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    Erik Ribsskog

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    DHS TRIP Attention: Control number 2040389





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:20 AM





    To:

    trip@dhs.gov



    Hi,

     

    I can't see that I've received an answer to this e-mail yet, so I'm sending it again.

    Yours sincerely,

     

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    Date: Aug 18, 2008 4:24 PM

    Subject: Fwd: DHS TRIP Attention: Control number 2040389
    To: trip@dhs.gov

     


    Hi,

     

    I tried to track the control-number, belonging to my complaint, on your online complaint tracking service,

    and I got this result:

     

    'Pending Paperwork
    DHS has received your application but has not received the required identification documents or the signed Acknowledge Page.  We are not able to process your application without this information.  Please submit these documents by Mail or Electronic Mail:

    US Mail
    Department of Homeland Security (TRIP) Re: 2040389
    601 South 12th Street TSA-901
    Arlington, VA 22202

    Electronic Mail: trip@dhs.gov '.

     

    I was wondering if you could please have a look at this problem, since I think I've sent you the information you require.

     

    (I've also sent you an update on the comlaint, by the way, I'll include a copy of this update, in a PS).

     

    Hope that you have the chance to have a look at this!

     

    Sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

     

    PS.

     

    Here is a copy of the e-mail I sent you, with the update, from 8. august:

     

    From: eribsskog@gmail.com Erik Ribsskog
    To: trip@dhs.gov

    Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:00:51 +0100
    Subject: DHS TRIP Attention: Control number 2040389/Fwd: Complaint.

    Hi,

    I'm sending an update to my complaint with you.

    Like one can see, in the complaint I sent Lufthansa, there were some

    problems with the Immgration/holiday form.

    I wasn't given a form, by the Lufthansa-crew.

    So I tried to find a form, in Norwegian or English, by the passport-control.

    So I explained to the Detrot passport control staff, that I spoke Norwegian.

    Then one of the staff, screamed to me, 'Sprechen sie deutch'.

    But I have only picked up a bit of German, on holidays, so then I answered
    'Nicht sehr gut', since I'm not used
    with writing og reading in German, I'm only used with talking a bit German,

    but not much at all.

    I've never learned German in school, for instance, I've only picked up a few
    words, on holiday in Switzerland,
    and from my co-study abroad students, on University of Sunderland, in 2004.

    So I was looking for an English form, since I've learned English at school,
    or a Norwegian form, since these
    are the only languages, that I've formally learned.

    But I was given a French(!) form, by the airport staff.

    I think they gave me the French form, in a way, to say that they thought I
    was gay, since I didn't want to fill out a German form.

    I overheard the staff, that asked me if I spoke German, talk about me, to

    the other staff, that I spoke fluently German, but
    didn't want a German form.

    So I think they started fucking with me, because of this incident with the
    form, and sent me back to Europe, and that the American Police, have in some

    way been involved in that I've been used as a target-guy, like I've
    overheard.

    That's what I think.

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Aug 8, 2008 9:42 AM
    Subject: Complaint.
    To: lufthansa@lufthansa.de

    Hi,

    on 25. February 2005, I went on a flight from Frankfurt to Detroit.

    On the flight, a Lufthansa officer, asked me which country I was from, and I
    said Norway,
    and then I wasn't given a US Imigration-form, like all the other passengers
    got.

    So then I got a bit of problems, in the passport-control, in Detroit, since

    there weren't
    any Norwegian or English forms there.

    They asked me if I spoke German, but I only speak a bit German, that I've
    learned
    on holidays etc., so then I was given a French form, by the Detroit

    passport-control
    officers, when I explained them, that I didn't speak that much German.

    And then, later, the Airport Police, refused me entry to the US, for some
    obscure
    reason.

    And then they also told me, that I had to go back to Europe, but that

    Lufthansa, didn't
    want to help, with getting back to Europe.

    So I was wondering about, and wanted to complain, about these things:

    1. Why wasn't I given an imigration/holiday-form aboard the flight?

    2. Why were Lufthansa unwilling to offer me a ticket back to Europe, (like
    the Detroit Airport Police explained to me)?

    I hope you have the chance to explain about these incidents, since I think
    they were a bit strange.

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog
     


    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>

    Date: Aug 4, 2008 7:50 PM
    Subject: DHS TRIP Attention: Control number 2040389
    To: trip@dhs.gov

     

    Hi,

    I sent an online DHS TRIP complaint-form earlier today.

    And I'm enclosing a copy of the form, and two scans, from my passport.

    (Unfortunatly, I didn't have any ink on the printer now, so I just took a screen-shot, of the DHS TRIP form, and signed in Paint).

    Hope this is alright, please contact me if there is more information that is needed.

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog









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    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>




    Complaint.





    Erik Ribsskog

    <eribsskog@gmail.com>





    Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:00 AM





    To:

    info@dlh.de



    Hi,

     

    I can't see that I've recieved any answer to this e-mail, so I'm trying to send it again.

    Yours sincerely,

     

    Erik Ribsskog

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>
    Date: Aug 9, 2008 8:36 PM

    Subject: Fwd: Complaint.
    To: info@dlh.de

     


    Hi,

    I found your e-mail adresses, on an online directory called worldtourismdirectory.com, and I'm trying

    to send the e-mail again, to this e-mail address, since there seemed to be some problems with the

    first e-mail address, that I tried to send this e-mail to.

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog



    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Erik Ribsskog <eribsskog@gmail.com>


    Date: Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:42 AM
    Subject: Complaint.
    To: lufthansa@lufthansa.de

    Hi,

     

    on 25. February 2005, I went on a flight from Frankfurt to Detroit.

    On the flight, a Lufthansa officer, asked me which country I was from, and I said Norway,

    and then I wasn't given a US Imigration-form, like all the other passengers got.

    So then I got a bit of problems, in the passport-control, in Detroit, since there weren't

    any Norwegian or English forms there.

    They asked me if I spoke German, but I only speak a bit German, that I've learned

    on holidays etc., so then I was given a French form, by the Detroit passport-control

    officers, when I explained them, that I didn't speak that much German.

     

    And then, later, the Airport Police, refused me entry to the US, for some obscure

    reason.

    And then they also told me, that I had to go back to Europe, but that Lufthansa, didn't

    want to help, with getting back to Europe.

    So I was wondering about, and wanted to complain, about these things:

     

    1. Why wasn't I given an imigration/holiday-form aboard the flight?

     

    2. Why were Lufthansa unwilling to offer me a ticket back to Europe, (like the Detroit Airport Police explained to me)?

     

    I hope you have the chance to explain about these incidents, since I think they were a bit strange.

     

    Yours sincerely,

    Erik Ribsskog

     







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    Quoted comment by fozzy5000: i would be happy to be searched by police if it means that they are trying to keep gun and knife crime down. i got nothing to hide so why should i give a fuck if 2 mins of my time is waisted. its catch 22 for the cops if they serach too many ppl its harrasment and they get fucked over and if they dont search enogh ppl and someone gets stabbed then they have not donethere job well enough. i am pretty sure cops dont carry crystal balls so they just have to search as many ppl as possible to make sure they get the bad guys. if your inconvienienced then tough shit. rather that than be stabbed on a night out eh!


    Why don’t you move to china then. Here in the USA, I will do everything to protect the rights of myself, and my kids. It’s this kind of attitude that starts the cracks in the system, and next thing you know, you are living under martial law.

    You people have been scared into submission. I pity you all.


    so let me quess, your one of these retards that think we dont need a legal system, dont need cops and so on. are you fucking retarded or what. I have kids aswell and i would rather be stopped and searched and come away clean than see the police not want to stop and searches becasue they are worried some fucking pipsqeek like you is going to get offended that your human rights have been breached by someone that wants to make the streets a safer place for everyone. Its ppl like YOU that ruin our contries, not ppl like me.


    Well, here in America, we have something called probable cause, as well as illegal search and seizure. You brits gave that up years ago, along with your guns. No wonder GB is becoming a muslim state. In 10 years, all your crooked teethed women will be wearing burqas. LOL


    fuck probable cause. just get it over and one with, treat me nice but with saftey first in mind and i dont give a fuck. i got nothing to hide. and as for our crooked toothed women, at least our women have teeth and dont all weigh about half a ton. Crawl back into your hole and stfu. the prob with america is the fact that everyone is too scared to do fuck all about the crims as they are to scared of the repurcusions. here they just get on with it. Although i do agree that we are turning into a muslim state but hopefully something will happen and that will be sorted.


    So you miss or ignore the many stories about criminals getting shot by the ordinary folks over here.


    I probably shouldn’t write this, since I’m from Norway.

    But in Britain, the Police, chased a Brazilian through London, an on to the tube, where they executed him.

    And he was just a normal guy.

    So I’m not sure if everything is like it should be, with the Police here.


    He was not a normal guy, he was an illegal immigrant who refused to stop when armed police asked him to. He then ran onto a packed tube train where he could have set off an explosive device. The idiot who shouldn’t have even been here should’ve stopped when the police asked him to.

    This is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence. You seem extremely paranoid.


    If he wasn’t a normal guy, why did they let his family come over, and look at the murder-scene etc., like I saw on TV?


    A normal guy in Britain is a British citizen, the man in question was not. His family were invited because his death was a public relations disaster for the authorities.

    My point still stands; this is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence.


    I’ve thought more about this, in the mean-time, since you haven’t replied yet.

    Did the British Police, tell the Brazilian guys parents, when they were in London, that they thought it was ok to kill him, since he wasn’t a normal person, since he wasn’t a Brit?

    I don’t think they can have told them that, since they didn’t want to press charges, against the British Police.

    So I think something doesn’t add up here.

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    Quoted comment by japapadex: It is possible that they might be searching for drugs, or it could be a high risk area whereas they will just stop and search anybody. Zero tolerance is very much in force in the merseyside area.


    Zero tolerance for walking on the pavement?


    It sometimes depends on the area or even it could be down to a particular street or road, certain restricted zones will not allow more than two youths wether it be male or female to hang around, i think the police must have had reason to search these girls, but without any more facts it is difficult to say. Just because they are girls does not mean that they are incapable of committing an offence, some girls that i know from the Liverpool are worse than the lads.


    Well, this was in Dale St., in the center of Liverpool.

    Not far from the Town Hall, and Matthew St., and the discos etc.

    And these people, were just normal people walking on the pavemant, as I could see.

    And they said that the police just frisked everyone.

    I’ve overheard people saying this earlier as well, in Dale St, in the Spar shop, on a Saturday evening.

    That they were just brought in to a Police-car, and had never seen Police like that.

    Seemed like ordinary people going out to me, on both occations.

    The girls, who had got their bags looked through by the Police, acted polite.

    I was maybe a bit inpolite, in asking them why the Police looked through their stuff, but it was a Saturday night, and I was a bit curious.

    Then one of them explained, that the Police just ‘frisked everone’, and the otherone complained, to the first one, that she was getting a headache, I think she said, so I don’t think these girls acted like criminals.

    So I thought this was a bit akward.

    Is it ok for the Police to stop, and frisk, people who are just walking on the pavement.

    In Norway, where I’m from.

    I worked a lot, as a shop-manager, in Norway.

    And I lived in a small flat, which I rented from my employer, (Rimi/Ica), and the fridge didn’t work, and they didn’t want to change it.

    So before I got to buy a new fridge, then I sometimes, used to drive, to a petrol-station etc., at night, to buy a snack, or some food.

    And then the Police in Oslo, would stop you, for no reason at all.

    And ask for your drivers-licence, and once when I was tired from work, then they asked me to go out of the car, to look at my pupils etc.

    They must have thought I was a criminal or something, when all I did, was to drive to 7-eleven, to buy some food etc., or I drove my brother home, once, when he had been visiting me.

    And then for no reason at all, the Police are going drive behind you, and ask you to stop.

    They call it ‘rutine kontroll’, thats ‘routine-control’.

    So it’s maybe so, that the Police in eighter Norway or Britain, don’t need any reason, to stop you, and go through your stuff, or your car etc.

    It’s not in America, I guess, where the Police aren’t allowed to just stop people walking on the pavement, or just driving a car, if I’ve understood it right, that is.


    It sounds by what you have described that the police seemed to be looking for something in particular, possibly they had information whereas they deemed it necessary to stop and search, and i am pretty certain that they have the authority to stop and search anybody they choose as long as they have just cause to do so. but i still think that they need the persons permission to do so.

    I suppose as you stated the routine control in Oslo must be a similar variation of upholding the law as to what you witnessed in Liverpool.

    It does appear unfair from your point of view i suppose, but have you lived in the Liverpool area for a while, or are you fairly new to the area, because once you understand the people and the area you will soon become accustomed to why the police act this way, as it is normally a case of they are normally searching for drugs and weapons, and in Liverpool both drugs and weapons are usually high profile causes. I don’t know wether this information helps you in anyway to understand why the police do a stop and search, but i do hope it will assist you in some way.


    Yes,

    that’s what I meant, that in Norway, you can be stoped by the Police, for driving on the street, and in Britain you can be stoped by the Police, for walking on the pavement, where as, in America, the Police can’t stop you, without ‘probable cause’, or something similar.

    I was just reflecting a bit around this.

    But now it’s clear to me, that the UK police, don’t need probable cause, to frisk someone.

    So thanks very much for help with finding out about that!

    I walked around the block, and then I saw the same two Police-officers standing outside of the discos in Eberle St., I think that lane is called.

    So I don’t think they were on some mission of any kind, other than to patrol the streets, on a Saturday night.

    And the girls said that they just ‘frisked everyone’.

    And I haven’t the police act like this, in other cities.

    It was also the incident, in Matthew St., a couple of months ago, that I posted about, a couple of weeks ago, when I first heard of this site.

    I’ve been living in Liverpool, for three years now, in Walton, and in the city centre, and I think normal people usually behave very polite and fine here.

    I can’t remember seeing a single fight, when I’ve been going out.

    I think the guns and that, is more in the suburbs in Liverpool?

    I can’t remember hearing of any shooting-incidents, in the city center of Liverpool.

    So I think the way the police in this city acts, is a bit strange, from having lived in Oslo for many years, and also in Sunderland.

    In the incident in Matthew St., it looked like the police were practically raping the girl.

    (Look at the post I posted some weeks ago).

    And in the link to the case I have against Arvato/Microsoft, there one can see, that the Merseyside Police, call me ‘Miss Erik Ribsskog’, and they also lied, and said that the Citizens Advice Bureaux, was Government, when it’s a charity.

    And they are having phoney e-mail-adresses, and are acting at bullies, in the meetings etc, I’d say.

    So I’m not that convinced about the Merseyside Police, so that’s why I’m posting about these incidents.

    Thanks again for the information about the British Police in your comment!

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    Quoted comment by japapadex:

    Quoted comment by johncons:

    Quoted comment by japapadex:

    Quoted comment by johncons:

    Quoted comment by japapadex: It is possible that they might be searching for drugs, or it could be a high risk area whereas they will just stop and search anybody. Zero tolerance is very much in force in the merseyside area.


    Zero tolerance for walking on the pavement?


    It sometimes depends on the area or even it could be down to a particular street or road, certain restricted zones will not allow more than two youths wether it be male or female to hang around, i think the police must have had reason to search these girls, but without any more facts it is difficult to say. Just because they are girls does not mean that they are incapable of committing an offence, some girls that i know from the Liverpool are worse than the lads.


    Well, this was in Dale St., in the center of Liverpool.

    Not far from the Town Hall, and Matthew St., and the discos etc.

    And these people, were just normal people walking on the pavemant, as I could see.

    And they said that the police just frisked everyone.

    I’ve overheard people saying this earlier as well, in Dale St, in the Spar shop, on a Saturday evening.

    That they were just brought in to a Police-car, and had never seen Police like that.

    Seemed like ordinary people going out to me, on both occations.

    The girls, who had got their bags looked through by the Police, acted polite.

    I was maybe a bit inpolite, in asking them why the Police looked through their stuff, but it was a Saturday night, and I was a bit curious.

    Then one of them explained, that the Police just ‘frisked everone’, and the otherone complained, to the first one, that she was getting a headache, I think she said, so I don’t think these girls acted like criminals.

    So I thought this was a bit akward.

    Is it ok for the Police to stop, and frisk, people who are just walking on the pavement.

    In Norway, where I’m from.

    I worked a lot, as a shop-manager, in Norway.

    And I lived in a small flat, which I rented from my employer, (Rimi/Ica), and the fridge didn’t work, and they didn’t want to change it.

    So before I got to buy a new fridge, then I sometimes, used to drive, to a petrol-station etc., at night, to buy a snack, or some food.

    And then the Police in Oslo, would stop you, for no reason at all.

    And ask for your drivers-licence, and once when I was tired from work, then they asked me to go out of the car, to look at my pupils etc.

    They must have thought I was a criminal or something, when all I did, was to drive to 7-eleven, to buy some food etc., or I drove my brother home, once, when he had been visiting me.

    And then for no reason at all, the Police are going drive behind you, and ask you to stop.

    They call it ‘rutine kontroll’, thats ‘routine-control’.

    So it’s maybe so, that the Police in eighter Norway or Britain, don’t need any reason, to stop you, and go through your stuff, or your car etc.

    It’s not in America, I guess, where the Police aren’t allowed to just stop people walking on the pavement, or just driving a car, if I’ve understood it right, that is.


    It sounds by what you have described that the police seemed to be looking for something in particular, possibly they had information whereas they deemed it necessary to stop and search, and i am pretty certain that they have the authority to stop and search anybody they choose as long as they have just cause to do so. but i still think that they need the persons permission to do so.

    I suppose as you stated the routine control in Oslo must be a similar variation of upholding the law as to what you witnessed in Liverpool.

    It does appear unfair from your point of view i suppose, but have you lived in the Liverpool area for a while, or are you fairly new to the area, because once you understand the people and the area you will soon become accustomed to why the police act this way, as it is normally a case of they are normally searching for drugs and weapons, and in Liverpool both drugs and weapons are usually high profile causes. I don’t know wether this information helps you in anyway to understand why the police do a stop and search, but i do hope it will assist you in some way.


    Yes,

    that’s what I meant, that in Norway, you can be stoped by the Police, for driving on the street, and in Britain you can be stoped by the Police, for walking on the pavement, where as, in America, the Police can’t stop you, without ‘probable cause’, or something similar.

    I was just reflecting a bit around this.

    But now it’s clear to me, that the UK police, don’t need probable cause, to frisk someone.

    So thanks very much for help with finding out about that!

    I walked around the block, and then I saw the same two Police-officers standing outside of the discos in Eberle St., I think that lane is called.

    So I don’t think they were on some mission of any kind, other than to patrol the streets, on a Saturday night.

    And the girls said that they just ‘frisked everyone’.

    And I haven’t the police act like this, in other cities.

    It was also the incident, in Matthew St., a couple of months ago, that I posted about, a couple of weeks ago, when I first heard of this site.

    I’ve been living in Liverpool, for three years now, in Walton, and in the city centre, and I think normal people usually behave very polite and fine here.

    I can’t remember seeing a single fight, when I’ve been going out.

    I think the guns and that, is more in the suburbs in Liverpool?

    I can’t remember hearing of any shooting-incidents, in the city center of Liverpool.

    So I think the way the police in this city acts, is a bit strange, from having lived in Oslo for many years, and also in Sunderland.

    In the incident in Matthew St., it looked like the police were practically raping the girl.

    (Look at the post I posted some weeks ago).

    And in the link to the case I have against Arvato/Microsoft, there one can see, that the Merseyside Police, call me ‘Miss Erik Ribsskog’, and they also lied, and said that the Citizens Advice Bureaux, was Government, when it’s a charity.

    And they are having phoney e-mail-adresses, and are acting at bullies, in the meetings etc, I’d say.

    So I’m not that convinced about the Merseyside Police, so that’s why I’m posting about these incidents.

    Thanks again for the information about the British Police in your comment!


    No problem mate you are welcome.

    Take care.

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    Quoted comment by fozzy5000: i would be happy to be searched by police if it means that they are trying to keep gun and knife crime down. i got nothing to hide so why should i give a fuck if 2 mins of my time is waisted. its catch 22 for the cops if they serach too many ppl its harrasment and they get fucked over and if they dont search enogh ppl and someone gets stabbed then they have not donethere job well enough. i am pretty sure cops dont carry crystal balls so they just have to search as many ppl as possible to make sure they get the bad guys. if your inconvienienced then tough shit. rather that than be stabbed on a night out eh!


    Why don’t you move to china then. Here in the USA, I will do everything to protect the rights of myself, and my kids. It’s this kind of attitude that starts the cracks in the system, and next thing you know, you are living under martial law.

    You people have been scared into submission. I pity you all.


    so let me quess, your one of these retards that think we dont need a legal system, dont need cops and so on. are you fucking retarded or what. I have kids aswell and i would rather be stopped and searched and come away clean than see the police not want to stop and searches becasue they are worried some fucking pipsqeek like you is going to get offended that your human rights have been breached by someone that wants to make the streets a safer place for everyone. Its ppl like YOU that ruin our contries, not ppl like me.


    Well, here in America, we have something called probable cause, as well as illegal search and seizure. You brits gave that up years ago, along with your guns. No wonder GB is becoming a muslim state. In 10 years, all your crooked teethed women will be wearing burqas. LOL


    fuck probable cause. just get it over and one with, treat me nice but with saftey first in mind and i dont give a fuck. i got nothing to hide. and as for our crooked toothed women, at least our women have teeth and dont all weigh about half a ton. Crawl back into your hole and stfu. the prob with america is the fact that everyone is too scared to do fuck all about the crims as they are to scared of the repurcusions. here they just get on with it. Although i do agree that we are turning into a muslim state but hopefully something will happen and that will be sorted.


    So you miss or ignore the many stories about criminals getting shot by the ordinary folks over here.


    I probably shouldn’t write this, since I’m from Norway.

    But in Britain, the Police, chased a Brazilian through London, an on to the tube, where they executed him.

    And he was just a normal guy.

    So I’m not sure if everything is like it should be, with the Police here.


    He was not a normal guy, he was an illegal immigrant who refused to stop when armed police asked him to. He then ran onto a packed tube train where he could have set off an explosive device. The idiot who shouldn’t have even been here should’ve stopped when the police asked him to.

    This is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence. You seem extremely paranoid.


    If he wasn’t a normal guy, why did they let his family come over, and look at the murder-scene etc., like I saw on TV?


    A normal guy in Britain is a British citizen, the man in question was not. His family were invited because his death was a public relations disaster for the authorities.

    My point still stands; this is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence.


    You make it sound like it’s ok for the Police to occationally execute some normal people on the tube if they aren’t British citizens.

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    Quoted comment by fozzy5000: i would be happy to be searched by police if it means that they are trying to keep gun and knife crime down. i got nothing to hide so why should i give a fuck if 2 mins of my time is waisted. its catch 22 for the cops if they serach too many ppl its harrasment and they get fucked over and if they dont search enogh ppl and someone gets stabbed then they have not donethere job well enough. i am pretty sure cops dont carry crystal balls so they just have to search as many ppl as possible to make sure they get the bad guys. if your inconvienienced then tough shit. rather that than be stabbed on a night out eh!


    Why don’t you move to china then. Here in the USA, I will do everything to protect the rights of myself, and my kids. It’s this kind of attitude that starts the cracks in the system, and next thing you know, you are living under martial law.

    You people have been scared into submission. I pity you all.


    so let me quess, your one of these retards that think we dont need a legal system, dont need cops and so on. are you fucking retarded or what. I have kids aswell and i would rather be stopped and searched and come away clean than see the police not want to stop and searches becasue they are worried some fucking pipsqeek like you is going to get offended that your human rights have been breached by someone that wants to make the streets a safer place for everyone. Its ppl like YOU that ruin our contries, not ppl like me.


    Well, here in America, we have something called probable cause, as well as illegal search and seizure. You brits gave that up years ago, along with your guns. No wonder GB is becoming a muslim state. In 10 years, all your crooked teethed women will be wearing burqas. LOL


    fuck probable cause. just get it over and one with, treat me nice but with saftey first in mind and i dont give a fuck. i got nothing to hide. and as for our crooked toothed women, at least our women have teeth and dont all weigh about half a ton. Crawl back into your hole and stfu. the prob with america is the fact that everyone is too scared to do fuck all about the crims as they are to scared of the repurcusions. here they just get on with it. Although i do agree that we are turning into a muslim state but hopefully something will happen and that will be sorted.


    So you miss or ignore the many stories about criminals getting shot by the ordinary folks over here.


    I probably shouldn’t write this, since I’m from Norway.

    But in Britain, the Police, chased a Brazilian through London, an on to the tube, where they executed him.

    And he was just a normal guy.

    So I’m not sure if everything is like it should be, with the Police here.


    He was not a normal guy, he was an illegal immigrant who refused to stop when armed police asked him to. He then ran onto a packed tube train where he could have set off an explosive device. The idiot who shouldn’t have even been here should’ve stopped when the police asked him to.

    This is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence. You seem extremely paranoid.


    If he wasn’t a normal guy, why did they let his family come over, and look at the murder-scene etc., like I saw on TV?


    A normal guy in Britain is a British citizen, the man in question was not. His family were invited because his death was a public relations disaster for the authorities.

    My point still stands; this is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence.


    You make it sound like it’s ok for the Police to occationally execute some normal people on the tube if they aren’t British citizens.


    I’m beginning to understand why I’m just being f*cked around by the British Police, it’s because I’m from Norway, and not a British Citizen.

    And the Norwegian Government, is f*cking me around as well.

    It doesn’t seem like the Government in eighter Norway or Britain have any respect for peoples rights.

    That’s my view at least, after what has been going on.

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    Quoted comment by japapadex: It is possible that they might be searching for drugs, or it could be a high risk area whereas they will just stop and search anybody. Zero tolerance is very much in force in the merseyside area.


    Zero tolerance for walking on the pavement?


    It sometimes depends on the area or even it could be down to a particular street or road, certain restricted zones will not allow more than two youths wether it be male or female to hang around, i think the police must have had reason to search these girls, but without any more facts it is difficult to say. Just because they are girls does not mean that they are incapable of committing an offence, some girls that i know from the Liverpool are worse than the lads.


    Well, this was in Dale St., in the center of Liverpool.

    Not far from the Town Hall, and Matthew St., and the discos etc.

    And these people, were just normal people walking on the pavemant, as I could see.

    And they said that the police just frisked everyone.

    I’ve overheard people saying this earlier as well, in Dale St, in the Spar shop, on a Saturday evening.

    That they were just brought in to a Police-car, and had never seen Police like that.

    Seemed like ordinary people going out to me, on both occations.

    The girls, who had got their bags looked through by the Police, acted polite.

    I was maybe a bit inpolite, in asking them why the Police looked through their stuff, but it was a Saturday night, and I was a bit curious.

    Then one of them explained, that the Police just ‘frisked everone’, and the otherone complained, to the first one, that she was getting a headache, I think she said, so I don’t think these girls acted like criminals.

    So I thought this was a bit akward.

    Is it ok for the Police to stop, and frisk, people who are just walking on the pavement.

    In Norway, where I’m from.

    I worked a lot, as a shop-manager, in Norway.

    And I lived in a small flat, which I rented from my employer, (Rimi/Ica), and the fridge didn’t work, and they didn’t want to change it.

    So before I got to buy a new fridge, then I sometimes, used to drive, to a petrol-station etc., at night, to buy a snack, or some food.

    And then the Police in Oslo, would stop you, for no reason at all.

    And ask for your drivers-licence, and once when I was tired from work, then they asked me to go out of the car, to look at my pupils etc.

    They must have thought I was a criminal or something, when all I did, was to drive to 7-eleven, to buy some food etc., or I drove my brother home, once, when he had been visiting me.

    And then for no reason at all, the Police are going drive behind you, and ask you to stop.

    They call it ‘rutine kontroll’, thats ‘routine-control’.

    So it’s maybe so, that the Police in eighter Norway or Britain, don’t need any reason, to stop you, and go through your stuff, or your car etc.

    It’s not in America, I guess, where the Police aren’t allowed to just stop people walking on the pavement, or just driving a car, if I’ve understood it right, that is.

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    Why don’t you move to china then. Here in the USA, I will do everything to protect the rights of myself, and my kids. It’s this kind of attitude that starts the cracks in the system, and next thing you know, you are living under martial law.

    You people have been scared into submission. I pity you all.


    so let me quess, your one of these retards that think we dont need a legal system, dont need cops and so on. are you fucking retarded or what. I have kids aswell and i would rather be stopped and searched and come away clean than see the police not want to stop and searches becasue they are worried some fucking pipsqeek like you is going to get offended that your human rights have been breached by someone that wants to make the streets a safer place for everyone. Its ppl like YOU that ruin our contries, not ppl like me.


    Well, here in America, we have something called probable cause, as well as illegal search and seizure. You brits gave that up years ago, along with your guns. No wonder GB is becoming a muslim state. In 10 years, all your crooked teethed women will be wearing burqas. LOL


    fuck probable cause. just get it over and one with, treat me nice but with saftey first in mind and i dont give a fuck. i got nothing to hide. and as for our crooked toothed women, at least our women have teeth and dont all weigh about half a ton. Crawl back into your hole and stfu. the prob with america is the fact that everyone is too scared to do fuck all about the crims as they are to scared of the repurcusions. here they just get on with it. Although i do agree that we are turning into a muslim state but hopefully something will happen and that will be sorted.


    So you miss or ignore the many stories about criminals getting shot by the ordinary folks over here.


    I probably shouldn’t write this, since I’m from Norway.

    But in Britain, the Police, chased a Brazilian through London, an on to the tube, where they executed him.

    And he was just a normal guy.

    So I’m not sure if everything is like it should be, with the Police here.


    He was not a normal guy, he was an illegal immigrant who refused to stop when armed police asked him to. He then ran onto a packed tube train where he could have set off an explosive device. The idiot who shouldn’t have even been here should’ve stopped when the police asked him to.

    This is not the normal behaviour of British police nor is it a common occurrence. You seem extremely paranoid.


    If he wasn’t a normal guy, why did they let his family come over, and look at the murder-scene etc., like I saw on TV?

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    I’m a bit concerned with what this with the Police and the doughnuts really is about.

    Is it some kind of metaphor?


    In the U.S., it’s just kind of a running joke that cops take their breaks at doughnut shops. The joke was that whenever you need a cop, they’re never around, because they’re off eating doughnuts somewhere.

    People would even joke that if you got pulled over for speeding, if you had doughnuts with you, you could bribe the cop out of giving you a ticket. There’s absolutely no truth to it at all though. It’s an extreme exaggeration, which just kind of took off as a joke about cops.


    Ok,

    I thought it was a bit strange that the Police always are eating doghnuts in movies etc.

    The doughnuts in Norway, are maybe a bit simpler than the American ones.

    The Norwegian doughnuts, have a hole in them, so there is a joke that you can’t eat the hole in the ‘smultring’, like they are called in Norway.

    So I thought that this with the Police and the doughnuts, in the movies etc., maybe could be some kind of metaphor.

    But it could be that I’m wrong, of course.

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