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Erik Ribsskog
Today at 12:33am
Hi,I’m sitting in from of the computer now, so I saw your answer right away.
Well, I’ve been having some problems with some criminal networks it seems, in Norway and Britain.
And being used as a ‘target guy’ by the American government, and as a spy by the British government it seems.
So I think things were a bit more sivilised perhaps, in Sunderland.
I have a picture of my passport, so you can see what the Imigration Control in Detroit wrote in my passport, so that you don’t think I’m making all this up:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4082&id=1059338080
I’ve got some copies of some e-mail I’ve sent Amnesty and Human Rights Whatch, as well, if you want to read more.
But anyway, this is a bit boring stuff, to write about.
And now I’m working in the packaging business, with work a British company, working as self employed, with company research, from home.
And I used to work for Arvato Microsoft Scandinavian Product Activation, about a year ago, in Liverpool.
So I’ve been mostly in Britain since Sunderland, except for a few months.
Say hello to Anja, if you speak with her.
Dorte, wrote on a note, on which my flat-mates had written their e-mail addresses. (For future contact after Sunderland).
And Dorte wrote the address black_lady2@gmx.de., or something like that.
So when the Imigration control (I was just going to America, to go on holiday for two-or three months doe, I had planned to maybe rent a car, and see a bit of the country).
But I think the imigration-control officer, reacted when he saw Dortes e-mail address, that was something with ‘black lady’ etc.
Maybe he thought I was racist or something, I don’t know.
But I was sent back to Oslo, via France, and I think I maybe was lucky not to end up like Tom Hanks in The Terminal, on the airport in Paris.
But nevermind me, it seems like things are a bit more quiet now, so it shouldn’t be a problem.
And yourself, what are you up to these days.
I remember I was very impressed by the party you and your flat-mates were having.
I think it probably must be the only pary I’ve been to with free beer.
So that I remeber I thought that was a very smart solution.
So thanks very much for the beer-cans again.
I’m not sure if I remembered to say thanks for all of the beer-cans I drank.
Sorry about the boring update.
What are you doing yourself these days?
Thank you very much for your answer, and also thank you very much again for the beer-cans back then.
Erik Erik Ribsskog
Today at 1:12am
Hi, sorry I’m writing several times.But something more came to mind when I was making dinner here.
It was.
I’m a bit old-fashioned, but I understand that people are writing a lot between the lines these days.
Maybe, the Imigration Officer in Detroit, thought I had a slave, or something like that.
Since it said something with ‘black_lady’ in the e-mail address on the paper-sheet from Sunderland.
And then they made up this ‘The Terminal plot’.
Because, when I was to go through Imigration-control in Paris, De Gaule airport, then there suddently appeard a lot of pretty 16-17 y.o. girls that one had to switch queue, a lot of times, to avoid standing right behind, since they moved from queue to queue all the time.
So I’m suspecting a bit, that this could be some kind of plot, by eg. the CIA, to check if I was a pervert or something, due to that I had a note with an e-mail address, that it said ‘black_lady’ on etc.
Because, I think, I have stood right behind the pretty young girls, then I think the French Imigration Control-ladies, would have looked through my passport more thorowly maybe.
And then I think they probably would have found the lines the Detroit Imigration Control had written in my passport.
And then I think I could have into problems, because France are in the EU, while Norway aren’t.
And I don’t much French, but it seemed a bit to me, that the Imigration Control women there, were speaking to eachother, and said something in French, like they had been warned to check Norwegian passports thorowly.
But they smiled, and were friendly, I think they let me go, since they thought I behavied fine in the queue.
At least that’s how it seemed to me at the time.
I’m not sure why I’m writing all of this to you, but it came to my mind now, so I thought I’d try to write it down, while I’m still remembering it.
I’m publishing these two last posts on my blogg, but it doesn’t say your name or anything in it, so I reackoned that that would be alright.
Since it seems like it something going on.
So I hope it is alright with the blog-posts, and sorry that I didn’t ask if it was alright to put the post I’ve written on the blog.
Erik Erik Ribsskog
Today at 1:45am
And this, I forgot, sorry that I’m writing a lot.But the Detroit Imigration Control, asked if I knew any Americans.
I’m sure exactly if I remembered your name then, I had a bit of jet-lag etc., but I think I rememberd Nicole’s first-name, from the neighouring-flat in Sunderland.
And in that flat, Brusk, I think Julian and myself watched ‘The Terminal’.
I’m not sure if Nicole watched it, but I remember we watched ‘Joe Dirt’, four or five of us, on her laptop.
So she propably picked it up that we watched ‘The Terminal’, in the lounge there.
I suspected a bit before, since I had to wait for many hours in The Detroit Imigration Control, while the officers were taking phone-calls or something like that.
That maybe they eg. called Nicole, and asked her about things like that.
And decided to have some fun, and maybe set up a ‘The Terminal’-plot.
Or something like that.
But this is just something I’ve been suspecting, so I guess I should just rather ask Nicole about this, and not bother you with all these messages.
So I’m sorry about all the messages, and that I’m putting the ones I’m writing on the blog.
But it seems a bit like theres something going on I think.
But I hope this is alright, and sorry again about the inconvenience with all the messages.
I’ll try to behave better now, sorry again!
Erik
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anbefalingerBra! Røyk.
Skrevet av cons 11.02.2008 kl. 22:49Ok, så i de to gamle murstein-konstruksjonene til høyre på bilde, så driver de å spalter atomer osv da?
Altså, de driver å deler opp et atom, som er alt for lite til å kunne synes.
Er det sånn det ligger ann?
Og hvorfor kjøper Storbritannia gass fra Norge da, når dem bare kunne bygd et par sånne reaktorer til da.
Og hvorfor er strømmen så dyr i England?
I Norge, så var jo strømmen nesten gratis på 70 og 80-tallet.
Men nå sier dem at vi bruker så mye strøm, så nå koster strømmen flere tusen i måneden gjerne vel.
Enda vel en god del kraftkrevende industri nok har blitt lagt ned vel?
Jeg mener, folk sitter vel stort sett å ser på TV om kvelden, som de gjorde på 70 og 80-tallet.
Hva er det folk bruker så mye mer strøm til nå, enn på 70 og 80-tallet.
PC-er bruker vel ikke så mye strøm.
Det dyreste er vel oppvarming, men folk hadde jo husene varme på 70 og 80-tallet og.
Jeg husker de elektriske ovenen da, var bare noe som stod på, og som det ikke var så nøye hvor mange grader dem stod på.
Samme med lyset.
Lyset stod jo alltid på i alle romma i Norge, mens i England f.eks. så skrur folk av lyset i rom dem ikke oppholder seg i.
Og det samme i f.eks. Frankrike.
Der skrur folk av lyset på hoteller om natta til og med, husker jeg.
Og folk skrur av TV-en, når det ikke er et program dem absolutt skal se på.
Så det som skjedde med strøm-markedet i Norge, er vel litt rart da.
Man er sikre på at ingen har lurt folka i Norge da?
Altså, på 70 og 80-tallet, så var strømmen omtrent gratis, og ingen tenkte på strøm-regninga.
På 2000-tallet, så blir strømnettet kobla sammen med utlandet, også blir strømmen plutselig mye dyrere, så pensjonister har ikke råd å betale strømregning på over 5000 osv.
Men det er mulig det er fordi det er mindre snø nå da, som smelter, og går gjennom fossene, på Vestlandet osv.
Det er mulig, jeg er ikke så ofte på Vestlandet osv., men er ikke nedbøren ganske konstant da.
Hvis det ikke faller snø, så faller det vel kanskje regn da?
Eller har jeg misforstått nå?
Men men, man kan ikke skjønne alt.
Men jeg synes kanskje ting kan tyde litt på at vanlige folk i Norge ble litt lurt med det her med strømmen osv.
Og også at det er litt rart, at alt skal være så dyrt og tungvint og byråkratisk osv. i Norge, når vel Norge må være landet med mest naturresurser i verden.
Masse olje, gass, vannkraft fra fossefall, fisk, etc.
Men likevel, så er bensinen dyr, strømmen dyr, fisken dyr, etc.
Prisene på dette ligger vel kanskje på samme nivå som i utlandet.
Og lønningene er jo mye høyere i Norge.
Men skattene er jo høye, og prisene på varer og tjenester er jo høye.
Så det kan virke som om alle naturressursene Norge har.
At pengene fra all oljen, gassen, vannkraften, fisken osv.
At pengene fra dette, går til å betale for et stort statsapparat, som halvparten av folka jobber, eller ‘jobber’ i.
For det er vel ikke nok jobb, i forbindelse med å styre landet, til at det kan bli fornuftige ting å gjøre for halvparten av arbeidsstyrken?
Dem må vel til en viss grad finne opp ting å bruke tia på?
Hadde det ikke vært bedre å hatt et statsapparat, på størrelse med andre land, også heller latt de her folka gjøre noe ordentlig arbeid?
Hvis man lar dem jobbe i private bedrifter, så vet man jo at det er en eier der, som gjerne vil holde utgifter nede, og driften effektiv.
For å få resultater fra investeringen sin.
Mens hvis staten er eier, så er det tar folk kanskje det ikke så nøye, om kostnadene holdes nede, at man bruker hue i forbindelse med økonomien, og driver effektivt.
Og det er vel ikke noe værre å jobbe i en privat bedrift, enn å jobbe i en statlig bedrift.
Noen sier at det er tryggere å jobbe i en statlig bedrift, men det er jo sikkerhetsnett, i veldferdstaten osv., sånn at man skal klare seg, også i tilfelle man mister jobben.
Så det er vel ikke noe utrygt å jobbe i en privat bedrift da.
Men det er sikkert noen andre som skjønner det.
Det virker litt som om atombomber og plutomiumen kunne ha vært en røverhistorie, synes jeg noen ganger i hvertfall.
Hva er røyken som kommer opp der da, er det Co2, eller er det vann-damp eller?
Jeg synes det her med spalte atomer, som er det minste i verden, og så få masse skummelt ut av å drive å dele opp det minste i verden.
Som radioaktivitet og plutonium osv.
Jeg synes det virker litt rart, hvis man prøver å tenke på det, sånn fra et helt vanlig menneskes perspektiv.
At vi har noe som heter radioaktivitet, som man ikke kan se, men som fungerer på en måte som kryptonium mot Supermann.
Og hvis man deler det minste som finnes, atomet, så får man noe som kan lage den største eksplosjonen i verden.
Det synes jeg høres litt rart ut.
Det minste i verden, som er så lite at man ikke kan se det en gang.
Det atomet, det kan lage den største eksplosjonen i verden, bare man deler det opp.
Hm.
Folk er sikre på at det er ingen som tuller her?
Men hvis myndighetene sier at det er sånn, så er det vel sånn da?
Det kan ikke ha vært noe, som noen har funnet på det her?
Med noe agenda, å holde de landene som ikke har atomkraft, eller ‘atomkraft’.
Og som ikke har atombomber, eller ‘atombomber’.
Å holde disse landa i sjakk?
I forbindelse med noe agenda å få hevn over vikingene?
Kan det være noe mulighet?
Eller er det så usannsynlig, at det ikke er verdt å tenke på engang?
Det er sikkert noen som har noe svar på dette, så på forhånd takk for svar!
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anbefalingerBra! RE: Røyk.
Skrevet av lolsipop(nikkott) 11.02.2008 kl. 22:57Skriv en kommentar, ikke en forbanna roman.
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anbefalingerBra! RE: Røyk.
Skrevet av cons 12.02.2008 kl. 00:15Da er vi over på et tema, som jeg synes er ofte aktuelt i Norge.
Og det er trakassering.
Eller høflighet da.
Bestemmer du hva jeg skal skrive?
Hva jeg skriver her, er en sak mellom meg og Dagbladet.
Eller er du mora mi?
Du driver faktisk å patroniserer meg.
Nå kunne jeg klagd, men nå er jeg ganske vant til det her, men hvis det blir mer, så er det nok ikke umulig at jeg klager nei.
Vi får se.
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anbefalingerBra! Som å høre på Guttungen
Skrevet av Titi 12.02.2008 kl. 00:11Så mye svada. Du burde ringe Guttungen Jens å få deg en jobb på statsministerns kontor eller i NRK
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anbefalingerBra! RE: Som å høre på Guttungen
Skrevet av cons 12.02.2008 kl. 00:22Hei, ja du er også utenfor tema.
Du driver også å trakasserer.
Du skriver at, det jeg skriver er svada.
Da er du nedlatende (uhøflig), ovenfor meg.
Fordi da sier du implisitt at jeg er på lavere nivå enn de andre.
Fordi det jeg skriver er svada.
I forhold til det som er vanlig, det de andre skriver.
Så da setter du meg på et lavere nivå enn de andre.
Og det er trakassering, som vel er forbudt i følge lov, i hvertfall i Storbritannia.
Det er sikkert lov å mene at det som står der er svada, men det er nedlatende/trakasserende, å si noe til folk, som er nedlatende.
I hvertfall hvis det er uønsket.
Nå trodde du kanskje at du kjente meg, og du trodde kanskje at jeg likte å bli hersa med.
Men det stemmer nok ikke, så jeg skriver en advarsel her da, at neste gang klager jeg nok.
Så skriver jeg det her for å forklare.
Og du er patroniserende.
Du forteller meg hva jeg burde gjøre.
Som om du var min formynder, altså som om du var mora mi da.
Det tror jeg er et problem i Norge, ettersom jeg merker i forhold til utlandet.
Det er masse ukjente folk som gjerne vil være mora di.
Hvor kommer alle disse wannabe-mødrene fra?
Hvorfor er det så mange av dem i Norge?
Er det fordi Norge grenser til Russland, og russerne har lært dem norsk, og smugler dem over grensa, for å få dem til å lage faenskap?
Man kan lure i hvertfall.
Det synes i allefall jeg.
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anbefalingerBra! RE: Som å høre på Guttungen
Skrevet av Titi 12.02.2008 kl. 00:29Tar det tilbake.
Nå jeg tenker meg om er jeg egentlig enig.
Du er Gerhardsen
Du er Vidsom
Du er Sannheten
Du er NRK og P2 på en gang
Du sitter allerede i regjeringen fordi du er
Fullkommen
Det synes i allefall jeg
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anbefalingerBra! RE: Som å høre på Guttungen Valgt innlegg
Skrevet av cons 12.02.2008 kl. 00:48Prøver du å herme etter min stil nå.
Jeg synes du hersjer med meg enda.
Nå klager jeg ikke den her gangen, for jeg vil gjerne illustrere et eksempel, som vel blir borte hvis postene blir slettet.
Men her forklarer jeg hva jeg mener:
Nå skriver du at det jeg skriver er svada.
Da er du uhøflig/nedlatende ovenfor meg, du skriver at det jeg skriver er svada, i forhold til det de andre skriver, som er vanlig.
Da setter du meg på et lavere nivå enn de andre.
Det er vel greit å mene det.
Men nå er vi tross alt begge fra samme land.
Da burde vi vel kunne diskutere i sivilserte former.
Vi kommer da ikke fra to forskjellige land som er i krig med hverandre?
Du tror kanskje at jeg liker å bli hersja med på en uhøflig/u-sivilisert/nærmest krigersk måte.
Da blander du nok meg med noen andre.
Når jeg sitter å kommenterer her, er det for å bidra til samfunssdebatten i Norge, og pga.
interesser osv., som en form for avkobling eller hobby nærmest.
Så jeg er ikke i noen krig.
Du tiltaler med fiendtlig tone.
Men jeg liker ikke å drive med sånn usivilisert kriging, på fritiden, jeg har andre ting å
bruke tida mi på.
Så neste gang du bruker den tonen der, så kommer jeg til å klage på deg.
Det er ikke lov å oppføre seg fiendtlig mot andre som man ikke kjenner.
Det burde også være unødvendig å oppføre seg på en fiendtlig måte mot sine felles landsmenn.
Jeg ønsker ikke å bli fiendlig behandlet når jeg diskuterer på nettet, så det kommer jeg nok
til å klage på.
Jeg synes vi burde fokusere på bidra på en konstruktiv måte til debatten, og ikke komme
med fiendtlige angrep, som tar fokuset vekk fra debatten.
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anbefalingerBra! RE: Som å høre på Guttungen
Skrevet av cons 12.02.2008 kl. 01:04Altså, først burde man vel ha en sivilisert tone.
Og så kan man diskutere.
Men du har en fiendlig tone, som om vi er i krig.
Og da tar det fokuset bort fra debatten.
Så jeg mistenker, at du har en agenda.
At du vil ta fokuset bort fra det jeg skrev i den første posten.
Ved å arrangere noe krig og fiendtligheter, som tar fokuset vekk fra den egentlige debatten.
Eller at du er del en organisert kampanje, som prøver å slite meg ut, for å få meg til å miste kontrollen på jobbsituasjon etc.
Forbundet med andre problemer med kriminelle nettverk/myndigheter i Norge og Storbritannia.
For selv om en sånn trakasserende melding er greit.
Men når man skal drive å forsvare seg, og prøve å forklare problemet til ignorante administratorer, når det begynner å hope seg opp med 40-50 slike trakasserende meldinger.
Da tar det jo litt på.
Så selv om en sånn melding, nok er overlevbart.
Så merker jeg jo det at, det blir slitsomt med mange sånne meldinger.
Så etterhvert, så orker man nok ikke å skrive sånne her svar, på alle de meldingene hvor man blir hersja med.
Så da er det vel kanskje smart å først skrive en advarsel da, og så klage hvis personen fortsetter da.
Så jeg får ta det som en tommelfinger-regel, også får jeg se det ann litt hvordan jeg skal takle den her type trakasserende poster, som vel nok tar fokuset vekk fra det egentlige tema.
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cons
11/02 17:26
At dem skulle streike i to måneder, det synes jeg hørtes drøyt ut, og lurer på om det ikke kan være noe lureri ute å gå et eller annet sted her.
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cons
11/02 17:25
Nå kommenterer jeg om den artikkelen, ( www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/sport/article2249924.ece), hvor det stod at et brev man sendte med posten til England, før jul, ikke hadde kommet frem i februar, grunnet poststreik. Det er greit at det var poststreik, men at posten skulle bli forsinket i to måneder da. Det tar vel ikke mer enn en dag eller to å sende et brev til Storbritannia. -
Phoney.
Nå var det ei phoney-aktig dame på Tesco.Mørkt hår, i 20-åra med miniskjørt, som bare kjøpte en baguette, og som jobba der, virka det som, for hu gikk ikke ut.
Ligna på lignende plot av hu rødhåra på Spar for noen uker siden.
Og tiggerne i Matthew Street virker litt for årvåkne og studerende spørr du meg.
Som jeg har tenkt før, så skjedde det nok noe da jeg sendte de e-postene fra Arvato i 2006.
Også later bare alle som om det ikke har skjedd noe.
Det er sikkert greit det.
Men at dem skal late som om det ikke finnes noe som heter menneskerettigheter og, det er vel litt drøyt.
Og hva med et åpent og demokratisk samfunn?
Skal dem la folk gå rundt i årevis, uten å fortelle dem hva det er som foregår, sånn at folk kan gå videre med livet sitt?
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Erik Ribsskog
Flat 3
5 Leather Lane
Liverpool 11. February 2008
L2 2AE
Tesco Customer Service
FREEPOST SCO 2298
Baird Avenue
Dundee
DD2 3TN
COMPLAINT
On Thursday, 10/1, right before closing-time, at around 11.50 pm., I arrived at your
Tesco Metro shop, in Liverpool City Center.
When I went around to do the shopping, I noticed young woman in her early
twenties, I think.
She only wore like a mini-skirt, or a small black dress, so that dress looked like
a mini-skirt.
So she looked like she was going out to town, eg. clubing.So I thought it was a bit strange that she was walking around in the shop.
When I got to the check-out, I saw that the woman with the mini-skirt/short dress,only had bought a baguette.
I used to work in a food-shop-chain in Norway for many years, Rimi, and there we
called those types of baguettes, half-baked.
It looked like the type we called half-baked, bread-products that one get half-baked
from the bread-supplier, and then store in the shop-frezer-room, and then bake them
for a minutes in the shop, and then sell them.
Then they are like fresh from the baker.
But, I remeber that I thought it was a bit strange that someone would buy a baguette
this late. (11.55 pm).
And also that the shop still had half-baked baguettes at this hour, because I remember
from working in the shops in Norway, that baguettes were a product that people ate for
breakfast/lunch, and which the shop didn’t bake in the evenings.
Then the shop baked different types of bread.So it was maybe a bit strange that the young woman, with the dress/mini-skirt, looking
like she was heading for town, would buy a baguette, that had probably been laying in
the shop’s half-baked display all day, since the early morning or maybe noon.
When I got to the check-out.
The express check-out, was the only check out open.
Then the customers were served by the about 30 y.o., maybe, woman, working there full
time, (since I’ve seen her there many times from before).
She has dark hair, is not that tall, and she more or less always have big rings under her eyes.
And I think she likes Tim Cahill, because I think she mentioned him to her collegue one
day I was shopping.
It was probably this day, or the time when I went there before this day.
She put the baguette, on the place where she then put the food I had bought.
The young woman with the mini-skirt/short dress, was just standing there, and just letthe baguette lay there, on the same place where the check-out woman placed the
food I’d bought.
So the woman delayed bringing her bakery-product with her out of the shop, and the check-out
woman, put my food very close to the other womans bakery-product.
And then, when I had finished, then I was let out, through the half-closed-down security-gate,
by a guard, I think he was.
But the woman with the mini-skirt/small dress, wasn’t exiting the shop.
She returned passed the regular check-out area, and didn’t exit the shop, even if the time was
around 11.55 pm. – 0.00 am.
So she must have been working there, I think, because I was the last customer in the shop, and
after I had left, the gates were shut down, it seemed to me.
So I thought this incident was a bit strange.
Especially since I’ve been having problems with what seems to be a criminal network of some type,at my previous workplace, on shops/resturants in town like: Burger King, McDonalds, Lidl; Spar,
Argos, Currys, Iceland.
So it seems like this incedent could be part of some type of pattern.
Because, from working around fifteen years, in food-shops in Norway, this didn’t seem like a naturalincident.
And the woman also appeared, like from Nowhere, right after I’d entered the shop.
It was late at night, so there weren’t many customers in the shop, and there weren’t neighter manypeople outside the shop, in the streets, that late, so I think I would have normally noticed the
customer, while walking in to the shop, because I think she must have gotten there right before
me.
But I can’t remember seeing the customer walking into the shop.
But I think she was probably working there.So I guess it could be that she was working to 11.45, and then put on a mini-skirt/short dress, and
then bought a baguette, and then stayed in the shop for some reason.
And then headed for town, like she looked dressed for.
I guess it could have been like that.
But I thought it seemed a bit strange, the way she was just standing there, for several minuttes,without picking up the baguette, while I was buying my groceries.
So I thought I’d write a complaint to you, regarding this, since I’ve been writing complaints toother shops/resturants, regarding other incidents, that could maybe seem to be part of a pattern.
So I thought I’d also write this complaint.
Even if I must admit that I wrote the other complaints, before I wrote this complaint, since I’mreally sure what to complain about, other than that I thought the staff acted strange.
So I hope you have the chance to have a look at this!
I’m enclosing a blog-post I wrote, just a few minuttes after the incident. (It’s in Norwegian, but I’m
enclosing it anyway, since I unfortunatly didn’t have any other notes about the incident, but I
thought it was better to enclose blog-entry copy, than not enclose any enclosures at all).
It says on the blog-post, that it’s written on 10/1, at 19:06.But I’ve checked wich time-zone the blog is set on, and it set on timezone -5.
So the actuall date/time for the blog-post, is 11/1, 0:06.
Thats about ten minutes after the incident.
I went straight home, and wrote on the blog, since there have been many maybe a bit strangeincidents happeing.
Hope this is alright, and thank you very much in advance for your help!
Yours sincerely,
Erik Ribsskog
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Rase etc. 11.02.08 06:59
(Svar til: Aftenposten)
consIkke registrertJeg synes det virker litt om nytale, at man ikke har lov å bruke ord som rase, neger, osv, som folk er vant til å bruke fra før.
Hvis dem skal ta fra folk ordene, så får dem i det minste lage et nytt ord som betyr det samme da.
Er det riktig at man skal nekte folk som har brukt et ord hele livet, å fortsette å bruke det samme ordet?
Bare fordi noen påstår at det ikke finnes noen raser, og at mennesker kan klassifiseres etter andre ting.
Det er mulig det er riktigere å klassifisere mennesker etter blodtype f.eks., jeg er ikke noe ekspert på emnet.
Men, å kreve av andre, at de slutte å bruke et ord, er det lov det da?
Blir ikke det trakassering?
Hvis noen får lov å bruke de ordene man ønsker.
Mens andre ikke får lov å bruke de ordene man ønsker.
Dette høres litt snodig ut for meg i hvertfall, og at det kan være et form for overgrep/trakassering, ovenfor de som ønsker å bruke de ordene, som de har brukt hele livet.
En annen ting, kan kanskje være, hva hvis noen har en agenda mot f.eks. norrøne/nordiske folk da.
Så skal man ikke få lov å henvise til dem da, siden det er andre ting enn utsende, som klassifiserer mennesker bedre?
Hvordan kan man da forsvare seg mot f.eks. etnisk rensking?
Hvis ting som etnisitet/rase, ikke er lov å referere til?
Hvis noen sier, å han ble drept fordi noen ikke likte at han hadde blondt hår, og vikingeblod i årene, siden de ville utrydde alle med vikingeblod i årene, for å hevne det vikingene gjorde f.eks.
Så svarer de bare, nei for noe tøys, det er mange andre ting som klassifiserer mennesker bedre enn om de er norrøne eller ikke, så det kan ikke stemme.
Er det den retningen ting tar?
Kan det tenkes at dette tenkte forbudet mot å bruke begrepet rase, kan være del i f.eks. en pågående agenda for å utrydde folk av f.eks. norrøn rase da.
Men at hvis man forbyr folk å prate om rase, så er det ingen som kan protestere og si at de alle de norrøne forsvinner, eller at noen ble drept fordi de er norrønne, fordi det ikke er lov, (ala nytale i ‘1984’), det er ikke lov å bruke ordet rase og sikkert heller ikke ordet norrønn heller da.
Det blir vel neste steg eventuelt da antagelig, det er jo ikke lov å si neger, så da er det vel ikke lov å si norrøn heller antagelig.
Men jeg mistenker som sagt at slike plutselige ‘forbud’ mot ord, som dukker opp, kan ha en mulig politisk agenda forbundet med seg.
Jeg ser egentlig ikke noe grunn til å regulere ordene, som i ‘1984’ f.eks., fordi jeg mener det vil regulere seg selv.
Hvis noen mener de blir trakassert, så vil de vel ta opp dette selv, og klage selv.
Man trenger vel ikke opptre som en formynder for dem, og si at, å det er så synd på dem, så vi må få forbud mot å si ‘neger’.
Da mener jeg det er patronisering.
Hvis noen blir sure fordi noen sier ‘neger’, så burde de vel ta det opp selv.
Jeg mener det er patroninsering, hvis noen skal drive å ta opp ting på vegne av andre voksne mennesker.
Men nå skjønner jo ikke jeg alt som foregår i verden, så det er mulig det er noe jeg ikke har skjønt her.
Men det er kanskje noen andre som skjønner det, så kan dem eventuelt svare og opplyse meg da.
Så på forhånd takk for det i såfall!
http://debatt.aftenposten.no/item.php?GroupID=10&ThreadID=226219&page=1#item3444262
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BUSINESS-SECRET WITH THE PRICE OF NOK 25.90. (About £2).
(Article translated from the online version of the Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet.,
published Sunday 28/12/1997).Orkla Foods is been secretive about where it is, that the basic ingredients,
to the Pizza Grandiosa is from. Orkla don’t wont to provide information regarding
eighter the orginiating country or supplier for the basic ingredients.
They refuse to answer questions regarding the meat in the Grandiosa. And when
Dagbladet visited the pizza-factory in Stranda, the restrictions, on what
Dagbladet was allowed to view, were particularely tight. – Business-secrets,
Information Director in Orkla Foods, Håkon Mageli says.Orginial article written by Lajla Ellingsen.
It’s not about pizza. It’s about that pizza. The one that all the Norse loves,
according to Stabburet, or like Information Director in Stabburet, Håkon Mageli,
says: ‘It tastes bloody good’. And then it’s natrual to ask. What is it really,
that we’re eating so much of? What is a Pizza Grandiosa? – It says on the box,
the Information Director answers. With the Information Director brought with us,
we are heading towards Stranda, the pizza paradise, where Orkla Foods recently
have investigated in a new factory to the price of 200.000.000 NOK. Where it
this day, is being produced 180 000 pizzas. And from new year, the capacity is
being increased by fifty percent. – It not really everything that is being said
on the box, Meat from large cattle (storfekjøtt), it can mean anything from cow
to horse, can’t it?– It’s not horse in the Grandiosa, Madam! Hageli thunders, but he admit that it
is a mixture. From cow or bull.– Which looks like real meat?
– It’s now simple task to make well tasting pizza-meat. The taste is the most
important to us. If it doesn’t taste good, then the consumer isn’t going to
buy the pizza.– But you can’t claim that it’s a coincident, that the way you mix and cut the
mixture, makes it look like real meat?– Claim and claim. It is meat from big cattle (storfekjøtt) in the meat. But you’ll
never get my recipy, due to competitiveabilty-reasons.NAIVE BEYOND LIMITS
It was here that it started. Two weeks ago. When we wanted to go behind the ingredients-
list on the famous yellow and red pizza-boxes. Like what type of meat that was being
used. – what piece of the cattle are we eating when we are eating Grandiosa? Or if
we could be sure of that the soy-protein, being used to bind the meat, isn’t gene-
modified. What about the tomatoo-puree? We wished to trace the ingredients back to
the producer. And we wondered what we really could get for 25.90 NOK. And we got
answered:– Eg. Jarslberg-cheese, produced by ‘Norske Meierier’. (Translates to Norwegian Dairys,
the Norwegian Dairy monopoly).– What about the soy-protein?
– We are not supplying information about the supplier of the soy-protein.
– But how can we know that it isn’t gene-modified then?
– Because we have got a garanty from our supplier. We have a policy on that we shouldn’t
use gene-modified products. The consumer can be reasured about this.– But the consumer is without any possibilities to double-check this?
– We can’t reveal who our suppliers are. It would be naive beyond any limits. We protect
what we have. You’ll never get my recipy.The Information Director said. But we got an appointment to see the production. In 14 days.
AS FEW ANSWERS
He’s Mr. Grandiosa. The Factory Manager in white, Ivar Moss, the entrepenour who blinks in
a clever way every time he nods, and who is enjoying the self-rolled un-filtered tobacco-
sigarette, when the young, dark Information Director, is laying transparent-documents on
the overhead-projector, and is telling about market-shares, and business-strategies. And
about food-safety. And from new year, it’s going to be a free of charge landline number,
so that everyone can call if they are having any questions about the pizzas.– And then they’ll get as few answers as us?
– I think you have gotten very good answers. There are some things we can’t say.
– But it’s emerging a stronger and stronger demand from consumers, to know more about the
production-process and origination?– I wont say how wer are going to provide information in the future. We’ll have to look
at this, Mageli says, and then it’s Mr. Grandiosa’s turn. He who was called up by Leif
Frode onarheim, more than twenty years ago, with the question if he could producy pizzas
at Stranda. Of course we can, Moss answered, hang up the phone, turned in bed, poked his
wife, and asked: ‘What’s pizza’? He didn’t know then, but the young people know, who
in the seventies revolutionised the eating habbits in the home, with home-made pizza.
After the revolution, pizza became a factory-produced product, eaten by everyone, and
which fitted well in a country, where one have to get by with a packed lunch, instead of
a hot lunch. And where the hunger demands the food to be put on the table, as soon as
one enters the door to ones home. Then the answer is, more often than in any other
country, frozen pizza. Or like social-antropolog and researcher on ‘Statens Institutt
for Forbruksforskning’ (The Governments Institute for Consumer Research), Mariann Lien,
says it:– The Grandiosa explains the pressure we are living under. It might be looked at as a
symbol of the development in the home. (Or it really says at the home-front).– So the Grandiosa is the price were paying for womens liberation?
– Price and price. I think it’s a totally alright meal. But it’s a good point, Lien says.
Ivar Moss turns around. He’s going to show us the factory, which he himself has been part
of constructing. But what we get to see, is the production of the pizza-bread. And the
packaging of the finished product. Thats it.– I’d love to let you join me in the shower, but you’ll never get to the topping-department.
We have stright hygienical restrictions, and it’s also top secret. We have many competitors.THEN WE DISAGREE
So this is how it turned out that we only got to see about 1.5 kilometers of the 3.5 kilo-
meter long production-line. And we get to know that the conserving-agent, the salt, the spice,
the hardener, and the tomato-puree, are imported from abroad. While tha meat, the cheese,
the milk-protein, the yeest, and the flour are domesticly produced. The soy-protein have
recently been switched to gelatine. Because the supplier, on a long term, couldn’t garantee,
suficient quantities of non gene-maniupalet soy. We don’t get to know anything more. And the
Information Manager is present, to make sure that nothing more than what the higher management
have decided, is being told.– But what quality can the basic ingridients have, with so low prices on the ready product, an in
a market, like the Norwegian, where the food-shop-chains, and not the suppliers, are in control?– Good. We have to have good basic ingridients, we have well developed systems who ensures the
level of the quality. Eg. we have our own veterinerian, Håkon Mageli says.– BUt the meat, how much meat is it really in it?
– You won’t accept no for an answer?
– No?
– Then we disagree. We’ll not tell anything more about the meat-case.
The yellow signs warnes people that aren’t clearified/related. Ivar Moss opens the door.
– Then I’ll walk in front, and you behind, Håkon, so that we have everything under control.
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Fwd: Complaint
10 February 2008
04:17
Subject
Fwd: Complaint
From
Erik Ribsskog
To
eribsskog@gmail.com
Sent
10 February 2008 04:13———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Jul 12, 2007 4:06 AM
Subject: Complaint
To: Richard.Little@liverpool.gov.uk
Cc: “Lennon, Linda” <linda.lennon@liverpool.gov.uk>, “Southern, Lesley” <Lesley.Southern@liverpool.gov.uk>Hi,
I’m refering to phone-call last week (4/7). I know I said I’d send this e-mail no
later than Wednesday, but I didn’t get to start on it untill late on Wednesday,
so it’s probably going to be Thursday untill I get to actually send the e-mail,
so sorry about that!Problems with washing women/girls in the mens changing-room during opening hours:
The first thing I wondered about, was regarding the problems described in
the e-mail I sent to Linda Lennon on 8/6, about the washing girl/women in
the mens changing-room.I’ll copy the text from that e-mail into this e-mail, since I have some questions
regarding that episode:to
date
Jun 8, 2007 10:58 PM
subject
Fwd: Statement
mailed-by
gmail.com
Hi,I just got back from the gym, it closed at 9 pm.
I just had to eat a bit and relax a bit after the work-out, or else I would have sent the
email at once.Because what I’m wondering about with the gym, is:
Is it really right that there should be female washing-staf in the mens wardrobe
at 8.45 pm, when the gym closes at 9pm?This happened again today, and it has also happened once before.
I used to workout a bit when I lived in Oslo and Sunderland as well, but they never
used to start washing the wardrobe until after the closing hours.So I think that since the gym is run by the Council, I think that they shouldn’t
have the washing-routines that includes female staff starting to wash in the
mens wardrobe as early as 8.45 pm.I think they should wait until after closing-hours to wash the mens wardrobe,
and that if they have to wash, then they could maybe instead wash the machines
in the gym or something else before the gym is closed.When I went into the mens wardrobe at 8.45 pm then there was a female washing
staff washing there, about 40 years maybe with dark hair.I think she was talking with a colleague in there, it was probably the other washing-
woman.
I was working out on the tread-mill by the reception untill a bit before 8.45 pm, and
then I saw the washing-staff walking around in the reception-area at around 8.40 pm.And one of the washing-staff looked quite young, maybe 16-17 years.
I think it must have been her that the washing-woman with dark hair spoke with in
the mens wardrobe at 8.45.I don’t think there should be that young female washing staff in the mens wardrobe
at 8.45, when the gym closes at 9.00pm.It has happened once earlier as well that there were female washing staff in the
mens wardrobe at around 8.45, and I just think that this isnt right.I think that both the staff in the gym and the washing staff should understand by
themselves that the female washing staff shouldnt start to wash in the mens
wardrobe untill after the closing hours at 9 pm, so thats why I havent complained
about this to the staff in the gym or the washing staff.
I think that it should be unecessary for me to tell this to them, I think they should
have understood this by themselves.And Im not really sure whos in charge there in the evenings eighter.
There has also been other incidents at the gym that I have thought to complain
about, but I havent untill now.
But with the washing-staff in the mens wardrobe again today at 8.45 pm, was
a bit like the final drop, so since Im not really sure whos in charge there in the
evening I thought that I could send you an email about this.
And also since one of the washing women was so young, it makes me a bit
worried about whats going on in the gym, when they put a washing woman/
girl that looked like she was maybe 16 or 17 in the mens wardrobe at 8.45pm,
so therefore I thought I should really just write the email now, because that this
is a bit unacceptable for a gym thats run by the Council.I know its a bit late to send emails at this hour, but it thought that since I think
that this way of organising the washing-routines in the gym is a bit unaceptable,
I thought that if I sent the email about this right after I got back from the gym,
then there would be less possibilites that eg. someone could say that I must have
mistaken the time etc, since now its just a quite short time since I left the gym,
so I reckoned that its best to send it right away, while I still have the details at
mind so to speak.So I hope that this is alright!
Sorry that I send the email this late.
Regards,
Erik Ribsskog
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From: Erik Ribsskog < eribsskog@gmail.com>
Date: Jun 8, 2007 3:45 PM
Subject: Statement
To: linda.lennon@liverpool.gov.ukHi,
I refer to the phone-call earlier today, and send the statement from
the bank about the duplicate payment with the direct-debit.Pleare just contact me if there is anything else I should have remembered.
Hope that this is alright!
Regards,
Erik Ribsskog
So my questions regarding this is:
1. How come that there are washing women/girls in the mens changing-room at 8.45 pm,
when the gym closes at 9 pm?2. Is the gym going to change its washing-routine, so that the washing women/girls dont
start to wash the mens changing-room untill after the gym is closed. (Because like I explained
in the e-mail to Linda Lennon, this with the washing women in the mens changing-room has
also happened earlier at the Millenium gym, but I’ve never seen it in other gyms).Problems with direct-debit processing errors/duplicate payments:
Also, I have been in contact with Lesley Southern, about some problems regarding processing
errors/duplicate direct debits from the gym.I explained to him that I would also bring up some the issues regarding this with you, so I think
its alright if I also copy the contents of that e-mail:from
Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
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“Southern, Lesley” <Lesley.Southern@liverpool.gov.uk>
date
Jul 10, 2007 6:18 PM
subject
Re: Earlier e-mails
mailed-by
Hi,
thank you very much for your answer.
I think it was very fine that you had the time to answer me, and I also think that it was very
fine that you have taken off my arrears due to the amount of time/inconvinience I have had
due to this.But since there were still some things I was wondering about, I thought I could try to send
you an enquiery about this, to try to maybe found out about this.I’ve written an explanation below, as comments on your e-mail, since I thought it was easier
to explain/answer this way.To summarize my questions:
1. Shouldn’t the gym have asked me first if they wanted to withdraw an extra payment (that they
had no mandate for) from my account in June?2. How come that there were still two payment-requests from the gym waiting to be withdrawn
from my account on 27/6, when firstly, the gym only have a mandate to withdraw one monthly
payment from my account. Secondly, I had agreed with the staff at the gym, that I would pay the
arrears when I recieved the swith-bonus from the bank. And thirdly, I had sent Linda Lennon,
Administration Manager at the Council an e-mail about this problem on 8/6, with a copy of the
statement from the bank, showing that there was a problem with the gym charging me duplicate
payments from my account for the month of June?3. How come that the gym still wanted to withdraw a (duplicate) payment from my account for the
month of July, when the gym was closed for refurbishment for six weeks from 25/6?I’m also going to contact the Duty Officer at the gym regarding why the gyms members weren’t
informed about the six weeks closure of the gym and more. So it might be that I’ll also ask him
about some of the same questions. (Like about why the gym still wanted to charge me even
if they were going to be closed etc.)I hope you have the time to answer me about this questions, since I thought some of these things
were a bit strange, so it would be nice to be informed about this.
So I hope that you bear over with me if I’m asking many questions!Thank you very much in advance!
Yours sincerely,
Erik Ribsskog
On 7/3/07, Southern, Lesley <Lesley.Southern@liverpool.gov.uk > wrote:
ErikYour enquiry regarding your direct debit payments has been passed onto myself for further investigation.
Unfortunately we cannot refund a payment to a member that has outstanding arrears, this is for audit purposes as we are required to provide details of all miscellaneous payments made to our members.
The action we have taken to date is to take your 1 month overpayment as your cancellation fee (which is normally 2 months) and we have taken your arrears off your membership record for the inconvenience caused as a result of the error.
– Regarding the overpayment, it wasn’t actually an overpayment, because when the bank saw that it had been a
process error/duplicate payment from the gym, then they transferred the duplicate payment back as a
‘interbranch payment’ on 6/6.(Secondly, I think that I shouldn’t recieve a cancellation fee, when the gym suddently closes for 6 weeks
for refurbishment. I think that then the gym should have first sent its members a letter about this, put
up a poster at the gym about this, and also not charged its members for the month that they are closed,
but I have to contact the Duty Officer at the gym about something else, so I’ll bring this up with him.)I have checked the Direct Debit report and it seems that the overpayment dates back to a missed January payment which has been allocated to your account on 30 th May. I will need to speak to our Direct Debit team to determine why a payment for January has been included in June’s Direct Debit report.
I’ve been speaking with the staff (including the Manager) at the gym several times about the arrears, and we agreed that I would
pay the arrears later, when I recieved some money I was expecting (a switch-bonus from the bank).This was agreed with Craig at the gym, when we set up the direct-debit agreement in May.
I spoke with Craig about this on 1/6 as well, since I hadn’t recieved the switch-bonus yet, and then I was informed
that the arrear was £70.50, and we agreed that I would pay this when I recieved the money from the bank.So my point is, that they should have told me first if they wanted to withdraw an extra payment from my account
on 1/6, so that I could have planned this in advance.Also, this (RBS) bank account was set up in May, so I don’t really understand how a missed direct-debit
payment to my old (Barclays) account in Januray, could suddently appear on my RBS-account in June?It seems a bit strange to me that this could happen, when I also had agreed several times with the staff
at the gym (in the month of March and then monthly), that I would pay the running bills, and that I’d pay the
arrears when I recieved the switch-bonus from RBS.Also I had been told by the staff at the gym, that there was no hurry at all with the arrears, as long as I
paid the running bills.– Also the bank told me when I called them in the beginning of June, that the gym wasn’t allowed to
withdraw more than one payment a month from my account, since they only had one mandate.– Also, when I called the gym on 26/6, to ask if they were open on 26/6, (since they were closed for
no apparent reason on 25/6), then I was told that the gym was closed for refurbishment for six weeks.I then thought that it wasn’t right that the gym should charge me for the month of July, when they were
closed. (I also thought they should have informed the members about the six weeks closure). So due
to this, I called my bank (the RBS customer-support line) on 27/6 to cancel the direct-debit.
I was then told that there were still two direct-debits from the gym on my account, both with the same,
reference-number (LIFE 800 1561).– So I was wondering, how come that there were still two payment-requests from the gym waiting to
be withdrawn on my account on 27/6, when firstly, the gym only have a mandate to withdraw one
monthly payment from my account. Secondly, I had agreed with the staff at the gym, that I would
pay the arrears when I recieved the swith-bonus from the bank, and thirdly, I had sent Linda Lennon,
Administration Manager at the Council an e-mail about this problem on 8/6, with a copy of the
statement from the bank, showing that there was a problem with the gym charging me duplicate
payments from my account?Your account has now been set to expired and no payment was requested in July.
Well, there were actually two payments requested in July (see above
So my questions regarding this is:3. Shouldn’t the gym have asked me first if they wanted to withdraw an extra payment (that they
had no mandate for) from my account in June?4. How come that there were still two payment-requests from the gym waiting to be withdrawn
from my account on 27/6, when firstly, the gym only have a mandate to withdraw one monthly
payment from my account. Secondly, I had agreed with the staff at the gym, that I would pay the
arrears when I recieved the swith-bonus from the bank. And thirdly, I had sent Linda Lennon,
Administration Manager at the Council an e-mail about this problem on 8/6, with a copy of the
statement from the bank, showing that there was a problem with the gym charging me duplicate
payments from my account for the month of June?Problems around the closure of the gym for six weeks from 25/6 due to refurbishment:
5. How come that the gym still wanted to withdraw a (duplicate) payment from my account for the
month of July, when the gym was closed for refurbishment for six weeks from 25/6?6. How come that there were no letters sent to the members of the gym regarding the closure
of the gym for six weeks from 25/6 due to refurbishment?7. How come that there were no poster in the gym informing the users of the gym that the gym
would be closed for six weeks from 25/6 due to refurbishment?8. How come that there was only a makeshift sign on the entrance-door to the millenium-
building saying ‘gym closed’, and nothing more when I went there to work out on the
evening on 25/6. (Shouldn’t it have been a proper sign, with information about why the
gym was closed, how long the gym was closed for, and not just some makeshift
sign written with an ink-marker)?9. How come that there were no information about the fact that the gym was closed, when
I went on the lifestyles website:on 26/6 (When the gym had been closed since 25/5)?
(I can see that it says that the gym is closed there now, but on 26/6, there was no information
about the gym being closed at all. I went there to see if it said anything on the website on 26/6,
since the gym was closed for no obvious reason on 25/6, but it didn’t say anything about the gym
being closed on the website, so I noted down the phone-number to the gym, and called the gym,
and they told me that the gym was closed for six weeks due to refurbishment.)10. How come that members of the gym were charged for the whole month of June, when the gym
was closed for refurbishment from 25/6? (Shouldn’t the six days from 25/6 to 30/6 have been
deducted from the charge?).Other problems at the gym:
Like I wrote in my e-mail to Linda Lennon on 8/6, there had also been other, earlier incidents at
the gym which I had thought to complain about.But like I also wrote, it wasn’t always easy to know who it was that was in charge there after the
manager had gone home, and him I only spoke with once, since I most often worked out in the
evening.And that the incident with the washing girls/women in the mens changing room again within the
opening hours was the last drop, so to speak.And then it was easier for me to complain, because then I had her e-mail address from before,
since I had sent her a copy of the statement from the bank, to document the problems with
the duplicate direct debit/processing error from the gym.So then it was easier for me to complain.
I’m going to try explain a bit more about the earlier incidents:
Problems with locker:
On 26/4, it says in my note-book, I was at the gym.
I work with office-work, so I try to work out quite often, and I usually use different lockers at the
gym, depending on which locker of the lockers that are free etc.And when one work out 3-5 days a week for some time, and you have a different locker each time,
then it could be that one forgets exactly which locker one uses this particular time.And, since only about half of the key-rings with the keys for the lockers had tag-numbers on them,
this could be a bit confusing.So when I was finished with the work-out, and I went to the area of the changing-room where my
locker was, then the locker wouldn’t open.Like I wrote, I use different lockers each time, depending on which lockers that are free, where in
the changing-room it is less crowded etc.So it isn’t that easy to be exactly sure if it is that particular locker, especially since the key-ring
to the locker (like about half of the other key-rings, i noticed later), lacked a number-tag on it,
to specify which locker it belonged to.I usually dont keep things like my wallet etc. in the locker, since its a big gym, always many
people there, and I would get a lot of inconvienience if something happened to my wallet etc.,
so I didn’t keep the most ‘valuble’ things in the locker.I use to keep my note-book with my wallet, so I had my note-book still on me, and I thought it
was a bit embarresing going to the reception explaining that I coultn’t find my locker, so I decided
to be 100% sure before I did that.
So, I just wrote down the numbers of all the lockers in my note-book, and then I checked each
and every locker, and crossed the number for that locker in my note-book.
I made sure to check each lock thoroughly.So, when I had checked each lock in the changing-room, and the key didn’t fit in any of them,
then I went to the reception to explain.It was still quite embarresing, but at least now I had the note-book to show that I had tryed all
of the locks.There were about 5 or 6 people sitting in the reception, and the woman in charge, told Neil to
help me with this.I explained to Neil that maybe the smartest thing for me would be to return at closing-time,
when all the other users of the gym had gone home, then it would only be one locker left
to check.I was holding my note-book still, so I wrote down that Neil started acting a bit like a sergeant
in the army, knocking his fist into the side of the enterance to the changing-room and screaming
/comanding: ‘come here’.I thought this behaviour was a bit peculiar, but I went after him into the changing-room, and then
he starting to ask if I had been having a few beers. (Since I couldnt remember the number for
the locker).I asked him what his name was, and wrote it down.
Then I showed him that I had tryed all the lockers, and that noone worked, and that there wasnt
any number-tag on the key-chain for the locker.He asked me which locker I thought it was, and I told him that I thought it was the number 156
one. (It says in my note-book).So he asked me to give him the key, so that he could try the number 156 locker and the
surrounding lockers.But he couldnt manage to open any of them, so he went to find the master-key.
This took a bit of time, but he returned and then opened the locker with the new key.
It was locker 156, and I showed him in my note-book that I had already tryed to open
locker 156 with the key, because I had crossed out that number in the note-book.Neil said that ‘the locks often get stuck.’, I can see from my note-book.
I found a new locker (since I didnt have the key any longer to the 156 one), and Neil
reminded me to remember the key-number.I told him that I thought that there should be key-tags on the key-rings for the lockers.
Also, the next time I went to the gym, the woman in charge reminded me that I should
remember the key-number, and then I told the woman in charge that I thought that
there should be key-tags on the key-rings. (But there still wasnt done anything
with this problem, and about half of the key-rings were still missing a key-tag
for the remainder of the time I was working out at the gym).So my questions regarding this is:
11. How come there are so much problems with the locks getting stuck in the lockers?
I mean, surely the gym bought new lockers when they opened? And its the Millennium
building gym, so the building and the gym can’t be that old? (Did someone buy used
lockers for the gym when it opened)?12. How come the gym doesn’t use oil in the locks for the lockers, if it, like Neil said,
is a problem with the ‘locks often get stuck’?13: And why didn’t the gym put key-tags on the lockers, when about half of the key-
tags were missing, and I had spoken about this problem with both Neil and the woman
who was in charge there on the day this incident ocured, I think it was on 26/4?Problems with the washing of the machines:
When I wrote the e-mail about the problem with the washing women/girls in the
mens changing-room in the opening hours, then it came to mind that maybe
the washing-should should rather wash the machines, and then wait untill
the gym has closed, before they washed the changing-rooms.The reason I thought about this, is because I remembered an incident from when
I was working out, I think it must have been in April or May.
Then I was working out at the thread-mill, and this was I seem to remember hours
before closing-time.There were a couple of washing-ladys there, even if it was still a few hours until
closing-time.They were just walking around a bit, seemingly not certain on the routine.
But then one of the washing ladies started to wash the stepping-machine in front
of me. But what I thought was a bit strange, was that she only washed the tip of
one of the handles of the stepping machine, and then nothing else. This she did
twice with a few minuttes inbetween.Other than that, I couldn’t see that eighter she or her collegue washed any of the
other machines. (They looked a bit lost there, walking around with their buckets
while the gym was still quite crowded, since it was hours till closing-time.)My question regarding this is:
14: Shouldn’t the washing-staff put up a sign near the machines when they wash
them during the time of which the gym is open? Couldn’t people get hurt if
they work out on machines that are slippery from being washed? I seem to
remember from other places I’ve been working etc., that yellow plastic signs
are being put on the floor etc., saying that one have to be careful since its
newly washed, so shouldn’t the washing staff in the gym also do this when
they clean the machines within the opening hours?Problems with staff:
Like I’ve written, there have been some incedents before that I have wondered
if I should complain about, but I’m not always sure whos in charge there, so
this makes it a bit more tricky to complain, and I’ve also had the problem
with the arrears on my membership, and the manager let me work out
there and pay the arrears later, so there was a threshold before I would
complain.But I wrote down in my note-book a couple of things I reacted on anyway.
I was wondering a bit what was going on there, e.g. on 24/5 Craig and
a blond girl sits in the reception.Only Craig logs in the members, even if there is a long queue. The girl
is only watching. (I think maybe she is his girlfriend, since I noticed
them sitting very close once when I wanted to log in).So I was wondering, if there is a long queue, surely both of them could
log in the users of the gym, so that they wouldn’t have to wait in a line,
like if some of the customers are there to sign up for a membership,
then still everyone have to wait in one line, even if there are more
staff at work.
So then I was wondering what is the girl doing there, if she cant log in
the customers, and is only sitting watching.And I think she had been working there a while then, so I dont think
she was on training.So this seemed a bit strange to me, so I thought I could mention it
while Im writing this e-mail anyway.Also, I remember, that one Friday I was working out there, then they
annonced the closing of the gym like this:‘The gym will be closing in 60 minutes’, ‘The gym will be closing in
45 minutes’, ‘The gym will be closing in 30 minutes’, ‘The gym will
be closing in 15 minutes’.
I think it was the same girl, but it seemed like it was Craig that told
her to say it.Normally they only say ‘The gym will be closing in 20 minuttes’, or
something like this, so I thought I could mention this as well, even
if its maybe not so important what they say on the calling-system
in the Friday evenings? Anyway, I thought I could mention it while
I was writing the e-mail anyway.My question to this is:
15. How come the staff only sits watching while the customers are
standing in line?16. Shouldn’t the staff have name-tags, where it said name and title,
so that it would be easier for the users of the gym to know who to
speak with regarding different problems. (So that they know who
are in charge)?(For instance, on the day when there were washing girls/women in
the mens changing room, and they must have been there from
around 8.40 pm. or earlier, because I went in there on 8.45 pm,
and then they were well into their routine it looked like, before I
turned and went home.On that day (8/6), the staff that were working around closing-time,
was Neil, a young girl that wears high-healed shoes and blouse,
and a man around 40 years maybe that I think could maybe is the
girls father, because I saw him standing very close to the girl once.I thought maybe the girl was in a kind of responsible position there,
since she wear office-clothes, but the guy in his forthies I reckon
also could be in charge there, since hes the oldest etc., and also
Neil I reckoned could have been in charge, since he has access
to the master-keys etc.So its a bit embarrasing asking about whos in charge, because
you wouldn’t want to offend anyone, with asking whos in charge,
and then its actually that person who is in charge.I don’t say that it is impossible for the customers of the gym to
find out whose in charge, but I thought that it could maybe add
to the general level of customer-service at the gym if the staff
was wearing name-tags.I wrote down a note of who that was working that day, so that
I would know later, since I wrote the e-mail that day with the
complaint about the washing-staff in the chaning-room, so I
thought I’d write it down, in case it became an issue.)17. Should they really anounce that the gym is closing in 60 minutes,
and that the gym is closing in 45 minutes etc.?Problems with direct-debit agreement on 13/12/06:
While I was looking for some notes before I started writing this
e-mail now, I found a letter from the gym from 8/12/06.I’ll just write what it says:
‘Dear Mr. Ribsskog,
RE: Lifestyles Membership No: LDD121346
As a valued Lifestyles member, I was surprised to find that your monthly
Lifestyles subscription of £23.50 due earlier this month has not been paid.You may be aware of this already and have made payment at the
Lifestyles centre, if so, please accept my apologies.If you have not paid these arrears, I would ask that you pay them at your
earliest convienience by contacting your nearest Lifestyles Centre. Your
membership account can be updated at any of the centres and you can
pay either by cash, cheque, credit or debit card.Please contact Liverpool Direct on 0151 233 3007 for the number of your
nearest Lifestye centre.I regret that until any arrears have been paid, standard admission
charges will apply and you will lose the benefits of your membership.Yours feithfully
Steve Kneale
Business Development Manager’.
(I write quite fast, so I thought I could just write it down, so that it would be
easier to understand what I meant.)There were some problems regarding me switching from a Barclays Cashcard
account to a Barclays Current-account at around the end of November/beginning
of December 2006.The problem was that my pay from work was switched to the new current-account,
whereas the direct-debits remained connected to the old account.I was in a busy period with work etc., so I didnt think about this problem before I
got a letter from the bank about it.
So I went to the bank, and transfered all my direct-debits from my old Barlays
cashcard account, and to my new Barclays current/visa account.
The clerk in the bank did this for me, it was a quite routine operation it seemed
to me.Exept for the Lifestyles direct-debit for some reason.
This direct-debit had been canceled right away, in a way so that the clerk in the
bank couldnt transfer it to the new account.And when I went to the gym on 13/12, I had to pay the charge for Decemeber at
the gym, and it wasn’t possible for me to just switch the existing direct-debit
agreement from my old Barlays Cashcard account to my new Barclays Current
account, but I had to fill out a new form all over again to set up the new
direct debit agreement on my new account.I accept that it was my fault with forgetting to transfer the direct-debit to the
new account (It was some comunication-problem at work, with me informing
work that I had got a new bank-account, but with work not giving me any
feedback on that they had changed my account information in the payment
system).But because of the later problem with the direct debits now in June, I thought
I could ask a couple of questions regarding this as well, while I’m at it, so to
speak.18: How come that the gym canceled my direct-debit between 1/12 and 8/12,
and sent me a letter on 8/12, where it said that I had to go to the gym and
pay in cash, when I had never had any payment problems with the gym before
this, and all the other direct-debits were possible to switch (for the clerk at
the bank to my new account), except the gyms direct-debit? Shouldn’t the
gym have tryed to collect the payment from my account again 7-14 days
later, like the clerk in the bank told me that the other companies did?19: Why did I have to write my signature on, and fill out a new form all over
again on 13/12, for a new direct-debit. Didn’t the gym have all my information
from before, have one got to fill out and sign a new form just because one
gets a new account-number, when one are still using the same bank?(The signature of the women I spoke with on the gym on 13/12/06, looks
like it says Probert as a last name by the way, in case that makes it
any easier to find out about this.I remember I thought it was strange that I had to fill out the form all over
again, just because of the problem of the one payment due to the
problems with changing the direct-debits and my pay from work to
the new account, in a coordinated way.Because it didn’t seem to be a similiar problem with the other companies
that also had direct-debits on my account, so therefore I remember that
I thought that this was a bit strange.
And now, due to the other problems with the direct-debits again, now in
June, I thought I’d just ask about the earlier problems, since they came
to mind now.also this:
How come I got a letter sent 8 days after the missed payment in December,
where as later, in January, February and March (with the new direct-debit set
up on 13/12), I didn’t get a letter at all.It went on for two or three months, it must have been, before someone reminded
me that there were arrears on my membership.I was quite busy in this time-periode, even if I was unemployed, so I didn’t
have so much money then, so I should maybe have spoken with the staff about
this myself, but I much problems with paying my rent etc., and I was glad to
have the oppertunity to work-out, since it was a bit stressing not having a
job, and it helped to work-out to relax from the stress.And also, the staff gave different information to me regarding the arrears. The
girl wearing office-wear, and who worked on 8/6, for instance, told me on
one occation that it wasn’t a hurry paying the arrears at all. (As long as I
paid the running bills, which I did).And other members of staff, Craig for instance, told me that I had to pay the
arrears before a certain date, (I spoke with the manager and got an extension,
and later I agreed with Craig that I would pay the arrears when I got first the
loan I was promised from the bank, and later the switch-bonus I was promised
from the bank.)So the questions regarding this:
20: How come in December I get a letter for not paying after 8 days, where as
in the new year, it goes in the region of two or three months without recieving
a letter or reminder from the staff, even if I worked out several times a week?21: How come one member of the staff (the girl with the office-wear who worked
on 8/6), says that there is no hurry with the arrears, where as another member
of staff (Craig), says that I have to pay before this and this date? How is this
really supposed to be, according to the rules?(I appriciate very much that I was allowed to work out at the gym even if I had
arrears, so it’s not because I am ungrateful that I ask about these things. It’s
just that due to the other problems, with the washing-women/girls in the changing
room, and the problems with the continuing processing errors and duplicate
payments with the direct debits.And also due to the problems surrounding the unanounced closure of the gym
for six weeks due to refurbishment.Due to these problems, I thought it would be best to mention all the other
problems while I was at it. Even if some of these problems aren’t maybe
that serious in themselves, I anyway thought that they were worth bringing
up, because, I think, thay add to a general picture of things at the gym
being a bit out of hand, so due to this I’m a bit concerned about whats
really going on at the gym, and then I thought it would be best to mentioned
all the things that came to mind, because these things, even if it isn’t clear
to me here and now that there for certain is a problem conected with them,
it could be a problem, so I thought it would be the most responsible thing
to do, to also add the latter part of the problems, the ones that are mentioned
under the title ‘other problems’.So even if it was the first five or ten questions that made me go to the step
of complaining. Even so, I hope you have the oppertunity to answer me about
the last part of the questions as well.Sorry again that this e-mail got a bit delayed. I know I said I’d send it no latter
than Wednesday, but I reckon that as long as I send it before the office hours
on Thursday, then it hopefully should be ok.I’ll also forward this e-mail to Linda Lennon and Lesley Southern, since I’ve been
copying the e-mails I’ve sent to them earlier, in this e-mail now.Hope that this is alright, and that you bear over with me if some of the last questions
wasn’t as well stated as they should have been, due to time problems etc.Hope that this is alright!
Yours sincerely,
Erik Ribsskog
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10th August 2007 Enquiries: Steve Kneale
Direct Line: 0151 233 6362
Our ref. SK 10Au 07
Mr. E. Ribsskog
via e-mail.
eribsskog@gmail.com
Dear Eric,
Thank you for sending us your comments dated 6th August 2007, that have fed into our ‘Have Your Say’ customer feedback system.
Your communication raises a number of issues, some of which I understand have resulted in responses. However, if any of your previous communications have not been satisfactorily resolved or even responded to then please accept my sincere apologies. I will however try to address your concerns below.
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With regard your direct debit subscription to Lifestyles. I am aware of some problems you encountered. In November 2006 we installed a new It system into the Lifestyles centres that did result in a number of problems with collections. These are now resolved and I understand your account is in balance, as advised via e-mail dated 3rd July 2007.
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Within the Lifestyles Millennium we strive to provide a high quality service. We do employ cleaners who should not have entered the male changing areas when persons were present and we have changed the cleaning regime to stop this happening in future.
Cleaning staff, together with the fitness instructors are required to clean all areas including the fitness equipment but not interfere with member’s enjoyment of using the centre.
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Lifestyles Millennium has been closed since 25th June and will re-open on Monday 13th August 2007 to allow essential repairs in the shower areas. Messages were put on the Wellness system and notices displayed in the facility for 2 weeks prior to closure in accordance with our customer charter.
We have informed Liverpool Direct of updates and tried to keep the internet updated as we received feedback from contractors with regards the re-opening date.
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Members who used Lifestyles Millennium were reimbursed due to its closure and were informed in writing to their home address.
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All staff are expected to wear identity badges at all times. Although this does not denote their designation nor authority. Members should be encouraged to report any incidents to any member of staff who will attempt to resolve the matter or report it to a senior colleague. If you have any further cause to report a matter at our facilities I would ask you ask to speak with the duty manager. If you feel this is inappropriate at the time, please can you contact me directly, ideally by telephone to discuss at the earliest opportunity.
I wish to thank you again for your valued feedback.
If you remain dissatisfied with the response to your complaint, please contact me either via e-mail, telephone or in writing, where the matter can be escalated to a further stage.
Yours faithfully
Steve Kneale
Business Development Manager
Sport & Recreation Service
steve.kneale@liverpool.gov.uk
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