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  • From: eribsskog@gmail.com Erik Ribsskog
    To: Sarah.Brown@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk Sarah Brown
    Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:47:41 +0000
    Subject: Re: IPCC Case Reference 2007/017332

    Hi,

    thank you very much your answer!

    But the Standards Unit don’t even know their own e-mail address.

    And when I go there to discuss the complaint against the Police, then I’m
    being harassed.

    I’m not sure if it’s right that I should go back to the meetings with the
    Police then.

    I think that would like saying that I liked to be harassed, and thats not
    what I mean at all.

    Do you understand what I mean now?

    Thank you very much again for your answer!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On 12/11/07, Sarah Brown wrote:
    >
    > Dear Mr Ribsskog,
    >
    > Thank you for your emailed dated 07 December 2007.
    >
    > Your new complaint will need to be raised separately from your current
    > appeal. This is so that if the police are unable to resolve the matter to
    > your satisfaction you then have the right of appeal to the IPCC.
    >
    > With regards to your lose of confidence in the police investigation into
    > your complaint. Unfortunately whilst the police are conducting an
    > investigation into your complaint the IPCC is unable to intervene and is not
    > able to dictate which department carries out this investigation. You will
    > need to speak to the Professional Standards Department (PSD) of Merseyside
    > Police to discuss further.
    >
    > If you would like to proceed with the next stage of your complaint please
    > provide your consent on the form I sent to your postal address on the 30
    > November 2007. Your consent will allow me to forward your complaint details
    > to the Professional Standards Department of the Merseyside Police for their
    > consideration.
    >
    > Yours sincerely,
    >
    > *Sarah Brown*
    > *Casework Manager*
    > *Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC)*
    > *90 High Holborn, London WC1V 6BH*
    > *Phone: 0207 166 3934*
    > *sarah.brown@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk*
    >
    > ——————————
    > *From:* Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    > *Sent:* 07 December 2007 16:14
    > *To:* Sarah Brown
    > *Subject:* TRIM: Re: IPCC Case Reference 2007/017332
    >
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > thank you very much for your answer!
    >
    > I’m not sure if you think that this case should be dealt with together
    > with the other compalaint and appeal-case (see the last e-mail I sent your
    > collegue).
    >
    > And I was also enquiering, in connection with the e-mail I sent some weeks
    > ago, were I explained that I seem to have lost a bit
    > of confidence with the police department conducting the investigation, so
    > I was wondering if you think that it would maybe be
    > possible for another department to handle the complaint and appeal, like
    > I’ve enquiered about earler.
    >
    > And I havn’t recieved an answer to this enquiery.
    >
    > And I was wondering if I maybe should have had receved such an answer,
    > because, now I’m not sure how to reply to the
    > Merseyside Police, regarding the letter that I sent a scanned copy of,
    > with the e-mail to your collegue.
    >
    > So I was wondering who I should contact, if I was wondering how to go
    > forward with this.
    >
    > Hope that this is alright, and thanks in advance for the help!
    >
    > Yours sincerely,
    >
    > Erik Ribsskog
    >
    >
    > On 12/7/07, Sarah Brown wrote:
    > >
    > > Dear Mr Ribsskog,
    > >
    > > Thank you for contacting the Independent Police Complaints Commission
    > > (IPCC). Miss Joanne Fitzgerald has asked me to reply to your email
    > > regarding your new complaint. If I could inform you that Miss Fitzgerald no
    > > longer works within the casework department of the Commission and so will no
    > > longer have involvement in the handling of your complaints.
    > >
    > > I am the Casework Manager for your new complaint surrounding issues you
    > > raised about a female front desk staff member at the Walton Lane Police
    > > Station. If you would like to continue with the next stage of the
    > > complaints process please provide your consent on the form that I sent you
    > > on the 30 November 2007. Once your consent has been received I will forward
    > > your complaint details to the Professional Standards Department of the
    > > Merseyside Police for consideration.
    > >
    > > Please note that the details of your new complaint have been noted under
    > > reference : 2007/017332. Please quote this reference when contacting the
    > > IPCC regarding your new complaint.
    > >
    > > Yours sincerely,
    > >
    > > *Sarah Brown*
    > > *Casework Manager*
    > > *Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC)*
    > > *90 High Holborn, London WC1V 6BH*
    > > *Phone: 0207 166 3934*
    > > *sarah.brown@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk*
    > >
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  • What has the Governments of Norway and Britain been doing?

    Have they done so much wrong that they don’t deer to bring this out in the open?

    Against a normal citizen?

    Coward swine!

  • I think that I could see, when I walked to the shops today to buy food, that the Police, were watching me in the corners of their eyes, due to the way they walked when they crossed the street close to the Hogs Head pub a bit more than an hour ago.

    And I thought it was strange that Saintsburys in North John St. was sold out of bread this early (around 14.00).

    The manager said that they had made a mistake with the order.

    But I remember from working as a shop manager in Norway, that if we had ordered to little, then we tryed to get an extra deliviry.

    And to order bread is only difficult around the holidays like Christmas and Easter.

    An ordinary tuesday, then you sell about the same as the ordiary tuesday of last week.

    So I don’t think a well run shop should run out of bread this early.

    They should have noticed in the morning, if it was something wrong with the amount of bread delivered.

    And that a well-run, should make an error with the order, for a regular Tuesday(?)

    I’m not buying this.

    And the 16 year old browned-haired girl on the way to the other Saintsburys?

    Whas she employed by the police?

    And how come, the Sainsbury shop in the Nations House were so stocked up with bread.

    And the three Sainsbury-staff, close together by the bread-department in the North John St. shop, seemed arranged to me.

    Every day I go out, the police are using people dressed like ordinary people and shop/bank staff etc. to spy on me.

    At least this is how it seems to me.

    I don’t think the Police have got the right to do this.

    I think the Police must have done something wrong, since they don’t deer to tell what they have done.

    I think I have the right to now what’s going on.

    It’s supposed to be an open society.

    I think the Police must have been doing something wrong, since they don’t deer to deal with this.

    And they are just dragging it out, which means that they are breaching my human rights.

    Since they are acting inhumane.

    They don’t deer to deal with this openly.

    They don’t deer to say what they have done, but choose to spy on people and breaching their human rights.

    I’m not sure who’s more girly, the Police, or the sixteen year old girl on the way to the Nation House Sainsburys.

    Thats my opinion at least.

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    Message 1**, 5 Days Ago
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    Message 2 – posted by Alan Amp, 4 Days Ago
    Dear John, What the heck are you talking about ?
    Your problem seems to be that you have a very shallow knowledge of your subject and have not grasped the Nettle as they say.. We want more in depth analysis on the matter from you . Please come back when you can do this.

    Message 3 – posted by CanveyCove, 4 Days Ago
    A/A, you could ask him to speak simple English.

    Message 4 – posted by johncons**, 4 Days Ago
    Ok I’ll try to summarise it shortly:
    It’s like if you have a boss at work, and you’re working with answering phone-calls.
    And, your boss is yelling at you (through the room), that your phone is on wrap-up, and that you have to start answering the calls again, since the five seconds has passed (since the last call).
    This, regardless, on if you are doing a worktask that needs to be done, in the meantime.
    And the managers are trained to do this, and the method, is call ‘negative reinforcement’.
    So I was wondering were one could find more about ‘negative reinforcement’, in conection with management.
    Because, when I searched on the internet, I could almost only find it in connection with the training of animals, like dogs and horses.
    So, I was wondering if anyone knew, where ‘negative reinforcement’, fittet in, when it comes to the field of management theory.
    Since I havn’t heard about this method (negative reinforcement), in the management/organisation mudules at had at school and uni-level.
    And they didn’t teach about ‘negative reinforcement’ on the courses in practical management etc., that I participated on, when I was working as a store manager in Norway.
    So I was wondering if anyone knew more about the use of ‘negative reinfocement’ in management?
    I haven’t lived that long in Britain, so it’s possible that I’ve done a lot of spelling mistakes etc.
    But please just ask if there is anything that needs to be made more clear, and I’ll try to explain as good as I can.

    Message 5 – posted by Rob***, 4 Days Ago
    Probably!

    Message 6 – posted by CanveyCove, 4 Days Ago
    This is like me playing music, the right notes, for above put words, but seem to be in the wrong order. Where did you learn English? Not here.

    Message 7 – posted by hywel, 3 Days Ago
    I think you mean punishment and not negative reinforcement. Negative reinforcement is when I tie an iron ball to the talon of my pigeon and remove it only when he has pecked all the crumbs from my magnificent beard.

    Message 8 – posted by pompomwhiting, 3 Days Ago
    Perhaps the N.H.S. wasn’t so bad after all.
    Pom thinks that I.T. personel deserve their big wage and will not be tempted to go on a course.

    Message 9 – posted by johncons**, 3 Days Ago
    I think you mean punishment and not negative reinforcement. Negative reinforcement is when I tie an iron ball to the talon of my pigeon and remove it only when he has pecked all the crumbs from my magnificent beard.
    Quoted from this message

    Well couldn’t this be similar with that they shout at the representatives, and only stop, when they answer the phones within five seconds?
    At least the team-leader in the meeting, refered to it as reinforcement, which they had learned at team-leader training.

    Message 10 – posted by johncons**, 3 Days Ago
    This is like me playing music, the right notes, for above put words, but seem to be in the wrong order. Where did you learn English? Not here.
    Quoted from this message

    Well it’s a bit of topic I guess, but since I’ve started explaining about it, it’s from school in Norway, summer school in England, uni. in Sunderland and work in Liverpool.

    Message 11 – posted by johncons**, 3 Days Ago
    Perhaps the N.H.S. wasn’t so bad after all.
    Pom thinks that I.T. personel deserve their big wage and will not be tempted to go on a course.
    Quoted from this message

    Well, it was a minimum wage job, at around £5 an hour.

    Message 12 – posted by Devon_Dumpling, 3 Days Ago
    John, I’m a team leader in a call centre down south.
    If I treated my crew like that they’d be gone within minutes. I’ll carry on treating the like normal people, works wonders

    Message 13 – posted by johncons**, 3 Days Ago
    I’ve checked the pay now by the way.
    Just so that I’m not saying anything wrong here.
    It was 5.25/hour as Randstad employee, and 5.85/hour as Arvato staff.
    (Randstad staff could get paid for working over-time, but for Arvato staff only interflex).
    (Just so that I’m not writing anything wrong, because I don’t know exactly to the nearest pence, what the minimum-wage is at the moment. And I guess this pay is really a bit above minimum-wage, so I thought I’d try to write it accurate. The figures are by the way from last year).

    Message 14 – posted by PlainAshington, 3 Days Ago
    Why didn’t you just say it was agency work and you got shouted at for not grafting beyond the humanly possible?
    Perfectly normal in the British work place.

    wik.ed.uiuc.edu/inde…

    Message 15 – posted by hywel, 3 Days Ago
    At least the team-leader in the meeting, refered to it as reinforcement, which they had learned at team-leader training.
    Quoted from this message

    Well the ‘team leader’ was using the word incorrectly. This team leader training sounds pretty cowboyish. No management theory would advocate this kind of behaviour. It is bullying and illegal.

    Message 16**, 3 Days Ago
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    Message 17 – posted by johncons**, 48 Minutes Ago
    I thought I’d just add a short anecdote, while I was at it, so to speak.
    While I was working at Arvato, in the Cunard building, I took this picture, with a view of the Mersey.
    So I was just wondering about the sculptured picture, on the wall of the Cunard building, if anyone knew which ancient god or person this sculpture is of?
    Thanks very much for the help in advance!
    farm2.static.flickr….

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  • I just called McDonalds now on 020 8700 7000.

    And got transfered to the Customer Services Department.

    And they said (now at 1.23 pm, it says on my note), that the e-mail address
    sometimes work, and sometimes it doesn’t.

    So we agreed that I would try to send an again a bit later, and have a look and see if the e-mail address is working again then.

    So we’ll see.

  • From: postmaster@agilisys.co.uk System Administrator
    To: eribsskog@gmail.com
    Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:07:54 +0000
    Subject: Undeliverable: Fwd: Complaint – Food Poisoning

    Your message

    To: customerservices@mcdonalds.co.uk
    Subject: Fwd: Complaint – Food Poisoning
    Sent: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:08:07 -0000

    did not reach the following recipient(s):

    customerservices@mcdonalds.co.uk on Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:07:43 -0000
    Unable to deliver the message due to a communications failure
    The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=us;a=
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  • From: eribsskog@gmail.com Erik Ribsskog
    To: customerservices@mcdonalds.co.uk
    Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:08:07 +0000
    Subject: Fwd: Complaint – Food Poisoning

    Hi,

    I got an error-message with this e-mail, so I’m trying to send it again.

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog
    Date: Dec 10, 2007 12:03 PM
    Subject: Complaint – Food Poisoning
    To: customerservices@mcdonalds.co.uk

    Hi,

    I think I must have been food-poisoned at your resturant in Lord St. in
    Liverpool, the
    day before yesterday.

    I’ve explained about this on my blog, so I’m going to link to the blog,
    since I’m still
    not feeling very good, so I’m just linking it to the blog:

    https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/12/big-mac.html

    and

    https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/12/big-mac-ii.html

    So I was wondering if I could please complain about this formally.

    And I hope very much that you have the chance to deal with a responsible
    way!

    Thank you very much for you help in advance!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

  • From: postmaster@agilisys.co.uk System Administrator
    To: eribsskog@gmail.com
    Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:02:40 +0000
    Subject: Undeliverable: Complaint – Food Poisoning

    Your message

    To: customerservices@mcdonalds.co.uk
    Subject: Complaint – Food Poisoning
    Sent: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:03:03 -0000

    did not reach the following recipient(s):

    customerservices@mcdonalds.co.uk on Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:02:36 -0000
    Unable to deliver the message due to a communications failure
    The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=us;a=
    ;p=netdecisions;l=UKLDNBH010712101202YNWAJTMV
    MSEXCH:IMS:Netdecisions:NETDECISIONS:UKLDNBH01 0 (00120345) Too Many
    Hops

  • From: eribsskog@gmail.com Erik Ribsskog
    To: customerservices@mcdonalds.co.uk
    Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:03:03 +0000
    Subject: Complaint – Food Poisoning

    Hi,

    I think I must have been food-poisoned at your resturant in Lord St. in
    Liverpool, the
    day before yesterday.

    I’ve explained about this on my blog, so I’m going to link to the blog,
    since I’m still
    not feeling very good, so I’m just linking it to the blog:

    https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/12/big-mac.html

    and

    https://johncons-blogg.net/2007/12/big-mac-ii.html

    So I was wondering if I could please complain about this formally.

    And I hope very much that you have the chance to deal with a responsible
    way!

    Thank you very much for you help in advance!

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

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