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    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:21 AM





    To:

    museum@vikingeskibsmuseet.dk



    Hei,

    jeg lurer på om jeg har funnet riktig e-post adresse nå.
    Jeg har funnet et vikingeskip, under en pub, i England, (the Railway Inn, i Meols, på the Wirral).
    Vikingskipmuseet i Norge, ville ikke hjelpe.

    Jeg har snakket med de som jobber på puben og jeg var på Viking konferansen, i Chester, i fjor, og tok opp dette, i en 'spørretime', med ekspertene fra Liverpool National Museum, osv.
    Dette er klinkebygget skip, på 10-15 meter, var det vel.

    Altså omtrent som de skipene dere har funnet i Roskilde, (vil jeg tippe på).
    Engelskmennene tror at skipet vil råtne, når de graver det opp, så de lar det bare ligge under leira.
    Men jeg tenkte at sånne vikingeskip, de er jo sjeldne.

    Dette er vel antagelig det eneste, klinkebygde skipet, som er i Storbritannia(?)
    Det er vel ellers bare i Norden at man har funnet vikingeskip?
    Dette kan være etter Ingemund, som var fra Dublin, men ble kastet ut av irene, og dro til the Wirral.

    En norsk-irsk vikingehøvding, med andre ord.
    Men jeg er kvart dansk, etter min danskfødte mormor, Ingeborg Ribsskog f. Heegaard, (og hun var etter Odin(!), blant annet, etter Løvenbalk og Plantagenet og de gamle danske konger, osv., faktisk, gjennom min tippoldemor Mary Eva Carla Fog, som var etter Løvenbalk, hvis jeg har forstått slektforskningen riktig).

    Så jeg tenkte jeg kunne høre med dere vikingene i Danmark, siden de norske vikingene ikke er så interessert.
    Jeg har altså startet mitt eget prosjekt, og trenger ekspertise, råd og penger.

    Jeg har lovt de som jobbet på den puben nemlig, at jeg skulle skrive om dette skipet, i Skandinavia.

    Så jeg strever fælt med å prøve å få noen til å hjelpe.

    På forhånd takk for eventuell hjelp!

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: 2011/1/3
    Subject: Fwd: Råd om å grave opp vikingskip i England/Fwd: Råd i forbindelse med utgravingen av et antagelig norsk vikingskip, (langskip), på the Wirral, i England/Fwd: Anmeldelse av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link,

    To: roskildemuseum@roskilde.dk

    Hei,

    hvordan er det i Danmark, har dere noen mulighet til å gi meg råd om dette?
    Hverken Kulturhistorisk Museum, Norsk Sjøfartsmuseum, eller andre, har muligheten.


    Jeg er kvart dansk, etter min mormor Ingeborg Ribsskog f. Heegaard, som var etter Løvenbalk, (og dermed også etter f.eks. Gange-Rolf og Odin), etter sin mormor Mary Eva Carla Fog.
    På forhånd takk for eventuell hjelp!

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Atle Thowsen <Atle.Thowsen@bsj.uib.no>

    Date: 2011/1/3
    Subject: RE: Råd om å grave opp vikingskip i England/Fwd: Råd i forbindelse med utgravingen av et antagelig norsk vikingskip, (langskip), på the Wirral, i England/Fwd: Anmeldelse av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now

    To: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>, "bergens.sjofartsmuseum@bsj.uib.no" <bergens.sjofartsmuseum@bsj.uib.no>

    We here at the Bergen Maritime Museum have neither the

    resources nor the competence to assist you in this matter.

    Med vennlig hilsen
    Stiftelsen Bergens Sjøfartsmuseum
    Atle

    Thowsen
    direktør
    mobil: 9511 8556
    telefon: 55 54 96 00
    hjemmeside:

    www.bsj.uib.no


    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 9:30 PM
    To:

    bergens.sjofartsmuseum@bsj.uib.no
    Subject: Råd om å grave opp

    vikingskip i England/Fwd: Råd i forbindelse med utgravingen av et antagelig

    norsk vikingskip, (langskip), på the Wirral, i England/Fwd: Anmeldelse av

    trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now

    Hei,

    har dere noe råd om å grave opp vikingskip, i England, i Bergen, for jeg

    fikk råd om at jeg kunne høre med diverse sjøfartsmuseer osv., om det her, på

    internett.

    Jeg fant et vikingskip, som er klinkebygget, og er et langskip, under

    parkeringsplassen, til en pub, på the Wirral.

    Da en lokal 'innfødt' tipset meg om dette skipet.

    Jeg lovet de som jobbet på puben, at jeg skulle prøve å ta opp det her, på

    min blogg osv., i Norge.

    Tar gjerne imot tips om konserveringen av skipet, for britene tror at

    skipet vil råtne straks det blir gravd opp, og noen svensker har rådet de til å

    la skipet bli under leira.

    Så det trengs noen norske rådgivere, siden dette nok er snakk om et norsk

    vikingeskip, siden det er i den delen av the Wirral hvor den norsk-irske

    vikinghøvdingen Ingemund, dro til, etter å ha blitt jaget av irene fra Dublin

    osv.

    På forhånd takk for eventuell hjelp!

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date:

    Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:33 AM
    Subject: Råd i forbindelse med utgravingen av

    et antagelig norsk vikingskip, (langskip), på the Wirral, i England/Fwd:

    Anmeldelse av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with

    Amazon link, now resolved
    To: kundeservice@niku.no

    Hei,

    jeg har startet arbeidet med å prøve å få hjelp til å grave opp et

    vikingskip, som jeg har blitt gjort oppmerksom på, her i England.

    Jeg gikk for å se på vikinghavnen i Meols, og da sa en brite, som jogga

    forbi, at under puben the Railway Inn, så lå det et viking langskip.

    The Wirral var et gammelt, norsk vikingland, (omtrent som Isle of Man), så

    dette er nok snakk om norske vikinger.

    Skipet er klinkebygget, fant man ut, da man tilfeldigvis fant

    skipet.

    Det ligger under leire, og er godt bevart.

    Skipet er vel unikt i Storbritannia, hvor man ikke har

    vikingskipmuseum, såvidt meg bekjent.

    Engelske forskere, som en professor, ved National Museums Liverpool, som

    holdt foredrag på en vikingkonferanse, som jeg var på, i Chester, for noen uker

    sider, sier at skipet vil råtne, med en gang det blir gravet opp.

    Stemmer dette, lurer jeg.

    Det finnes jo vikingskip i museer i Norge og i andre land i Norden, så

    det høres rart ut, å si at skipet bare vil råtne, synes jeg.

    Hvordan løses dette i Norge?

    Hva bruker man på treverket, for at det ikke skal råtne, når man graver

    opp vikingskip?

    Mvh.

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS.

    Jeg prøver også å finne organisasjoner i Norge, som kan hjelpe til, med

    midler/personell til utgravingen, for man mangler midler i England, (hvor de

    kanskje er mest glad i romersk arkeologi).

    PS 2.

    Jeg håper dere kan hjelpe, for de neste på lista til Riksantikvaren, er

    Roskilde i Danmark, og det her er snakk om norske vikinger, så det blir litt

    dumt å kontakte Danmark.

    PS 3.

    Her er Riksantikvarens e-post om dette:

    From: Haustveit, Gunvor <gunvor.haustveit@ra.no>

    Date:

    2010/10/18

    Subject: Svar på spørsmål "hjelp med å grave opp vikingskip i

    England"

    To: eribsskog@gmail.com

    Hei og takk

    for
    e-post.

    Det er flere

    kompetansesentra og forskere som er dyktige på feltet

    om

    vikingskip. Anbefaler først og fremst: Kulturhistorisk museum

    med
    Vikingskipshuset, dernest Norsk Maritimt Museum og Norsk Institutt

    for
    kulturminneforskning. I Danmark er det kompetanse ved Roskilde

    museum.

    Lykke til!

    Helsing
    Gunvor Haustveit
    Informasjonsseksjonen
    Riksantikvaren
    Postboks 8196

    Dep
    0034 Oslo

    Tlf: + 47 98 20 27 60

    www.riksantikvaren.no

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Frode Kvalø <Frode.Kvalo@marmuseum.no>

    Date: Mon, Dec 13, 2010

    at 8:56 AM
    Subject: RE: Anmeldelse av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book –

    Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved
    To: Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    Cc: Per Gisle Galåen <Per.Gisle.Galaen@marmuseum.no>, "emb.london@mfa.no" <emb.london@mfa.no>, "gunvor.haustveit@ra.no"

    <gunvor.haustveit@ra.no>, "post.sondre.buskerud@politiet.no" <post.sondre.buskerud@politiet.no>, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    To

    Erik Ribsskog and associates

    I

    have involuntarily been drawn into in this unpleasant e-mail correspondence and

    I have no interested in being a part of it!

    If

    there is a ship of Nordic design dating to the Viking period in a Pub somewhere

    in England that is a fascinating story. However, I’m content that our

    British colleges have the knowledge and skills to deal with such finds.

    This

    is not something the Norwegian Maritime Museum will prioritize to get involved

    in!

    Please, do not contact me concerning this matter again!

    Frode Kvalø

    Head

    of Archaeology

    Norwegian Maritime Museum

    Fra: Stephen Harding [mailto:Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk]

    Sendt: 11. desember

    2010 09:05
    Til: Erik Ribsskog; Stephen Harding
    Kopi: Per

    Gisle Galåen; emb.london@mfa.no; gunvor.haustveit@ra.no; Frode Kvalø; post.sondre.buskerud@politiet.no

    Emne: RE:

    Anmeldelse av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with

    Amazon link, now resolved

    Dear

    Erik,

    Ingi

    Thor Jonsson, along with Wirral and Liverpool’s cultural ambassador Mike

    McCartney has done a tremendous amount of work over the last 4 years in

    strengthening the links between Merseyside/ the North West and the Nordic

    countries through the annual Nordic Cultural Events (NICE) Festival, and the

    suggestion of you making contact was made because of the (mistaken) impression

    you may wish to contribute to these efforts. With respect to the Viking

    Conference at Chester and the splendid exhibition provided for the public to

    enjoy the regions great Viking Heritage this was all provided completely free

    of charge
    – as was the buffet – thanks to the tremendous efforts of the

    staff of the Grosvenor Museum, and all the feedback we have had – apart from

    your comment – has been very positive. As a Wirral man going back very many

    generations I am very proud of what has been achieved. The food provided

    was free and if you did not like it there were other places to buy food nearby.

    If you missed the start of the meeting and the introduction so you did not

    know who the speakers were this was not the fault of the organisers.

    Nontheless we appreciate your interest in the Vikings in our region but if you

    wish to communicate with us in future please refrain from using offensive

    language otherwise your emails will be blocked. The talks will be posted

    on the website as soon as we can,

    Best

    wishes

    Steve Harding

    From: Erik

    Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    Sent: 10 December 2010

    19:46
    To: Stephen Harding
    Cc: Per Gisle Galåen; emb.london@mfa.no; gunvor.haustveit@ra.no;

    frode.kvalo@marmuseum.no; post.sondre.buskerud@politiet.no
    Subject: Anmeldelse

    av trakassering/Fwd: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link,

    now resolved

    Hi,

    the Icelandic guy

    you said I'd get along well with is gay you b*stard.

    Now I don't wan't

    to update you anymore.

    Good luck with the

    Pakistani Samosa food on the Viking-conference.

    I think you must

    be a muslim guy mobbing me.


    Don't want

    anything more to do with you.


    Erik

    Ribsskog

    ———-

    Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:17

    PM
    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link,

    now resolved
    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    yes, I didn't

    understand the routine, to get on the conference.


    But, I haden't

    seen the exhipition yet, Reap and Pillage, so I just went to Chester that day,

    but the train was a few minutes early, so I got there a bit

    late.

    And then I spoke with the people working there,

    at the museum, who got me in there, after the first break.

    I understood it

    like that one only had to register at the museum, from your

    website.


    But now I

    understand, that I should have ordered a ticket.


    This wasn't

    clear to me, from reading your website.

    But, this is just

    a hobby for me, with the viking-stuff on the Wirral, so I read about it like I

    would have read an online newspaper etc.


    But next time

    I'll make sure to contact the hosts before I go to a conference like

    that.


    Sorry about

    that misunderstanding again!

    It sounds very

    fine about the video of the conference.


    I'll update

    you if I hear more from the Norwegian Maritime Museum, about the Vikingship,

    under the pub, Railway Inn, in Meols.

    Thanks again for

    arranging the fine viking conference!

    Best

    regards,


    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Stephen

    Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

    Thanks Erik. We are waiting to receive the video material (and

    permissions) on the conference and hopefully you should be able to

    catch up on the Introduction and the other talks you missed at the start.

    This will also be of benefit to others, particularly the many people

    who wanted to attend but were unable to get tickets.

    Paa gjensyn,

    Steve




    From: Erik

    Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 10

    December 2010 14:16
    To: Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk
    Subject: Fwd:

    Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now

    resolved

    Hi,

    that is, I don't

    want to have this as a life-style, with football-games at the Wirral and be

    mate with the Icelandic guy from the Scandinavian Church,

    etc.


    I only care

    about the viking-stuff on the Wirral etc.


    Because I

    have a lot of different interests, like blog, genealogy, web-design, etc.,

    etc.


    So I haven't

    got that much spare-time.


    So this

    isn't about the community-stuff, this is just about the vikingship and the

    conference.


    Hope you

    include the questions from the audience, (from me and others), in the summary,

    since I brought up about the vikingship in Meols etc.


    Hope this is

    alright, don't mean to be to direct/inpolite.


    Best

    regards,


    Erik Ribsskog

    PS.


    Maybe I'll

    go on a movie, or something, part of the Nordic festival, but I haven't got

    the time to go there all the time, unfortunately.

    I thought about

    going on Max Manus, (the Norwegian was-movie), in the Scandinavian chruch last

    year.


    And I asked

    a young Swedish woman, Amanda, who works at Netto, Weaverthree, if she had

    been at the Scandinavian Church, but she hadn't.

    Also, I have an

    employment-case, against Bertelsmann Arvato Microsoft Scandinavian Product

    Activation:

    Perhaps you know

    someone at the University of Nottingham, who could help me with this case, as

    a pro-bono-case, because this case involved/involves many Scandinavians living

    in Liverpool.

    (My alumumni, at

    University of Sunderland, haven't replied).

    Also, some of

    the employees there, had a lot to do with the Scandinavian Church, (and are

    included in the case), an Irish/Swede called Michael O'Shaughnessy etc., so

    I'm a bit vary about the Scandinavian Church, to be frank.


    So I think

    I'll only keep this at the level it's been at, that I only go to the odd

    trip/event at my own choice..


    Hope this is

    alright!

    ———-

    Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    Date: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:53

    PM
    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book – Apologies for problems with Amazon link,

    now resolved
    To: Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk>

    Hi,

    ok, perhaps I'll

    do that!

    Thank you very

    much for your help!

    I'll update you

    as soon as possible, if I hear something more from the Vikingship-experts in

    Norway.


    Thank you

    very much again for your reply!

    Best

    regards,


    Erik Ribsskog

    On Fri, Dec 10,

    2010 at 10:22 AM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

    Thanks Erik

    We'll put a summary up soon on http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve and may be able to

    include some videos of the talks – including the Intro – once we

    have permission from the speakers. If you like I can also put

    you in touch with Ingi Thor Jonsson – like yourself a resident

    Livepudlian – who runs the annual NICE (Nordic Cultural Events) Festival,

    I think you and Ingi would get on very well. There will eventually be a

    book based on the Conference but that won't be for some

    months,

    Ha det bra

    Steve

    Vikings: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve




    From: Erik

    Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    Sent: 07 December 2010

    14:53
    To: Stephen Harding
    Subject: Re: Viking DNA book –

    Apologies for problems with Amazon link, now resolved

    Hi,

    thank you very

    much for you e-mail!


    I've now

    sent about the Vikingship in Meols, to the Norwegian Maritime Museum, at

    Bygdøy, in Oslo.


    They are

    also experts on vikingships, and the conserving of these, like Cultural

    Historical Musum, in Oslo are.

    I'll update

    you more, if and when I hear back from them.


    Has anyone

    written a summary from the viking-conference, which I could write about on

    my blog, since I have a travel-blog etc., where I write about my short

    travels from Liverpool to different Norwegian Viking places in the

    Wirral.


    Thanks in

    advance for any help!


    Yours

    sincerely,


    Erik Ribsskog

    On Tue, Dec 7,

    2010 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Harding <Steve.Harding@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

    Dear all,

    Firstly apologies for the

    bulk nature of this email again and secondly apologies to those who have had

    difficulty accessing the book (with its marvellous foreword by Michael Wood)

    through amazon.co.uk.:

    Although because of the

    demand (many thanks!) the site says "Out of Stock" if you click on the "2

    new" you should be able to order the book immediately and in time for

    Christmas. Thirdly apologies if you have no interest in the

    Vikings!

    All best

    wishes

    Steve, Turi and

    Mark




    From: Harding Stephen

    Sent: 02 December 2010

    14:41
    To: undisclosed recipients
    Subject: Viking DNA

    book

    Dear Colleagues (including many of you who took part in the

    genetic survey of northwest England, 2002-2007, or the Nordic Festival in

    2008)

    Apologies if you get this message more than once! We are

    writing to bring to your attention a publication we have just

    produced. It focuses on the first part of a genetic survey of

    northern England – the Wirral and West Lancashire project in the

    northwest – and explains the basis behind the DNA method to probe

    ancestry, the use of surnames to help to localize volunteers to specific

    regions of the country, and how genetic methods are being used in

    conjunction with historical, archaeological and linguistic evidence to learn

    about Viking ancestry. It also gives some examples from

    individual results and from comparing populations of people to help show

    what these new technologies can achieve.

    Publication of the book has been supported by one of the UK

    Research Councils who have been supporting the study (the Biotechnology and

    Biological Sciences Research Council) – and Nottingham University Press in

    conjunction with Countyvise Limited have very kindly produced this for us

    and indeed done a splendid job. We would like to stress that we

    as authors are not taking any Royalties or profit!

    The book is introduced with

    a brilliant foreword by famous UK/BBC historian/broadcaster Michael

    Wood
    after which we set out to show as clearly as we can, with the

    help of full colour illustrations – what DNA is and how DNA methods can be

    used to probe both individual and population ancestry. For probing

    Viking ancestry it shows the importance of using DNA in conjunction with

    historical, linguistic, place name and archaeological evidence – again with

    the help of many colour illustrations, and explains how DNA can be used to

    probe paternal ancestry and maternal ancestry either for individuals or for

    populations of people, explaining also some of the sometimes complicated

    jargon that scientists use.

    A major problem in studying

    population ancestry is the large population movements that have occurred

    since the Industrial Revolution. However there is a strong link

    between surnames and paternal DNA ancestry and the book explains how

    information such as Henry VIII’s tax rolls, , and even criminal records

    (including someone accused of killing a dog in 1348 …. found not guilty!)

    can be used to help establish the volunteer base for specific regions of

    northern England. Using these methods significant Scandinavian

    ancestry (up to 50% of the mixture of DNA from the old populations) has been

    shown for Wirral and West Lancashire. One youngster from Wirral

    was so impressed with the results for her father she wrote a School

    project “My Viking Dad and his Viking Dog”! The book finishes with a look

    towards the current testing of other regions of Northern England and the

    research currently being undertaken with colleagues in Norway to study the

    genetic profile of Scandinavia in the Viking Age.

    This broadcast on BBC Radio

    4 gives some more information about the survey: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/making_history/making_history_20080520.shtml (after

    the first minute or so)

    So we think it will be a useful read for anyone interested in DNA

    ancestry and, after seeing what we have done in the North West, give people

    from other regions an idea of how their own past could be

    researched. The book is 150 pages long and extensively

    illustrated in colour.. The book has just

    become available in all good bookshops in the north West or from

    Amazon.co.uk *and would make an excellent Christmas

    present.

    Steve Harding, Mark Jobling and Turi King





    Stephen Harding

    DSc(Oxon)

    Professor of Applied

    Biochemistry

    NCMH

    Laboratory,

    University of

    Nottingham

    Sutton

    Bonington

    LE12 5RD, UK

    http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

    steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk
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    [03:31] ->> ivers is irclol@81.175.61.223 (ivers)
    [03:31] ->> ivers is on: #blablatemp #ocshoot.no
    [03:31] ->> ivers using irc.Prison.NET (Prisoners of the Internet…)

    [03:31] ->> ivers :End of /WHOIS list.
    [03:31] ->> 81.175.61.223 resolved to 81.175.61.223
    [03:31] <@_cons_> 81.175.61.223 NO NORWAY AKERSHUS AS NITTEDALSNETTET AS

    [03:32] <@_cons_> hva er det du vil fra skedsmo follo der da ivers
    [03:32] <@_cons_> har du noe med han take-over karen på #quiz-show å gjøre
    [03:32] <@_cons_> han bor vel i skedsmo

    [03:32] <@_cons_> ndugu
    [03:32] <@_cons_> eller noe
    [03:50] <@_cons_> fra blablaquiz:
    [03:50] <@_cons_> [03:49] <@_cons_> skorpion: hva er det du mener med det her da:

    [03:50] <@_cons_> [03:49] <@_cons_> [20:10] <skorpion> men du har rett i det
    [03:50] <@_cons_> [03:49] <@_cons_> [20:10] <skorpion> jeg kan være purk
    [03:50] <@_cons_> [03:49] <@_cons_> hadde du noe med at jeg fikk fire politifolk på døra tidligere i kveld

    [03:50] <@_cons_> [03:49] <@_cons_> som tok øksa mi?
    [03:50] <@_cons_> [03:50] <@_cons_> er det noe illuminati eller?
    [04:32] <@_cons_> [03:57] <@skorpion> nei, jeg mente bare at du har rett i det at jeg KAN være purk for alt du vet

    [04:32] <@_cons_> [03:57] <@skorpion> jeg er ikke det, men du vil jo ikke ta mitt ord for det
    [04:32] <@_cons_> [03:59] <@skorpion> det var den "fanklubben" som sladra, btw.

    [04:32] <@_cons_> [03:59] <@skorpion> "Merseyside Police fikk en telefon 21:45 norsk tidvedrørende disse truslene. This will be forwarded to the local office and dealt with within 10-60 minutes, ble det sagt."

    [04:32] <@_cons_> [03:59] <@skorpion> står om det på den uautoriserte fanklubbsiden
    [04:32] <@_cons_> [04:03] <@skorpion> men god natt
    [04:32] <@_cons_> [04:03] <@skorpion> *ZZZZZzzzzzzzzz*

    [04:32] <@_cons_> [04:31] <@_cons_> nei det synes jeg er helt latterlig
    [04:32] <@_cons_> [04:31] <@_cons_> for det er jo ikke noe ulovlig ved å forsvare sin egen leilighet

    [04:32] <@_cons_> [04:31] <@_cons_> så her har hat-bloggen og politiet misforstått mener jeg
    [04:32] <@_cons_> [04:32] <@_cons_> det er synd det skal være så mye dumskap i verden

    [04:32] <@_cons_> [04:32] <@_cons_> men men
    [04:32] <@_cons_> [04:32] <@_cons_> så sånn er det
    [04:38] <@_cons_> [04:34] <@_cons_> hvordan går det med studiene da skorpion

    [04:38] <@_cons_> [04:34] <@_cons_> jeg synes du studerer johncons-blogg og quizzen nesten
    [04:38] <@_cons_> [04:34] <@_cons_> men men
    [04:38] <@_cons_> [04:35] <@_cons_> du må ikke la det gå ut over studiene da

    [04:38] <@_cons_> [04:35] <@_cons_> du som går til psykolog og sånn
    [04:38] <@_cons_> [04:35] <@_cons_> men jeg det er kanskje ikke min business
    [04:38] <@_cons_> [04:36] <@_cons_> bare synes det er litt spesielt

    [04:38] <@_cons_> [04:36] <@_cons_> du må ikke bli helt besatt liksom
    [04:38] <@_cons_> [04:36] <@_cons_> av bloggen og quizzen mener jeg
    [04:38] <@_cons_> [04:36] <@_cons_> sånn at du glemmer studiene osv mener jeg

    [04:38] <@_cons_> [04:36] <@_cons_> bare som et quiz-kollega råd
    [05:17] * blabot3 (johncons@192.228.79.201.spexhost.com) Quit ( Read error: Connection reset by peer )

    [05:20] * blabot3 (johncons@192.228.79.201.spexhost.com) has joined #blablatemp
    [05:33] * _cons_ sets mode +o blabot3 for #blablatemp
    [05:33] ->> You are now known as cons_

    [06:46] * ivers was kicked by cons_ (~v_beider@host86-160-17-169.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) Reason (idle)
    [06:52] <@cons_> mer fra blablaquiz:

    [06:53] <@cons_> [05:17] * blabot3 (johncons@192.228.79.201.spexhost.com) Quit ( Read error: Connection reset by peer )
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    [06:53] <@cons_> [05:33] * _cons_ sets mode +o blabot3 for #blablaquiz
    [06:53] <@cons_> [05:33] ->> You are now known as cons_
    [06:53] <@cons_> [06:51] <@cons_> og skorpion, du skilte så mye, syntes jeg, mellom husverten og politiet

    [06:53] <@cons_> [06:51] <@cons_> mennesker er mennesker, er dem ikke det da
    [06:53] <@cons_> [06:51] <@cons_> det er vel politiet som synes at politiet er så mer verdt?
    [06:53] <@cons_> [06:51] <@cons_> det er vel bare politiet

    [06:53] <@cons_> [06:52] <@cons_> og du sier også at du ikke liker politiet og autoriteter
    [06:53] <@cons_> [06:52] <@cons_> men du har jo jobbet som vekter
    [06:53] <@cons_> [06:52] <@cons_> det virker snodig for meg

    [06:53] <@cons_> [06:52] <@cons_> du er undercover-purk tipper jeg
    [06:53] <@cons_> [06:52] <@cons_> eller noe mafia som samarbeider med snuten
    [06:53] <@cons_> [06:52] <@cons_> right?








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    [01:39] ->> Topic is: Dette er en kanal for meg og mine kjente. Hvis noen andre lurer på noe spes., så vennligst si fra med en gang du dukker opp her. Quiz på #blablaquiz
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    [07:45] ->> Topic set by cons_away!~v_beider@host86-148-191-119.range86-148.btcentralplus.com on 18/03/2011 07:18:10
    [07:45] –Quizzie2– Velkommen til #Quiz-show! Skriv "!ask" for å starte eller "!qhelp" for hjelp ( version 0.8.1, © by Moxon <moxon@meta-x.de>)

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    [10:58] –Quizzie2– Velkommen til #Quiz-show! Skriv "!ask" for å starte eller "!qhelp" for hjelp ( version 0.8.1, © by Moxon <moxon@meta-x.de>)

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    [11:18] <Malin> hvorfor blir jeg kicket?
    [11:23] <@cons_> ikke lov å idle her

    [11:23] <@cons_> hvis det er noe du vil si så må du spytte ut med en gang
    [11:24] ->> Malin is gibke@208.98.9.39 (Malin Svenske)
    [11:24] ->> Malin is on: #blablatemp #blablaquiz

    [11:24] ->> Malin using irc.underworld.no (Underworld EFnet Client Server)
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    [11:25] <@cons_> hva gjør du her malin svenske?
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    [11:28] –Quizzie2– Velkommen til #Quiz-show! Skriv "!ask" for å starte eller "!qhelp" for hjelp ( version 0.8.1, © by Moxon <moxon@meta-x.de>)

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    [11:28] <Malin> 11:26 < Malin> Ikke log å idle? hvem sier det ikke er lov å idle på IRC?
    [11:28] <Malin> 11:27 < Malin> Hvorfor idler du i leiligheten din? Du er jo kastet ut!

    [11:28] <Malin> 11:27 < Malin> Syntes det er dårlig gjort jeg.
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    [19:17] <ivers> Wat ?
    [19:17] <ivers> Idle ?
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    [19:35] <gorg> Jens Petter Bratlie. Kjør koz
    [19:35] <gorg> cons; kontakt meg ved HAHAHAHA.
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    [20:04] <skorpion> hallo?
    [20:05] <@_cons> hva er det du vil da skorpion

    [20:05] <skorpion> jeg lurer på noe spes
    [20:05] <@_cons> spytt ut
    [20:05] <skorpion> ang. bloggen, rettigheter osv.
    [20:06] <@_cons> spytt ut
    [20:06] <skorpion> så da tenkte jeg at jeg kunne spørre her, så det går riktig for seg

    [20:06] <skorpion> jo
    [20:06] <skorpion> jeg så du hadde kjøpt øks
    [20:06] <skorpion> er det til han husverten kommer?
    [20:06] <@_cons> ja det er til å hogge ned han husvert-medarbeideren det vet du

    [20:06] <skorpion> er ikke det litt drastisk?
    [20:06] <skorpion> om jeg kan få innvende
    [20:06] <@_cons> eller hvem som helst andre som prøver å bryte seg inn
    [20:07] <skorpion> politiet også?

    [20:07] <@_cons> nei det går under 'castle' doktrinen
    [20:07] <@_cons> som de har her i england
    [20:07] <skorpion> hva er det?
    [20:07] <@_cons> fælt så nesevis du var da

    [20:07] <skorpion> jeg mener ikke å være nesevis
    [20:07] <skorpion> jeg bare lurer

    [20:07] <skorpion> det kan jo hende han henter politiet, mener jeg
    [20:07] <skorpion> *lese*
    [20:07] <@_cons> jobber du for purken eller
    [20:07] <skorpion> nei

    [20:08] <skorpion> jeg bor jo i Norge
    [20:08] <@_cons> så du kan ikke jobbe for purken siden du bor i norge?
    [20:08] <@_cons> goddag mann økseskaft kalles det
    [20:08] <skorpion> nei, men ikke purken i england

    [20:09] <@_cons> har du hørt om interpol
    [20:09] <@_cons> er du så dum at du ikke skjønner at politiet samarbeider over grensene?
    [20:09] <skorpion> jeg kan veldig lite om sånt

    [20:09] <skorpion> men du vet da vel at jeg ikek er noe purk?
    [20:10] <@_cons> jeg kjenner jo ikke deg fra RL
    [20:10] <skorpion> nei nei
    [20:10] <@_cons> gå å vær idiot et annet sted da

    [20:10] <skorpion> jeg driver med quiz og sånt jeg
    [20:10] <@_cons> du irriterer meg
    [20:10] <skorpion> ikke purk
    [20:10] <@_cons> piss det er en hobby det

    [20:10] <skorpion> greit
    [20:10] <@_cons> jeg får deg i vrangstrupen nå skorpion
    [20:10] <skorpion> greit
    [20:10] <@_cons> peker
    [20:10] <skorpion> men det var altså ikke meningen

    [20:10] <@_cons> der er døra
    [20:10] <skorpion> men du har rett i det
    [20:10] <skorpion> jeg kan være purk
    [20:10] <@_cons> så stikk da
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    [20:10] <@_cons> takk
    [20:14] <@_cons> det var akkurat som om han spionerte eller noe nå, syntes jeg
    [20:14] <@_cons> (for bloggen)
    [20:14] <@_cons> men men

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    [20:17] <skorpion> "The intruder must be acting illegally—e.g. the Castle Doctrine does not give the right to attack officers of the law acting in the course of their legal duties"

    [20:17] <skorpion> fra den linken du gav
    [20:17] <skorpion> sÃ¥ ville ikke gÃ¥tt sÃ¥ langt, var jeg deg – om han kommer med politiet
    [20:17] <skorpion> bare et vennlig råd

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    [20:18] <@_cons> i svarte h. da
    [20:19] * _cons sets mode +b skorpion!*@* for #blablatemp

    [20:23] <@_cons> fra blablaquiz:
    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:19] <@_cons> skorpion: nå vil jeg ikke ha deg på blablatemp mer
    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:19] <@_cons> virker som du jobber for purken eller noe

    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:19] <@_cons> er lei av det pisset dit
    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:19] <@skorpion> hvor får du det fra?
    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:20] <@_cons> jeg vil ikke ha deg der skjønner du det

    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:20] <@skorpion> bare fordi jeg stiller et spørsmål, så får du det til at jeg er purk?
    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:20] <@skorpion> ja, jeg skjønner det
    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:20] <@_cons> jeg permbanner deg ihvertfall

    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:20] <@skorpion> greit
    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:20] <@skorpion> virker som om du er i ferd med å miste grepet her
    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:20] <@skorpion> du ser jo ting som overhodet ikke har noe med virkeligheten å gjøre

    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:21] <@_cons> hvis du ikke slutter å prate piss om meg så perm-banner jeg deg her og
    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:21] <@skorpion> jeg som hater purken og etablissementent, skulle liksom være purk

    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:22] <@skorpion> det er du som prater piss om meg, vil jeg si, for dukaller meg purk. enda jeg har gjort det klart at jeg er anti-etablissement/ant i-autoritær
    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:22] <@_cons> okey sorry da

    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:22] <@skorpion> greit
    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:22] <@_cons> men du fyker inn på blablatemp enda jeg har bedt deg om å stikke
    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:22] ->> skorpion is ~jadda@116.79-160-164.customer.lyse.net (skorpion)

    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:22] ->> skorpion is on: #bergen @#blablaquiz
    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:22] ->> skorpion using irc.inet.tele.dk (Better than WoW)

    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:22] ->> skorpion :End of /WHOIS list.
    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:22] <@_cons> men samma det
    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:22] <@skorpion> jeg leser jo blogg som alle andre. og tenkte jeg kunne ta det der, for du har sagt at du vil ha blogg-ting der

    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:23] <@_cons> ja men nå perm banner jeg deg der
    [20:23] <@_cons> [20:23] <@skorpion> greit
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    [21:15] <amanita> Hei Lillegutt
    [21:18] <Lillegutt> Hei

    [21:19] <Lillegutt> hvordan går det med jobbsøkinga i england?
    [21:34] <@_cons> dere får følge med på bloggen
    [21:34] <@_cons> det er mest hvis det er noe viktig dere vil si fra om det her

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    [21:41] <amanita> Men det er jo tøffere å få oppdateringer LIVE.
    [21:41] <amanita> Hvordan gikk det med videoblogging? Fikk du lest på adressene jeg gav deg?
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    [22:01] <tavarich> hei _cons
    [22:01] <tavarich> jeg lurte på en ting
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    [22:02] <tavarich> hvor får man tak i en sånn hendig øks ?

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    [22:53] ->> Topic set by cons_away!~v_beider@host86-148-191-119.range86-148.btcentralplus.com on 18/03/2011 07:18:10
    [22:53] –Quizzie2– I know about 727 questions.

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    [23:18] –Quizzie2– Velkommen til #Quiz-show! Skriv "!ask" for å starte eller "!qhelp" for hjelp ( version 0.8.1, © by Moxon <moxon@meta-x.de>)

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  • Gmail – Complaint about Police/Fwd: Complaint about the Police in the UK







    Gmail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Complaint about Police/Fwd: Complaint about the Police in the UK





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:23 PM





    To:

    "general.queries@justice.gsi.gov.uk" <general.queries@justice.gsi.gov.uk>


    Cc:

    inquiries2@un.org, emb.london@mfa.no, mail.gva@efta.int



    Hi,

    is it right that one can't have an axe, in ones flat, for self-defence, in the UK?
    I think this sounds strange.

    How are one supposed to protect oneselves from burglars etc?

    My landlord, (Imperial Properties), wants to throw me out, on the street, without a possessoning-order.
    I think I have the right to defend myself.
    Thanks in advance for any help!

    Yours sincerely,
    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:09 PM
    Subject: Complaint about the Police in the UK
    To: inquiries2@un.org
    Cc: emb.london@mfa.no, mail.gva@efta.int

    Hi,

    the Police in the UK, (four police-men), just now threatend to break down my door, and go through my house, and takes an axe, that I have in self-defence, after over-hearing I'm followed by the 'mafian'.

    They must have been spying on me.
    I'm really refugee from Norway.
    My landlord threaten to throw me out.
    I can't live on the street.

    Can you please tell the UK, to stop mess with me?
    Yours sincerely,
    Erik Ribsskog
    PS.
    I attach a picture of the Police going through my kitchen.

    PS 2.
    I'm not sending this to the IPCC, since they are just messing with me.





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  • Gmail – Complaint about the Police in the UK







    Gmail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Complaint about the Police in the UK





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:09 PM





    To:

    inquiries2@un.org


    Cc:

    emb.london@mfa.no, mail.gva@efta.int



    Hi,

    the Police in the UK, (four police-men), just now threatend to break down my door, and go through my house, and takes an axe, that I have in self-defence, after over-hearing I'm followed by the 'mafian'.

    They must have been spying on me.
    I'm really refugee from Norway.
    My landlord threaten to throw me out.
    I can't live on the street.

    Can you please tell the UK, to stop mess with me?
    Yours sincerely,
    Erik Ribsskog
    PS.
    I attach a picture of the Police going through my kitchen.

    PS 2.
    I'm not sending this to the IPCC, since they are just messing with me.





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  • Gmail – RE: TRIM: Re: Your concerns about Merseyside Police







    Gmail



    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    RE: TRIM: Re: Your concerns about Merseyside Police





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:07 PM





    To:

    Caroline Wilson <Caroline.Wilson@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk>


    Cc:

    inquiries2@un.org



    Besides, one can't trust the English police because they are pigs, I learned when I was at summer-school, in Brighton, in the 80's.

    Erik Ribsskog
    ———- Forwarded message ———-

    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    Date: Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:32 PM
    Subject: Fwd: TRIM: Re: Your concerns about Merseyside Police

    To: Caroline Wilson <Caroline.Wilson@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk>
    Cc: inquiries2@un.org


    Trim may refer to:

    • Cutting small pieces off something
    Is this the same as the Merseyside Police call me miss that your a mafia-whore, and to cut my pecker off?
    Erik Ribsskog


    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    Date: Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:22 PM

    Subject: Fwd: TRIM: Re: Your concerns about Merseyside Police
    To: Caroline Wilson <Caroline.Wilson@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk>
    Cc: inquiries2@un.org

    And first you refer to my complaint, from 2007, and comment about it, and then in the next e-mail you don't want to discuss the complaint you brought up yourself.

    That's very strange I think.

    And this with Trim, on top of that.

    This is very strange I think.
    I think maybe someone in charge, at the IPCC, should answer about this, and give me a second opinion, if that's alright.

    Hope this is alright!

    Regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>


    Date: Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:17 PM
    Subject: Fwd: TRIM: Re: Your concerns about Merseyside Police
    To: Caroline Wilson <Caroline.Wilson@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk>

    Cc: inquiries2@un.org

    Who is Trim by the way, if I can ask.

    Erik Ribsskog
    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:13 PM
    Subject: Re: TRIM: Re: Your concerns about Merseyside Police
    To: Caroline Wilson <Caroline.Wilson@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk>

    Cc: inquiries2@un.org

    Hi,

    thank you very much for your e-mail!
    Are you sure I should write a new complaint about the same issues?
    Shouldn't the old case have been cleaned up?

    The complaint-process just stalled, and has never been put back right again.
    Shouldn't someone investigate what has been goving on?
    Do you have an IPCC complaint-unit?

    (Since I think it's a bit strange that I have to complain about the same issues twice).
    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Caroline Wilson <Caroline.Wilson@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:

    Dear Mr Ribsskog

    Thank you for your email.

    The IPCC is an independent organisation, I am

    therefore unable to comment on your complaint about Merseyside Police. I

    have provided you with details of how to make a complaint against them and can

    only advise that you consider submitting a new complaint in order to progress

    matters.

    I have not looked in detail at your previous cases and

    complaints with the IPCC as I did not consider this to be relevant to your

    enquiry. Your comments have been noted but I have nothing further to add on

    this matter.

    Yours sincerely

    Caroline Wilson

    Customer Contact

    Advisor

    Independent Police Complaints Commission

    1st Floor,

    Oaklands House,

    Washway Road, Sale,
    M33 6FS
    Tel:

    0161 246 8561

    Email:caroline.wilson@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk


    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 23 March 2011 14:19
    To: Caroline Wilson
    Cc:

    inquiries2@un.org
    Subject: TRIM: Re: Your concerns about Merseyside

    Police

    Hi,

    so you think it's ok for the Merseyside Police to call me 'Miss Erik

    Ribsskog'?

    I also wrote an appeal, to the IPCC, which was upheld.

    Why don't you mention this in your summary?

    Have the files been messed with?

    Erik Ribsskog

    On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Caroline Wilson <Caroline.Wilson@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk>

    wrote:

    Dear Mr

    Ribsskog

    Thank you

    for your email, I am sorry that you did not find the information helpful.

    Having checked our records I note that you sent in a complaint about

    Merseyside Police to the IPCC in 2007. With your consent, we

    forwarded your complaint to them for their consideration in line

    with our procedures. I note that Merseyside Police applied for a dispensation,

    which means that they decided that no further action should be taken, and that

    this was approved by the IPCC, which concluded the matter.

    If you

    wish to make a new complaint about Merseyside Police, you may do so by

    completing the online form on the IPCC website, the link to which I provided

    in my previous email. By law all complaints of misconduct against the

    police must be recorded. The IPCC does not have the power to record complaints

    and any complaint that you submit to us will, in the first instance, be

    forwarded to the Professional Standards Department of Merseyside Police for a

    recording decision, as they are the appropriate authority. I should explain

    that we are unable to forward your complaint unless you give us your consent

    to do so. In other words, if you wish to make a complaint about misconduct of

    Merseyside Police officers you need to be willing to engage with

    them.

    As a way

    forward, I would therefore suggest that you include any concerns you have

    about misconduct of Merseyside Police officers on the online form and submit

    this to begin the complaints procedure through the appropriate

    channels.

    Yours

    sincerely

    Caroline

    Wilson

    Customer Contact Advisor
    Independent Police

    Complaints Commission

    1st Floor, Oaklands House,

    Washway Road, Sale,

    M33 6FS
    Tel: 0161 246 8561
    Email:caroline.wilson@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk


    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 22 March 2011 16:54
    To: Caroline

    Wilson
    Cc: joe.anderson@liverpool.gov.uk; inquiries2@un.org; mail.gva@efta.int; Harker,

    David; emb.london@mfa.no;

    Liverpool County, Enquiries
    Subject: TRIM: Re: Your email

    correspondence to the IPCC

    Hi,

    no, this isn't helpful at all.

    If you read the e-mail again, it should be possible for you to

    understand, that this is a complaint, on that you haven't processed the

    complaint against the Merseyside Police, which I sent you, 3 or 4 years

    ago.

    Now it looks to me, like you make yourself dumb, like we say in

    Norway.

    Have you read my e-mail at all, I'm wondering.

    Sorry if I'm direct now, but I'm really very disappointed in

    you.

    But you have been messing me around for years, so I guess you, (the

    IPCC), will find a way out of this, so that you don't have to do your job,

    again.

    Also at least one of the people writing to me, on behalf of the

    Liverpool County Court today, was a hoax, it seems, from what the County Court

    wrote me directly.

    I think it's so degrading for me to contact the Merseyside Police now,

    after they've called me 'Miss Erik Ribsskog', and after you've not charged

    them/told them off, for this, so I don't like to contact them.

    But I mention it now.

    I'm not sure if I should write regards since you are just messing with

    me, I think,

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS.

    I'm also sending this as an update to the organisations I sent to

    earlier today.

    On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Caroline Wilson <Caroline.Wilson@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:

    Dear Mr

    Ribsskog

    Thank you for

    writing to the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).

    We are an independent body responsible for

    making sure that the police complaints system in England and Wales works

    effectively and fairly.

    It appears that you have

    included the IPCC in correspondence sent to Liverpool County Court relating

    to difficulties you have been experiencing with your landlord. I should

    explain that the IPCC is unable to assist you with these particular issues

    as they do not fall within our remit. You may wish to contact the Citizen's

    Advice Bureau for further advice on how to deal with these

    matters.

    You have however mentioned

    that you complained about Merseyside Police several years ago, but it is not

    clear from your correspondence whether you wish to make a new

    complaint against this police force. I thought it may be helpful to

    explain the process involved, should you wish to

    complain.

    You

    can only make a complaint against the police if you:

    ·

    have

    been the victim of the alleged misconduct of a person serving with the

    police (misconduct could include a police officer or member of police staff

    being rude to you or using unnecessary force, an unlawful arrest, or a

    police officer abusing your rights);

    ·

    were

    present when the alleged misconduct took place, or were close enough to see

    or hear the misconduct, and as a result suffered loss, damage, distress or

    inconvenience, or were put in danger or at risk;

    ·

    are a

    friend or relative of the victim of the alleged misconduct, and

    were distressed by the effects of the incident on the

    victim;

    ·

    witnessed the alleged misconduct; or

    ·

    are

    acting on behalf of any of the above.

    When we receive a complaint, the IPCC must seek the complainant’s

    consent in order to forward the matter to the police force

    concerned. The complaint is then assessed by

    the police and they will decide whether to record it officially.

    If you wish

    to make a complaint about police misconduct, further details about the

    process, as well as our online form can be accessed via the following web

    page:

    http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/Pages/how_complaint.aspx

    I hope this

    response has been helpful to you.

    Yours

    sincerely

    Caroline

    Wilson

    Customer Contact

    Advisor

    Independent

    Police Complaints Commission

    1st Floor, Oaklands

    House,

    Washway Road,

    Sale,

    M33

    6FS

    Tel: 0161 246

    8561

    Email:caroline.wilson@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk


    From: Erik Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]

    Sent: 22 March 2011 12:00
    To: Liverpool County,

    Enquiries
    Cc: joe.anderson@liverpool.gov.uk; inquiries2@un.org; mail.gva@efta.int; Harker,

    David; emb.london@mfa.no
    Subject: Re: To the Superior

    of Mr. Johan Hawley/Fwd: Update/Fwd: To the s uperior of Johan Hawley/Fwd:

    Update/Fwd: Taking my landlord to the County …

    (Caroline)

    Hi,

    thank you for your reply!

    This hoax made me distracted now.

    What initiated my first e-mail was that my Landlord claims he can

    throw me out, without a possession order.

    It's really my Landlord who's supposed to contact the County Court, and

    not me.

    So it's just that my Landlord is writing a lot of non-sense that

    upsets me really.

    Sorry about this!

    Best regards,

    Erik Ribsskog

    PS.

    Here's more about what my Landlord writes:

    From: Kieron Grimes <kierongrimes@tjthomas.co.uk>

    Date: Mon, Mar

    21, 2011 at 3:34 PM
    Subject: Your situation…
    To: eribsskog@gmail.com

    Eric,

    Now there is

    only 2 weeks before your departure.
    I read on your blog you are trying to

    postpone the kick-out, however this idea of yours will never work. I have

    many years experience handling bad tennants, and the same tactic is used

    every time(quoting a law paragraph, hardly any relevance of the

    situation).

    I hope you find a new place in Liverpool. I don't

    understand why you don't look for a new place, as I doubt you want to be

    homeless or live in a church.

    We will meet soon, as I will come to

    the apartment 3th of April to deliver a good-bye

    gift.

    Sincerly,

    Kieron

    Grimes



    PS 2.

    I want to do this properly.

    I don't like it that Mr. Grimes want's to go here with a

    presant.

    I want this to be dealt with in court.

    But like I wrote above, it's really my Landlord who has to take

    this to Court, and what upset me in his e-mail is really just non-sense, the

    way I see it.

    I think I should start to work out a bit more, then maybe I don't

    care about phoney stuff like this.

    The Merseyside Police have called me 'Miss Erik Ribsskog', in a

    letter, that I've put in a compaint of 18 points to IPCC, 3 or 4 yeats ago,

    which they don't reply to.

    Or else I would have sent about the hoax

    with Mr. Johan Hayley to the Merseyside Police.

    But now I think this would be to degrading for me to do, when the

    Merseyside Police haven't been told off, for calling me 'Miss Erik

    Ribsskog'.

    Just to update.

    Thanks again for your reply!

    On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Liverpool County,

    Enquiries <enquiries@liverpool.countycourt.gsi.gov.uk>

    wrote:

    Good

    Morning,

    The county Court

    has received a number or emails from you today, but I must inform you that

    we do not have a member of staff by the name of Johan Hayley working at

    this court. I you wish to take out proceedings at court you must seek some

    legal advice to ensure that you take out the correct type of

    process.

    Regards

    Jim

    Reid

    J

    Reid

    Issue /File

    Registry

    Liverpool Civil

    & Family Court

    Tel: 0151 296

    2403

    —–Original

    Message—–
    From: Erik

    Ribsskog [mailto:eribsskog@gmail.com]
    Sent: 22 March 2011 11:15
    To: enquiries@liverpool.countycourt.gsi.gov.uk

    Cc: joe.anderson@liverpool.gov.uk; inquiries2@un.org; mail.gva@efta.int;

    Harker, David; emb.london@mfa.no
    Subject: To the Superior of Mr. Johan

    Hawley/Fwd: Update/Fwd: To the superior of Johan Hawley/Fwd: Update/Fwd:

    Taking my landlord to the County…

    Hi,

    why do I get an answer e-mail from

    Mr. Johan Hawley, when I send this to the Superior of Mr. Johan

    Hawley.

    I want to bring this case up in the

    County Court, that's my main objective in this.

    Could I please get a reply from Mr.

    Hawleys line-manager, telling me how to do this, if that's

    alright?


    Best regards,

    Erik

    Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message

    ———-
    From: Liverpool County

    Court
    <enquiries@liverpool.countycourt.gsi.gov.uk>
    Date:

    Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:06 AM
    Subject: RE: Update/Fwd: To the superior

    of Johan Hawley/Fwd: Update/Fwd: Taking my landlord to the

    County…
    To: eribsskog@gmail.com

    I'm afraid UK do not have

    the castle doctrine laws. Please search "castle doctrine UK" to see

    evidence or call a lawcentre.

    Also, it's highly unlikely that the

    Council, Merseyside Police, IPCC, Landlord, Microsoft, Order of St. John,

    Goverment in Norway, Goverment in UK, Brits, Muslims or Muslims gangs,

    Illuminists and CAB is messing to you at the same time as you state in the

    emails.

    Instead of emailing what I would belive is prank to us, I

    would recommend you to meet us at our centre to discuss this in detail and

    in a formal manner.

    Regards,

    Johan Hawley

    35

    Vernon Street
    Liverpool Merseyside
    England
    L2 2BX

    DX

    702600 Liverpool 5

    Court number 251


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