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Google Mail – Melder mer ut av statskirka
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PS.
De het (Oliver/Oliur/)Ole Olsen Fosland, (eller noe sånt).
Og Gaulaug Olsdatter, eller noe.
Så sånne er vel det.
Vi får se.
Mvh.
Erik Ribsskog
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Google Mail – Norwegian ancestors in the USA/Fwd: Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan
Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>
Norwegian ancestors in the USA/Fwd: Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan
Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>
Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:19 AM
To:
dennis.michelle@als.lib.wi.us
Hi,I was just wondering if you know, who I can contact, about my
great-grandmother, who was brought up by foster-parents in the USA,
presumably in Jefferson Prairie, which I’ve read is close to Clinton,
Wisconsin.
They were from Rollag, in Norway, and I’ve contacted someone in Rollag
to Rollag (USA), and they said that many people from Rollag, in
Norway, went to Jefferson Prairie.
So I hope you have some leads for me, perhaps, for who I could speak
with, that maybe knows a lot about Norwegian immigrants from Rollag in
Numedal, in Norway, to Jefferson Prairie.
Thanks in advance for any help with this!
Yours sincerely,
Erik Ribsskog
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From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan
To: Dennis Herbranson <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net>
Hi,
yes I have those pages from the Rollag Bygdebøker.
(The library there sent me them, since I contacted them, a few weeks ago).
So I have those scans.
I can try to contact the library in Jefferson Prairie, Wisconsin, and
hear if they have some of information about my great grandmother and
her parents and/or foster-parents.
This link between my family and America, is something that my family
have kept hidden for me.
My father have a new woman, Haldis Humblen, that he has been living
with, since 1980, but not married.
And she has relatives in the Order of St. John, which they also have
kept hidden for me.
And on my mothers side, they have kept hidden, that the baron Adeler,
was in our line.
So there has been a lot of secrecy, in my family, so I have no longer
any bonds to them, so that’s why I have to ask everyone else, about
all these stuff.
So sorry about the inconvenience surrounding this!
Best regards,
Erik Ribsskog
PS.
And when I get more money, I’ll contact Rollag to Rollag back, and
order the book about the people who immigrated to America, from Rollag
in Numedalen.
Thanks very much for the help with this!
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Dennis Herbranson
<rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Erik, do you have access to the Rollag Bygdeboker? I have found the information about your great grandmother, including a picture of her. If you do not, I can scan the information and send it to you.
>
> I looked in our Rollag book and there is nothing about the people you mentioned in our book, so they did not come to Rollag, Minnesota. They may have gone to Jefferson Prairie, Wisconsin as that was another Numedal community in America at that time.
>
> — On Tue, 1/19/10, Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan
> To: "Dennis Herbranson" <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net>
> Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:10 PM
>
> Hi,
> that’s very brilliant!
> I got some of the names wrong, I thought Toeiet meant that they owned in two countries.
> I have some files from Rollag library, in Norway.
> I have them on a blog I write on:
>
> http://johncons-mirror.
blogspot.com/2010/01/na-ma- jeg-si-at-jeg-er-litt-stolt- her.html > I currently live in Liverpool, UK, since I’m a refugee from Norway.
> (I overheard in 2003 and 2004, in Oslo, that I was followed by the ‘mafian’, which I guess could be the communists or muslims.
> Anyway, the police in Norway wont help, and I was a student then, after working as a shop manager, so I didn’t have that much money, so I ended up in the UK).
> I’ll attach a family-tree, so it’s possible to see, that my fathers mother, Ågot Mogans family, were from Rollag in Numedal.
> (I’m also in the noble-lines Gjedde and Adeler, from Denmark and Norway, so that could be why I’m being followed as well I guess).
> So I appriciate any help, since I’m in this difficult situation, so that’s very fine!
> Thank’s very much in advance for any help!
> Sincerely,
> Erik Ribsskog
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Dennis Herbranson <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for your message, Erik. I will see what I can find. I have all the Rollag Bygdeboker and will see if there is any information there as well. May I ask where you currently live? Do you live in Norway?
>>
>> The price of the book is $45 US plus shipping. I think it costs about $25 US to ship a book to Norway. So the total price of the book shipped to Norway would be about $70 US.
>>
>> You asked about criminals in Rollag, Minnesota. No, there were no criminals. They were all poor farmers who came to America to get more land and a better life for their families.
>>
>> Gullek shows up quite often in the Rollag, Norway records, especially back in the 1600s and 1700s. It is an old name, I believe. Gulleksrud would mean Gullek’s clearing, so it had to be a small farm. And Toeiet would be a small husman’s farm on Toen. So I will look there also.
>>
>> I will try to find out some information about your ancestors for you.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> — On Mon, 1/18/10, Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan
>> To: rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net
>> Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 10:50 PM
>>
>> Hi,
>> I was wondering if you have any information, about my great-grandmother Bergit, (or Birgit), Tovsdotter Mogan, who went to the USA, as a foster-child, her uncle, Gullek Gulleksson Toeiet (Gulleksrud), and his wife, Åse Levorsdotter.
>> They went to America, around 1885, from Rollag, in Norway, probably to Rollag, Minnesota, I’d say.
>> I went to the USA myself, in 2005, after I’d overheard that I was followed, by the ‘mafian’, (I don’t really know who they are. I was a shop-manager in Oslo).
>> Then I went to Detroit, in 2005, but was sent right back to Europe, without doing anything wrong.
>> So maybe my family are in this ‘mafian’ and told the USA immigrant-police lies, when they called my family in Norway?
>> I try to dig up things about my family, and has found out that my great-grandmother, on my fathers side, was brought up in the USA, before returning to Norway, something my family in Norway has never told me.
>> So it’s like they’ve tried to cover up stuff for me.
>> I think they probably are like the criminals in the movie ‘Fargo’.
>> Where there many criminals among the Norwegians moving to Rollag, Minnesota?
>> My great-grandmothers parents where her mother Jøran Gulleksdotter Gulleksrud, and her husband, Tov Pedersen Toeiet (Mogan).
>> ‘Toeiet’ means two-own, that is, owns to places.
>> So it could be that it means that they own both in the USA and in Norway.
>> Gulleksrud is a placename, in Rollag, Norway, I think it must be.
>> And Gulleksdotter, means ‘daughter of Gullek’.
>> So she had the same father, as the foster-father, who was her brother, Gullek Gulleksson (Toeiet) Gulleksrud.
>> Gullek is a name, that’s not that common, in Norway, I think.
>> ‘Gull’ in Norwegian, means ‘gold’.
>> I hope you have the chance to answer me about this!
>> Thanks in advance for any help!
>> How do I order the Rollag to Rollag-book?
>> If you don’t know this, then I maybe I should read about this in your book.
>> But thanks in advance if you know anything about this!
>> Yours sincerely,
>>
>> Erik Ribsskog
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Google Mail – Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan
Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>
Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan
Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>
Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:44 PM
To:
Dennis Herbranson <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net>
Hi,yes I have those pages from the Rollag Bygdebøker.
(The library there sent me them, since I contacted them, a few weeks ago).
So I have those scans.
I can try to contact the library in Jefferson Prairie, Wisconsin, and
hear if they have some of information about my great grandmother and
her parents and/or foster-parents.
This link between my family and America, is something that my family
have kept hidden for me.
My father have a new woman, Haldis Humblen, that he has been living
with, since 1980, but not married.
And she has relatives in the Order of St. John, which they also have
kept hidden for me.
And on my mothers side, they have kept hidden, that the baron Adeler,
was in our line.
So there has been a lot of secrecy, in my family, so I have no longer
any bonds to them, so that’s why I have to ask everyone else, about
all these stuff.
So sorry about the inconvenience surrounding this!
Best regards,
Erik Ribsskog
PS.
And when I get more money, I’ll contact Rollag to Rollag back, and
order the book about the people who immigrated to America, from Rollag
in Numedalen.
Thanks very much for the help with this!
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Dennis Herbranson
<rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Erik, do you have access to the Rollag Bygdeboker? I have found the information about your great grandmother, including a picture of her. If you do not, I can scan the information and send it to you.
>
> I looked in our Rollag book and there is nothing about the people you mentioned in our book, so they did not come to Rollag, Minnesota. They may have gone to Jefferson Prairie, Wisconsin as that was another Numedal community in America at that time.
>
> — On Tue, 1/19/10, Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan
> To: "Dennis Herbranson" <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net>
> Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:10 PM
>
> Hi,
> that’s very brilliant!
> I got some of the names wrong, I thought Toeiet meant that they owned in two countries.
> I have some files from Rollag library, in Norway.
> I have them on a blog I write on:
>
> http://johncons-mirror.
blogspot.com/2010/01/na-ma- jeg-si-at-jeg-er-litt-stolt- her.html > I currently live in Liverpool, UK, since I’m a refugee from Norway.
> (I overheard in 2003 and 2004, in Oslo, that I was followed by the ‘mafian’, which I guess could be the communists or muslims.
> Anyway, the police in Norway wont help, and I was a student then, after working as a shop manager, so I didn’t have that much money, so I ended up in the UK).
> I’ll attach a family-tree, so it’s possible to see, that my fathers mother, Ågot Mogans family, were from Rollag in Numedal.
> (I’m also in the noble-lines Gjedde and Adeler, from Denmark and Norway, so that could be why I’m being followed as well I guess).
> So I appriciate any help, since I’m in this difficult situation, so that’s very fine!
> Thank’s very much in advance for any help!
> Sincerely,
> Erik Ribsskog
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Dennis Herbranson <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for your message, Erik. I will see what I can find. I have all the Rollag Bygdeboker and will see if there is any information there as well. May I ask where you currently live? Do you live in Norway?
>>
>> The price of the book is $45 US plus shipping. I think it costs about $25 US to ship a book to Norway. So the total price of the book shipped to Norway would be about $70 US.
>>
>> You asked about criminals in Rollag, Minnesota. No, there were no criminals. They were all poor farmers who came to America to get more land and a better life for their families.
>>
>> Gullek shows up quite often in the Rollag, Norway records, especially back in the 1600s and 1700s. It is an old name, I believe. Gulleksrud would mean Gullek’s clearing, so it had to be a small farm. And Toeiet would be a small husman’s farm on Toen. So I will look there also.
>>
>> I will try to find out some information about your ancestors for you.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> — On Mon, 1/18/10, Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan
>> To: rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net
>> Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 10:50 PM
>>
>> Hi,
>> I was wondering if you have any information, about my great-grandmother Bergit, (or Birgit), Tovsdotter Mogan, who went to the USA, as a foster-child, her uncle, Gullek Gulleksson Toeiet (Gulleksrud), and his wife, Åse Levorsdotter.
>> They went to America, around 1885, from Rollag, in Norway, probably to Rollag, Minnesota, I’d say.
>> I went to the USA myself, in 2005, after I’d overheard that I was followed, by the ‘mafian’, (I don’t really know who they are. I was a shop-manager in Oslo).
>> Then I went to Detroit, in 2005, but was sent right back to Europe, without doing anything wrong.
>> So maybe my family are in this ‘mafian’ and told the USA immigrant-police lies, when they called my family in Norway?
>> I try to dig up things about my family, and has found out that my great-grandmother, on my fathers side, was brought up in the USA, before returning to Norway, something my family in Norway has never told me.
>> So it’s like they’ve tried to cover up stuff for me.
>> I think they probably are like the criminals in the movie ‘Fargo’.
>> Where there many criminals among the Norwegians moving to Rollag, Minnesota?
>> My great-grandmothers parents where her mother Jøran Gulleksdotter Gulleksrud, and her husband, Tov Pedersen Toeiet (Mogan).
>> ‘Toeiet’ means two-own, that is, owns to places.
>> So it could be that it means that they own both in the USA and in Norway.
>> Gulleksrud is a placename, in Rollag, Norway, I think it must be.
>> And Gulleksdotter, means ‘daughter of Gullek’.
>> So she had the same father, as the foster-father, who was her brother, Gullek Gulleksson (Toeiet) Gulleksrud.
>> Gullek is a name, that’s not that common, in Norway, I think.
>> ‘Gull’ in Norwegian, means ‘gold’.
>> I hope you have the chance to answer me about this!
>> Thanks in advance for any help!
>> How do I order the Rollag to Rollag-book?
>> If you don’t know this, then I maybe I should read about this in your book.
>> But thanks in advance if you know anything about this!
>> Yours sincerely,
>>
>> Erik Ribsskog
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Kai Runar said…
Jeg begynner å bli drit lei av dette. Hvis du snart ikke slutter med beskyldningene dine så kommer jeg til å anmelde deg for å komme med slike beskyldninger og anklager. Du må forstå at jeg ikke kan la dette pågå. Sjekk fakta. Du sendte meg også en melding på facebook ang. saken. Har du ikke noe annet å prate om så hold deg unna. LA SAKEN LIGGE. Ikke spesielt vennlig hilsen fra Kai Runar L. Bergum. Bror til Ole-Tonny.19 January 2010 22:27
https://johncons-blogg.net/2010/01/jeg-sendte-en-anmeldelse-av-christell.html
PS.
Her er mitt svar på dette:
Altså Kairo,
du kan ikke komme nå flere uker seinere, og si ditt og datt.
Nå har jeg anmeldt det, og da må jeg nesten gå videre.
Du skulle ha svart på Facebook-meldingen da, som du ikke gjorde.
Og dessuten, Ole Tonny gikk i klassen min, så det er ikke sånn at jeg kjente Ole Tonny gjennom deg.
Han var en vanlig kar i klassen min, sånn som jeg så det.
Så tidligere klassekamerater må få lov å bry seg, synes jeg.
Og det som jeg egentlig driver med, det er å prøve å finne ut av familien min.
Dvs. Christell og faren min osv., hva de holder på med.
Og da skriver jeg noe som er som en selvbiografi, på blogg.
Siden jeg har overhørt at jeg er forfulgt av noe ‘mafian’, hva nå det er.
Så dette er også del av mitt liv og andre som har bodd på Bergeråsen.
Så nå jeg tar opp alt som har skjedd i mitt liv, så må jeg få lov å få ta opp det jeg har hørt andre snakke om til meg.
Selv om det er en i klassen min som døde.
Mora mi døde for tidlig, og mora til Petter og Christian Grønli døde for tidlig, og Nina Monsen døde for tidlig, osv.
Det er jo ikke noe for å være jævlig mot deg eller familien din det her.
Det her er om mitt liv, så da må jeg få lov å ta opp det som en del av mitt liv, mener jeg.
Dette her var jo for 20 år sida, så det er ikke sånn, at dette var noe som nettopp skjedde osv., lenger.
Det var en trafikkulykke, da Ole Tonny nettopp hadde fått lappen.
Og jeg lurer på om Christell har vært involvert i dette, som noe ‘mob’ eller ‘mafian’, e.l.
Så sånn er det.
Og jeg kan godt prate om andre ting fra Berger jeg, det er bare at du ikke svarer på Facebook-meldingen min så.
Men vi var aldri så kamerater vi, og heller ikke Ole Tonny kanskje, dere var som to vanlige folk som bodde på Bergeråsen, for meg.
Så vi var ikke skikkelig kamerater og vi var ikke uvenner heller, mener jeg.
Du og broren din var liksom bare to vanlige karer på Bergeråsen, for meg.
Så da håper jeg det er greit, at jeg forteller videre det jeg har hørt.
For det mener jeg at man har rett til, å fortelle om det som har skjedd en.
Jeg mener at selv om du var broren til Ole Tonny, så kan ikke du bestemme over klassekameratene til Ole-Tonny f.eks.
Det synes jeg er litt drøyt.
Dette er 20 år siden nå, så dette burde dere ha lært å leve med nå, synes jeg, for å være litt streng.
Så sånn er nok det.
Men jeg skjønner selvfølgelig at det ikke er verdens artigste tema, det forstår jeg godt.
Men nå har jeg overhørt at jeg er forfulgt av noe ‘mafian’ osv., i Oslo, i 2003 og 2004, så da vil jeg gjerne å prøve å finne ut hva som foregår da.
Så sånn er det.
Mvh.
Erik Ribsskog
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Google Mail – Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan
Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>
Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter Mogan
Erik Ribsskog
<eribsskog@gmail.com>
Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:10 PM
To:
Dennis Herbranson <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net>
Hi,that's very brilliant!I got some of the names wrong, I thought Toeiet meant that they owned in two countries.I have some files from Rollag library, in Norway.I have them on a blog I write on:I currently live in Liverpool, UK, since I'm a refugee from Norway.(I overheard in 2003 and 2004, in Oslo, that I was followed by the 'mafian', which I guess could be the communists or muslims.Anyway, the police in Norway wont help, and I was a student then, after working as a shop manager, so I didn't have that much money, so I ended up in the UK).I'll attach a family-tree, so it's possible to see, that my fathers mother, Ågot Mogans family, were from Rollag in Numedal.(I'm also in the noble-lines Gjedde and Adeler, from Denmark and Norway, so that could be why I'm being followed as well I guess).So I appriciate any help, since I'm in this difficult situation, so that's very fine!Thank's very much in advance for any help!Sincerely,Erik RibsskogOn Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Dennis Herbranson <rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net> wrote:Thank you for your message, Erik. I will see what I can find. I have all the Rollag Bygdeboker and will see if there is any information there as well. May I ask where you currently live? Do you live in Norway?The price of the book is $45 US plus shipping. I think it costs about $25 US to ship a book to Norway. So the total price of the book shipped to Norway would be about $70 US.You asked about criminals in Rollag, Minnesota. No, there were no criminals. They were all poor farmers who came to America to get more land and a better life for their families.Gullek shows up quite often in the Rollag, Norway records, especially back in the 1600s and 1700s. It is an old name, I believe. Gulleksrud would mean Gullek's clearing, so it had to be a small farm. And Toeiet would be a small husman's farm on Toen. So I will look there also.I will try to find out some information about your ancestors for you.Sincerely,Dennis— On Mon, 1/18/10, Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Subject: Great-grandmother Bergit Tovsdotter MoganTo: rollagtorollag@sbcglobal.net
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 10:50 PMHi,
I was wondering if you have any information, about my great-grandmother Bergit, (or Birgit), Tovsdotter Mogan, who went to the USA, as a foster-child, her uncle, Gullek Gulleksson Toeiet (Gulleksrud), and his wife, Åse Levorsdotter.They went to America, around 1885, from Rollag, in Norway, probably to Rollag, Minnesota, I'd say.I went to the USA myself, in 2005, after I'd overheard that I was followed, by the 'mafian', (I don't really know who they are. I was a shop-manager in Oslo).Then I went to Detroit, in 2005, but was sent right back to Europe, without doing anything wrong.So maybe my family are in this 'mafian' and told the USA immigrant-police lies, when they called my family in Norway?I try to dig up things about my family, and has found out that my great-grandmother, on my fathers side, was brought up in the USA, before returning to Norway, something my family in Norway has never told me.So it's like they've tried to cover up stuff for me.I think they probably are like the criminals in the movie 'Fargo'.Where there many criminals among the Norwegians moving to Rollag, Minnesota?My great-grandmothers parents where her mother Jøran Gulleksdotter Gulleksrud, and her husband, Tov Pedersen Toeiet (Mogan).'Toeiet' means two-own, that is, owns to places.So it could be that it means that they own both in the USA and in Norway.Gulleksrud is a placename, in Rollag, Norway, I think it must be.And Gulleksdotter, means 'daughter of Gullek'.So she had the same father, as the foster-father, who was her brother, Gullek Gulleksson (Toeiet) Gulleksrud.Gullek is a name, that's not that common, in Norway, I think.'Gull' in Norwegian, means 'gold'.I hope you have the chance to answer me about this!Thanks in advance for any help!How do I order the Rollag to Rollag-book?If you don't know this, then I maybe I should read about this in your book.But thanks in advance if you know anything about this!Yours sincerely,Erik Ribsskog
familie tre.JPG
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PS.
Her er vedlegget:
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PS.
Faren hans het visst Ole Larsen Dørumsgaard, (eller Dørrumsgaard).
Og mora het visst Marith Arntsdatter.
Så sånn var det.
Så mora var kanskje sjefen i heimen der, siden hu kalte opp sønn’ etter faren sin.
Hvem vet.
Vi får se.
Mvh.
Erik Ribsskog
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PS.
Men ‘n Arnt ble visst født på Dørumsgaard, eller Dørremsgaard, eller hva det står:
PS 2.
Men jeg synes det står at mora heter ‘Marit’, da han ble konfirmert.
Hm.
For hu het ‘Gjertrud’, da han ble døpt.
Men men.
Pytt pytt.
Mvh.
Erik Ribsskog
PS 3.
Da var nok han første Arnt feil.
Jeg får se om jeg finner han andre Arnt, når han ble født da, vi får se.
