johncons

Stikkord: Pia Ribsskog

  • Jeg sendte en ny e-post til Norsk Maritimt Museum







    Gmail – Vikingskip i England/Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester







    Gmail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Vikingskip i England/Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave’s Church in Chester





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:28 AM





    To:

    Per Gisle Galåen <Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no>



    Hei,

    ok, du er biblotekar ja.
    Jeg kjenner to ganske nyutdannede biblotekar-damer, fra HiO.
    Det er Siri Rognli Olsen, fra Ranheim, og hu har jeg anmeldt for voldtekt, for hu tulla fælt en helg i Oslo, i 1990, da hu skulle på Alarm-konsert, sammen med venninna, og jeg lot dem bo hos meg, på Abildsø.

    Hu andre, det er Marianne Høksaas, fra Risør vel, som er biblotekar på BI, tror jeg.
    Hu gikk med musesmå skritt, husker jeg, i høyhæla sko vel, og med rød strikk i håret, da hu var sjefen min, på Arvato sin skandinaviske Microsoft-aktivering, i Liverpool.

    Hu prata også høyt om boka Fatso, som var om en som bare satt hjemme og runka, som hu kringkasta, sånn at jeg hørte henne, fra et annet bord.
    Så de biblotekar-damene, de burde du passe deg for, de er noen uskikkelige damer, vil jeg si.

    Men men.
    Sorry at jeg tuller litt her, jeg er arbeidsledig i England, så jeg kjeder meg litt her.
    Jeg ser frem til å få hjelp til å grave opp det vikingskipet da, sånn at jeg får noe å gjøre.

    Igjen takk for svar!
    Det var visst en søstera mi kjente, som var på den kongsseteren, eller noe.
    Hu dro dit visst i helgene, tror jeg.
    Noe sånt.

    Rundt 1991 eller 92 kanskje.

    Men men.
    Jo, en ting til.
    Det er litt rart, at man må dele buss, med svette badegjester, til Huk, hvis man skal på museum på Bøgdøy.

    Kanskje noen blir flaue av å måtte sitte sammen med masse halvnakne ungdommer på bussen.
    Hva med å ha en egen museumsbuss?
    Bare et forslag.
    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Per Gisle Galåen <Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no> wrote:

    Hei igjen.

    Norsk Maritimt Museum er tidligere Norsk Sjøfartsmuseum, og vi

    ligger på Bygdøynes sammen med Framhuset og Kon-Tiki. Vikingskipshuset hører

    til under Kulturhistorisk museum, UIO.

    Lykke til!

    mvh,

    Per Gisle Galåen

    Bibliotekar

    ————————————————————

    Norsk Maritimt Museum

    Bygdøynesvn. 37

    0286 OSLO

    Tlf. 24 11 41 62 (dir.), faks 24 11 41 51

    per.gisle.galaen@marmuseum.no

    http://www.marmuseum.no

    ————————————————————

    Fra: Erik Ribsskog

    [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sendt: 3. desember 2010 11:38

    Til: Per Gisle Galåen

    Emne: Re: Vikingskip i England/Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St.

    Olave's Church in Chester

    Hei,

    ok, det var glimrende!

    Da bare venter jeg og ser om jeg får noe svar her.

    Jeg ser forresten at dere har adresse i Bygdøy.

    Er det vikingskipmuseet jeg har kommet til nå?

    (Det er noen år siden jeg var på museene uti der, da vi var

    på klassetur, med Svelvik Ungdomsskole.

    Men søstera mi, Pia Ribsskog, var visst mye ute på kongsgården der, den første

    tida hu bodde i Oslo.

    På Bygdøy, tror jeg, uten at jeg vet nøyaktig hva hu dreiv med der.

    Men men).

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Per Gisle Galåen <Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no>

    wrote:

    Hei Erik Ribsskog.

    Takk for henvendelsen. Jeg har

    videresendt e-posten din til leder for arkeologisk avdeling, Frode Kvalø, samt

    professor i nordisk arkeologi, Arne Emil Christensen. Jeg snakket med Frode

    Kvalø i går om dette, og han skulle ta en titt på saken. Han har e-post frode.kvalo@marmuseum.no

    mvh,

    Per Gisle Galåen

    NORSK MARITIMT MUSEUM

    ————————————————————

    Norsk Maritimt Museum

    Bygdøynesvn. 37

    0286 OSLO

    Tlf. 24 11 41 62 (dir.), faks 24 11 41 51

    per.gisle.galaen@marmuseum.no

    http://www.marmuseum.no

    ————————————————————

    Fra: Erik

    Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sendt: 2. desember 2010 16:11

    Til: SF_FellesPost

    Kopi: emb.london@mfa.no

    Emne: Vikingskip i England/Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St.

    Olave's Church in Chester

    Hei,

    Riksantikvaren har anbefalt meg, å kontakte blant annet dere og Kulturhistorisk

    museum, om dette.

    Men

    Kulturhistorisk museum svarer ikke, så jeg går videre.

    Det

    gjelder et flott klinkebygget vikinge-langskip, som ligger under

    parkeringsplassen, til en pub, i the Wirral, i England.

    Jeg har pratet med noen som jobber der, og har skrevet om dette på blogg,

    (etter å ha vært og sett på vikinghavnen i Meols, og fått tips om dette

    vikingskipet).

    Jeg har også vært på vikingkongress i Chester, og forklart om at det skipet

    burde tas opp av leira, for ingen kan jo se det under leire.

    Og

    det skipet er vel unikt, i England.

    Det

    burde vært på museum, og det var norske vikinger, som ble jaget fra Dublin, som

    slo seg ned på the Wirral.

    Og muligens også vikinger som kom dit rett fra Norge, dette er på vestkysten av

    England, og grenser til Irskesjøen, like ved Isle of Man osv., hvor de norske

    vikingene dro.



    dette langskipet burde vært i et museum, mener jeg.

    Men britene er visst mer opptatt av romersk arkeologi.

    Så jeg prøver å få tak i ekspertise, (og senere muligens midler), fra Norge.

    Britene er redd for at skipet vil råtne, hvis de graver det opp.

    Men

    i Norge, så har vi jo gravet opp mange vikingeskip, og de står i museer.

    Mens i England, så har de vel ingen andre vikinge/klinke-bygde skip.

    Jeg mener dette er norrøn kultur, siden skipet er klinkebygget.

    Kunne dere gitt råd om konservering/utgraving av skipet?

    En komite bestemte å ikke grave opp skipet, men det var forskere fra svenske

    universitet med på den beslutningen.

    Og svenske vikinger dro jo østover, så det virker rart, synes jeg, at svenske

    forskere skulle være med å ta beslutninger om et norsk vikingeskip.

    Men

    nå har jeg altså tatt opp dette temaet igjen, på viking-konferansen, i forrige

    måned, i Chester.

    Så nå burde det være mulig å begynne fra 'scratch', på et nytt prosjekt, som

    jeg har startet med da.

    Jeg

    kan kontakte puben igjen, og konverserer også med prosjektleder, på det forrige

    prosjektet, professor Stephen Harding, ved universitetet i Nottingham.

    Arkeologen, ved Liverpool National Museum, sa på konferansen, at hvis jeg

    skaffer midler, så kan han og museet grave opp skipet.

    Men han klagde på at det ville råtne, og var ekspert i romersk arkeologi, så om

    dere kunne gitt mer noe mer tilbakemeldinger her.

    For på the Wirral, så er det ingen store byer, det er jo et gammelt norsk

    vikingland, så det kunne kanskje vært artig fra Norges side, å bidra også, til

    en konstruktiv løsning på dette prosjektet?

    Det er jo snakk om felles kultur, mener jeg, og ingen er vel bedre kompetanse

    enn nordmenn, når det gjelder vikingskip?

    Håper dere kan komme med tilbakemelding på dette.

    Jeg

    tenker også på å kontakte ambassaden i London, om dette.

    Vi får se.

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———-

    Forwarded message ———-

    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:08 PM

    Subject: Re: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    well,

    I've supported Everton, since I was 7 years old, since my mother, Karen

    Ribsskog, who had been an au-pair, in the UK, said they were good.

    So

    I think it's enough to support one English football-team.

    But I think the Viking-stuff is fun.

    Everton

    is also a bit Norse, since it's from 'eofer', which means wild pig, in Old

    Norse, and 'ton', is the same as the Norwegian 'tun', which means area around

    the farm-house.

    I'm

    a refugee you see, and am busy trying to get my rights in Norway and in the UK.

    So

    I haven't got that much time.

    I have four blogs, and a website, that I run, where I write about my interests

    and more:

    And

    this is new site, that I'm working on now:

    I'm

    sorry they are in Norwegian, but I see you sometimes write a bit in Norwegian,

    like salutations etc.

    But

    I'm from Norway you know, and in Norway we need a bit time to get to know

    people.

    Since

    I'm from a small place in Norway, called Berger in Vestfold, in Svelvik

    municipality, (I've also lived in Larvik municipality).

    Thanks very much anyway!

    Best

    regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On

    Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    wrote:

    OK Erik

    Next time we will have Labskaus-scouse as we had for

    the book-launch for Ingimunds Saga back in 2001, which Trondheim sent their top

    people:

    https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve/BBCNW2_01.MPG

    If you ring me I can tell you more about what we are

    doing.

    What about supporting Tranmael? Our Viking team

    is playing Hartlepool tonight, kick off 7.45pm.

    Steve Harding




    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 23 November 2010 12:31

    Subject: Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's

    Church in Chester

    Hi

    again,

    so

    I have really started my own Viking-project here a bit. 🙂

    I just wanted to level with the Viking-congress, that was on Saturday, in

    Chester.

    But I'll update and level more, when I know more, from my contact with the

    experts in Norway.

    Hope this is alright, and sorry that I'm sending so much correspondence about

    this!

    Thanks again for the good food, on Saturday, even if it wasn't 'speke'-food, I

    still think it was good food with the chicken balti sandwiches etc.

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———-

    Forwarded message ———-

    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:15 PM

    Subject: Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk

    Hi,

    here

    is what the Riksantikvaren in Norway, wrote about the Vikingship on the Wirral,

    by the way:

    From: Haustveit, Gunvor <gunvor.haustveit@ra.no>

    Date: 2010/10/18

    Subject: Svar på spørsmål "hjelp med å grave opp vikingskip i England"

    To: eribsskog@gmail.com

    Hei og takk for

    e-post.

    Det er flere kompetansesentra og forskere som er

    dyktige på feltet

    om vikingskip. Anbefaler først og fremst: Kulturhistorisk museum med

    Vikingskipshuset, dernest Norsk Maritimt Museum og Norsk Institutt for

    kulturminneforskning. I Danmark er det kompetanse ved Roskilde museum.

    Lykke til!

    (Translates to:

    Hi and thanks for the e-mail.

    There are many competence-centers and

    scientists who are good at the field vikingships. I recomend first and

    foremost: Cultural-historical museum with the Vkingships-huset, then Norwegian

    Maritim Museum and Norwegian Institute for Cultural Heritage Science. In

    Denmark they have competence at Roskilde Museum.

    Good Luck!).

    (This was sent before I read about the

    project on your website, regarding this vikingship).

    Helsing

    Gunvor Haustveit

    Informasjonsseksjonen

    Riksantikvaren

    Postboks 8196 Dep

    0034 Oslo

    Tlf: + 47 98 20 27 60

    www.riksantikvaren.no

    ———-

    Forwarded message ———-

    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:15 AM

    Subject: Re: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    To:

    Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    yes,

    but if they have vikingships on museums in Norway, they are also made of wood,

    and they don't decay.

    They even have Vikingship-museums in Northern Germany, that used to be southern

    Denmark, as far as I remember.

    I've

    heard that the vikingship is under the _parking-lot_ of the pub, (like I said

    on the congress).

    But I have contacted, (like I wrote), the University of Oslo,

    cultural-historical museum, both before and after the congress, and I hope to

    hear back from them soon.

    I

    just went to Meols, to look at the old Viking-harbour, you see, just to get

    some fresh air, since I live in the City Centre of Liverpool.

    And then I asked one of the 'natives' about where the viking harbour was, and

    he also told me, that there was a viking ship, under the pub there.

    And then I went to the pub, the Railway Inn, and spoke with the staff there, (a

    woman in her 20's, I think, who almost looked Norwegian, I think).

    And

    she showed me that there was newspaper-articles on the wall, in the big pub,

    and pictures of a viking longship, etc.

    I promised I'd write about this on my blog, so that people in Norway could read

    about it.

    Then

    I contacted University of Oslo.

    But then, later, I read about your desition, to leave the ship under the clay.

    But then, I saw that you had asked universities in Gothenburg and Stockhome for

    advise.

    And I don't understand why you ask Swedish universities for advise, regarding

    Norwegian vikingships.

    Because the Swedes went east.

    And the Norwegians went to the Irish Sea, etc.

    The Swedish Vikings didn't go to England and the Irish Sea, they went to Russia

    etc, in the east.

    So I thought that project was a bit strange, why involve Swedish universities

    in this?

    Since there is a rivalary between Sweden and Norway, after many wars, from the

    Viking-time and up to modern history.

    So

    that made me a bit sceptical, to that project, when I saw that many Swedish

    universities were involved.

    My reflex, since I am from Norway, would be not to let Swedes be to much

    involved in a Norwegian/(Irish) Viking-project.

    But anyway.

    But

    I have contacted the University of Oslo, cultur-historical museum about this,

    who the 'riksantikvaren', in Norway, refered me to.

    So I'm just waiting to get an answer from them.

    And then I'll contact you when and if I hear something back from them.

    Hope

    this is alright!

    Thank

    you very much for your replies, and sorry that I was a bit late for the

    congress, I just missed the Chester-train, and then I had to take the next

    train, for Port Ellismere, and change for Chester, so then I was delayed.

    This

    is mostly because I'm from Norway, that I'm interested in the congress and the

    Viking-places on the Wirral, because in Norway, this is almost like general

    knowledge, that we learn about on school etc., so this with Viking-stuff is

    almost the only thing we take serious in Norway, (except from skiing).

    (Only

    joking).

    But that's why I'm so interested in this.

    Thanks

    again for the reply to my e-mail!

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On

    Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    wrote:

    Dear Erik

    I was part of the team that

    did the Ground Penetrating Radar studies 3 years ago that appeared to verify the

    existence of the old vessel and we did discuss this in detail with the people

    in Oslo – Arne Christiansen and Knut Paasche of the skiphuset Bygdoy. The

    Chair of the afternoon session was Dr. David Griffiths, distinguished Viking

    Archaeologist from Oxford, born and brought up in Heswall and like myself a

    passionate Wirralian – as he explained in his talk. All 3 of us – Rob

    Philpott, David and myself are in total agreement as to the situation about the

    boat. Unfortunately you can’t just go down and expose the boat as the old wood

    would decay rapidly: this would be very irresponsible!. Its underneath a

    pub and near a major road so unless we can find an estimated 8-10 million

    pounds, we have to leave it where it is. Then when we have the money lets

    go for it! To repeat what Rob has said, if you have any ideas where we

    can get this money, let us know. Believe me we would dearly love to have

    this excavated but it just can’t be done at the moment. However we are

    going to have a meeting soon but I can’t see – without the money – much else we

    can do at the momentThe Friends of Meols Park organisation are having trouble

    trying to raise £40,000 for a statue of Ingimund for Meols Park, again if you

    have any ideas for funds that would be great.

    Nottingham involvement:

    The organizers of the

    conference were Liz Royles and myself. Liz: is Keeper of early

    archaeology at the Grosvenor Museum at Chester – and was born and brought up

    from Meols. Liz did a tremendous job putting on the exhibition and obtaining

    the grants so that everyone could attend for free – and even have free

    refreshments.

    Myself: Indeed I am now at

    the University of Nottingham but was born and brought up in Wirral – near Meols

    and then Wallasey, and come from 2 very old Wirral families that go back at

    least several hundred years, and very proud of this – if you have a chance

    please look at my website

    even Tranmere – Tranmael – my

    team, has a Norwegian name:

    http://trsn.blogspot.com/

    it would be great if you

    could join us!

    I have just written another

    book with Liverpool FC fan Stig Vaagan from Hamar – det Norske Liverpool –
    Vikinger, DNA og Nåtid, which

    will be published soon in Norway, which includes a lot about the Scandinavian

    Church on Park Lane: do you know these people there.

    I have also secured an

    agreement from the people re-constructing the “Drakken” ship of Harald Harfagre

    for it to sail to Liverpool and Wirral in 2012/2013 after the boat is complete

    and indeed have been trying very hard for the last 10 years to develop the

    whole areas Viking Heritage.

    What about meeting up for a

    beer sometime and we can discuss the boat?

    All the best

    Steve Harding

    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 23 November 2010 04:11

    To: Stephen Harding

    Subject: Re: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in

    Chester

    Hi,

    I wasn't aware of that there were boats in

    clay in Scandinavia.

    But, like I wrote in the earlier e-mail, in Scandinavia, we have a lot of ships

    in museums from before.

    And they had made 46 trenches in Irby, and

    none in Meols, even if Meols is more Norse/Viking, Irby means town of the

    Irishmen.

    So I question the priorities here, and as

    I wrote, and updated the congress about, I have contacted the University of

    Oslo, about this.

    So I was mostly summarising, what I said on the congress.

    Further, to my complaint.

    I think what happened after lunch, distroyed the congress.

    The chair from University of Chester was

    ill, and a new chair, from Nottingham, was a reserve.

    I remember it like you only mentioned his firstname, briefly before the congress

    started again, after lunch.

    And his field wasn't mentioned I think.

    I understood this to be a national Viking congress, and not a Nottingham one.

    So noone knew who this guy was or what his

    field was, (the new chair).

    He was a reserve, and should have toned himself down, I think, due to this, and

    due to that his name and field wasn't mentioned in the agenda.

    So I think this distroyed the congress a

    bit, I'm sorry to say, because the new chair went directly in, with facts, or

    'facts', from Scandinavia, all the time.

    Without saying e.g. that the ship was in Gothenburg, he just said

    'Scandinavia'.

    And with 't' becomming 'd', like the young chair said was usual in Scandinavia.

    I think that is in Germany, that 't' becomes 'd', like in 'Donerstag' instead

    of 'Thursday'.

    So my experience of the congress was distroyed by this new chair, I have to

    admit, so I wanted to complain about the congress.

    I also think it's strange that all this Viking-stuff on the Wirral should be

    run from Nottingham.

    I think one should have a centre in the

    Wirral or Chester or Isle of Man, to do with the Norwegian Vikings.

    Because the Norwegian Vikings weren't in Nottingham I think.

    I think a local university, which is located geografically, in what was

    Norwegian Viking-territory, in the UK, should 'run the show' on this.

    I think Nottingham was south of were the Norwegian Vikings lived, in the UK.

    I think the Wirral was obviously a Norwegian Viking-land.

    Why don't the Wirral run the show on this?

    Why is the Wirral Viking-stuff run from Nottingham, (and Chester).

    Maybe Chester would be logical, but was

    has Nottingham to do with Norweigan Vikings in the Wirral?

    This sounds strange to me.

    Also, I think one should have a specialist in Viking-archology, digging up the

    Viking-stuff on the Wirral, because the professor from National Museum

    Liverpool, in a specialist in Roman and 'later' archeology.

    And he explained that he thought something was roman, and then someone else

    came and said that bird-figure for a weight, was viking.

    I don't think this is taken seriously enough.

    Look at the Roman arcahology, with the Circus etc, in Chester.

    You say it isn't proven the Viking-ship in Meols is Viking.

    But it is 'klinke'-buildt, which means it's Norse.

    So I think you try to make this unclear, the ships origin, it definately

    Viking/Norse, and not anything else.

    So I question really the whole congress and you at Nottinghams motivation.

    I understand that University of Oslo or

    University of Trondheim didn't send any people, it's probably because they

    didn't feel welcome.

    Sorry that I think I have to write this direct to put it strange.

    But there wasn't much viking about that congress I think.

    Then it should have been served beer/ale

    and not wine.

    And 'speke'-food, and not Pakistani samosa-food.

    This was not a Norse Viking-congress I think.

    Sorry to say!

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Stephen

    Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    wrote:

    Thanks

    Erik, yes we thoroughly enjoyed the congress, everyone seemed so enthusiastic …

    and it was great having a Norwegian at the conference. The books on sale were

    Vikings in the Irish Sea (Dr. David Griffiths), Irby (Dr. Rob Philpott) and

    Viking DNA (by Turi King, Mark Jobling and myself).

    Thanks

    for modern dynge = heap, but I will check with Dr. Paul Cavill to see if this

    can help. Dingesmere: there are some links to this and Brunanburh on my

    own Viking page http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

    Boat:

    yes we’d all love to get this out, but as Dr. Philpott said it would cost

    8-10Million to achieve, but the boat is perfectly safe in the blue clay until

    that time comes.. which may not be for a long time. We don’t know its

    Viking, all we know its very old! There are I think boats in blue clay in

    Scandinavia – one in Karmoy and one near Gothenburg which have been left for

    the foreseeable future. If there are any developments with Wirral we’ll

    be sure to let you know,

    Hope

    this helps!

    Beste

    hilsener

    Steve

    Harding

    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 21 November 2010 07:24

    Subject: Viking-congress

    in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    Hi,

    thanks for arranging the Viking-congress,

    which I thought was a very fun idea!

    I was just wondering, who was the chair,

    after lunch again, (the young man in his 30's with a beard on his chin or under

    his mouth, or what it's called).

    Because I thought he was a bit 'on' me.

    The one who replaced the professor from

    Chester who was ill.

    I've also sendt to the professer from

    National Museums Liverpool and cultural historical museum Oslo University

    again, about possible founding or expertice from Norway, for the vikingship in

    Meols, which I brought up about, yesterday, on the congress, after the

    professor from National Museums Liverpool spoke about the archeolology in Irby.

    Also, I tried to explain about my

    contributing regardin the subject of Dingesmere, to do with the big battle

    between the Vikings and the English, on the Wirral.

    In Norwegian, 'dynge' means 'heap'.

    And I thought that could be relevant, since Norwegian and English once were the

    same language.

    The young chair was an expert on Scandinavia, (which I'm not I'm just a normal

    Norwegian, but I've worked on a viking-farm in Norway, actually, Løvås farm in

    Kvelde, (where someone tried to murder me, i 2005, so I went to Liverpool, and

    the police wont investigate).

    The young chair said that in Scandinavia

    't' often became 'd'.

    (This I don't know myself from being Norwegian, even if I one term at

    high-school got the best grade, 'S', in Norwegian).

    The young chair also said that vikingships

    in Norway weren't always dug up.

    But, in Norway, we have many vikingship,

    in several musums, (like in Denmark etc).

    But in the Wirral/North-England, you

    haven't got a single vikingship which had been dug up.

    So if it's right that we have ships like that, under clay, in Norway, then at

    least we have some vikingships which we have put in the museum first.

    E.g. the Vikingship Museum in Bygdøy, in Oslo.

    Also, I thought I had to 'argue' with two

    people at the same time, when I spoke.

    Because the young chair, interrupted, my dialog with the two professors, I

    thought a bit.

    So that's why I left before the book-launch, because I was a bit disapointed in

    the young chairs behavour.

    So I was just a bit currious, who the young chair was again.

    Because his name wasn't mentioned on the agenda, since the initial chair, after

    lunch, the professor from University of Chester, was ill, if I understood you

    right, when you briefly spoke, after lunch, yesterday.

    Thank you very much in advance for any

    reply!

    And thanks again for holding the

    Viking-congress, which was very fun, and the Viking-exhibition, at the

    Grosvenor Museum, in Chester, was also very fine I think!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-

    From: Steve Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Date: Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:31 AM

    Subject: RE: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    To: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Dear Erik

    Many thanks for your email. I will

    write a more detailed reply later but I thought I'd better point out that the

    present St. Olave's building is of course not the original but is probably on

    the site of an original building which may have been wooden – we

    don't know. It is in the southern part the city which we

    believe to be the Scandinavian part of Chester in the 10th Century (and includes

    the discovery site of a viking treasure hoard at Castle Esplanade and some

    timber constructions similar to those in Dublin). The main area of Norse

    settlement in the area was in Wirral where there is extensive place name,

    archaeological and historical evidence, including 2 hogback tombstones.

    If you get a chance have a look at my

    website

    http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

    and its links, but I will write back to

    you more when I have some more time,

    Beste sommerhilsener

    Steve Harding

    http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

    steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk

    Tel: +44(0) 115 951 6148 (fax 6142)

    Mob: +44(0) 78110 90635




    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 19 July 2009 19:25

    To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk

    Subject: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    Hi,

    I'm from Norway, but I live in Liverpool, and

    the other day, I was in Chester, and I coinsidentily

    stubled upon, the St. Olave's Church,

    since I thought I had to see a bit of the other towns and

    cities, in the North-West, and not only

    Liverpool.

    I took some pictures of the church, and

    posted on my blog.

    From the 'sign' there, it could seem like the church was from the 18th century,

    so much was

    my surprice, when I searched on the

    internet, and found, that the chuch was almost a thousand

    years old, built by Norwegian Vikings who

    were refugees from Dublin, since they lost control there,

    it seems to me, after reading on the

    internet about this.

    I read on a blog called 'Ainscough Family

    History', which I found throug Google, about the 'Viking

    march', between the Wirral and Chester.

    So I wrote a comment on that blog, with

    questions about the St. Olave's Church, and was adviced

    to contact you.

    I was just wondering if the church is listed, since I don't think we have that

    old viking stone-

    buildings in Norway.

    We have 'stav'-churches, in three, but I don't think we have any

    stone-buildings, that are this old.

    So, I was just curious about this.

    I also wondered if there had been conflicts between the St. Olave's Parish and

    the St. Michaels

    Parish, since on one building, 'Nine

    Houses', the borded between the parishes, was written on

    the buildings facade.

    And, I was also wondering, why it isn't a

    plaque there, explaining about, that the church is almost

    a thousand years old, built by Vikings

    from Ireland, because the plaque that's there now, makes

    it almost seem, that the building was

    built much later, or, it only least the year the church was

    conserved, in the 18th century, I think it

    was.

    As I understand, all the part of Chester,

    from the main street, and down to river, used to be

    a Viking-district.

    I was wondering, on some of the half

    timbered houses, I saw some symbols that looked a bit

    like what we call 'firkløver', that's

    four-cleaver, I think, in English, could these symbols have

    been from Norway, or are they English, since

    I heard that these black and white half-timbered

    houses are 'Tudor-style', so I guess that

    the Vikings, in Chester, would have other types of

    buildings, that was there, before the

    Tudor-style buildings,contemporary with the St. Olave's

    Church?

    Sorry that I'm asking a lot of questions,

    I understand if you haven't got the time to answer any

    of these questions.

    I just coincidentaly notices this church, when I was in Chester, and thought it

    was fun, to see

    place-names, and buildings, named after a Norwegian

    king, that we learned about at school,

    in Norway.

    And at school, in Norway, we, as far as I remember, only learned about that

    York, or 'Jorvik',

    like the Vikings called the town or city,

    was a Norwegian Viking-town or city.

    But we didn't learn about, that there were viking setlements, in Cheshire and

    Merseyside.

    So I wasn't aware of, that there was Viking-buildings, in Chester, when I went

    there, so I was

    a bit surprised to see the church, and

    read about it on the internet, so that was very fun.

    I thought that maybe this church, could be

    one of the few buildings etc,. that remained,

    after the Vikings, that had to leave

    Ireland.

    In Norway, we learn at school, that Vikings founded Dublin etc., but we don't

    learn that

    they went to England, after they lost

    control in Ireland, so this was fun to learn.

    So sorry again that I'm asking a lot of questions, and thanks in advance, if

    you have the

    time to explain about any of the questions

    which I've ask!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    This message has been checked

    for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software

    viruses, which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform

    your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be

    monitored as permitted by UK legislation.

    This message and any attachment

    are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information.

    If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and

    immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information

    contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed

    by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the

    University of Nottingham.

    This message has been checked for

    viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses

    which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own

    checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored

    as permitted by UK legislation.

    This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and

    may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in

    error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use,

    copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any

    attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not

    necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham.

    This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment

    may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you

    are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the

    University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation.






  • Er det de døve som tuller?

    Det jeg har tenkt litt nå.

    Er at det kanskje er kusina mi Lene, som er døv, som har fortsatt med Olsenbanden.

    Døve har jo teksttelefon osv.

    Og de kan lese på leppene, og lese folks ansiktsutrykk.

    Og søstera mi Pia og hennes stesøster Christell, de var noen ‘djevler’ til å lære seg døvespråk.

    Mens dette gikk mest i glemmeboka, for meg.

    Da vi var på et sånt kurs, hos onkelen vår, Håkon.

    Dette var vel mens jeg gikk på ungdomsskolen, tror jeg.

    Men jeg lærte ihvertfall døvealfabetet.

    Jeg bodde jo alene, i Leirfaret 4B.

    Mens Pia og Christell bodde i Havnehagen.

    Og jeg ville kanskje ikke tenke så mye på det døvekurset, for da tenkte jeg nok på ‘Håkon’-huset.

    (Der Lene og Tommy og deres foreldre Håkon og Tone bodde).

    For sist jeg var der, før døvekurset.

    Kanskje det siste året på barneskolen, eller noe.

    Så hadde fetteren min Tommy, (som er fem år yngre enn meg), sittet oppå kusina mi Lene, (som er døv, og et halvt år yngre enn meg vel), og dratt av henne plagg etter plagg.

    Sånn at hu til slutt lå der, splitter naken, som 11-12 åring kanskje.

    Så da ble jeg litt paff.

    For jeg syntes det så ut som, at de hadde gjort det her, mange ganger før.

    Og Lene smilte, sånn som jeg husker det, mens Tommy holdt på.

    Og Lene var jo fire-fem år eldre enn Tommy, så at hu skulle være svakere enn han, det var ikke noe jeg hadde gjetta på, hvis jeg skulle ha gjetta, ihvertfall.

    Så jeg bare gikk hjem.

    Foreldrene satt i stua, men de sa jeg ikke noe til.

    Det ble for flaut liksom.

    Faren til Lene og Tommy, Håkon, han var ganske sånn sexfiksert, og skulle være morsom, og en gang dem tok med meg på stranda, nedafor teskjekjærringa, så fikk Håkon ei som var 11-12 år, til å ta av seg bikinioverdelen, mens kona hans Tone også lå der.

    Det var ei med rødt hår, som bodde nederst i Havnehagen, datter av Rolf Stenberg, tror jeg.

    Ei som storebroren til døde, da han ble jaget utfor et stup, eller noe sånt, noen år seinere på 80-tallet.

    Noe sånt.

    Så jeg ville ikke prate om sånt med Håkon og Tone.

    Jeg bare syntes dette var veldig spesielt, og gikk hjem.

    Så sånn var det.

    Vi var også på besøk, på døveskolen i Holmestrand, i forbindelse med dette kurset.

    Og da skjønte jeg det, at døve, de kan være ganske lunefulle.

    Selv om en gutt der var døv, så var han populær, og også tøff.

    Sånn som jeg husker det.

    Jeg havna nesten i stry, fordi jeg begynte nesten å erte eller mobbe de døve litt der, i starten av besøket, med en gang vi kom ut av bilen, (sånn som unger eller ungdom kanskje ofte gjør), kanskje for å hevde meg, eller imponere Christell, dattera til Haldis, eller noe.

    (Bare for å markere at jeg ikke var døv liksom.

    Kanskje noe sånt).

    Som jo ikke var søstera mi, eller i blodsbånd da, hun var bare dattera til min fars samboer Haldis liksom, for meg.

    Så hun kunne man tulle litt med noen ganger, tenkte jeg.

    Men men.

    Men da gikk jeg nesten i en felle.

    For døve var visst veldig tøffe, og hadde full kontroll.

    Så man burde ikke tulle med døve, er mitt råd.

    En ferie, da Lenes foreldre, var i Rhodos, og farmora og farfaren min også var i Rhodos.

    På begynnelsen av 80-tallet.

    Mens jeg fortsatt bodde i Hellinga 7B.

    (Der bodde jeg fra oktober 1979, da jeg flytta fra mora mi i Larvik.

    Like etter at jeg hadde fylt 9 år.

    Til mai 1981, før jeg fylte 11 år).

    Faren min flytta ned til Haldis, våren 1980.

    Før jeg var 10 år.

    Så dette var da jeg var 9-10 år.

    Mens jeg var 9-10 år, og bodde alene i Hellinga 7B, så hadde jeg kusina mi Lene, som var døv, på besøk der, i en drøy uke, tror jeg.

    Mens vi bodde der alene da.

    Og mens jeg prøvde å være veldig snill, og ikke tok henne på fitta, eller noe, sånn som jeg en gang gjorde med Christell og Gry Stenberg.

    Så det gikk vel stort sett greit, vil jeg si, at hu Lene bodde hos meg da, i en uke, mens jeg bare var 9-10 år.

    Så jeg var kanskje nesten som faren hennes da.

    Noe sånt.

    Selv om jeg savna farmora mi Ågot, og tulla litt, da de kom hjem fra Rhodos, og trodde at Lenes foreldre også var hos Ågot.

    Men de var jo da selvfølgelig i ‘Håkon’-huset.

    Så vi gikk en bomtur bort til ‘Ågot’-huset, fra Hellinga 7B, på slutten av den her ferieuka da, (som nok var i sommerferien 1980 kanskje, eller om det var i høstferien 1980. Eller i påskeferien 1981. Noe sånt).

    For dette taoisme-greine, som jeg lurer på om står bak kristendommen og djeveldyrkingen.

    Dette med svart og hvitt osv.

    Det minner kanskje litt om hvordan døve ser verden, mener jeg.

    De har vel ikke et så nyansert språk vel.

    Som vi ikke-døve.

    Så de ser kanskje verden mye i svart og hvitt?

    Jeg mener også at søsterene mine, Pia og Christell, nesten prater ‘døvt’ noen ganger.

    Pia spurte meg en gang, ‘du er vel snill mot jentene?’.

    Det er et veldig sånt nedlatende, og veldig vagt spørsmål, vil jeg si.

    Det er vel lov å tulle litt og, for å motvirke kjedsomhet.

    Og det spørsmålet er vel som en fornærmelse.

    Snakket Pia ‘døvt’ da, på oppdrag fra en døve-mafia, som styrer verden?

    Hm.

    Hvem vet.

    Men vi får se hva som skjer.

    Vi får se.

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

  • Jeg sendte en ny e-post til Norsk Maritimt Museum







    Gmail – Vikingskip i England/Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester







    Gmail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Vikingskip i England/Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave’s Church in Chester





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:37 AM





    To:

    Per Gisle Galåen <Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no>



    Hei,

    ok, det var glimrende!
    Da bare venter jeg og ser om jeg får noe svar her.
    Jeg ser forresten at dere har adresse i Bygdøy.
    Er det vikingskipmuseet jeg har kommet til nå?

    (Det er noen år siden jeg var på museene uti der, da vi var på klassetur, med Svelvik Ungdomsskole.
    Men søstera mi, Pia Ribsskog, var visst mye ute på kongsgården der, den første tida hu bodde i Oslo.

    På Bygdøy, tror jeg, uten at jeg vet nøyaktig hva hu dreiv med der.
    Men men).
    Mvh.
    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Per Gisle Galåen <Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no> wrote:

    Hei Erik Ribsskog.

    Takk for henvendelsen. Jeg har videresendt e-posten din til

    leder for arkeologisk avdeling, Frode Kvalø, samt professor i nordisk

    arkeologi, Arne Emil Christensen. Jeg snakket med Frode Kvalø i går om dette,

    og han skulle ta en titt på saken. Han har e-post frode.kvalo@marmuseum.no

    mvh,

    Per Gisle Galåen

    NORSK MARITIMT MUSEUM

    ————————————————————

    Norsk Maritimt Museum

    Bygdøynesvn. 37

    0286 OSLO

    Tlf. 24 11 41 62 (dir.), faks 24 11 41 51

    per.gisle.galaen@marmuseum.no

    http://www.marmuseum.no

    ————————————————————

    Fra: Erik Ribsskog

    [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sendt: 2. desember 2010 16:11

    Til: SF_FellesPost

    Kopi: emb.london@mfa.no

    Emne: Vikingskip i England/Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St.

    Olave's Church in Chester

    Hei,

    Riksantikvaren har anbefalt meg, å kontakte blant annet dere og Kulturhistorisk

    museum, om dette.

    Men Kulturhistorisk museum svarer ikke, så jeg går videre.

    Det gjelder et flott klinkebygget vikinge-langskip, som

    ligger under parkeringsplassen, til en pub, i the Wirral, i England.

    Jeg har pratet med noen som jobber der, og har skrevet om dette på blogg,

    (etter å ha vært og sett på vikinghavnen i Meols, og fått tips om dette

    vikingskipet).

    Jeg har også vært på vikingkongress i Chester, og forklart om at det skipet

    burde tas opp av leira, for ingen kan jo se det under leire.

    Og det skipet er vel unikt, i England.

    Det burde vært på museum, og det var norske vikinger, som

    ble jaget fra Dublin, som slo seg ned på the Wirral.

    Og muligens også vikinger som kom dit rett fra Norge, dette er på vestkysten av

    England, og grenser til Irskesjøen, like ved Isle of Man osv., hvor de norske

    vikingene dro.

    Så dette langskipet burde vært i et museum, mener jeg.

    Men britene er visst mer opptatt av romersk arkeologi.

    Så jeg prøver å få tak i ekspertise, (og senere muligens midler), fra Norge.

    Britene er redd for at skipet vil råtne, hvis de graver det opp.

    Men i Norge, så har vi jo gravet opp mange vikingeskip, og

    de står i museer.

    Mens i England, så har de vel ingen andre vikinge/klinke-bygde skip.

    Jeg mener dette er norrøn kultur, siden skipet er klinkebygget.

    Kunne dere gitt råd om konservering/utgraving av skipet?

    En komite bestemte å ikke grave opp skipet, men det var forskere fra svenske

    universitet med på den beslutningen.

    Og svenske vikinger dro jo østover, så det virker rart, synes jeg, at svenske

    forskere skulle være med å ta beslutninger om et norsk vikingeskip.

    Men nå har jeg altså tatt opp dette temaet igjen, på

    viking-konferansen, i forrige måned, i Chester.

    Så nå burde det være mulig å begynne fra 'scratch', på et nytt prosjekt, som

    jeg har startet med da.

    Jeg kan kontakte puben igjen, og konverserer også med

    prosjektleder, på det forrige prosjektet, professor Stephen Harding, ved

    universitetet i Nottingham.

    Arkeologen, ved Liverpool National Museum, sa på konferansen, at hvis jeg

    skaffer midler, så kan han og museet grave opp skipet.

    Men han klagde på at det ville råtne, og var ekspert i romersk arkeologi, så om

    dere kunne gitt mer noe mer tilbakemeldinger her.

    For på the Wirral, så er det ingen store byer, det er jo et gammelt norsk

    vikingland, så det kunne kanskje vært artig fra Norges side, å bidra også, til

    en konstruktiv løsning på dette prosjektet?

    Det er jo snakk om felles kultur, mener jeg, og ingen er vel bedre kompetanse

    enn nordmenn, når det gjelder vikingskip?

    Håper dere kan komme med tilbakemelding på dette.

    Jeg tenker også på å kontakte ambassaden i London, om dette.

    Vi får se.

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-

    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:08 PM

    Subject: Re: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    well, I've supported Everton, since I was 7 years old, since

    my mother, Karen Ribsskog, who had been an au-pair, in the UK, said they were

    good.

    So I think it's enough to support one English football-team.

    But I think the Viking-stuff is fun.

    Everton is also a bit Norse, since it's from 'eofer', which

    means wild pig, in Old Norse, and 'ton', is the same as the Norwegian 'tun',

    which means area around the farm-house.

    I'm a refugee you see, and am busy trying to get my rights

    in Norway and in the UK.

    So I haven't got that much time.

    I have four blogs, and a website, that I run, where I write about my interests

    and more:

    And this is new site, that I'm working on now:

    I'm sorry they are in Norwegian, but I see you sometimes

    write a bit in Norwegian, like salutations etc.

    But I'm from Norway you know, and in Norway we need a bit

    time to get to know people.

    Since I'm from a small place in Norway, called Berger in

    Vestfold, in Svelvik municipality, (I've also lived in Larvik municipality).

    Thanks very much anyway!

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    wrote:

    OK

    Erik

    Next

    time we will have Labskaus-scouse as we had for the book-launch for Ingimunds

    Saga back in 2001, which Trondheim sent their top people:

    https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve/BBCNW2_01.MPG

    If

    you ring me I can tell you more about what we are doing.

    What

    about supporting Tranmael? Our Viking team is playing Hartlepool tonight,

    kick off 7.45pm.

    Steve

    Harding




    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 23 November 2010 12:31

    Subject: Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd:

    St. Olave's Church in Chester

    Hi again,

    so I have really started my own Viking-project here a bit.

    🙂

    I just wanted to level with the Viking-congress, that was on Saturday, in

    Chester.

    But I'll update and level more, when I know more, from my contact with the

    experts in Norway.

    Hope this is alright, and sorry that I'm sending so much correspondence about

    this!

    Thanks again for the good food, on Saturday, even if it wasn't 'speke'-food, I

    still think it was good food with the chicken balti sandwiches etc.

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-

    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:15 PM

    Subject: Fwd: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk

    Hi,

    here is what the Riksantikvaren in Norway, wrote about the

    Vikingship on the Wirral, by the way:

    From: Haustveit,

    Gunvor
    <gunvor.haustveit@ra.no>

    Date:

    2010/10/18

    Subject: Svar på spørsmål "hjelp med å grave opp vikingskip i

    England"

    To: eribsskog@gmail.com

    Hei

    og takk for

    e-post.

    Det

    er flere kompetansesentra og forskere som er dyktige på feltet

    om vikingskip. Anbefaler først og fremst: Kulturhistorisk museum med

    Vikingskipshuset, dernest Norsk Maritimt Museum og Norsk Institutt for

    kulturminneforskning. I Danmark er det kompetanse ved Roskilde museum.

    Lykke

    til!

    (Translates to:

    Hi and thanks

    for the e-mail.

    There are many

    competence-centers and scientists who are good at the field vikingships. I

    recomend first and foremost: Cultural-historical museum with the

    Vkingships-huset, then Norwegian Maritim Museum and Norwegian Institute for

    Cultural Heritage Science. In Denmark they have competence at Roskilde Museum.

    Good Luck!).

    (This was sent

    before I read about the project on your website, regarding this vikingship).

    Helsing

    Gunvor

    Haustveit

    Informasjonsseksjonen

    Riksantikvaren

    Postboks

    8196 Dep

    0034

    Oslo

    Tlf:

    + 47 98 20 27 60

    www.riksantikvaren.no

    ———- Forwarded message ———-

    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:15 AM

    Subject: Re: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    yes, but if they have vikingships on museums in Norway, they

    are also made of wood, and they don't decay.

    They even have Vikingship-museums in Northern Germany, that used to be southern

    Denmark, as far as I remember.

    I've heard that the vikingship is under the _parking-lot_ of

    the pub, (like I said on the congress).

    But I have contacted, (like I wrote), the University of Oslo,

    cultural-historical museum, both before and after the congress, and I hope to

    hear back from them soon.

    I just went to Meols, to look at the old Viking-harbour, you

    see, just to get some fresh air, since I live in the City Centre of Liverpool.

    And then I asked one of the 'natives' about where the viking harbour was, and

    he also told me, that there was a viking ship, under the pub there.

    And then I went to the pub, the Railway Inn, and spoke with the staff there, (a

    woman in her 20's, I think, who almost looked Norwegian, I think).

    And she showed me that there was newspaper-articles on the

    wall, in the big pub, and pictures of a viking longship, etc.

    I promised I'd write about this on my blog, so that people in Norway could read

    about it.

    Then I contacted University of Oslo.

    But then, later, I read about your desition, to leave the ship under the clay.

    But then, I saw that you had asked universities in Gothenburg and Stockhome for

    advise.

    And I don't understand why you ask Swedish universities for advise, regarding

    Norwegian vikingships.

    Because the Swedes went east.

    And the Norwegians went to the Irish Sea, etc.

    The Swedish Vikings didn't go to England and the Irish Sea, they went to Russia

    etc, in the east.

    So I thought that project was a bit strange, why involve Swedish universities

    in this?

    Since there is a rivalary between Sweden and Norway, after many wars, from the

    Viking-time and up to modern history.

    So that made me a bit sceptical, to that project, when I saw

    that many Swedish universities were involved.

    My reflex, since I am from Norway, would be not to let Swedes be to much

    involved in a Norwegian/(Irish) Viking-project.

    But anyway.

    But I have contacted the University of Oslo,

    cultur-historical museum about this, who the 'riksantikvaren', in Norway,

    refered me to.

    So I'm just waiting to get an answer from them.

    And then I'll contact you when and if I hear something back from them.

    Hope this is alright!

    Thank you very much for your replies, and sorry that I was a

    bit late for the congress, I just missed the Chester-train, and then I had to

    take the next train, for Port Ellismere, and change for Chester, so then I was

    delayed.

    This is mostly because I'm from Norway, that I'm interested

    in the congress and the Viking-places on the Wirral, because in Norway, this is

    almost like general knowledge, that we learn about on school etc., so this with

    Viking-stuff is almost the only thing we take serious in Norway, (except from

    skiing).

    (Only joking).

    But that's why I'm so interested in this.

    Thanks again for the reply to my e-mail!

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    wrote:

    Dear Erik

    I was part of the team that

    did the Ground Penetrating Radar studies 3 years ago that appeared to verify

    the existence of the old vessel and we did discuss this in detail with the

    people in Oslo – Arne Christiansen and Knut Paasche of the skiphuset

    Bygdoy. The Chair of the afternoon session was Dr. David Griffiths,

    distinguished Viking Archaeologist from Oxford, born and brought up in Heswall

    and like myself a passionate Wirralian – as he explained in his

    talk. All 3 of us – Rob Philpott, David and myself are in total

    agreement as to the situation about the boat. Unfortunately you can’t

    just go down and expose the boat as the old wood would decay rapidly: this

    would be very irresponsible!. Its underneath a pub and near a major road

    so unless we can find an estimated 8-10 million pounds, we have to leave it

    where it is. Then when we have the money lets go for it! To repeat

    what Rob has said, if you have any ideas where we can get this money, let us

    know. Believe me we would dearly love to have this excavated but it just

    can’t be done at the moment. However we are going to have a meeting

    soon but I can’t see – without the money – much else we can do at

    the momentThe Friends of Meols Park organisation are having trouble trying to

    raise £40,000 for a statue of Ingimund for Meols Park, again if you have any

    ideas for funds that would be great.

    Nottingham involvement:

    The organizers of the

    conference were Liz Royles and myself. Liz: is Keeper of early

    archaeology at the Grosvenor Museum at Chester – and was born and brought up

    from Meols. Liz did a tremendous job putting on the exhibition and obtaining

    the grants so that everyone could attend for free – and even have free

    refreshments.

    Myself: Indeed I am now at

    the University of Nottingham but was born and brought up in Wirral – near

    Meols and then Wallasey, and come from 2 very old Wirral families that go back

    at least several hundred years, and very proud of this – if you have a

    chance please look at my website

    even Tranmere –

    Tranmael – my team, has a Norwegian name:

    http://trsn.blogspot.com/

    it would be great if you

    could join us!

    I have just written another

    book with Liverpool FC fan Stig Vaagan from Hamar – det Norske Liverpool

    Vikinger, DNA

    og Nåtid, which will be published soon in Norway, which includes a lot about

    the Scandinavian Church on Park Lane: do you know these people there.

    I have also secured an

    agreement from the people re-constructing the “Drakken” ship of

    Harald Harfagre for it to sail to Liverpool and Wirral in 2012/2013 after the

    boat is complete and indeed have been trying very hard for the last 10 years to

    develop the whole areas Viking Heritage.

    What about meeting up for a

    beer sometime and we can discuss the boat?

    All the best

    Steve Harding

    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 23 November 2010 04:11

    To: Stephen Harding

    Subject: Re: Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in

    Chester

    Hi,

    I wasn't aware of that there were boats in

    clay in Scandinavia.

    But, like I wrote in the earlier e-mail, in Scandinavia, we have a lot of ships

    in museums from before.

    And they had made 46 trenches in Irby, and

    none in Meols, even if Meols is more Norse/Viking, Irby means town of the

    Irishmen.

    So I question the priorities here, and as

    I wrote, and updated the congress about, I have contacted the University of

    Oslo, about this.

    So I was mostly summarising, what I said on the congress.

    Further, to my complaint.

    I think what happened after lunch, distroyed the congress.

    The chair from University of Chester was

    ill, and a new chair, from Nottingham, was a reserve.

    I remember it like you only mentioned his firstname, briefly before the

    congress started again, after lunch.

    And his field wasn't mentioned I think.

    I understood this to be a national Viking congress, and not a Nottingham one.

    So noone knew who this guy was or what his

    field was, (the new chair).

    He was a reserve, and should have toned himself down, I think, due to this, and

    due to that his name and field wasn't mentioned in the agenda.

    So I think this distroyed the congress a

    bit, I'm sorry to say, because the new chair went directly in, with facts, or

    'facts', from Scandinavia, all the time.

    Without saying e.g. that the ship was in Gothenburg, he just said

    'Scandinavia'.

    And with 't' becomming 'd', like the young chair said was usual in Scandinavia.

    I think that is in Germany, that 't' becomes 'd', like in 'Donerstag' instead

    of 'Thursday'.

    So my experience of the congress was distroyed by this new chair, I have to

    admit, so I wanted to complain about the congress.

    I also think it's strange that all this Viking-stuff on the Wirral should be

    run from Nottingham.

    I think one should have a centre in the

    Wirral or Chester or Isle of Man, to do with the Norwegian Vikings.

    Because the Norwegian Vikings weren't in Nottingham I think.

    I think a local university, which is located geografically, in what was

    Norwegian Viking-territory, in the UK, should 'run the show' on this.

    I think Nottingham was south of were the Norwegian Vikings lived, in the UK.

    I think the Wirral was obviously a Norwegian Viking-land.

    Why don't the Wirral run the show on this?

    Why is the Wirral Viking-stuff run from Nottingham, (and Chester).

    Maybe Chester would be logical, but was

    has Nottingham to do with Norweigan Vikings in the Wirral?

    This sounds strange to me.

    Also, I think one should have a specialist in Viking-archology, digging up the

    Viking-stuff on the Wirral, because the professor from National Museum

    Liverpool, in a specialist in Roman and 'later' archeology.

    And he explained that he thought something was roman, and then someone else

    came and said that bird-figure for a weight, was viking.

    I don't think this is taken seriously enough.

    Look at the Roman arcahology, with the Circus etc, in Chester.

    You say it isn't proven the Viking-ship in Meols is Viking.

    But it is 'klinke'-buildt, which means it's Norse.

    So I think you try to make this unclear, the ships origin, it definately

    Viking/Norse, and not anything else.

    So I question really the whole congress and you at Nottinghams motivation.

    I understand that University of Oslo or

    University of Trondheim didn't send any people, it's probably because they

    didn't feel welcome.

    Sorry that I think I have to write this direct to put it strange.

    But there wasn't much viking about that congress I think.

    Then it should have been served beer/ale

    and not wine.

    And 'speke'-food, and not Pakistani samosa-food.

    This was not a Norse Viking-congress I think.

    Sorry to say!

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Stephen

    Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    wrote:

    Thanks

    Erik, yes we thoroughly enjoyed the congress, everyone seemed so enthusiastic

    … and it was great having a Norwegian at the conference. The books on

    sale were Vikings in the Irish Sea (Dr. David Griffiths), Irby (Dr. Rob

    Philpott) and Viking DNA (by Turi King, Mark Jobling and myself).

    Thanks

    for modern dynge = heap, but I will check with Dr. Paul Cavill to see if this

    can help. Dingesmere: there are some links to this and Brunanburh on my

    own Viking page http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

    Boat:

    yes we’d all love to get this out, but as Dr. Philpott said it would cost

    8-10Million to achieve, but the boat is perfectly safe in the blue clay until

    that time comes.. which may not be for a long time. We don’t know

    its Viking, all we know its very old! There are I think boats in blue clay in

    Scandinavia – one in Karmoy and one near Gothenburg which have been left

    for the foreseeable future. If there are any developments with Wirral

    we’ll be sure to let you know,

    Hope

    this helps!

    Beste

    hilsener

    Steve

    Harding

    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 21 November 2010 07:24

    Subject:

    Viking-congress in Chester/Fwd: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    Hi,

    thanks for arranging the Viking-congress,

    which I thought was a very fun idea!

    I was just wondering, who was the chair,

    after lunch again, (the young man in his 30's with a beard on his chin or under

    his mouth, or what it's called).

    Because I thought he was a bit 'on' me.

    The one who replaced the professor from

    Chester who was ill.

    I've also sendt to the professer from

    National Museums Liverpool and cultural historical museum Oslo University

    again, about possible founding or expertice from Norway, for the vikingship in

    Meols, which I brought up about, yesterday, on the congress, after the

    professor from National Museums Liverpool spoke about the archeolology in Irby.

    Also, I tried to explain about my

    contributing regardin the subject of Dingesmere, to do with the big battle

    between the Vikings and the English, on the Wirral.

    In Norwegian, 'dynge' means 'heap'.

    And I thought that could be relevant, since Norwegian and English once were the

    same language.

    The young chair was an expert on Scandinavia, (which I'm not I'm just a normal

    Norwegian, but I've worked on a viking-farm in Norway, actually, Løvås farm in

    Kvelde, (where someone tried to murder me, i 2005, so I went to Liverpool, and

    the police wont investigate).

    The young chair said that in Scandinavia

    't' often became 'd'.

    (This I don't know myself from being Norwegian, even if I one term at

    high-school got the best grade, 'S', in Norwegian).

    The young chair also said that vikingships

    in Norway weren't always dug up.

    But, in Norway, we have many vikingship,

    in several musums, (like in Denmark etc).

    But in the Wirral/North-England, you

    haven't got a single vikingship which had been dug up.

    So if it's right that we have ships like that, under clay, in Norway, then at

    least we have some vikingships which we have put in the museum first.

    E.g. the Vikingship Museum in Bygdøy, in Oslo.

    Also, I thought I had to 'argue' with two

    people at the same time, when I spoke.

    Because the young chair, interrupted, my dialog with the two professors, I

    thought a bit.

    So that's why I left before the book-launch, because I was a bit disapointed in

    the young chairs behavour.

    So I was just a bit currious, who the young chair was again.

    Because his name wasn't mentioned on the agenda, since the initial chair, after

    lunch, the professor from University of Chester, was ill, if I understood you

    right, when you briefly spoke, after lunch, yesterday.

    Thank you very much in advance for any

    reply!

    And thanks again for holding the

    Viking-congress, which was very fun, and the Viking-exhibition, at the

    Grosvenor Museum, in Chester, was also very fine I think!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-

    From: Steve Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Date: Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:31 AM

    Subject: RE: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    To: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Dear Erik

    Many thanks for your email. I will

    write a more detailed reply later but I thought I'd better point out that the

    present St. Olave's building is of course not the original but is probably on

    the site of an original building which may have been wooden – we

    don't know. It is in the southern part the city which we

    believe to be the Scandinavian part of Chester in the 10th Century (and

    includes the discovery site of a viking treasure hoard at Castle Esplanade and

    some timber constructions similar to those in Dublin). The main area of

    Norse settlement in the area was in Wirral where there is extensive place name,

    archaeological and historical evidence, including 2 hogback tombstones.

    If you get a chance have a look at my

    website

    http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

    and its links, but I will write back to

    you more when I have some more time,

    Beste sommerhilsener

    Steve Harding

    http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

    steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk

    Tel: +44(0) 115 951 6148 (fax 6142)

    Mob: +44(0) 78110 90635




    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 19 July 2009 19:25

    To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk

    Subject: St. Olave's Church in Chester

    Hi,

    I'm from Norway, but I live in Liverpool,

    and the other day, I was in Chester, and I coinsidentily

    stubled upon, the St. Olave's Church,

    since I thought I had to see a bit of the other towns and

    cities, in the North-West, and not only

    Liverpool.

    I took some pictures of the church, and

    posted on my blog.

    From the 'sign' there, it could seem like the church was from the 18th century,

    so much was

    my surprice, when I searched on the

    internet, and found, that the chuch was almost a thousand

    years old, built by Norwegian Vikings who

    were refugees from Dublin, since they lost control there,

    it seems to me, after reading on the

    internet about this.

    I read on a blog called 'Ainscough Family

    History', which I found throug Google, about the 'Viking

    march', between the Wirral and Chester.

    So I wrote a comment on that blog, with

    questions about the St. Olave's Church, and was adviced

    to contact you.

    I was just wondering if the church is listed, since I don't think we have that

    old viking stone-

    buildings in Norway.

    We have 'stav'-churches, in three, but I don't think we have any

    stone-buildings, that are this old.

    So, I was just curious about this.

    I also wondered if there had been conflicts between the St. Olave's Parish and

    the St. Michaels

    Parish, since on one building, 'Nine

    Houses', the borded between the parishes, was written on

    the buildings facade.

    And, I was also wondering, why it isn't a

    plaque there, explaining about, that the church is almost

    a thousand years old, built by Vikings

    from Ireland, because the plaque that's there now, makes

    it almost seem, that the building was

    built much later, or, it only least the year the church was

    conserved, in the 18th century, I think it

    was.

    As I understand, all the part of Chester,

    from the main street, and down to river, used to be

    a Viking-district.

    I was wondering, on some of the half

    timbered houses, I saw some symbols that looked a bit

    like what we call 'firkløver', that's

    four-cleaver, I think, in English, could these symbols have

    been from Norway, or are they English,

    since I heard that these black and white half-timbered

    houses are 'Tudor-style', so I guess that

    the Vikings, in Chester, would have other types of

    buildings, that was there, before the

    Tudor-style buildings,contemporary with the St. Olave's

    Church?

    Sorry that I'm asking a lot of questions,

    I understand if you haven't got the time to answer any

    of these questions.

    I just coincidentaly notices this church, when I was in Chester, and thought it

    was fun, to see

    place-names, and buildings, named after a

    Norwegian king, that we learned about at school,

    in Norway.

    And at school, in Norway, we, as far as I remember, only learned about that

    York, or 'Jorvik',

    like the Vikings called the town or city,

    was a Norwegian Viking-town or city.

    But we didn't learn about, that there were viking setlements, in Cheshire and

    Merseyside.

    So I wasn't aware of, that there was Viking-buildings, in Chester, when I went

    there, so I was

    a bit surprised to see the church, and

    read about it on the internet, so that was very fun.

    I thought that maybe this church, could be

    one of the few buildings etc,. that remained,

    after the Vikings, that had to leave

    Ireland.

    In Norway, we learn at school, that Vikings founded Dublin etc., but we don't

    learn that

    they went to England, after they lost

    control in Ireland, so this was fun to learn.

    So sorry again that I'm asking a lot of questions, and thanks in advance, if

    you have the

    time to explain about any of the questions

    which I've ask!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    This message has been checked

    for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software

    viruses, which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform

    your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be

    monitored as permitted by UK legislation.

    This message and any attachment

    are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information.

    If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and

    immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information

    contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed

    by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the

    University of Nottingham.

    This message has been checked

    for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software

    viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform

    your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be

    monitored as permitted by UK legislation.

    This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and

    may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in

    error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use,

    copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any

    attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not

    necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham.

    This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment

    may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you

    are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the

    University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation.






  • Her er mer fra min kusine Rahel, (med norskfødt mor, min tante Ellen), som er skuespillerinne i Berlin, (selv om jeg ikke skjønner hva hun prater om)

    PS.

    Det var søstera mi, Pia Ribsskog, som fikk Rahel til å begynne å røyke, da vi besøkte tante Ellen og Rahel og Joakim, (vår eldre ‘mongolide’ fetter), i Sveits, sommeren 1987, (da Rahel vel bare var ni år gammel, eller noe):

    PS 2.

    Her har Rahel laget en video med sin nesten nyfødte sønn, til melodien ‘Cherry Blossom Girl’.

    Det passer vel dårlig, det blir vel som å kalle en gutt for ‘jente’.

    Hm.

    Dette her syntes jeg var spesielt.

    Her er mer om dette:

    PS 3.

    Her ser man at min kusine Rahel prater om marijuana.

    I Sveits, så dyrka tante Ellen, (Rahels mor), en type mild marijuana, som hun fant i fuglefrø-poser, i hagen, husker jeg at hun fortalte meg og søsteren min Pia, da vi var der nede på ferie, sommeren 1987.

    Så det var nok litt sant, det bestemor Ingeborg sa en gang, mens jeg jobba som leder på Rimi, at vi var en kunstnerfamilie.

    Tante Ellen fortalte, i 1987, at marijuanen, var noe hun fant i fuglefrø-poser, av et spesielt merke.

    Hun fortalte også, at hun noen ganger sendte en del av marijuanen, til en venninne i Danmark, og kalte det for ‘urtete’.

    Pakkene gikk visst da problemfritt gjennom posten.

    Men men.

    Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

    Så sånn var det.

    Så vi får se hva som skjer.

    Vi får se.

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS 4.

    PS 5.

    Rahel er datter av tante Ellen og Reto Savoldelli, (som har vært på johncons-blogg), som vel har laget (blant annet) den filmen her, tror jeg:

    PS 6.

    Jeg og søsteren min Pia, var med Rahel og besøkte Reto Savoldelli, da vi var i Sveits, sommeren 1987.

    Men Rahel tulla og dro i snora på bussen, for tidlig.

    Så vi måtte ringe sånn at faren til Rahel kunne få henta oss, på halvveien deromkring.

    Så sånn var det.

    Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

    Så vi får se hva som skjer.

    Vi får se.

  • Gluten-allergikere blir forfulgt?

    Er det sånn at de som har gluten-allergi blir forfulgt, lurer jeg nå.

    (Siden jeg ikke får rettighetene mine osv).

    At det er en krig mot glutenallergikere?

    Fra sionistene, eller lignende?

    Altså, det er jo noe spesielt med blodet og genene til gluten-allergikerne.

    De kommer nok fra en annen menneskerase, enn de som ikke er allergikere.

    Det er noe spesielt med DNA-et osv.

    Gluten-allergikere tåler ikke vanlig hvete, rug og bygg.

    Så det må være snakk om en mennesketype, som var vanlig i steinalderen, før jordbruket kom, som jeg har arvet tarmsystemet mitt etter.

    Så her er det nok snakk om hemmelige nettverk som tuller med glutenallergikere, mistenker jeg.

    Bare se på gluten-allergiker foreningen sin hjemmeside.

    (De heter noe med cølaki-foreningen da).

    Der mangler den ene funksjonen etter den andre, for å sende e-poster osv.

    Så det er tydelig at gluten-allergikerne ikke er inne i varmen, i det moderne samfunnet, vil jeg si.

    Kan det være riktig at det er en slik krig?

    Min søster, Pia Ribsskog, har også en gang, for ca. 10 år siden, i leiligheten sin i Tromsøgata, i Oslo, hintet ovenfor meg, at det finnes andre måter enn hudfarge, å dele menneskeraser inn i, blodtyper for eksempel, sa hun.

    Så sånn var det.

    Så det er nok noe med blodtypene og glutenallergien, tror jeg.

    Som holdes skjult i pressen osv.

    Er det dette som er ‘Cosa nostra’, ‘vår sak’, for mafiaen, en krig mot glutenallergikerne?

    Hvem vet.

    Vi får se hva som skjer.

    Vi får se.

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS.

    Her er mer om dette:

    mer om dette gluten

    http://www.ncf.no/

  • Denne var litt vrien, men jeg får gjøre et forsøk. Vi får se

    johncons tromsø il

    http://vgd.no/sport/fotball-norsk/tema/1571488/tittel/konspirasjon-mot-tromsoe-il/side/1

    PS.

    Men vi vet jo det, at min søster, Pia Charlotte Ribsskog, fra Larvik, må man vel si, hun sa det, i det Herrens år 1981, kan det kanskje ha vært, at vår mor, Karen Ribsskog, hadde sagt det, om et hus i Øvre Jegersborggate, i Larvik, at ‘bort der, til det huset, må dere ikke gå, for der bor tante Ellen, (som egentlig bodde i Industristrasse, i Aech, i Sveits da), og hun maner dere’.

    Så jeg regner med at det er enten søstera mi, Pia Ribsskog, eller tante Ellen (Savoldelli), og muligens samene, som kanskje tuller.

    Det er mitt beste tips foreløbig.

    Men jeg får prøve å ha det her litt i bakhodet.

    Så vi får se hva som skjer.

    Vi får se.

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

  • Min 59 x tipp-oldemor, Frigg, (som dagen fredag er oppkalt etter), drev visst og spant skyene. Det var artig

    spant skyene

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FriggSpinning.jpg

    PS.

    Her er mer om dette:



    Direkte ane (62 generasjoner)

    Deg Karen Margrethe Elisabeth Ribsskog Ingeborg Elisabeth Ankerita Ribsskog (Heegaard) Karen Margrethe Heegaard (Nyholm) Mary Eva Carla Nyholm (Fog)

    din mor

    hennes mor

    hennes mor

    hennes mor


    Ludolph Erasmi Fog
    Henrik Georg Fog Rasmus Jørgensen Fog Jørgen Rasmussen Fog Rasmus Jørgensen Fog

    hennes far

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far


    Magdalene Davidsdatter Fog (Foss)
    David Lauritsen Foss Laurits Foss Maren Foss (Pedersdatter Thøgersen Løvenbalk) Peder Thøgersen Løvenbalk

    hans mor

    hennes far

    hans far

    hans mor

    hennes far


    Thøger Jensen Løvenbalk
    Jens Lauridsen Løvenbalk Laurits Mogensen Løvenbalk Mogens Jensen Løvenbalk Jens Nielsen Løvenbalk

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far


    Niels Eriksen Løvenbalk
    Erik Christoffersen Løvenbalk Christoffer II Klipping, Konge af Danmark Erik V Glipping, Konge af Danmark Christoffer I Konge af Danmark

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far


    Valdemar II Sejr Konge af Danmark
    Sophia Dronning av Danmark (von Minsk Poloz, Fürstinn zu Novgorod) Vladimir "Wolodar" von Minsk Poloz. Fyrste av Novgorod Anastasia V Fyrstinne av Wladimir Kunigunde Graffinn von Weimar

    hans far

    hans mor

    hennes far

    hans mor

    hennes mor


    Adele Graffinn von Löven
    Lambert II Graff von Löven Gerberge von Niederlothringen Karl Hertug av Niederlothringen Gerberge av Tyskland

    hennes mor

    hennes far

    hans mor

    hennes far

    hans mor


    Heinrich I av Tyskland
    Otto den store Hertug av Saksen Ludolf Hertug av Saksen Bruno I Hertug av Saksen Wigbert Hertug av Saksen, Bayern og Wes

    hennes far

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far


    Geva av Danmark
    Sigurd Ring Randveig Radbardsson Aufhr Den dypsindige. Ivarsdotter Ivar Vidfadne Halvdansson

    hans mor

    hennes far

    hans far

    hans mor

    hennes far


    Halvdan "Sjnalle" Haraldsen
    Harold Valdarsson Valdar Hroarsson Hroar Halfdansson Halfdan Frodasson

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far


    Frodi Hræreksson Fridleifsson
    Fridleif Frodasson Frodi "Fridsami" Danasson Olafsson Dan Olafsson Olaf Vermundsson

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far


    Vermund Frodasson
    Frodi Havarsson Haver Fridleifsson Fridleif Frodasson Frodi Fridleifsson

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far

    hans far


    Friedleif Skjoldsson
    Skjold Danskekonge Frigg (Friege) Frea

    hans far

    hans far

    hans mor

    Viste denne profilen

    Frigg (Friege) Frea


    Tilbake til slektstreet


    Født:
    Ca 219
    Død


    Bilder


    Nærmeste familie

    Odin (Woden)

    Hennes mann

    Skjold Danskekonge

    Hennes sønn








    http://www.myheritage.no/site-family-tree-67419522/ribsskog#!profile-1000403

    PS 2.

    Og min 59 x tippoldefar, Odin, han har jo fått dagen onsdag oppkalt etter seg.

    Og hans sønn, tordenguden Thor, (som også er min slektning, siden han var halvbror, av min 58 x tippoldefar, Skiold Danskekonge), han har jo fått dagen torsdag oppkalt etter seg.

    Og den norrøne guden Ty, som tirsdag er oppkalt etter, skal visst også være sønn av Odin, ifølge Edda vel.

    Så det er vel bare på søndager, mandager og lørdager, at jeg ikke kan si at dagen er oppkalt etter noen i slekta mi.

    Det var ganske artig.

    Men men.

    Men vi får se hva som skjer.

    Vi får se.

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS 3.

    Det første året, som søstera mi bodde i Oslo, (skoleåret 1991/92 vel), for å jobbe gjennom vikarbyrå og sånn vel, på barnehager i Oslo Vest osv.

    (Det vil si det tredje året jeg bodde i Oslo, som student på NHI og butikkmedarbeider på OBS Triaden da).

    Så mener jeg at søstera mi, spilte den sangen, som het Orb – Little Fluffy Clouds, hele tiden.

    Så jeg lurer på om søstera mi har visst om det her med at vi var etter Odin og Frigg og de norrøne gudene osv., men ikke har sagt noe til meg?

    Hvem vet.

    Jeg lurer nå ihvertfall.

    Så sånn er det.

    Så vi får se hva som skjer.

    Vi får se.

    PS 4.

    Det er mulig at det var det året som søstera mi bodde hos meg, på Bergeråsen, at hu spilte den the Orb-sangen hele tida, når jeg tenker meg om.

    Det var isåfall skoleåret 1988/89.

    Så sånn var det.

    PS 5.

    Her er mer om dette:

  • Jeg sendte en e-post til Politiet i Steinkjer







    Gmail – Oppdatering/Fwd: [Fwd: Erik Ribsskog]







    Gmail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Oppdatering/Fwd: [Fwd: Erik Ribsskog]





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:06 AM





    To:

    post.nord-trondelag@politiet.no



    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: <mihovil.persson@sverige.nu>

    Date: 2010/11/19
    Subject: [Fwd: Erik Ribsskog]
    To: eribsskog@gmail.com

    Du måste ta bort mitt brev från din blogg.

    ————————— Ursprungligt brev —————————-

    Ärende: Erik Ribsskog

    Från: arnemogan@gmail.com

    Datum: Fr, 2010-11-19, 06:24 pm

    Till: mihovil.persson@sverige.nu

    ————————————————————————–

    Min sinn syke sønn har lagt ut ditt brev på Internett.

    http://johncons-mirror.blogspot.com/2010/11/jeg-sendte-en-anmeldelse-av_18.html

    Beklager mye. Han har paranoid psyk. diagnose, prøver å stoppe han. Ikke

    send mail til han.

    —————————————–

    Skaffa gratis e-post du också på http://www.sverige.nu






    PS.

    Det jeg har tenkt de siste dagene nå.

    Det er at kanskje faren min, og andre i familien min, jobber for den albanske mafiaen?

    For dem er litt sånn tøffe, hele gjengen, som om dem skulle ha vært albanere, eller noe.

    Og når vi dro på ferie, sommeren 1980, så dro vi til Istra, i Jugoslavia, som vel ikke er så langt fra Albania.

    Kanskje gjennom min onkel Runar, som studerte i Oslo, og tok flysertifikat osv.?

    Eller gjennom min far, Arne Mogan Olsen, sin kamerat Atle, fra Oslo?

    Hm.

    Vi dro ihvertfall på to ferier til Gøteborg, og bodde på hoteller hvor det var en albaner som var vakt ved svømmebassenget, for eksempel.

    (Dette var vel da jeg gikk i 8. eller 9. klasse).

    Og jeg var den eneste gutten/mannen.

    Og faren min sa jeg måtte være med.

    Og de andre som var med, var Haldis Humblen, Solveig Rasmussen (telegrafisten på Scandinavian Star, ei venninne av Haldis), min farmor Ågot Mogan Olsen, min søster Pia Ribsskog og hennes stesøster Christell Humblen.

    Hvorfor måtte jeg dra til Gøteborg, med alle de damene/kjærringene/jentene?

    Det syntes jeg var spesielt.

    Så jeg lurer på om det er noe med Gøteborg og albanere og faren min.

    Det er nok ikke umulig.

    Faren min og brødrene hans, (Håkon Mogan Olsen og Runar Mogan Olsen), pleide ihvertfall ofte å kjøre til Sverige, når de var i slutten av tenårene, osv.

    Enda faren min ikke likte Volvo, han sa at det ikke var bil.

    Men men.

    Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

    Ikke vet jeg.

    Faren min blander seg ihvertfall, i ting som ikke er hans business.

    Jeg er jo 40 år nå, mener jeg, og ikke 4 år.

    Og jeg har jo kutta ut faren min.

    Jeg har jo anmeldt han, siden han dreiv med bølleringing, til meg, for et par år siden.

    Og jeg har også anmeldt han for omsorgssvikt, siden han lot meg bo alene, fra jeg var ni år, på Bergeråsen, i Vestfold.

    Og faren min truet også meg og min søster Pia Ribsskog, og hennes stesøster Christell Humblen, en julaften, på Bergeråsen, midt på 80-tallet, da vi var midt i tenårene cirka vel, om at han ‘visste ting om alle oss tre’, da vi var litt misfornøyde på grunn av et eller annet, en julekveld, på 80-tallet da, og søstera mi og Christell blei litt som to skremte høns omtrent, siden faren min trua oss, de fikk vel panikk, mer eller mindre, vil jeg si, og liksom virra litt rundt seg selv da, med sjokk/panikk i blikket, eller noe. Men men.

    Så sånn var det.

    Men vi får se hva som skjer.

    Vi får se.

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

  • Man kan se at Johanitterordenen har røde og hvite striper. Dette bringer tilbake minner, fra 80-tallet

    johanitterordenen røde og hvite striper

    http://www.johanniterorden.se/

    PS.

    Og på midten av 80-tallet, så var det en periode, i Norge, (ihvertfall i Drammens-regionen), som alle skulle gå med stripete Ball-gensere.

    Og de som jeg husker gikk med rød og hvit-stripet (Ball) genser, det var Line Nilsen i klassen min på ungdomsskolen, og 2. klasse på Sande videregående, (som Karl i klassen sa at familien til var rike, og som jeg lurer på om faren min kjente faren til, og som en gang satt på Scotch, med ‘hoste-sangen’, i formingstimen, i 7. eller 8. klasse vel, etter at jeg hadde spurt henne om det Karl sa, at de var rike, var sant. Line Nilsen svarte ikke. Linda Moen sa at dem burde gi han ‘hosteren’ i sangen et glass vann).

    Men men.

    Magne Winnem hadde også en rød og hvit-stripet genser, som jeg lånte av han en gang, husker jeg, mens som da var alt for lang på arma.

    For jeg var fattig student og hadde ikke så mye klær, da jeg flyttet til Oslo, i 1989. Jeg kjøpte dress, og fikk låne et Carlsberg-slips, av Magne Winnem, som han kanskje hadde fått gjennom Rimi, (et slips jeg fikk etterhvert, tror jeg, som jeg brukte hver helg på byen i Oslo). Så jeg fikk låne klær av Winnem noen ganger, siden jeg hadde så få klær selv. Men men. Og det var vel en Ball-genser, fra midten av 80-tallet, tror jeg, som jeg maste meg til å låne vel, rundt 1990 kanskje, da Winnem bodde i Rimi-leilighetene på St. Hanshaugen, med rød og hvite striper.

    Jeg lurer på om stesøstera mi, Christell Humblen, (eller min fars stedatter, og min søster, Pia Ribsskog, sin stesøster, blir vel riktigere).

    Jeg lurer på om ikke hu også pleide å gå med rødt og hvitt.

    Og da jeg dro til England, på språkreise, til Brighton, sammen med min tremenning Øystein Andersen, sommeren 1988.

    Så var jeg noen dager på besøk, hos mora mi, på Borgheim, i Tønsberg.

    (Dette var muligens mens hun bodde på institusjon der, for jeg og søstera mi var noen ganger og besøkte henne, på en institusjon for sinnslidende/folk med nerveproblemer, på Borgheim, før mora vår fikk sin egen leilighet, også på Borgheim, noen få hundre meter fra den institusjonen vel. Noe sånt).

    Og da, så dro søstera mi, Pia Ribsskog, og mora mi, Karen Ribsskog, meg med på Cubus eller Hennes og Mauritz, i Tønsberg, med bussen fra Borgheim, en dag.

    For jeg ‘trengte nye klær å ha på meg, i England’.

    (Selv om de aldri pleide å bry seg noe særlig om hvordan klær jeg gikk med, hverken før eller siden vel).

    Og da, så valgte Pia og mora mi ut en hvit jakke og en hvit bukse, for meg.

    Kritt hvite klær.

    Og hvitt betyr vel kristen vel?

    Hm.

    Så jeg tror det kan være noe med disse fargene på klær noen ganger.

    Magne Winnem likte ikke svarte gensere, husker jeg, fra 1989 eller 1990.

    Så spurte jeg hvorfor, så svarte han ikke.

    Så det litt hemmelighold, om dette med disse fargekodene, tror jeg.

    Men men.

    Bare noe jeg tenkte på.

    Så vi får se hva som skjer.

    Vi får se.

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS 2.

    Her er den ‘hoste-sangen’, til Line Nilsen, fra formingstimene, på Svelvik ungdomsskole, på 80-tallet, igjen:

    PS 3.

    Noe annet som jeg husker at ble sagt, om Line Nilsen, på Svelvik Ungdomsskole, det var at hu ble kalt ‘Nils’.

    Fra 2. klasse på Sande Videregående, så husker jeg at det ble sagt, i et av friminuttene, av en eller annen jente i klassen vel, at Line Nilsen, brukte et så skikkelig tjukt lag av nivea-krem, på leppene, før hu satt utfor i slalom-bakken.

    Sånn at leppene ble helt hvite visstnok.

    Noe sånt, mener jeg å huske at ble sagt, på Sande Videregående, i den Handel og kontor-‘brakka’ vår.

    Noe sånt.

    Så sånn var det.

    Bare noe jeg tilfeldigvis kom på nå.

    Så vi får se hva som skjer.

    Vi får se.

    PS 4.

    Søstera mi, Pia Ribsskog, skjønte nok mer av disse her farge-kodene på klær.

    For søstera mi, hu gjorde et poeng av, at Iver Karlsen, fra Sande/Berger, som var sammen med stesøstera hennes, Christell Humblen, det året jeg gikk på skole i Drammen, det vil si skoleåret 1988/89.

    At han Iver Karlsen, visstnok var med i en gjeng, på Sande videregående, (hvor søstera mi, Pia Ribsskog, gikk det året, selv om hu vanka i Drammen, nesten mer eller mindre hver dag), som ble kalt for ‘stripe-gjengen’.

    Så det her, med ‘stripe-gjengen’, kan kanskje ha vært noe med noen eventuelle farge-koder på klær, tenker jeg nå.

    Hvem vet.

    Men vi får se hva som skjer.

    Vi får se.

    PS 5.

    Her er mer om dette:

    mer om ball genser

    http://www.google.no/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ostlendingen.no/polopoly_fs/back-to-the-80-ies-jo-da-du-ser-riktig-andre-l-nnum-og-gitte-schjerven-hanssen-har-trukket-i-ball-1.4475448!/image/526423624.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_article_468/526423624.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ostlendingen.no/arkiv/ball-genseren-er-tilbake-1.4475449&usg=__OVTxR1sQC1qK6ueD_dF_esJH4dY=&h=718&w=468&sz=162&hl=no&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=VzAQ7PZpWJvoLM:&tbnh=141&tbnw=92&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dball%2Bgenser%26hl%3Dno%26prmdo%3D1%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D709%26tbs%3Disch:10,300&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=435&ei=EZblTNTNLoGHhQfIx7i7DA&oei=EZblTNTNLoGHhQfIx7i7DA&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=29&ved=1t:429,r:17,s:0&tx=53&ty=84&biw=1280&bih=709