about on my blog, since I have a travel-blog etc., where I write about my short travels from Liverpool to different Norwegian Viking places in the Wirral.

    Thanks in advance for any help!
    Yours sincerely,
    Erik Ribsskog

    On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

    Dear all,

    Firstly apologies for the bulk nature of this email again and secondly apologies to those who have had difficulty accessing the book (with its marvellous foreword by Michael Wood) through amazon.co.uk.:

    Although because of the demand (many thanks!) the site says "Out of Stock" if you click on the "2 new" you should be able to order the book immediately and in time for Christmas. Thirdly apologies if you have no interest in

    the Vikings!

    All best wishes

    Steve, Turi and Mark


    From: Harding Stephen

    Sent: 02 December 2010 14:41

    To: undisclosed recipients

    Subject: Viking DNA book


    Dear Colleagues (including many of you who took part in the genetic survey of northwest England, 2002-2007, or the Nordic Festival in 2008)

    Apologies if you get this message more than once!

    We are writing to bring to your attention a publication we have just produced. It

    focuses on the first part of a genetic

    survey of northern England – the Wirral and West Lancashire project in the

    northwest – and explains the basis behind the DNA method

    to probe ancestry, the use of surnames to help to localize volunteers to specific regions of the country, and how genetic methods are being used in conjunction with historical, archaeological and linguistic evidence to learn about Viking ancestry.

    It also gives some examples from individual results and from comparing populations of people to help show what these new technologies can achieve.

    Publication of the book has been supported by one of the UK Research Councils who have been supporting the study (the Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council)

    – and Nottingham University Press in conjunction with Countyvise Limited have very kindly produced this for us and indeed done a splendid job.

    We would like to stress that we as authors are not taking any Royalties or profit!

    The book is introduced with a brilliant foreword by famous UK/BBC historian/broadcaster

    Michael Wood after which we set out to show as clearly as we can, with the help of full colour illustrations – what DNA is and how DNA methods can be used to probe both individual and population ancestry.

    For probing Viking ancestry it shows the importance of using DNA in conjunction with historical, linguistic, place name and archaeological evidence – again with the help of many colour illustrations, and explains

    how DNA can be used to probe paternal ancestry and maternal ancestry either for individuals or for populations of people, explaining also some of the sometimes complicated jargon that scientists use.

    A major problem in studying population ancestry is the large population movements that have occurred since the Industrial Revolution.

    However there is a strong link between surnames and paternal DNA ancestry and the book explains how information such as Henry VIII’s tax rolls, , and even criminal records (including someone accused of killing a dog in 1348 …. found not guilty!) can

    be used to help establish the volunteer base for specific regions of northern England.

    Using these methods significant Scandinavian ancestry (up to 50% of the mixture of DNA from the old populations) has been shown for Wirral and West Lancashire.

    One youngster from Wirral was so impressed with the results for her father she wrote a School project “My Viking Dad and his Viking Dog”! The book finishes with a look towards the current testing of other

    regions of Northern England and the research currently being undertaken with colleagues in Norway to study the genetic profile of Scandinavia in the Viking Age.

    This broadcast on BBC Radio 4 gives some more information about the survey:



    http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/making_history/making_history_20080520.shtml
    (after the first minute or so)

    So we think it will be a useful read for anyone interested in DNA ancestry and, after seeing what we have done in the North West, give people from other regions an idea

    of how their own past could be researched. The book is 150 pages long and extensively illustrated in colour.

    The book has just become available in all good bookshops in the north West or from

    Amazon.co.uk *and

    would make an excellent Christmas present.

    Steve Harding, Mark Jobling and Turi King



    Stephen Harding DSc(Oxon)

    Professor of Applied Biochemistry

    NCMH Laboratory,

    University of Nottingham

    Sutton Bonington

    LE12 5RD, UK

    http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/sczsteve

    steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk

    *in case of difficulty contact us on this email address, and we will put you in contact with Nottingham University Press or Countyvise


    This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may

    contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error,

    please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use,

    copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment.

    Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily

    reflect the views of the University of Nottingham.


    This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment

    may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system:

    you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the

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    Gmail



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    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:52 PM





    To:

    Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>



    Hi,

    thank you very much for you e-mail!
    I've now sent about the Vikingship in Meols, to the Norwegian Maritime Museum, at Bygdøy, in Oslo.
    They are also experts on vikingships, and the conserving of these, like Cultural Historical Musum, in Oslo are.

    I'll update you more, if and when I hear back from them.
    Has anyone written a summary from the viking-conference, which I could write about on my blog, since I have a travel-blog etc., where I write about my short travels from Liverpool to different Norwegian Viking places in the Wirral.

    Thanks in advance for any help!
    Yours sincerely,
    Erik Ribsskog

    On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

    Dear all,

    Firstly apologies for the bulk nature of this email again and secondly apologies to those who have had difficulty accessing the book (with its marvellous foreword by Michael Wood) through amazon.co.uk.:

    Although because of the demand (many thanks!) the site says "Out of Stock" if you click on the "2 new" you should be able to order the book immediately and in time for Christmas. Thirdly apologies if you have no interest in

    the Vikings!

    All best wishes

    Steve, Turi and Mark


    From: Harding Stephen

    Sent: 02 December 2010 14:41

    To: undisclosed recipients

    Subject: Viking DNA book


    Dear Colleagues (including many of you who took part in the genetic survey of northwest England, 2002-2007, or the Nordic Festival in 2008)

    Apologies if you get this message more than once!

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    Gmail – Vikingskip i England/Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester







    Gmail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Vikingskip i England/Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave’s Church in Chester





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:28 AM





    To:

    Per Gisle Galåen <Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no>



    Hei,

    ok, du er biblotekar ja.
    Jeg kjenner to ganske nyutdannede biblotekar-damer, fra HiO.
    Det er Siri Rognli Olsen, fra Ranheim, og hu har jeg anmeldt for voldtekt, for hu tulla fælt en helg i Oslo, i 1990, da hu skulle på Alarm-konsert, sammen med venninna, og jeg lot dem bo hos meg, på Abildsø.

    Hu andre, det er Marianne Høksaas, fra Risør vel, som er biblotekar på BI, tror jeg.
    Hu gikk med musesmå skritt, husker jeg, i høyhæla sko vel, og med rød strikk i håret, da hu var sjefen min, på Arvato sin skandinaviske Microsoft-aktivering, i Liverpool.

    Hu prata også høyt om boka Fatso, som var om en som bare satt hjemme og runka, som hu kringkasta, sånn at jeg hørte henne, fra et annet bord.
    Så de biblotekar-damene, de burde du passe deg for, de er noen uskikkelige damer, vil jeg si.

    Men men.
    Sorry at jeg tuller litt her, jeg er arbeidsledig i England, så jeg kjeder meg litt her.
    Jeg ser frem til å få hjelp til å grave opp det vikingskipet da, sånn at jeg får noe å gjøre.

    Igjen takk for svar!
    Det var visst en søstera mi kjente, som var på den kongsseteren, eller noe.
    Hu dro dit visst i helgene, tror jeg.
    Noe sånt.

    Rundt 1991 eller 92 kanskje.

    Men men.
    Jo, en ting til.
    Det er litt rart, at man må dele buss, med svette badegjester, til Huk, hvis man skal på museum på Bøgdøy.

    Kanskje noen blir flaue av å måtte sitte sammen med masse halvnakne ungdommer på bussen.
    Hva med å ha en egen museumsbuss?
    Bare et forslag.
    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Per Gisle Galåen <Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no> wrote:

    Hei igjen.

    Norsk Maritimt Museum er tidligere Norsk Sjøfartsmuseum, og vi

    ligger på Bygdøynes sammen med Framhuset og Kon-Tiki. Vikingskipshuset hører

    til under Kulturhistorisk museum, UIO.

    Lykke til!

    mvh,

    Per Gisle Galåen

    Bibliotekar

    ————————————————————

    Norsk Maritimt Museum

    Bygdøynesvn. 37

    0286 OSLO

    Tlf. 24 11 41 62 (dir.), faks 24 11 41 51

    per.gisle.galaen@marmuseum.no

    http://www.marmuseum.no

    ————————————————————

    Fra: Erik Ribsskog

    [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sendt: 3. desember 2010 11:38

    Til: Per Gisle Galåen

    Emne: Re: Vikingskip i England/Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St.

    Olave's Church in Chester

    Hei,

    ok, det var glimrende!

    Da bare venter jeg og ser om jeg får noe svar her.

    Jeg ser forresten at dere har adresse i Bygdøy.

    Er det vikingskipmuseet jeg har kommet til nå?

    (Det er noen år siden jeg var på museene uti der, da vi var

    på klassetur, med Svelvik Ungdomsskole.

    Men søstera mi, Pia Ribsskog, var visst mye ute på kongsgården der, den første

    tida hu bodde i Oslo.

    På Bygdøy, tror jeg, uten at jeg vet nøyaktig hva hu dreiv med der.

    Men men).

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Per Gisle Galåen <Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no>

    wrote:

    Hei Erik Ribsskog.

    Takk for henvendelsen. Jeg har

    videresendt e-posten din til leder for arkeologisk avdeling, Frode Kvalø, samt

    professor i nordisk arkeologi, Arne Emil Christensen. Jeg snakket med Frode

    Kvalø i går om dette, og han skulle ta en titt på saken. Han har e-post frode.kvalo@marmuseum.no

    mvh,

    Per Gisle Galåen

    NORSK MARITIMT MUSEUM

    ————————————————————

    Norsk Maritimt Museum

    Bygdøynesvn. 37

    0286 OSLO

    Tlf. 24 11 41 62 (dir.), faks 24 11 41 51

    per.gisle.galaen@marmuseum.no

    http://www.marmuseum.no

    ————————————————————

    Fra: Erik

    Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sendt: 2. desember 2010 16:11

    Til: SF_FellesPost

    Kopi: emb.london@mfa.no

    Emne: Vikingskip i England/Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St.

    Olave's Church in Chester

    Hei,

    Riksantikvaren har anbefalt meg, å kontakte blant annet dere og Kulturhistorisk

    museum, om dette.

    Men

    Kulturhistorisk museum svarer ikke, så jeg går videre.

    Det

    gjelder et flott klinkebygget vikinge-langskip, som ligger under

    parkeringsplassen, til en pub, i the Wirral, i England.

    Jeg har pratet med noen som jobber der, og har skrevet om dette på blogg,

    (etter å ha vært og sett på vikinghavnen i Meols, og fått tips om dette

    vikingskipet).

    Jeg har også vært på vikingkongress i Chester, og forklart om at det skipet

    burde tas opp av leira, for ingen kan jo se det under leire.

    Og

    det skipet er vel unikt, i England.

    Det

    burde vært på museum, og det var norske vikinger, som ble jaget fra Dublin, som

    slo seg ned på the Wirral.

    Og muligens også vikinger som kom dit rett fra Norge, dette er på vestkysten av

    England, og grenser til Irskesjøen, like ved Isle of Man osv., hvor de norske

    vikingene dro.



    dette langskipet burde vært i et museum, mener jeg.

    Men britene er visst mer opptatt av romersk arkeologi.

    Så jeg prøver å få tak i ekspertise, (og senere muligens midler), fra Norge.

    Britene er redd for at skipet vil råtne, hvis de graver det opp.

    Men

    i Norge, så har vi jo gravet opp mange vikingeskip, og de står i museer.

    Mens i England, så har de vel ingen andre vikinge/klinke-bygde skip.

    Jeg mener dette er norrøn kultur, siden skipet er klinkebygget.

    Kunne dere gitt råd om konservering/utgraving av skipet?

    En komite bestemte å ikke grave opp skipet, men det var forskere fra svenske

    universitet med på den beslutningen.

    Og svenske vikinger dro jo østover, så det virker rart, synes jeg, at svenske

    forskere skulle være med å ta beslutninger om et norsk vikingeskip.

    Men

    nå har jeg altså tatt opp dette temaet igjen, på viking-konferansen, i forrige

    måned, i Chester.

    Så nå burde det være mulig å begynne fra 'scratch', på et nytt prosjekt, som

    jeg har startet med da.

    Jeg

    kan kontakte puben igjen, og konverserer også med prosjektleder, på det forrige

    prosjektet, professor Stephen Harding, ved universitetet i Nottingham.

    Arkeologen, ved Liverpool National Museum, sa på konferansen, at hvis jeg

    skaffer midler, så kan han og museet grave opp skipet.

    Men han klagde på at det ville råtne, og var ekspert i romersk arkeologi, så om

    dere kunne gitt mer noe mer tilbakemeldinger her.

    For på the Wirral, så er det ingen store byer, det er jo et gammelt norsk

    vikingland, så det kunne kanskje vært artig fra Norges side, å bidra også, til

    en konstruktiv løsning på dette prosjektet?

    Det er jo snakk om felles kultur, mener jeg, og ingen er vel bedre kompetanse

    enn nordmenn, når det gjelder vikingskip?

    Håper dere kan komme med tilbakemelding på dette.

    Jeg

    tenker også på å kontakte ambassaden i London, om dette.

    Vi får se.

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———-

    Forwarded message ———-

    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:08 PM

    Subject: Re: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    well,

    I've supported Everton, since I was 7 years old, since my mother, Karen

    Ribsskog, who had been an au-pair, in the UK, said they were good.

    So

    I think it's enough to support one English football-team.

    But I think the Viking-stuff is fun.

    Everton

    is also a bit Norse, since it's from 'eofer', which means wild pig, in Old

    Norse, and 'ton', is the same as the Norwegian 'tun', which means area around

    the farm-house.

    I'm

    a refugee you see, and am busy trying to get my rights in Norway and in the UK.

    So

    I haven't got that much time.

    I have four blogs, and a website, that I run, where I write about my interests

    and more:

    And

    this is new site, that I'm working on now:

    I'm

    sorry they are in Norwegian, but I see you sometimes write a bit in Norwegian,

    like salutations etc.

    But

    I'm from Norway you know, and in Norway we need a bit time to get to know

    people.

    Since

    I'm from a small place in Norway, called Berger in Vestfold, in Svelvik

    municipality, (I've also lived in Larvik municipality).

    Thanks very much anyway!

    Best

    regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On

    Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    wrote:

    OK Erik

    Next time we will have Labskaus-scouse as we had for

    the book-launch for Ingimunds Saga back in 2001, which Trondheim sent their top

    people:

    https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve/BBCNW2_01.MPG

    If you ring me I can tell you more about what we are

    doing.

    What about supporting Tranmael? Our Viking team

    is playing Hartlepool tonight, kick off 7.45pm.

    Steve Harding




    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 23 November 2010 12:31

    Subject: Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's

    Church in Chester

    Hi

    again,

    so

    I have really started my own Viking-project here a bit. 🙂

    I just wanted to level with the Viking-congress, that was on Saturday, in

    Chester.

    But I'll update and level more, when I know more, from my contact with the

    experts in Norway.

    Hope this is alright, and sorry that I'm sending so much correspondence about

    this!

    Thanks again for the good food, on Saturday, even if it wasn't 'speke'-food, I

    still think it was good food with the chicken balti sandwiches etc.

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———-

    Forwarded message ———-

    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:15 PM

    Subject: Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk

    Hi,

    here

    is what the Riksantikvaren in Norway, wrote about the Vikingship on the Wirral,

    by the way:

    From: Haustveit, Gunvor <gunvor.haustveit@ra.no>

    Date: 2010/10/18

    Subject: Svar på spørsmål "hjelp med å grave opp vikingskip i England"

    To: eribsskog@gmail.com

    Hei og takk for

    e-post.

    Det er flere kompetansesentra og forskere som er

    dyktige på feltet

    om vikingskip. Anbefaler først og fremst: Kulturhistorisk museum med

    Vikingskipshuset, dernest Norsk Maritimt Museum og Norsk Institutt for

    kulturminneforskning. I Danmark er det kompetanse ved Roskilde museum.

    Lykke til!

    (Translates to:

    Hi and thanks for the e-mail.

    There are many competence-centers and

    scientists who are good at the field vikingships. I recomend first and

    foremost: Cultural-historical museum with the Vkingships-huset, then Norwegian

    Maritim Museum and Norwegian Institute for Cultural Heritage Science. In

    Denmark they have competence at Roskilde Museum.

    Good Luck!).

    (This was sent before I read about the

    project on your website, regarding this vikingship).

    Helsing

    Gunvor Haustveit

    Informasjonsseksjonen

    Riksantikvaren

    Postboks 8196 Dep

    0034 Oslo

    Tlf: + 47 98 20 27 60

    www.riksantikvaren.no

    ———-

    Forwarded message ———-

    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:15 AM

    Subject: Re: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    To:

    Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    yes,

    but if they have vikingships on museums in Norway, they are also made of wood,

    and they don't decay.

    They even have Vikingship-museums in Northern Germany, that used to be southern

    Denmark, as far as I remember.

    I've

    heard that the vikingship is under the _parking-lot_ of the pub, (like I said

    on the congress).

    But I have contacted, (like I wrote), the University of Oslo,

    cultural-historical museum, both before and after the congress, and I hope to

    hear back from them soon.

    I

    just went to Meols, to look at the old Viking-harbour, you see, just to get

    some fresh air, since I live in the City Centre of Liverpool.

    And then I asked one of the 'natives' about where the viking harbour was, and

    he also told me, that there was a viking ship, under the pub there.

    And then I went to the pub, the Railway Inn, and spoke with the staff there, (a

    woman in her 20's, I think, who almost looked Norwegian, I think).

    And

    she showed me that there was newspaper-articles on the wall, in the big pub,

    and pictures of a viking longship, etc.

    I promised I'd write about this on my blog, so that people in Norway could read

    about it.

    Then

    I contacted University of Oslo.

    But then, later, I read about your desition, to leave the ship under the clay.

    But then, I saw that you had asked universities in Gothenburg and Stockhome for

    advise.

    And I don't understand why you ask Swedish universities for advise, regarding

    Norwegian vikingships.

    Because the Swedes went east.

    And the Norwegians went to the Irish Sea, etc.

    The Swedish Vikings didn't go to England and the Irish Sea, they went to Russia

    etc, in the east.

    So I thought that project was a bit strange, why involve Swedish universities

    in this?

    Since there is a rivalary between Sweden and Norway, after many wars, from the

    Viking-time and up to modern history.

    So

    that made me a bit sceptical, to that project, when I saw that many Swedish

    universities were involved.

    My reflex, since I am from Norway, would be not to let Swedes be to much

    involved in a Norwegian/(Irish) Viking-project.

    But anyway.

    But

    I have contacted the University of Oslo, cultur-historical museum about this,

    who the 'riksantikvaren', in Norway, refered me to.

    So I'm just waiting to get an answer from them.

    And then I'll contact you when and if I hear something back from them.

    Hope

    this is alright!

    Thank

    you very much for your replies, and sorry that I was a bit late for the

    congress, I just missed the Chester-train, and then I had to take the next

    train, for Port Ellismere, and change for Chester, so then I was delayed.

    This

    is mostly because I'm from Norway, that I'm interested in the congress and the

    Viking-places on the Wirral, because in Norway, this is almost like general

    knowledge, that we learn about on school etc., so this with Viking-stuff is

    almost the only thing we take serious in Norway, (except from skiing).

    (Only

    joking).

    But that's why I'm so interested in this.

    Thanks

    again for the reply to my e-mail!

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On

    Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    wrote:

    Dear Erik

    I was part of the team that

    did the Ground Penetrating Radar studies 3 years ago that appeared to verify the

    existence of the old vessel and we did discuss this in detail with the people

    in Oslo – Arne Christiansen and Knut Paasche of the skiphuset Bygdoy. The

    Chair of the afternoon session was Dr. David Griffiths, distinguished Viking

    Archaeologist from Oxford, born and brought up in Heswall and like myself a

    passionate Wirralian – as he explained in his talk. All 3 of us – Rob

    Philpott, David and myself are in total agreement as to the situation about the

    boat. Unfortunately you can’t just go down and expose the boat as the old wood

    would decay rapidly: this would be very irresponsible!. Its underneath a

    pub and near a major road so unless we can find an estimated 8-10 million

    pounds, we have to leave it where it is. Then when we have the money lets

    go for it! To repeat what Rob has said, if you have any ideas where we

    can get this money, let us know. Believe me we would dearly love to have

    this excavated but it just can’t be done at the moment. However we are

    going to have a meeting soon but I can’t see – without the money – much else we

    can do at the momentThe Friends of Meols Park organisation are having trouble

    trying to raise £40,000 for a statue of Ingimund for Meols Park, again if you

    have any ideas for funds that would be great.

    Nottingham involvement:

    The organizers of the

    conference were Liz Royles and myself. Liz: is Keeper of early

    archaeology at the Grosvenor Museum at Chester – and was born and brought up

    from Meols. Liz did a tremendous job putting on the exhibition and obtaining

    the grants so that everyone could attend for free – and even have free

    refreshments.

    Myself: Indeed I am now at

    the University of Nottingham but was born and brought up in Wirral – near Meols

    and then Wallasey, and come from 2 very old Wirral families that go back at

    least several hundred years, and very proud of this – if you have a chance

    please look at my website

    even Tranmere – Tranmael – my

    team, has a Norwegian name:

    http://trsn.blogspot.com/

    it would be great if you

    could join us!

    I have just written another

    book with Liverpool FC fan Stig Vaagan from Hamar – det Norske Liverpool –
    Vikinger, DNA og Nåtid, which

    will be published soon in Norway, which includes a lot about the Scandinavian

    Church on Park Lane: do you know these people there.

    I have also secured an

    agreement from the people re-constructing the “Drakken” ship of Harald Harfagre

    for it to sail to Liverpool and Wirral in 2012/2013 after the boat is complete

    and indeed have been trying very hard for the last 10 years to develop the

    whole areas Viking Heritage.

    What about meeting up for a

    beer sometime and we can discuss the boat?

    All the best

    Steve Harding

    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 23 November 2010 04:11

    To: Stephen Harding

    Subject: Re: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in

    Chester

    Hi,

    I wasn't aware of that there were boats in

    clay in Scandinavia.

    But, like I wrote in the earlier e-mail, in Scandinavia, we have a lot of ships

    in museums from before.

    And they had made 46 trenches in Irby, and

    none in Meols, even if Meols is more Norse/Viking, Irby means town of the

    Irishmen.

    So I question the priorities here, and as

    I wrote, and updated the congress about, I have contacted the University of

    Oslo, about this.

    So I was mostly summarising, what I said on the congress.

    Further, to my complaint.

    I think what happened after lunch, distroyed the congress.

    The chair from University of Chester was

    ill, and a new chair, from Nottingham, was a reserve.

    I remember it like you only mentioned his firstname, briefly before the congress

    started again, after lunch.

    And his field wasn't mentioned I think.

    I understood this to be a national Viking congress, and not a Nottingham one.

    So noone knew who this guy was or what his

    field was, (the new chair).

    He was a reserve, and should have toned himself down, I think, due to this, and

    due to that his name and field wasn't mentioned in the agenda.

    So I think this distroyed the congress a

    bit, I'm sorry to say, because the new chair went directly in, with facts, or

    'facts', from Scandinavia, all the time.

    Without saying e.g. that the ship was in Gothenburg, he just said

    'Scandinavia'.

    And with 't' becomming 'd', like the young chair said was usual in Scandinavia.

    I think that is in Germany, that 't' becomes 'd', like in 'Donerstag' instead

    of 'Thursday'.

    So my experience of the congress was distroyed by this new chair, I have to

    admit, so I wanted to complain about the congress.

    I also think it's strange that all this Viking-stuff on the Wirral should be

    run from Nottingham.

    I think one should have a centre in the

    Wirral or Chester or Isle of Man, to do with the Norwegian Vikings.

    Because the Norwegian Vikings weren't in Nottingham I think.

    I think a local university, which is located geografically, in what was

    Norwegian Viking-territory, in the UK, should 'run the show' on this.

    I think Nottingham was south of were the Norwegian Vikings lived, in the UK.

    I think the Wirral was obviously a Norwegian Viking-land.

    Why don't the Wirral run the show on this?

    Why is the Wirral Viking-stuff run from Nottingham, (and Chester).

    Maybe Chester would be logical, but was

    has Nottingham to do with Norweigan Vikings in the Wirral?

    This sounds strange to me.

    Also, I think one should have a specialist in Viking-archology, digging up the

    Viking-stuff on the Wirral, because the professor from National Museum

    Liverpool, in a specialist in Roman and 'later' archeology.

    And he explained that he thought something was roman, and then someone else

    came and said that bird-figure for a weight, was viking.

    I don't think this is taken seriously enough.

    Look at the Roman arcahology, with the Circus etc, in Chester.

    You say it isn't proven the Viking-ship in Meols is Viking.

    But it is 'klinke'-buildt, which means it's Norse.

    So I think you try to make this unclear, the ships origin, it definately

    Viking/Norse, and not anything else.

    So I question really the whole congress and you at Nottinghams motivation.

    I understand that University of Oslo or

    University of Trondheim didn't send any people, it's probably because they

    didn't feel welcome.

    Sorry that I think I have to write this direct to put it strange.

    But there wasn't much viking about that congress I think.

    Then it should have been served beer/ale

    and not wine.

    And 'speke'-food, and not Pakistani samosa-food.

    This was not a Norse Viking-congress I think.

    Sorry to say!

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Stephen

    Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    wrote:

    Thanks

    Erik, yes we thoroughly enjoyed the congress, everyone seemed so enthusiastic …

    and it was great having a Norwegian at the conference. The books on sale were

    Vikings in the Irish Sea (Dr. David Griffiths), Irby (Dr. Rob Philpott) and

    Viking DNA (by Turi King, Mark Jobling and myself).

    Thanks

    for modern dynge = heap, but I will check with Dr. Paul Cavill to see if this

    can help. Dingesmere: there are some links to this and Brunanburh on my

    own Viking page http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

    Boat:

    yes we’d all love to get this out, but as Dr. Philpott said it would cost

    8-10Million to achieve, but the boat is perfectly safe in the blue clay until

    that time comes.. which may not be for a long time. We don’t know its

    Viking, all we know its very old! There are I think boats in blue clay in

    Scandinavia – one in Karmoy and one near Gothenburg which have been left for

    the foreseeable future. If there are any developments with Wirral we’ll

    be sure to let you know,

    Hope

    this helps!

    Beste

    hilsener

    Steve

    Harding

    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 21 November 2010 07:24

    Subject: Viking-congress

    in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    Hi,

    thanks for arranging the Viking-congress,

    which I thought was a very fun idea!

    I was just wondering, who was the chair,

    after lunch again, (the young man in his 30's with a beard on his chin or under

    his mouth, or what it's called).

    Because I thought he was a bit 'on' me.

    The one who replaced the professor from

    Chester who was ill.

    I've also sendt to the professer from

    National Museums Liverpool and cultural historical museum Oslo University

    again, about possible founding or expertice from Norway, for the vikingship in

    Meols, which I brought up about, yesterday, on the congress, after the

    professor from National Museums Liverpool spoke about the archeolology in Irby.

    Also, I tried to explain about my

    contributing regardin the subject of Dingesmere, to do with the big battle

    between the Vikings and the English, on the Wirral.

    In Norwegian, 'dynge' means 'heap'.

    And I thought that could be relevant, since Norwegian and English once were the

    same language.

    The young chair was an expert on Scandinavia, (which I'm not I'm just a normal

    Norwegian, but I've worked on a viking-farm in Norway, actually, Løvås farm in

    Kvelde, (where someone tried to murder me, i 2005, so I went to Liverpool, and

    the police wont investigate).

    The young chair said that in Scandinavia

    't' often became 'd'.

    (This I don't know myself from being Norwegian, even if I one term at

    high-school got the best grade, 'S', in Norwegian).

    The young chair also said that vikingships

    in Norway weren't always dug up.

    But, in Norway, we have many vikingship,

    in several musums, (like in Denmark etc).

    But in the Wirral/North-England, you

    haven't got a single vikingship which had been dug up.

    So if it's right that we have ships like that, under clay, in Norway, then at

    least we have some vikingships which we have put in the museum first.

    E.g. the Vikingship Museum in Bygdøy, in Oslo.

    Also, I thought I had to 'argue' with two

    people at the same time, when I spoke.

    Because the young chair, interrupted, my dialog with the two professors, I

    thought a bit.

    So that's why I left before the book-launch, because I was a bit disapointed in

    the young chairs behavour.

    So I was just a bit currious, who the young chair was again.

    Because his name wasn't mentioned on the agenda, since the initial chair, after

    lunch, the professor from University of Chester, was ill, if I understood you

    right, when you briefly spoke, after lunch, yesterday.

    Thank you very much in advance for any

    reply!

    And thanks again for holding the

    Viking-congress, which was very fun, and the Viking-exhibition, at the

    Grosvenor Museum, in Chester, was also very fine I think!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-

    From: Steve Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Date: Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:31 AM

    Subject: RE: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    To: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Dear Erik

    Many thanks for your email. I will

    write a more detailed reply later but I thought I'd better point out that the

    present St. Olave's building is of course not the original but is probably on

    the site of an original building which may have been wooden – we

    don't know. It is in the southern part the city which we

    believe to be the Scandinavian part of Chester in the 10th Century (and includes

    the discovery site of a viking treasure hoard at Castle Esplanade and some

    timber constructions similar to those in Dublin). The main area of Norse

    settlement in the area was in Wirral where there is extensive place name,

    archaeological and historical evidence, including 2 hogback tombstones.

    If you get a chance have a look at my

    website

    http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

    and its links, but I will write back to

    you more when I have some more time,

    Beste sommerhilsener

    Steve Harding

    http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

    steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk

    Tel: +44(0) 115 951 6148 (fax 6142)

    Mob: +44(0) 78110 90635




    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 19 July 2009 19:25

    To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk

    Subject: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    Hi,

    I'm from Norway, but I live in Liverpool, and

    the other day, I was in Chester, and I coinsidentily

    stubled upon, the St. Olave's Church,

    since I thought I had to see a bit of the other towns and

    cities, in the North-West, and not only

    Liverpool.

    I took some pictures of the church, and

    posted on my blog.

    From the 'sign' there, it could seem like the church was from the 18th century,

    so much was

    my surprice, when I searched on the

    internet, and found, that the chuch was almost a thousand

    years old, built by Norwegian Vikings who

    were refugees from Dublin, since they lost control there,

    it seems to me, after reading on the

    internet about this.

    I read on a blog called 'Ainscough Family

    History', which I found throug Google, about the 'Viking

    march', between the Wirral and Chester.

    So I wrote a comment on that blog, with

    questions about the St. Olave's Church, and was adviced

    to contact you.

    I was just wondering if the church is listed, since I don't think we have that

    old viking stone-

    buildings in Norway.

    We have 'stav'-churches, in three, but I don't think we have any

    stone-buildings, that are this old.

    So, I was just curious about this.

    I also wondered if there had been conflicts between the St. Olave's Parish and

    the St. Michaels

    Parish, since on one building, 'Nine

    Houses', the borded between the parishes, was written on

    the buildings facade.

    And, I was also wondering, why it isn't a

    plaque there, explaining about, that the church is almost

    a thousand years old, built by Vikings

    from Ireland, because the plaque that's there now, makes

    it almost seem, that the building was

    built much later, or, it only least the year the church was

    conserved, in the 18th century, I think it

    was.

    As I understand, all the part of Chester,

    from the main street, and down to river, used to be

    a Viking-district.

    I was wondering, on some of the half

    timbered houses, I saw some symbols that looked a bit

    like what we call 'firkløver', that's

    four-cleaver, I think, in English, could these symbols have

    been from Norway, or are they English, since

    I heard that these black and white half-timbered

    houses are 'Tudor-style', so I guess that

    the Vikings, in Chester, would have other types of

    buildings, that was there, before the

    Tudor-style buildings,contemporary with the St. Olave's

    Church?

    Sorry that I'm asking a lot of questions,

    I understand if you haven't got the time to answer any

    of these questions.

    I just coincidentaly notices this church, when I was in Chester, and thought it

    was fun, to see

    place-names, and buildings, named after a Norwegian

    king, that we learned about at school,

    in Norway.

    And at school, in Norway, we, as far as I remember, only learned about that

    York, or 'Jorvik',

    like the Vikings called the town or city,

    was a Norwegian Viking-town or city.

    But we didn't learn about, that there were viking setlements, in Cheshire and

    Merseyside.

    So I wasn't aware of, that there was Viking-buildings, in Chester, when I went

    there, so I was

    a bit surprised to see the church, and

    read about it on the internet, so that was very fun.

    I thought that maybe this church, could be

    one of the few buildings etc,. that remained,

    after the Vikings, that had to leave

    Ireland.

    In Norway, we learn at school, that Vikings founded Dublin etc., but we don't

    learn that

    they went to England, after they lost

    control in Ireland, so this was fun to learn.

    So sorry again that I'm asking a lot of questions, and thanks in advance, if

    you have the

    time to explain about any of the questions

    which I've ask!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

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    Vikingskip i England/Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave’s Church in Chester





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:37 AM





    To:

    Per Gisle Galåen <Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no>



    Hei,

    ok, det var glimrende!
    Da bare venter jeg og ser om jeg får noe svar her.
    Jeg ser forresten at dere har adresse i Bygdøy.
    Er det vikingskipmuseet jeg har kommet til nå?

    (Det er noen år siden jeg var på museene uti der, da vi var på klassetur, med Svelvik Ungdomsskole.
    Men søstera mi, Pia Ribsskog, var visst mye ute på kongsgården der, den første tida hu bodde i Oslo.

    På Bygdøy, tror jeg, uten at jeg vet nøyaktig hva hu dreiv med der.
    Men men).
    Mvh.
    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Per Gisle Galåen <Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no> wrote:

    Hei Erik Ribsskog.

    Takk for henvendelsen. Jeg har videresendt e-posten din til

    leder for arkeologisk avdeling, Frode Kvalø, samt professor i nordisk

    arkeologi, Arne Emil Christensen. Jeg snakket med Frode Kvalø i går om dette,

    og han skulle ta en titt på saken. Han har e-post frode.kvalo@marmuseum.no

    mvh,

    Per Gisle Galåen

    NORSK MARITIMT MUSEUM

    ————————————————————

    Norsk Maritimt Museum

    Bygdøynesvn. 37

    0286 OSLO

    Tlf. 24 11 41 62 (dir.), faks 24 11 41 51

    per.gisle.galaen@marmuseum.no

    http://www.marmuseum.no

    ————————————————————

    Fra: Erik Ribsskog

    [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sendt: 2. desember 2010 16:11

    Til: SF_FellesPost

    Kopi: emb.london@mfa.no

    Emne: Vikingskip i England/Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St.

    Olave's Church in Chester

    Hei,

    Riksantikvaren har anbefalt meg, å kontakte blant annet dere og Kulturhistorisk

    museum, om dette.

    Men Kulturhistorisk museum svarer ikke, så jeg går videre.

    Det gjelder et flott klinkebygget vikinge-langskip, som

    ligger under parkeringsplassen, til en pub, i the Wirral, i England.

    Jeg har pratet med noen som jobber der, og har skrevet om dette på blogg,

    (etter å ha vært og sett på vikinghavnen i Meols, og fått tips om dette

    vikingskipet).

    Jeg har også vært på vikingkongress i Chester, og forklart om at det skipet

    burde tas opp av leira, for ingen kan jo se det under leire.

    Og det skipet er vel unikt, i England.

    Det burde vært på museum, og det var norske vikinger, som

    ble jaget fra Dublin, som slo seg ned på the Wirral.

    Og muligens også vikinger som kom dit rett fra Norge, dette er på vestkysten av

    England, og grenser til Irskesjøen, like ved Isle of Man osv., hvor de norske

    vikingene dro.

    Så dette langskipet burde vært i et museum, mener jeg.

    Men britene er visst mer opptatt av romersk arkeologi.

    Så jeg prøver å få tak i ekspertise, (og senere muligens midler), fra Norge.

    Britene er redd for at skipet vil råtne, hvis de graver det opp.

    Men i Norge, så har vi jo gravet opp mange vikingeskip, og

    de står i museer.

    Mens i England, så har de vel ingen andre vikinge/klinke-bygde skip.

    Jeg mener dette er norrøn kultur, siden skipet er klinkebygget.

    Kunne dere gitt råd om konservering/utgraving av skipet?

    En komite bestemte å ikke grave opp skipet, men det var forskere fra svenske

    universitet med på den beslutningen.

    Og svenske vikinger dro jo østover, så det virker rart, synes jeg, at svenske

    forskere skulle være med å ta beslutninger om et norsk vikingeskip.

    Men nå har jeg altså tatt opp dette temaet igjen, på

    viking-konferansen, i forrige måned, i Chester.

    Så nå burde det være mulig å begynne fra 'scratch', på et nytt prosjekt, som

    jeg har startet med da.

    Jeg kan kontakte puben igjen, og konverserer også med

    prosjektleder, på det forrige prosjektet, professor Stephen Harding, ved

    universitetet i Nottingham.

    Arkeologen, ved Liverpool National Museum, sa på konferansen, at hvis jeg

    skaffer midler, så kan han og museet grave opp skipet.

    Men han klagde på at det ville råtne, og var ekspert i romersk arkeologi, så om

    dere kunne gitt mer noe mer tilbakemeldinger her.

    For på the Wirral, så er det ingen store byer, det er jo et gammelt norsk

    vikingland, så det kunne kanskje vært artig fra Norges side, å bidra også, til

    en konstruktiv løsning på dette prosjektet?

    Det er jo snakk om felles kultur, mener jeg, og ingen er vel bedre kompetanse

    enn nordmenn, når det gjelder vikingskip?

    Håper dere kan komme med tilbakemelding på dette.

    Jeg tenker også på å kontakte ambassaden i London, om dette.

    Vi får se.

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-

    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:08 PM

    Subject: Re: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    well, I've supported Everton, since I was 7 years old, since

    my mother, Karen Ribsskog, who had been an au-pair, in the UK, said they were

    good.

    So I think it's enough to support one English football-team.

    But I think the Viking-stuff is fun.

    Everton is also a bit Norse, since it's from 'eofer', which

    means wild pig, in Old Norse, and 'ton', is the same as the Norwegian 'tun',

    which means area around the farm-house.

    I'm a refugee you see, and am busy trying to get my rights

    in Norway and in the UK.

    So I haven't got that much time.

    I have four blogs, and a website, that I run, where I write about my interests

    and more:

    And this is new site, that I'm working on now:

    I'm sorry they are in Norwegian, but I see you sometimes

    write a bit in Norwegian, like salutations etc.

    But I'm from Norway you know, and in Norway we need a bit

    time to get to know people.

    Since I'm from a small place in Norway, called Berger in

    Vestfold, in Svelvik municipality, (I've also lived in Larvik municipality).

    Thanks very much anyway!

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    wrote:

    OK

    Erik

    Next

    time we will have Labskaus-scouse as we had for the book-launch for Ingimunds

    Saga back in 2001, which Trondheim sent their top people:

    https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve/BBCNW2_01.MPG

    If

    you ring me I can tell you more about what we are doing.

    What

    about supporting Tranmael? Our Viking team is playing Hartlepool tonight,

    kick off 7.45pm.

    Steve

    Harding




    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 23 November 2010 12:31

    Subject: Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd:

    St. Olave's Church in Chester

    Hi again,

    so I have really started my own Viking-project here a bit.

    🙂

    I just wanted to level with the Viking-congress, that was on Saturday, in

    Chester.

    But I'll update and level more, when I know more, from my contact with the

    experts in Norway.

    Hope this is alright, and sorry that I'm sending so much correspondence about

    this!

    Thanks again for the good food, on Saturday, even if it wasn't 'speke'-food, I

    still think it was good food with the chicken balti sandwiches etc.

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-

    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:15 PM

    Subject: Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk

    Hi,

    here is what the Riksantikvaren in Norway, wrote about the

    Vikingship on the Wirral, by the way:

    From: Haustveit,

    Gunvor
    <gunvor.haustveit@ra.no>

    Date:

    2010/10/18

    Subject: Svar på spørsmål "hjelp med å grave opp vikingskip i

    England"

    To: eribsskog@gmail.com

    Hei

    og takk for

    e-post.

    Det

    er flere kompetansesentra og forskere som er dyktige på feltet

    om vikingskip. Anbefaler først og fremst: Kulturhistorisk museum med

    Vikingskipshuset, dernest Norsk Maritimt Museum og Norsk Institutt for

    kulturminneforskning. I Danmark er det kompetanse ved Roskilde museum.

    Lykke

    til!

    (Translates to:

    Hi and thanks

    for the e-mail.

    There are many

    competence-centers and scientists who are good at the field vikingships. I

    recomend first and foremost: Cultural-historical museum with the

    Vkingships-huset, then Norwegian Maritim Museum and Norwegian Institute for

    Cultural Heritage Science. In Denmark they have competence at Roskilde Museum.

    Good Luck!).

    (This was sent

    before I read about the project on your website, regarding this vikingship).

    Helsing

    Gunvor

    Haustveit

    Informasjonsseksjonen

    Riksantikvaren

    Postboks

    8196 Dep

    0034

    Oslo

    Tlf:

    + 47 98 20 27 60

    www.riksantikvaren.no

    ———- Forwarded message ———-

    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:15 AM

    Subject: Re: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    yes, but if they have vikingships on museums in Norway, they

    are also made of wood, and they don't decay.

    They even have Vikingship-museums in Northern Germany, that used to be southern

    Denmark, as far as I remember.

    I've heard that the vikingship is under the _parking-lot_ of

    the pub, (like I said on the congress).

    But I have contacted, (like I wrote), the University of Oslo,

    cultural-historical museum, both before and after the congress, and I hope to

    hear back from them soon.

    I just went to Meols, to look at the old Viking-harbour, you

    see, just to get some fresh air, since I live in the City Centre of Liverpool.

    And then I asked one of the 'natives' about where the viking harbour was, and

    he also told me, that there was a viking ship, under the pub there.

    And then I went to the pub, the Railway Inn, and spoke with the staff there, (a

    woman in her 20's, I think, who almost looked Norwegian, I think).

    And she showed me that there was newspaper-articles on the

    wall, in the big pub, and pictures of a viking longship, etc.

    I promised I'd write about this on my blog, so that people in Norway could read

    about it.

    Then I contacted University of Oslo.

    But then, later, I read about your desition, to leave the ship under the clay.

    But then, I saw that you had asked universities in Gothenburg and Stockhome for

    advise.

    And I don't understand why you ask Swedish universities for advise, regarding

    Norwegian vikingships.

    Because the Swedes went east.

    And the Norwegians went to the Irish Sea, etc.

    The Swedish Vikings didn't go to England and the Irish Sea, they went to Russia

    etc, in the east.

    So I thought that project was a bit strange, why involve Swedish universities

    in this?

    Since there is a rivalary between Sweden and Norway, after many wars, from the

    Viking-time and up to modern history.

    So that made me a bit sceptical, to that project, when I saw

    that many Swedish universities were involved.

    My reflex, since I am from Norway, would be not to let Swedes be to much

    involved in a Norwegian/(Irish) Viking-project.

    But anyway.

    But I have contacted the University of Oslo,

    cultur-historical museum about this, who the 'riksantikvaren', in Norway,

    refered me to.

    So I'm just waiting to get an answer from them.

    And then I'll contact you when and if I hear something back from them.

    Hope this is alright!

    Thank you very much for your replies, and sorry that I was a

    bit late for the congress, I just missed the Chester-train, and then I had to

    take the next train, for Port Ellismere, and change for Chester, so then I was

    delayed.

    This is mostly because I'm from Norway, that I'm interested

    in the congress and the Viking-places on the Wirral, because in Norway, this is

    almost like general knowledge, that we learn about on school etc., so this with

    Viking-stuff is almost the only thing we take serious in Norway, (except from

    skiing).

    (Only joking).

    But that's why I'm so interested in this.

    Thanks again for the reply to my e-mail!

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    wrote:

    Dear Erik

    I was part of the team that

    did the Ground Penetrating Radar studies 3 years ago that appeared to verify

    the existence of the old vessel and we did discuss this in detail with the

    people in Oslo – Arne Christiansen and Knut Paasche of the skiphuset

    Bygdoy. The Chair of the afternoon session was Dr. David Griffiths,

    distinguished Viking Archaeologist from Oxford, born and brought up in Heswall

    and like myself a passionate Wirralian – as he explained in his

    talk. All 3 of us – Rob Philpott, David and myself are in total

    agreement as to the situation about the boat. Unfortunately you can’t

    just go down and expose the boat as the old wood would decay rapidly: this

    would be very irresponsible!. Its underneath a pub and near a major road

    so unless we can find an estimated 8-10 million pounds, we have to leave it

    where it is. Then when we have the money lets go for it! To repeat

    what Rob has said, if you have any ideas where we can get this money, let us

    know. Believe me we would dearly love to have this excavated but it just

    can’t be done at the moment. However we are going to have a meeting

    soon but I can’t see – without the money – much else we can do at

    the momentThe Friends of Meols Park organisation are having trouble trying to

    raise £40,000 for a statue of Ingimund for Meols Park, again if you have any

    ideas for funds that would be great.

    Nottingham involvement:

    The organizers of the

    conference were Liz Royles and myself. Liz: is Keeper of early

    archaeology at the Grosvenor Museum at Chester – and was born and brought up

    from Meols. Liz did a tremendous job putting on the exhibition and obtaining

    the grants so that everyone could attend for free – and even have free

    refreshments.

    Myself: Indeed I am now at

    the University of Nottingham but was born and brought up in Wirral – near

    Meols and then Wallasey, and come from 2 very old Wirral families that go back

    at least several hundred years, and very proud of this – if you have a

    chance please look at my website

    even Tranmere –

    Tranmael – my team, has a Norwegian name:

    http://trsn.blogspot.com/

    it would be great if you

    could join us!

    I have just written another

    book with Liverpool FC fan Stig Vaagan from Hamar – det Norske Liverpool

    Vikinger, DNA

    og Nåtid, which will be published soon in Norway, which includes a lot about

    the Scandinavian Church on Park Lane: do you know these people there.

    I have also secured an

    agreement from the people re-constructing the “Drakken” ship of

    Harald Harfagre for it to sail to Liverpool and Wirral in 2012/2013 after the

    boat is complete and indeed have been trying very hard for the last 10 years to

    develop the whole areas Viking Heritage.

    What about meeting up for a

    beer sometime and we can discuss the boat?

    All the best

    Steve Harding

    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 23 November 2010 04:11

    To: Stephen Harding

    Subject: Re: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in

    Chester

    Hi,

    I wasn't aware of that there were boats in

    clay in Scandinavia.

    But, like I wrote in the earlier e-mail, in Scandinavia, we have a lot of ships

    in museums from before.

    And they had made 46 trenches in Irby, and

    none in Meols, even if Meols is more Norse/Viking, Irby means town of the

    Irishmen.

    So I question the priorities here, and as

    I wrote, and updated the congress about, I have contacted the University of

    Oslo, about this.

    So I was mostly summarising, what I said on the congress.

    Further, to my complaint.

    I think what happened after lunch, distroyed the congress.

    The chair from University of Chester was

    ill, and a new chair, from Nottingham, was a reserve.

    I remember it like you only mentioned his firstname, briefly before the

    congress started again, after lunch.

    And his field wasn't mentioned I think.

    I understood this to be a national Viking congress, and not a Nottingham one.

    So noone knew who this guy was or what his

    field was, (the new chair).

    He was a reserve, and should have toned himself down, I think, due to this, and

    due to that his name and field wasn't mentioned in the agenda.

    So I think this distroyed the congress a

    bit, I'm sorry to say, because the new chair went directly in, with facts, or

    'facts', from Scandinavia, all the time.

    Without saying e.g. that the ship was in Gothenburg, he just said

    'Scandinavia'.

    And with 't' becomming 'd', like the young chair said was usual in Scandinavia.

    I think that is in Germany, that 't' becomes 'd', like in 'Donerstag' instead

    of 'Thursday'.

    So my experience of the congress was distroyed by this new chair, I have to

    admit, so I wanted to complain about the congress.

    I also think it's strange that all this Viking-stuff on the Wirral should be

    run from Nottingham.

    I think one should have a centre in the

    Wirral or Chester or Isle of Man, to do with the Norwegian Vikings.

    Because the Norwegian Vikings weren't in Nottingham I think.

    I think a local university, which is located geografically, in what was

    Norwegian Viking-territory, in the UK, should 'run the show' on this.

    I think Nottingham was south of were the Norwegian Vikings lived, in the UK.

    I think the Wirral was obviously a Norwegian Viking-land.

    Why don't the Wirral run the show on this?

    Why is the Wirral Viking-stuff run from Nottingham, (and Chester).

    Maybe Chester would be logical, but was

    has Nottingham to do with Norweigan Vikings in the Wirral?

    This sounds strange to me.

    Also, I think one should have a specialist in Viking-archology, digging up the

    Viking-stuff on the Wirral, because the professor from National Museum

    Liverpool, in a specialist in Roman and 'later' archeology.

    And he explained that he thought something was roman, and then someone else

    came and said that bird-figure for a weight, was viking.

    I don't think this is taken seriously enough.

    Look at the Roman arcahology, with the Circus etc, in Chester.

    You say it isn't proven the Viking-ship in Meols is Viking.

    But it is 'klinke'-buildt, which means it's Norse.

    So I think you try to make this unclear, the ships origin, it definately

    Viking/Norse, and not anything else.

    So I question really the whole congress and you at Nottinghams motivation.

    I understand that University of Oslo or

    University of Trondheim didn't send any people, it's probably because they

    didn't feel welcome.

    Sorry that I think I have to write this direct to put it strange.

    But there wasn't much viking about that congress I think.

    Then it should have been served beer/ale

    and not wine.

    And 'speke'-food, and not Pakistani samosa-food.

    This was not a Norse Viking-congress I think.

    Sorry to say!

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Stephen

    Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    wrote:

    Thanks

    Erik, yes we thoroughly enjoyed the congress, everyone seemed so enthusiastic

    … and it was great having a Norwegian at the conference. The books on

    sale were Vikings in the Irish Sea (Dr. David Griffiths), Irby (Dr. Rob

    Philpott) and Viking DNA (by Turi King, Mark Jobling and myself).

    Thanks

    for modern dynge = heap, but I will check with Dr. Paul Cavill to see if this

    can help. Dingesmere: there are some links to this and Brunanburh on my

    own Viking page http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

    Boat:

    yes we’d all love to get this out, but as Dr. Philpott said it would cost

    8-10Million to achieve, but the boat is perfectly safe in the blue clay until

    that time comes.. which may not be for a long time. We don’t know

    its Viking, all we know its very old! There are I think boats in blue clay in

    Scandinavia – one in Karmoy and one near Gothenburg which have been left

    for the foreseeable future. If there are any developments with Wirral

    we’ll be sure to let you know,

    Hope

    this helps!

    Beste

    hilsener

    Steve

    Harding

    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 21 November 2010 07:24

    Subject:

    Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    Hi,

    thanks for arranging the Viking-congress,

    which I thought was a very fun idea!

    I was just wondering, who was the chair,

    after lunch again, (the young man in his 30's with a beard on his chin or under

    his mouth, or what it's called).

    Because I thought he was a bit 'on' me.

    The one who replaced the professor from

    Chester who was ill.

    I've also sendt to the professer from

    National Museums Liverpool and cultural historical museum Oslo University

    again, about possible founding or expertice from Norway, for the vikingship in

    Meols, which I brought up about, yesterday, on the congress, after the

    professor from National Museums Liverpool spoke about the archeolology in Irby.

    Also, I tried to explain about my

    contributing regardin the subject of Dingesmere, to do with the big battle

    between the Vikings and the English, on the Wirral.

    In Norwegian, 'dynge' means 'heap'.

    And I thought that could be relevant, since Norwegian and English once were the

    same language.

    The young chair was an expert on Scandinavia, (which I'm not I'm just a normal

    Norwegian, but I've worked on a viking-farm in Norway, actually, Løvås farm in

    Kvelde, (where someone tried to murder me, i 2005, so I went to Liverpool, and

    the police wont investigate).

    The young chair said that in Scandinavia

    't' often became 'd'.

    (This I don't know myself from being Norwegian, even if I one term at

    high-school got the best grade, 'S', in Norwegian).

    The young chair also said that vikingships

    in Norway weren't always dug up.

    But, in Norway, we have many vikingship,

    in several musums, (like in Denmark etc).

    But in the Wirral/North-England, you

    haven't got a single vikingship which had been dug up.

    So if it's right that we have ships like that, under clay, in Norway, then at

    least we have some vikingships which we have put in the museum first.

    E.g. the Vikingship Museum in Bygdøy, in Oslo.

    Also, I thought I had to 'argue' with two

    people at the same time, when I spoke.

    Because the young chair, interrupted, my dialog with the two professors, I

    thought a bit.

    So that's why I left before the book-launch, because I was a bit disapointed in

    the young chairs behavour.

    So I was just a bit currious, who the young chair was again.

    Because his name wasn't mentioned on the agenda, since the initial chair, after

    lunch, the professor from University of Chester, was ill, if I understood you

    right, when you briefly spoke, after lunch, yesterday.

    Thank you very much in advance for any

    reply!

    And thanks again for holding the

    Viking-congress, which was very fun, and the Viking-exhibition, at the

    Grosvenor Museum, in Chester, was also very fine I think!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-

    From: Steve Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Date: Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:31 AM

    Subject: RE: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    To: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Dear Erik

    Many thanks for your email. I will

    write a more detailed reply later but I thought I'd better point out that the

    present St. Olave's building is of course not the original but is probably on

    the site of an original building which may have been wooden – we

    don't know. It is in the southern part the city which we

    believe to be the Scandinavian part of Chester in the 10th Century (and

    includes the discovery site of a viking treasure hoard at Castle Esplanade and

    some timber constructions similar to those in Dublin). The main area of

    Norse settlement in the area was in Wirral where there is extensive place name,

    archaeological and historical evidence, including 2 hogback tombstones.

    If you get a chance have a look at my

    website

    http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

    and its links, but I will write back to

    you more when I have some more time,

    Beste sommerhilsener

    Steve Harding

    http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

    steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk

    Tel: +44(0) 115 951 6148 (fax 6142)

    Mob: +44(0) 78110 90635




    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 19 July 2009 19:25

    To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk

    Subject: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    Hi,

    I'm from Norway, but I live in Liverpool,

    and the other day, I was in Chester, and I coinsidentily

    stubled upon, the St. Olave's Church,

    since I thought I had to see a bit of the other towns and

    cities, in the North-West, and not only

    Liverpool.

    I took some pictures of the church, and

    posted on my blog.

    From the 'sign' there, it could seem like the church was from the 18th century,

    so much was

    my surprice, when I searched on the

    internet, and found, that the chuch was almost a thousand

    years old, built by Norwegian Vikings who

    were refugees from Dublin, since they lost control there,

    it seems to me, after reading on the

    internet about this.

    I read on a blog called 'Ainscough Family

    History', which I found throug Google, about the 'Viking

    march', between the Wirral and Chester.

    So I wrote a comment on that blog, with

    questions about the St. Olave's Church, and was adviced

    to contact you.

    I was just wondering if the church is listed, since I don't think we have that

    old viking stone-

    buildings in Norway.

    We have 'stav'-churches, in three, but I don't think we have any

    stone-buildings, that are this old.

    So, I was just curious about this.

    I also wondered if there had been conflicts between the St. Olave's Parish and

    the St. Michaels

    Parish, since on one building, 'Nine

    Houses', the borded between the parishes, was written on

    the buildings facade.

    And, I was also wondering, why it isn't a

    plaque there, explaining about, that the church is almost

    a thousand years old, built by Vikings

    from Ireland, because the plaque that's there now, makes

    it almost seem, that the building was

    built much later, or, it only least the year the church was

    conserved, in the 18th century, I think it

    was.

    As I understand, all the part of Chester,

    from the main street, and down to river, used to be

    a Viking-district.

    I was wondering, on some of the half

    timbered houses, I saw some symbols that looked a bit

    like what we call 'firkløver', that's

    four-cleaver, I think, in English, could these symbols have

    been from Norway, or are they English,

    since I heard that these black and white half-timbered

    houses are 'Tudor-style', so I guess that

    the Vikings, in Chester, would have other types of

    buildings, that was there, before the

    Tudor-style buildings,contemporary with the St. Olave's

    Church?

    Sorry that I'm asking a lot of questions,

    I understand if you haven't got the time to answer any

    of these questions.

    I just coincidentaly notices this church, when I was in Chester, and thought it

    was fun, to see

    place-names, and buildings, named after a

    Norwegian king, that we learned about at school,

    in Norway.

    And at school, in Norway, we, as far as I remember, only learned about that

    York, or 'Jorvik',

    like the Vikings called the town or city,

    was a Norwegian Viking-town or city.

    But we didn't learn about, that there were viking setlements, in Cheshire and

    Merseyside.

    So I wasn't aware of, that there was Viking-buildings, in Chester, when I went

    there, so I was

    a bit surprised to see the church, and

    read about it on the internet, so that was very fun.

    I thought that maybe this church, could be

    one of the few buildings etc,. that remained,

    after the Vikings, that had to leave

    Ireland.

    In Norway, we learn at school, that Vikings founded Dublin etc., but we don't

    learn that

    they went to England, after they lost

    control in Ireland, so this was fun to learn.

    So sorry again that I'm asking a lot of questions, and thanks in advance, if

    you have the

    time to explain about any of the questions

    which I've ask!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

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